Guest guest Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 Peggy: I don't know if other injections can be prepared as suppositories. However, Gene, the pharmacist at Hopewell Pharmacy, seems to know alot about this and he may be able to answer your questions. 800-792-6670. Al C. -- On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 14:49:09 Peggomatic wrote: >This is interesting about the glutathione suppositories as an alternative to >IVs. Can any other injections used by CFIDS patients (i.e. magnesium, b-12) >be prepared as suppositories by compounding pharmacies? Has anyone else used >the glutathione suppositories with good results? > >Peggy > _____________________________________________________________ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus & ref=lmtplus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2003 Report Share Posted January 4, 2003 Drew, Might you get us the info on who carries transdermal glutathion? You use " Kirkmans. " Does that refer to a manufacturer? Also, any doc that I'd ask for a script for glutathione suppositories or a transdermal patch I know would want to know what type of dose it delivers, what is considered a safe dose, an effective dose, etc. Often the compounding pharmacist knows though some say they want the doc to say. Judith Wisdom On Sat, 04 Jan 2003 20:26:52 -0000 " drewwmartin <drewwmartin@...> " <drewwmartin@...> writes: > Havent with suppostitories but have had positive results from > Kirkmans transdermal glutathion. A couple people make it. > > dm > > Has anyone else used > > the glutathione suppositories with good results? > > > > Peggy > > > > ********************************* > > web page: www.angelfire.com/ri/strickenbk > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences > with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested > in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 I talked to Wellness Health and Pharmacy today and asked them about the glutathione suppositories, wanted to get price and quanities, etc. Well, I had NO idea they come in so many strengths. 200, 300, 400, 500mg's, 1 gm and I don't know what is good to use. Anybody have experience with using this??? Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Interesting idea, what is Rich's take on these? Would they actually work? > > > I talked to Wellness Health and Pharmacy today and asked them about the glutathione suppositories, wanted to get price and quanities, etc. Well, I had NO idea they come in so many strengths. 200, 300, 400, 500mg's, 1 gm and I don't know what is good to use. Anybody have experience with using this??? > > Marcia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Rich has talked about these before and listed them on his comprehensive 'replacing glutathione' post some time ago. Its my understanding that using it this way helps replenish the liver so that when using it by injection or other methods there might be enough for other areas. In other words, Rich feels the glutathione is 'compartmentalized' and needs to be replaced in many areas and that might involve different approaches (forgive me Rich if I don't get it all 'right' :-). I talked to the ND today and he's going to get them for me now (he wasn't happy I called Wellness myself, oh well, you snooze you lose!) He was supposed to check on all these things a couple months ago and never did. So I'm getting a 4oz bottle of the lipoceutical glutathione and 10 suppositories to start with, and not sure what strength they will be, I'm sure the more the better but not sure I can tolerate 'more'. He also 'finally' has a bottle of B12 for me (was supposed to have that months ago too!) I'm trying to build up my whey protein tolerance too and doing as much as I can to build gsh because I'm planning to have another RBC glutathione test done right before the end of the year to see if its doing any good. If you haven't seen that post of Rich's on different ways to replace gsh let me know and I'll try and find it and repost it, its excellent info (as all his info is!) with company names and websites, etc. Marcia Re: Glutathione Suppositories Interesting idea, what is Rich's take on these? Would they actually work? > > > I talked to Wellness Health and Pharmacy today and asked them about the glutathione suppositories, wanted to get price and quanities, etc. Well, I had NO idea they come in so many strengths. 200, 300, 400, 500mg's, 1 gm and I don't know what is good to use. Anybody have experience with using this??? > > Marcia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Did you need a prescription for them? Helen > > > I talked to Wellness Health and Pharmacy today and asked them about the glutathione suppositories, wanted to get price and quanities, etc. Well, I had NO idea they come in so many strengths. 200, 300, 400, 500mg's, 1 gm and I don't know what is good to use. Anybody have experience with using this??? > > Marcia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Yes, you do. Re: Glutathione Suppositories Did you need a prescription for them? Helen > > > I talked to Wellness Health and Pharmacy today and asked them about the glutathione suppositories, wanted to get price and quanities, etc. Well, I had NO idea they come in so many strengths. 200, 300, 400, 500mg's, 1 gm and I don't know what is good to use. Anybody have experience with using this??? > > Marcia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2005 Report Share Posted October 7, 2005 Hi Marcia, > I'm planning to have another RBC glutathione test done right before > the end of the year to see if its doing any good. Where do you get your testing done? Sue , Upstate New York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 , Yes, I think the glutathione rectal suppositories do work. We had one person on the list a while back who reported benefits using the 250 mg. dosage. I think this may be the least expensive of the ways of putting glutathione per se directly into the blood. Rich > > > > > > I talked to Wellness Health and Pharmacy today and asked them about > the glutathione suppositories, wanted to get price and quanities, etc. > Well, I had NO idea they come in so many strengths. 200, 300, 400, > 500mg's, 1 gm and I don't know what is good to use. Anybody have > experience with using this??? > > > > Marcia > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2005 Report Share Posted October 23, 2005 Anyone found these in Canada? Prescription required? Okay to take with amalgam fillings? I can't get mercury levels tested. Thanks. Kathy F. Re: Glutathione Suppositories > , > > Yes, I think the glutathione rectal suppositories do work. > We had > one person on the list a while back who reported benefits > using the > 250 mg. dosage. I think this may be the least expensive > of the ways > of putting glutathione per se directly into the blood. > > Rich > > >> > >> > >> > I talked to Wellness Health and Pharmacy today and >> > asked them > about >> the glutathione suppositories, wanted to get price and >> quanities, > etc. >> Well, I had NO idea they come in so many strengths. 200, >> 300, 400, >> 500mg's, 1 gm and I don't know what is good to use. >> Anybody have >> experience with using this??? >> > >> > Marcia >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hi Glutathione really helps me and I have to have it. I get it in I.V.'s (make sure preservative free) and have tried the 200 mg glutathione suppositories from Wellness Pharmacy. Wellness Pharmacy makes 2 types of suppositories - the regular type which have unsuitable inactive ingredients and the type I use is specially compounded is Preservative Free Glutathione in coco butter. I have tried the glutathione injected into the muscles and it does not seem to work for me but I can definately tell the difference in energy if I get it either by I.V. or the specially compounded suppositories. Unfortunately Wellness Pharmacy will no longer accept prescriptions from Canadian doctors - you have to have a doctor prescribe it from the States. Chris Kathy Froese <kathryn@...> wrote: Anyone found these in Canada? Prescription required? Okay to take with amalgam fillings? I can't get mercury levels tested. Thanks. Kathy F. Re: Glutathione Suppositories > , > > Yes, I think the glutathione rectal suppositories do work. > We had > one person on the list a while back who reported benefits > using the > 250 mg. dosage. I think this may be the least expensive > of the ways > of putting glutathione per se directly into the blood. > > Rich > > >> > >> > >> > I talked to Wellness Health and Pharmacy today and >> > asked them > about >> the glutathione suppositories, wanted to get price and >> quanities, > etc. >> Well, I had NO idea they come in so many strengths. 200, >> 300, 400, >> 500mg's, 1 gm and I don't know what is good to use. >> Anybody have >> experience with using this??? >> > >> > Marcia >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2005 Report Share Posted October 24, 2005 Hi! Sorry I should have stated the regular glutathione suppositories cannot work for me and are unsuitable for me because I am extremely sensitive to the inactive ingredients. So for some people they might be fine if they are not sensitive. For the more sensitive people I would try the glutathione suppositories in the cocoa butter. Hope this makes sense. Chris Fisher <tuberoseshiloh@...> wrote: Hi Glutathione really helps me and I have to have it. I get it in I.V.'s (make sure preservative free) and have tried the 200 mg glutathione suppositories from Wellness Pharmacy. Wellness Pharmacy makes 2 types of suppositories - the regular type which have unsuitable inactive ingredients and the type I use is specially compounded is Preservative Free Glutathione in coco butter. I have tried the glutathione injected into the muscles and it does not seem to work for me but I can definately tell the difference in energy if I get it either by I.V. or the specially compounded suppositories. Unfortunately Wellness Pharmacy will no longer accept prescriptions from Canadian doctors - you have to have a doctor prescribe it from the States. Chris Kathy Froese wrote: Anyone found these in Canada? Prescription required? Okay to take with amalgam fillings? I can't get mercury levels tested. Thanks. Kathy F. Re: Glutathione Suppositories > , > > Yes, I think the glutathione rectal suppositories do work. > We had > one person on the list a while back who reported benefits > using the > 250 mg. dosage. I think this may be the least expensive > of the ways > of putting glutathione per se directly into the blood. > > Rich > > >> > >> > >> > I talked to Wellness Health and Pharmacy today and >> > asked them > about >> the glutathione suppositories, wanted to get price and >> quanities, > etc. >> Well, I had NO idea they come in so many strengths. 200, >> 300, 400, >> 500mg's, 1 gm and I don't know what is good to use. >> Anybody have >> experience with using this??? >> > >> > Marcia >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Hi, Kathy. I think your first questions have already been answered. Concerning whether it's O.K. to use glutathione suppositories with amalgam fillings in place, I can't say I know this for sure, but I suspect that it would be O.K. The reason I suspect this is that from my reading I have learned that the bond between the glutathione molecule and the mercuric ion is very strong, and they are not easily dissociated. Therefore, if glutathione binds to mercury, I don't think the mercury will later be released so that it could, for example, enter the brain. I still have a lot to learn about this, but that's what I think at this time. In the long run, I do think it's a good idea to get rid of amalgam fillings, but I think this is best done slowly and carefully, particularly using a high-volume vacuum line to minimize the amount of mercury vapor that is inhaled when the fillings are heated by drilling. (One thing I would recommend is that you not shut your mouth on one of these high-volume suckers! I did that recently, and it almost took my tongue and cheeks along with it! Quite a thrill). Rich > > Anyone found these in Canada? Prescription required? > > Okay to take with amalgam fillings? I can't get mercury > levels tested. > > Thanks. > > Kathy F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Thanks for responding, Rich. Since I can't get the glutathione suppositories in Canada and American doctors won't take Canadian prescriptions, (not that my doctor would give me a prescription) the question becomes moot. I now need to know if i.v. glutathione is okay, but since you're not certain about the suppositories, I would think that the same would apply to the i.v.'s. I'm not well enough to go to a dentist for maintence so having my amalgams removed, isn't possible. Good in theory - doesn't work in practice. Sliding through the cracks again, Kathy Re: Glutathione Suppositories > Hi, Kathy. > > I think your first questions have already been answered. > > Concerning whether it's O.K. to use glutathione > suppositories with > amalgam fillings in place, I can't say I know this for > sure, but I > suspect that it would be O.K. The reason I suspect this > is that from > my reading I have learned that the bond between the > glutathione > molecule and the mercuric ion is very strong, and they are > not easily > dissociated. Therefore, if glutathione binds to mercury, > I don't > think the mercury will later be released so that it could, > for > example, enter the brain. I still have a lot to learn > about this, but > that's what I think at this time. > > In the long run, I do think it's a good idea to get rid of > amalgam > fillings, but I think this is best done slowly and > carefully, > particularly using a high-volume vacuum line to minimize > the amount of > mercury vapor that is inhaled when the fillings are heated > by > drilling. (One thing I would recommend is that you not > shut your mouth > on one of these high-volume suckers! I did that recently, > and it > almost took my tongue and cheeks along with it! Quite a > thrill). > > Rich > > >> >> Anyone found these in Canada? Prescription required? >> >> Okay to take with amalgam fillings? I can't get mercury >> levels tested. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Kathy F. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Hi Kathy, I don't have all the answers either. But I do have a little experience. I'm riddled with mercury. I test allergic to it on the dental testing and have a mouth full of it still. They did pull a very leaky merc filling out of the base of the root of a tooth under a bad bridge I had that had been leaking for ages and it gave me some improvement immediately. I think I've had about as much merc exposure as one could have. I've had glutathione IV's a few times and a couple of those were before I had that leaky filly out (and I still have a big cracked one and about 8 others) so I still have a mouth full of the merc. And the glutathione IV's have never made me feel worse. If you can get a Meyers (vites/mins) IV at the same time it works better for me that way. They give the Myers IV first then push the glutathione after it. Anyway, from my experience it hasn't hurt me at all having glut IV's with a mouthful of merc still in place. I just wish I could afford more of them :-( Marcia From: Kathy Froese Cc: Rich Vankonynenburg Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: Re: Re: Glutathione Suppositories Thanks for responding, Rich. Since I can't get the glutathione suppositories in Canada and American doctors won't take Canadian prescriptions, (not that my doctor would give me a prescription) the question becomes moot. I now need to know if i.v. glutathione is okay, but since you're not certain about the suppositories, I would think that the same would apply to the i.v.'s. I'm not well enough to go to a dentist for maintence so having my amalgams removed, isn't possible. Good in theory - doesn't work in practice. Sliding through the cracks again, Kathy Re: Glutathione Suppositories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Kathy, There is a suglingual form (absorbed directly into the blood stream) of gluthione marketed by Now foods in the US. You couldhave someone purchase it here and mail it to you. There is a compounder in Washington that offers a gluthione preparation that is sprayed into the nostrils (there is no blood brain barrier between the nose and brain). Hope you find something that is available and effective. Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Thank you Mel for your kindness and your information. When I'm feeling just a bit better, I'll check into some of these suggestions. Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: " Mel Baldwin " <alphabear@...> > Kathy, There is a suglingual form (absorbed directly into > the blood stream) of gluthione marketed by Now foods in > the US. You couldhave someone purchase it here and mail it > to you. There is a compounder in Washington that offers a > gluthione preparation that is sprayed into the nostrils > (there is no blood brain barrier between the nose and > brain). Hope you find something that is available and > effective. Mel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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