Guest guest Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 Hi , DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton is where I have read about Hematoxylon and DMSO. Amazon has the book and it is well worth the $11 for all the information on DMSO it contains. I do not mean to put a damper on your spirits but ten is very old for a Dobie. They are a short lived breed and many do not make it past seven. This could be the natural aging process in action. I don't mean to discourage you from treating her. Just want you to know she has lived more than the average life span from what I know, for a Dobie. I could be wrong but that is my understanding of the breed. And of many giant breeds, who often do not make it past six, but certainly not much past 11 or 12 in the vast majority of dogs. I have owned one giant breed and mourned the shortened life span the giantism mutation confers on all molossers. They all trace back to the Tibetan Mastiff and a giantism mutation that is thought to have occurred some 7,000 years ago. At least this is what I read when studying my breed's history. The giantism mutation is the same in dogs as humans, shorter life span, lower immune function, fertility issues, hypothyroidism are some of the medical issues it confers. Not all dogs have all issues but the Bullmastiffs we had certainly had their share. We considered ten very old for a Bullmastiff, although I do know of individuals, lighter boned and less massive, that actually made it to fourteen. Again I am so sorry and I do not mean to remove your hope, just provide some perspective. If he does not have the real heavy bone and is on the smaller side he may have a longer life span. Look for other signs of aging, cataracts, muscle wasting, advanced arthritis, nerve degeneration, difficulties getting up and down, vision impairment, all of these can indicate advanced age. You will know and sense what is right for him I am sure. We all have to decide if we are keeping our pets alive with a good out look for quality of life or just keeping them alive at any cost. PS I believe our pets come back to us and have experienced communication at their death, long after and when they came back in a new body. It is a wonderful experience to know that we really do not lose them, they just change forms. It is my belief that humans do this as well. I have no proof, only my experiences to share. I hope this does not offend as well. Garnet stylishranchgirl wrote: > Hello, could anyone provide information on where I can get > hematoxylon? My neighbor is a large animal vet and she will help me > with an iv drip for the DMSO mixture. She nor I know what hematoxylon > is or where you get it. Any information on experiments would be > helpful. My dog is a 65 dobie with lung cancer. The mass is not that > big and it's on one side so I'm hoping it's not beyond wellness. I am > also rifing him. He's 10 yrs old. > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 I just had to put my 2 Dobe's down last saturday. It almost killed me to do so....they were going down hill very fast & my 104# male got down in the back yard & couldn't get up. That was the first time it happened....and the last. The female was having huge problems as well.... they were 11 & 12 yrs. old. I really miss them. This week hasn't been the best one for me. Vicki -- Re: DMSO Hematoxylon ratio for Doberman with cancer Hi ,DMSO Nature's Healer by Morton is where I have readabout Hematoxylon and DMSO. Amazon has the book and it is wellworth the $11 for all the information on DMSO it contains.I do not mean to put a damper on your spirits but ten is veryold for a Dobie. They are a short lived breed and many do notmake it past seven. This could be the natural aging processin action. I don't mean to discourage you from treating her.Just want you to know she has lived more than the average lifespan from what I know, for a Dobie. I could be wrong but thatis my understanding of the breed. And of many giant breeds,who often do not make it past six, but certainly not muchpast 11 or 12 in the vast majority of dogs.I have owned one giant breed and mourned the shortened lifespan the giantism mutation confers on all molossers. They alltrace back to the Tibetan Mastiff and a giantism mutationthat is thought to have occurred some 7,000 years ago. At leastthis is what I read when studying my breed's history.The giantism mutation is the same in dogs as humans, shorterlife span, lower immune function, fertility issues, hypothyroidismare some of the medical issues it confers. Not all dogs haveall issues but the Bullmastiffs we had certainly had their share.We considered ten very old for a Bullmastiff, although I do knowof individuals, lighter boned and less massive, that actuallymade it to fourteen.Again I am so sorry and I do not mean to removeyour hope, just provide some perspective. If he does not havethe real heavy bone and is on the smaller side he may have alonger life span. Look for other signs of aging, cataracts,muscle wasting, advanced arthritis, nerve degeneration,difficulties getting up and down, vision impairment, allof these can indicate advanced age. You will know and sensewhat is right for him I am sure. We all have to decide if weare keeping our pets alive with a good out look for qualityof life or just keeping them alive at any cost.PS I believe our pets come back to us and have experiencedcommunication at their death, long after and when theycame back in a new body. It is a wonderful experience to knowthat we really do not lose them, they just change forms. Itis my belief that humans do this as well. I have no proof,only my experiences to share. I hope this does not offendas well.Garnetstylishranchgirl wrote:> Hello, could anyone provide information on where I can get> hematoxylon? My neighbor is a large animal vet and she will help me> with an iv drip for the DMSO mixture. She nor I know what hematoxylon> is or where you get it. Any information on experiments would be> helpful. My dog is a 65 dobie with lung cancer. The mass is not that> big and it's on one side so I'm hoping it's not beyond wellness. I am> also rifing him. He's 10 yrs old. > Thanks,> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 I am so sorry to hear that Vicki. It is not ever easy to lose them, even for someone like me who believes they are always still around and come back to us. They lived a long time, but it is never long enough! {{hugs}} Garnet Vicki wrote: > I just had to put my 2 Dobe's down last saturday. It almost killed me to do > so....they were going down hill very fast & my 104# male got down in the > back yard & couldn't get up. That was the first time it happened....and the > last. The female was having huge problems as well.... they were 11 & 12 yrs > old. I really miss them. This week hasn't been the best one for me. > Vicki > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2005 Report Share Posted December 25, 2005 Thanks Garnet...Rio was very special....it really hurts, but then anytime you have to separate from a loved one....it hurts. I am glad of the time we had. He would of died for me....and would NEVER let anyone hurt a hair on my head. -- Re: DMSO Hematoxylon ratio for Doberman with cancer I am so sorry to hear that Vicki. It is not ever easy to lose them, evenfor someone like me who believes they are always still around and comeback to us. They lived a long time, but it is never long enough!{{hugs}}GarnetVicki wrote:> I just had to put my 2 Dobe's down last saturday. It almost killed me to do> so....they were going down hill very fast & my 104# male got down in the> back yard & couldn't get up. That was the first time it happened....and the> last. The female was having huge problems as well.... they were 11 & 12 yrs> old. I really miss them. This week hasn't been the best one for me.> Vicki > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Oh Vicki. How sad for you--both of them!!! I grieve with you. samala "tossed down to live among angels, who have forgotten what they are, I strive to remember" RLV 1998 -------Original Message------- I just had to put my 2 Dobe's down last saturday. It almost killed me to do so....they were going down hill very fast & my 104# male got down in the back yard & couldn't get up. That was the first time it happened....and the last. The female was having huge problems as well.... they were 11 & 12 yrs. old. I really miss them. This week hasn't been the best one for me. Vicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2005 Report Share Posted December 26, 2005 Here is a poem that may help... found at http://www.cree77.com/farm.html (natural health alternatives, chickens, goats and more) Love, Last Thoughts from our Beloved PetsIf it should be that I grow frail and weakAnd pain does keep me from sleepThen will you do what must be done?For this - the last battle - can't be wonYou will be sad I understandBut don't let grief stay your handFor on this day, more than the restYour love and friendship must stand the testWe have had so many happy yearsYou wouldn't want me to suffer soWhen the time comes please let me go.Take me to where my needs they'll tend,Only, stay with me till the end.And hold me firm and speak to meUntil my eyes no longer see.I know in time you will agree,It is a kindness you do for me.Although my tail- it last has waived,from pain and suffering I have been saved.Don't grieve that it must now be you,we had to decide this thing to do.We've been so close - we two - these years,Don't let your heart hold any tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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