Tooth oil to control bacteria?

[Guest guest]

I am writing this with much trepedation, reluctant to give the

impression of selling something. Over the course of my illness I've

tried many products. Most of the time I'm too embarrassed to admit

I've been dooped into spending money to make someone else richer, me

poorer, but no better. Acually my requirements are relatively small.

Just do what you advertise. Why is that so hard sometimes? Well, in

the past few months I've been pleasantly surprised by two products.

Shocked acutally.

Nine months ago I saw a dentist to have my dental filings replaced.

At that time I had routine work done as well, and there were

absolutely no reports of gingivitis or peridontal disease. Four

months later, I returned to the dentist to have a minor adjustment

done on one area that he didn't fill quite enough. I was also

concerned about two receding gums that suddenly appeared. He told me

I'd have to see someone else, but that gingivitis takes years and it

was not an urgent matter. Yet, it nagged at me, for every time I

brushed, I felt it was getting worse. It was. I saw another dentist,

a specialist, who referred me to an even more specialized dentist as

this minor gingivitis had become severe periodontal disease in a

matter of months. I'm not trying to spook anyone, I do realize that

my case is rare. It seems that low IgG is a precurser or an

activator of periodontal disease. Add a few bacteria and you've got

major problems. I've had to wait for gum surgery because of the

problems I've had trying to get IVIG infusions. I was scheduled a

few weeks ago, but had to reschedule after the failed IVIG attempt.

The surgeon insist on making sure that I have adequate gamma

globulin for recovery. That is good, but while waiting I stumbled

on to this website for an oil that supposedly killed the bacteria

causing all this mess. I decided to give it a try. reluctantly I

might add because it tastes like nothing you'd want to put in your

mouth. Burns...yippee...but then I've got exposed roots I think.

After about a week I found that when I licked my teeth, there was a

ridge at my gum line that felt like sandpaper. An accumlulation sort

of. It bothered me enough that I got a toothpick and scratched it

off, figuring it would be back by morning. It wasn't . One by

one ,each tooth did this. Low and behold in about ten days all of my

teeth felt really good. But I didn't whisper a word to anyone. I was

sure this was just a fluke. Anyway, I found that as long as I

contined to use the product, the plaque stays away. My dentist

thought I was a real sweetheart, taking care and having regular

cleanings. I hadn't had a cleaning in seven years. I've had dental

work done, just never able to get to a general dentist for the

cleaning, always having specialized work. With all these diseases,

things that are routine, get back-burnered. I'm wondering if I

should tell him that it is this oil and not my diligence that is

helping.

Ok, so it didn't reverse my periodontal disease. I didn't even

expect it to remove the plaque, so I guess I'm still happy with the

product. I did note when becoming ill and not brushing for a couple

of days, that the plaque came back quicker than dixie. Those little

bacteria suckers must just be waiting in anticipation for me to not

be attentive so they can swarm in. I found that the results help

with the taste. If you are sleepy and put too many drops on your

toothbrush, it'll be a sure fire way to wake you up..

Anyway here are some clips as to what they say on their website.

here is the link. I don't receive any value for passing this on,

they don't even know I'm supporting them. Don't want them to get a

big head.

http://www.oramd.com/

THEY SAY:

Gum disease affects the tissues that surround and support your

teeth. The cause is bacteria, which can turn into tartar and plaque

buildup, irritate your gums and lead to bleeding and receding gums.

Left unchecked, gingivitis can lead to a more serious form of gum

disease called periodontitis.

Each drop of OraMD™ helps clean your teeth, gums and mouth of

bacteria causing germs, plaque build up and bad breath. Gum disease

is caused by plaque, a sticky film of bacteria that constantly forms

on the teeth. These bacteria create toxins that damage the gums and

frequently causes receding gums and pockets . OraMD is an oil. It

gets under your gum line, down in the pockets between your gums and

teeth, and does not wash away like other products. It lingers and

therefore prevents the bacteria from " reforming. "

OraMD™ is all natural, 100% pure, essential oils of peppermint,

spearmint and almond. There are hundreds of varieties of these oils

from all over the world and they all have different properties. This

scientific formulation is designed to eliminate bacteria and

pathogens and give relief from the causes of gum disease,

gingivitis, bleeding gums and bad breath

Studies have shown that people with severe gum disease might be more

likely to have precursors to heart disease than those with milder

forms of the disease, known as periodontitis.

The disease in which bacteria infect the gums and bones supporting

the teeth can cause gums to separate from the teeth and from

pockets. Scientists had thought that periodontitis was a risk factor

for heart disease; now researchers have linked the severity of the

condition to the likelihood of symptoms.

 

The American Academy of Peridontology

Release Date June 18, 1997

The American Academy of Periodontology (AAP), Chicago – June 18,

1997 , is concerned about new research linking gum disease to a

heart attack or stroke. According to Dr. Rose , AAP

President, this new study supports accumulating research that

identifies gum disease as significantly increasing the risk for

heart disease. The AAP believes emerging research in this area may

establish periodontal disease as a risk factor for cardiovascular

disease.

The study presented at the American Association for the Advancement

of Science meeting suggests that the bacteria present in gum disease

may trigger blood clots which can contribute to a heart attack or

stroke.

The academy urges people who are at-risk for cardiovascular disease

or have signs of gum disease to consult with a dentist experienced

with treating periodontal disease. Regular periodontal screening and

evaluations, treatment and professional maintenance are critical to

long term management of periodontal disease.

The American Academy of Restorative Dentistry (AARD) studied the

effects of bacteria to possible links between gum and heart disease.

By exposing human blood platelets to samples of bacteria taken

directly from patients' mouth, researchers at Temple University

Schools of Dentistry and Medicine have further confirmed a possible

link between periodontal bacteria and heart disease. Temple 's study

is the first to take a large number of dental plaque bacteria

directly from the mouths of patients with severe periodontal disease

and test their affect on blood platelets.

" Almost immediately after we exposed human blood platelets to the

dental plaque bacteria the platelets began to clump together " said

Dr. Eugene Whitaker , Associated Professor of Dentistry and lead

investigator. In addition, " out of all the periodontal bacteria we

tested, porphyromanas gingivitis was the only one to cause this

clumping, which is a key step in formation of bloodstream thrombi

(blockage). "

Additionally, research from the University of North Carolina at

Chapel Hill (UNC-CH) ( 11-13-2000 ) also finds a link between gum

disease and acute heart attacks. Their studies showed that heart

attack survivors who suffer advanced gum disease show significantly

higher levels of a protein in their blood called C-Reactive Protein

(CRP) than such patients without gum disease.

Findings presented (November 12, 2004) during a news conference at

the annual American Heart Association meeting in New Orleans,

suggest that the presence of gum disease might increase the risk of

second heart attack in people with a risk of heart disease.

" Not only did the heart attack patients with periodontal disease

have higher levels of CRP than those without gum disease, but the

CRP levels were directly related to the severity of the gum

disease, " said Dr. Efthymios N. Deliargyris , an interventional

cardiologist and a member of the Center for Oral and Systemic

Diseases at UNC-CH. " The more severe the gum disease, the higher the

CRP levels. " Besides Deliargyris, also an instructor in medicine at

the UNC-CH School of Medicine, study investigators included Drs.

Offenbacher , Professor of Periodontology and Center

Director, D. Beck , Professor of Dental Ecology and Dr. Sidney

C. Jr. , Chief of Cardiology and past president of the

American Heart Association.

" We know a lot of risk factors for heart attacks, including high

blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes and cigarette smoking,

but all of those combined only explain about two-thirds of the heart

attacks, " Deliargyris said. " Since about a third of people who

suffer from heart attacks don't have those risk factors, there is a

wide search going of for other conditions that may contribute to

increased risk.

Studies at UNC-CH and elsewhere have linked periodontal disease — an

advanced form of gingivitis – with increased risk of heart attacks,

but it has been unclear what the two (2) conditions have in common,

the physician said. " One thing we know, the two conditions share is

that they tend to initiate an immune response also called an

inflammatory response in the body, " He said. The most common marker

for this response is the CRP, which is considered predictive of

future adverse events like heart attack. " To learn how common severe

gum disease was in heart attack victims, the UNC-CH team conducted

their pilot study of heart attack patients and matched them with a

comparable group of other people without known heart disease.

Research found a high percentage of the former had periodontal

disease – 85 percent – as compared with only 29 percent of the

controls.

One interesting observation was " that among people with a heart

attack, those with periodontal disease had much higher CRP levels

than those with a heart attack but no periodontal disease "

Deliagyris said. " It seems that the presence of periodontal disease

on top of a heart attack has a synergistic effect and a very

accentuated CRP release. "

" This gives us an insight into possible mechanisms underlying the

association between gum disease and heart disease, Deliagyris

said. " Now we believe that patients with a heart attack and

periodontal disease have an exaggerated inflammatory response with

higher CRP levels that might put them at risk for future heart

attacks. This work also raises the possibility that by treating

severe gum disease in people with heart attacks, we might be able to

reduce their CRP levels and their risk of another heart attack. "

[Guest guest]

>This >scientific formulation is designed to eliminate bacteria and >pathogens and give relief from the causes of gum disease, >gingivitis, bleeding gums and bad breath

Peg,

Any idea what is in this "scientific formulation"?

Nelly

[Guest guest]

Hi, Peg.

I'm glad you were able to get some relief by using this oil.

I think there is pretty good evidence now that what happens in

periodontal disease is that the polymorphonuclear leukocytes (mainly

the neutrophils) generate a lot of reactive oxygen species (ROS) to

combat the bacteria. If the body has a low antioxidant status, the

excess ROS cannot be quenched, and they attack the periodontal

ligament, resulting in damage to the support of the teeth.

I can understand that the oil would deter the bacteria, and thus

cool down the neutrophil response. However, I think an even better

approach would be to get the antioxidant status up by building

glutathione, vitamin C and vitamin E levels. I think this will work

wonders to clear up problems with the gums.

In my view, the gum problems observed in CFS are one more

manifestation of glutathione depletion, of which there are many.

And you're right, this has implications for the heart, which is also

starting to be recognized as a major target organ in CFS.

Rich

>

>

> I am writing this with much trepedation, reluctant to give the

> impression of selling something. Over the course of my illness

I've

> tried many products. Most of the time I'm too embarrassed to admit

> I've been dooped into spending money to make someone else richer,

me

> poorer, but no better. Acually my requirements are relatively

small.

> Just do what you advertise. Why is that so hard sometimes? Well,

in

> the past few months I've been pleasantly surprised by two

products.

> Shocked acutally.

> Nine months ago I saw a dentist to have my dental filings

replaced.

> At that time I had routine work done as well, and there were

> absolutely no reports of gingivitis or peridontal disease. Four

> months later, I returned to the dentist to have a minor adjustment

> done on one area that he didn't fill quite enough. I was also

> concerned about two receding gums that suddenly appeared. He told

me

> I'd have to see someone else, but that gingivitis takes years and

it

> was not an urgent matter. Yet, it nagged at me, for every time I

> brushed, I felt it was getting worse. It was. I saw another

dentist,

> a specialist, who referred me to an even more specialized dentist

as

> this minor gingivitis had become severe periodontal disease in a

> matter of months. I'm not trying to spook anyone, I do realize

that

> my case is rare. It seems that low IgG is a precurser or an

> activator of periodontal disease. Add a few bacteria and you've

got

> major problems. I've had to wait for gum surgery because of the

> problems I've had trying to get IVIG infusions. I was scheduled a

> few weeks ago, but had to reschedule after the failed IVIG

attempt.

> The surgeon insist on making sure that I have adequate gamma

> globulin for recovery. That is good, but while waiting I stumbled

> on to this website for an oil that supposedly killed the bacteria

> causing all this mess. I decided to give it a try. reluctantly I

> might add because it tastes like nothing you'd want to put in your

> mouth. Burns...yippee...but then I've got exposed roots I think.

>

> After about a week I found that when I licked my teeth, there was

a

> ridge at my gum line that felt like sandpaper. An accumlulation

sort

> of. It bothered me enough that I got a toothpick and scratched it

> off, figuring it would be back by morning. It wasn't . One by

> one ,each tooth did this. Low and behold in about ten days all of

my

> teeth felt really good. But I didn't whisper a word to anyone. I

was

> sure this was just a fluke. Anyway, I found that as long as I

> contined to use the product, the plaque stays away. My dentist

> thought I was a real sweetheart, taking care and having regular

> cleanings. I hadn't had a cleaning in seven years. I've had dental

> work done, just never able to get to a general dentist for the

> cleaning, always having specialized work. With all these diseases,

> things that are routine, get back-burnered. I'm wondering if I

> should tell him that it is this oil and not my diligence that is

> helping.

> Ok, so it didn't reverse my periodontal disease. I didn't even

> expect it to remove the plaque, so I guess I'm still happy with

the

> product. I did note when becoming ill and not brushing for a

couple

> of days, that the plaque came back quicker than dixie. Those

little

> bacteria suckers must just be waiting in anticipation for me to

not

> be attentive so they can swarm in. I found that the results help

> with the taste. If you are sleepy and put too many drops on your

> toothbrush, it'll be a sure fire way to wake you up..

> Anyway here are some clips as to what they say on their website.

> here is the link. I don't receive any value for passing this on,

> they don't even know I'm supporting them. Don't want them to get a

> big head.

> http://www.oramd.com/

>

> THEY SAY:

> Gum disease affects the tissues that surround and support your

> teeth. The cause is bacteria, which can turn into tartar and

plaque

> buildup, irritate your gums and lead to bleeding and receding

gums.

> Left unchecked, gingivitis can lead to a more serious form of gum

> disease called periodontitis.

> Each drop of OraMD™ helps clean your teeth, gums and mouth of

> bacteria causing germs, plaque build up and bad breath. Gum

disease

> is caused by plaque, a sticky film of bacteria that constantly

forms

> on the teeth. These bacteria create toxins that damage the gums

and

> frequently causes receding gums and pockets . OraMD is an oil. It

> gets under your gum line, down in the pockets between your gums

and

> teeth, and does not wash away like other products. It lingers and

> therefore prevents the bacteria from " reforming. "

>

> OraMD™ is all natural, 100% pure, essential oils of peppermint,

> spearmint and almond. There are hundreds of varieties of these

oils

> from all over the world and they all have different properties.

This

> scientific formulation is designed to eliminate bacteria and

> pathogens and give relief from the causes of gum disease,

> gingivitis, bleeding gums and bad breath

>

>

>

> Studies have shown that people with severe gum disease might be

more

> likely to have precursors to heart disease than those with milder

> forms of the disease, known as periodontitis.

>

>

> The disease in which bacteria infect the gums and bones supporting

> the teeth can cause gums to separate from the teeth and from

> pockets. Scientists had thought that periodontitis was a risk

factor

> for heart disease; now researchers have linked the severity of the

> condition to the likelihood of symptoms.

>

>

>  

>

>

>

>

> The American Academy of Peridontology

> Release Date June 18, 1997

>

>

>

> The American Academy of Periodontology (AAP), Chicago – June 18,

> 1997 , is concerned about new research linking gum disease to a

> heart attack or stroke. According to Dr. Rose , AAP

> President, this new study supports accumulating research that

> identifies gum disease as significantly increasing the risk for

> heart disease. The AAP believes emerging research in this area may

> establish periodontal disease as a risk factor for cardiovascular

> disease.

>

>

>

> The study presented at the American Association for the

Advancement

> of Science meeting suggests that the bacteria present in gum

disease

> may trigger blood clots which can contribute to a heart attack or

> stroke.

>

>

> The academy urges people who are at-risk for cardiovascular

disease

> or have signs of gum disease to consult with a dentist experienced

> with treating periodontal disease. Regular periodontal screening

and

> evaluations, treatment and professional maintenance are critical

to

> long term management of periodontal disease.

>

>

> The American Academy of Restorative Dentistry (AARD) studied the

> effects of bacteria to possible links between gum and heart

disease.

> By exposing human blood platelets to samples of bacteria taken

> directly from patients' mouth, researchers at Temple University

> Schools of Dentistry and Medicine have further confirmed a

possible

> link between periodontal bacteria and heart disease. Temple 's

study

> is the first to take a large number of dental plaque bacteria

> directly from the mouths of patients with severe periodontal

disease

> and test their affect on blood platelets.

>

>

> " Almost immediately after we exposed human blood platelets to the

> dental plaque bacteria the platelets began to clump together " said

> Dr. Eugene Whitaker , Associated Professor of Dentistry and lead

> investigator. In addition, " out of all the periodontal bacteria we

> tested, porphyromanas gingivitis was the only one to cause this

> clumping, which is a key step in formation of bloodstream thrombi

> (blockage). "

>

>

> Additionally, research from the University of North Carolina at

> Chapel Hill (UNC-CH) ( 11-13-2000 ) also finds a link between gum

> disease and acute heart attacks. Their studies showed that heart

> attack survivors who suffer advanced gum disease show

significantly

> higher levels of a protein in their blood called C-Reactive

Protein

> (CRP) than such patients without gum disease.

>

>

> Findings presented (November 12, 2004) during a news conference at

> the annual American Heart Association meeting in New Orleans,

> suggest that the presence of gum disease might increase the risk

of

> second heart attack in people with a risk of heart disease.

>

>

> " Not only did the heart attack patients with periodontal disease

> have higher levels of CRP than those without gum disease, but the

> CRP levels were directly related to the severity of the gum

> disease, " said Dr. Efthymios N. Deliargyris , an interventional

> cardiologist and a member of the Center for Oral and Systemic

> Diseases at UNC-CH. " The more severe the gum disease, the higher

the

> CRP levels. " Besides Deliargyris, also an instructor in medicine

at

> the UNC-CH School of Medicine, study investigators included Drs.

> Offenbacher , Professor of Periodontology and Center

> Director, D. Beck , Professor of Dental Ecology and Dr.

Sidney

> C. Jr. , Chief of Cardiology and past president of the

> American Heart Association.

>

>

> " We know a lot of risk factors for heart attacks, including high

> blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes and cigarette smoking,

> but all of those combined only explain about two-thirds of the

heart

> attacks, " Deliargyris said. " Since about a third of people who

> suffer from heart attacks don't have those risk factors, there is

a

> wide search going of for other conditions that may contribute to

> increased risk.

>

>

> Studies at UNC-CH and elsewhere have linked periodontal disease —

an

> advanced form of gingivitis – with increased risk of heart

attacks,

> but it has been unclear what the two (2) conditions have in

common,

> the physician said. " One thing we know, the two conditions share

is

> that they tend to initiate an immune response also called an

> inflammatory response in the body, " He said. The most common

marker

> for this response is the CRP, which is considered predictive of

> future adverse events like heart attack. " To learn how common

severe

> gum disease was in heart attack victims, the UNC-CH team conducted

> their pilot study of heart attack patients and matched them with a

> comparable group of other people without known heart disease.

> Research found a high percentage of the former had periodontal

> disease – 85 percent – as compared with only 29 percent of the

> controls.

>

>

> One interesting observation was " that among people with a heart

> attack, those with periodontal disease had much higher CRP levels

> than those with a heart attack but no periodontal disease "

> Deliagyris said. " It seems that the presence of periodontal

disease

> on top of a heart attack has a synergistic effect and a very

> accentuated CRP release. "

>

>

> " This gives us an insight into possible mechanisms underlying the

> association between gum disease and heart disease, Deliagyris

> said. " Now we believe that patients with a heart attack and

> periodontal disease have an exaggerated inflammatory response with

> higher CRP levels that might put them at risk for future heart

> attacks. This work also raises the possibility that by treating

> severe gum disease in people with heart attacks, we might be able

to

> reduce their CRP levels and their risk of another heart attack. "

[Guest guest]

Rich

Again your assuming the body is absolutely comfortable with the

processes in place.. unfortunately the body isn't capable of

handling toxic substances, (bacterial toxins) things that act like

battery acid.This is the problem with this disease so many feel they

can fix the damage but not take away what is causing the damage.This

troubles me and I just can't see a winner in your model I'm afraid

Rich.My concern is similar in nature to a burn victim, you gotta get

things flowing smoothly throughout the body and when you've been

exposed to such extremes more than just oxydative stressors you need

to call out the military and your not addressing this. If you took

out any troublesome glands or body parts and examined them I'm sure

they'd be more appropriate on a major burns patient.

This post was about tooth oil not making a friendly environment for

bacteria and again the bacteria and 'not attacking it' seems a

common trait for all the alternative thinkers in this disease.I can

assure you that one good thing has come from visiting forums - the

clear cut benefits experienced while doing antibiotics.This is so

uncommon in your line of thinking rich- why is this the case.

-- In infections , " rvankonynen "

<richvank@a...> wrote:

> Hi, Peg.

>

> I'm glad you were able to get some relief by using this oil.

>

> I think there is pretty good evidence now that what happens in

> periodontal disease is that the polymorphonuclear leukocytes

(mainly

> the neutrophils) generate a lot of reactive oxygen species (ROS)

to

> combat the bacteria. If the body has a low antioxidant status,

the

> excess ROS cannot be quenched, and they attack the periodontal

> ligament, resulting in damage to the support of the teeth.

>

> I can understand that the oil would deter the bacteria, and thus

> cool down the neutrophil response. However, I think an even

better

> approach would be to get the antioxidant status up by building

> glutathione, vitamin C and vitamin E levels. I think this will

work

> wonders to clear up problems with the gums.

>

> In my view, the gum problems observed in CFS are one more

> manifestation of glutathione depletion, of which there are many.

> And you're right, this has implications for the heart, which is

also

> starting to be recognized as a major target organ in CFS.

>

> Rich

>

>

> >

> >

> > I am writing this with much trepedation, reluctant to give the

> > impression of selling something. Over the course of my illness

> I've

> > tried many products. Most of the time I'm too embarrassed to

admit

> > I've been dooped into spending money to make someone else

richer,

> me

> > poorer, but no better. Acually my requirements are relatively

> small.

> > Just do what you advertise. Why is that so hard sometimes?

Well,

> in

> > the past few months I've been pleasantly surprised by two

> products.

> > Shocked acutally.

> > Nine months ago I saw a dentist to have my dental filings

> replaced.

> > At that time I had routine work done as well, and there were

> > absolutely no reports of gingivitis or peridontal disease. Four

> > months later, I returned to the dentist to have a minor

adjustment

> > done on one area that he didn't fill quite enough. I was also

> > concerned about two receding gums that suddenly appeared. He

told

> me

> > I'd have to see someone else, but that gingivitis takes years

and

> it

> > was not an urgent matter. Yet, it nagged at me, for every time I

> > brushed, I felt it was getting worse. It was. I saw another

> dentist,

> > a specialist, who referred me to an even more specialized

dentist

> as

> > this minor gingivitis had become severe periodontal disease in a

> > matter of months. I'm not trying to spook anyone, I do realize

> that

> > my case is rare. It seems that low IgG is a precurser or an

> > activator of periodontal disease. Add a few bacteria and you've

> got

> > major problems. I've had to wait for gum surgery because of the

> > problems I've had trying to get IVIG infusions. I was scheduled

a

> > few weeks ago, but had to reschedule after the failed IVIG

> attempt.

> > The surgeon insist on making sure that I have adequate gamma

> > globulin for recovery. That is good, but while waiting I

stumbled

> > on to this website for an oil that supposedly killed the

bacteria

> > causing all this mess. I decided to give it a try. reluctantly I

> > might add because it tastes like nothing you'd want to put in

your

> > mouth. Burns...yippee...but then I've got exposed roots I think.

> >

> > After about a week I found that when I licked my teeth, there

was

> a

> > ridge at my gum line that felt like sandpaper. An accumlulation

> sort

> > of. It bothered me enough that I got a toothpick and scratched

it

> > off, figuring it would be back by morning. It wasn't . One by

> > one ,each tooth did this. Low and behold in about ten days all

of

> my

> > teeth felt really good. But I didn't whisper a word to anyone. I

> was

> > sure this was just a fluke. Anyway, I found that as long as I

> > contined to use the product, the plaque stays away. My dentist

> > thought I was a real sweetheart, taking care and having regular

> > cleanings. I hadn't had a cleaning in seven years. I've had

dental

> > work done, just never able to get to a general dentist for the

> > cleaning, always having specialized work. With all these

diseases,

> > things that are routine, get back-burnered. I'm wondering if I

> > should tell him that it is this oil and not my diligence that is

> > helping.

> > Ok, so it didn't reverse my periodontal disease. I didn't even

> > expect it to remove the plaque, so I guess I'm still happy with

> the

> > product. I did note when becoming ill and not brushing for a

> couple

> > of days, that the plaque came back quicker than dixie. Those

> little

> > bacteria suckers must just be waiting in anticipation for me to

> not

> > be attentive so they can swarm in. I found that the results help

> > with the taste. If you are sleepy and put too many drops on your

> > toothbrush, it'll be a sure fire way to wake you up..

> > Anyway here are some clips as to what they say on their website.

> > here is the link. I don't receive any value for passing this on,

> > they don't even know I'm supporting them. Don't want them to get

a

> > big head.

> > http://www.oramd.com/

> >

> > THEY SAY:

> > Gum disease affects the tissues that surround and support your

> > teeth. The cause is bacteria, which can turn into tartar and

> plaque

> > buildup, irritate your gums and lead to bleeding and receding

> gums.

> > Left unchecked, gingivitis can lead to a more serious form of

gum

> > disease called periodontitis.

> > Each drop of OraMD™ helps clean your teeth, gums and mouth of

> > bacteria causing germs, plaque build up and bad breath. Gum

> disease

> > is caused by plaque, a sticky film of bacteria that constantly

> forms

> > on the teeth. These bacteria create toxins that damage the gums

> and

> > frequently causes receding gums and pockets . OraMD is an oil.

It

> > gets under your gum line, down in the pockets between your gums

> and

> > teeth, and does not wash away like other products. It lingers

and

> > therefore prevents the bacteria from " reforming. "

> >

> > OraMD™ is all natural, 100% pure, essential oils of peppermint,

> > spearmint and almond. There are hundreds of varieties of these

> oils

> > from all over the world and they all have different properties.

> This

> > scientific formulation is designed to eliminate bacteria and

> > pathogens and give relief from the causes of gum disease,

> > gingivitis, bleeding gums and bad breath

> >

> >

> >

> > Studies have shown that people with severe gum disease might be

> more

> > likely to have precursors to heart disease than those with

milder

> > forms of the disease, known as periodontitis.

> >

> >

> > The disease in which bacteria infect the gums and bones

supporting

> > the teeth can cause gums to separate from the teeth and from

> > pockets. Scientists had thought that periodontitis was a risk

> factor

> > for heart disease; now researchers have linked the severity of

the

> > condition to the likelihood of symptoms.

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The American Academy of Peridontology

> > Release Date June 18, 1997

> >

> >

> >

> > The American Academy of Periodontology (AAP), Chicago – June 18,

> > 1997 , is concerned about new research linking gum disease to a

> > heart attack or stroke. According to Dr. Rose , AAP

> > President, this new study supports accumulating research that

> > identifies gum disease as significantly increasing the risk for

> > heart disease. The AAP believes emerging research in this area

may

> > establish periodontal disease as a risk factor for

cardiovascular

> > disease.

> >

> >

> >

> > The study presented at the American Association for the

> Advancement

> > of Science meeting suggests that the bacteria present in gum

> disease

> > may trigger blood clots which can contribute to a heart attack

or

> > stroke.

> >

> >

> > The academy urges people who are at-risk for cardiovascular

> disease

> > or have signs of gum disease to consult with a dentist

experienced

> > with treating periodontal disease. Regular periodontal screening

> and

> > evaluations, treatment and professional maintenance are critical

> to

> > long term management of periodontal disease.

> >

> >

> > The American Academy of Restorative Dentistry (AARD) studied the

> > effects of bacteria to possible links between gum and heart

> disease.

> > By exposing human blood platelets to samples of bacteria taken

> > directly from patients' mouth, researchers at Temple University

> > Schools of Dentistry and Medicine have further confirmed a

> possible

> > link between periodontal bacteria and heart disease. Temple 's

> study

> > is the first to take a large number of dental plaque bacteria

> > directly from the mouths of patients with severe periodontal

> disease

> > and test their affect on blood platelets.

> >

> >

> > " Almost immediately after we exposed human blood platelets to

the

> > dental plaque bacteria the platelets began to clump together "

said

> > Dr. Eugene Whitaker , Associated Professor of Dentistry and lead

> > investigator. In addition, " out of all the periodontal bacteria

we

> > tested, porphyromanas gingivitis was the only one to cause this

> > clumping, which is a key step in formation of bloodstream

thrombi

> > (blockage). "

> >

> >

> > Additionally, research from the University of North Carolina at

> > Chapel Hill (UNC-CH) ( 11-13-2000 ) also finds a link between

gum

> > disease and acute heart attacks. Their studies showed that heart

> > attack survivors who suffer advanced gum disease show

> significantly

> > higher levels of a protein in their blood called C-Reactive

> Protein

> > (CRP) than such patients without gum disease.

> >

> >

> > Findings presented (November 12, 2004) during a news conference

at

> > the annual American Heart Association meeting in New Orleans,

> > suggest that the presence of gum disease might increase the risk

> of

> > second heart attack in people with a risk of heart disease.

> >

> >

> > " Not only did the heart attack patients with periodontal disease

> > have higher levels of CRP than those without gum disease, but

the

> > CRP levels were directly related to the severity of the gum

> > disease, " said Dr. Efthymios N. Deliargyris , an interventional

> > cardiologist and a member of the Center for Oral and Systemic

> > Diseases at UNC-CH. " The more severe the gum disease, the higher

> the

> > CRP levels. " Besides Deliargyris, also an instructor in medicine

> at

> > the UNC-CH School of Medicine, study investigators included Drs.

> > Offenbacher , Professor of Periodontology and Center

> > Director, D. Beck , Professor of Dental Ecology and Dr.

> Sidney

> > C. Jr. , Chief of Cardiology and past president of the

> > American Heart Association.

> >

> >

> > " We know a lot of risk factors for heart attacks, including high

> > blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes and cigarette

smoking,

> > but all of those combined only explain about two-thirds of the

> heart

> > attacks, " Deliargyris said. " Since about a third of people who

> > suffer from heart attacks don't have those risk factors, there

is

> a

> > wide search going of for other conditions that may contribute to

> > increased risk.

> >

> >

> > Studies at UNC-CH and elsewhere have linked periodontal disease —

> an

> > advanced form of gingivitis – with increased risk of heart

> attacks,

> > but it has been unclear what the two (2) conditions have in

> common,

> > the physician said. " One thing we know, the two conditions share

> is

> > that they tend to initiate an immune response also called an

> > inflammatory response in the body, " He said. The most common

> marker

> > for this response is the CRP, which is considered predictive of

> > future adverse events like heart attack. " To learn how common

> severe

> > gum disease was in heart attack victims, the UNC-CH team

conducted

> > their pilot study of heart attack patients and matched them with

a

> > comparable group of other people without known heart disease.

> > Research found a high percentage of the former had periodontal

> > disease – 85 percent – as compared with only 29 percent of the

> > controls.

> >

> >

> > One interesting observation was " that among people with a heart

> > attack, those with periodontal disease had much higher CRP

levels

> > than those with a heart attack but no periodontal disease "

> > Deliagyris said. " It seems that the presence of periodontal

> disease

> > on top of a heart attack has a synergistic effect and a very

> > accentuated CRP release. "

> >

> >

> > " This gives us an insight into possible mechanisms underlying

the

> > association between gum disease and heart disease, Deliagyris

> > said. " Now we believe that patients with a heart attack and

> > periodontal disease have an exaggerated inflammatory response

with

> > higher CRP levels that might put them at risk for future heart

> > attacks. This work also raises the possibility that by treating

> > severe gum disease in people with heart attacks, we might be

able

> to

> > reduce their CRP levels and their risk of another heart attack. "

[Guest guest]

Hi, Tony.

Thanks for your comments. I have no problem with using antibiotics

if they are needed. However, I think there should also be some

effort to restore the body's normal ways of operating and protecting

itself, that is, the immune system, the antioxidant system and the

detoxification system. Not every bacteria is one that the body has

no hope of defending itself against. This is the exception, rather

than the norm. Most people should not have to live on antibiotics

in huge doses and in large combinations. Granted, there are some

people who are born with genetic immune deficiencies. But I think

that most people with ongoing infections have immune systems that

are suppressed for one reason or another. Everybody's gums will

bleed if their antioxidant levels go too low. I'm happy that

antibiotics are there if needed. Sometimes they are lifesaving.

But I don't think we should eat them like candy.

Rich

> > >

> > >

> > > I am writing this with much trepedation, reluctant to give the

> > > impression of selling something. Over the course of my illness

> > I've

> > > tried many products. Most of the time I'm too embarrassed to

> admit

> > > I've been dooped into spending money to make someone else

> richer,

> > me

> > > poorer, but no better. Acually my requirements are relatively

> > small.

> > > Just do what you advertise. Why is that so hard sometimes?

> Well,

> > in

> > > the past few months I've been pleasantly surprised by two

> > products.

> > > Shocked acutally.

> > > Nine months ago I saw a dentist to have my dental filings

> > replaced.

> > > At that time I had routine work done as well, and there were

> > > absolutely no reports of gingivitis or peridontal disease.

Four

> > > months later, I returned to the dentist to have a minor

> adjustment

> > > done on one area that he didn't fill quite enough. I was also

> > > concerned about two receding gums that suddenly appeared. He

> told

> > me

> > > I'd have to see someone else, but that gingivitis takes years

> and

> > it

> > > was not an urgent matter. Yet, it nagged at me, for every time

I

> > > brushed, I felt it was getting worse. It was. I saw another

> > dentist,

> > > a specialist, who referred me to an even more specialized

> dentist

> > as

> > > this minor gingivitis had become severe periodontal disease in

a

> > > matter of months. I'm not trying to spook anyone, I do realize

> > that

> > > my case is rare. It seems that low IgG is a precurser or an

> > > activator of periodontal disease. Add a few bacteria and

you've

> > got

> > > major problems. I've had to wait for gum surgery because of

the

> > > problems I've had trying to get IVIG infusions. I was

scheduled

> a

> > > few weeks ago, but had to reschedule after the failed IVIG

> > attempt.

> > > The surgeon insist on making sure that I have adequate gamma

> > > globulin for recovery. That is good, but while waiting I

> stumbled

> > > on to this website for an oil that supposedly killed the

> bacteria

> > > causing all this mess. I decided to give it a try. reluctantly

I

> > > might add because it tastes like nothing you'd want to put in

> your

> > > mouth. Burns...yippee...but then I've got exposed roots I

think.

> > >

> > > After about a week I found that when I licked my teeth, there

> was

> > a

> > > ridge at my gum line that felt like sandpaper. An

accumlulation

> > sort

> > > of. It bothered me enough that I got a toothpick and scratched

> it

> > > off, figuring it would be back by morning. It wasn't . One by

> > > one ,each tooth did this. Low and behold in about ten days all

> of

> > my

> > > teeth felt really good. But I didn't whisper a word to anyone.

I

> > was

> > > sure this was just a fluke. Anyway, I found that as long as I

> > > contined to use the product, the plaque stays away. My dentist

> > > thought I was a real sweetheart, taking care and having

regular

> > > cleanings. I hadn't had a cleaning in seven years. I've had

> dental

> > > work done, just never able to get to a general dentist for the

> > > cleaning, always having specialized work. With all these

> diseases,

> > > things that are routine, get back-burnered. I'm wondering if I

> > > should tell him that it is this oil and not my diligence that

is

> > > helping.

> > > Ok, so it didn't reverse my periodontal disease. I didn't even

> > > expect it to remove the plaque, so I guess I'm still happy

with

> > the

> > > product. I did note when becoming ill and not brushing for a

> > couple

> > > of days, that the plaque came back quicker than dixie. Those

> > little

> > > bacteria suckers must just be waiting in anticipation for me

to

> > not

> > > be attentive so they can swarm in. I found that the results

help

> > > with the taste. If you are sleepy and put too many drops on

your

> > > toothbrush, it'll be a sure fire way to wake you up..

> > > Anyway here are some clips as to what they say on their

website.

> > > here is the link. I don't receive any value for passing this

on,

> > > they don't even know I'm supporting them. Don't want them to

get

> a

> > > big head.

> > > http://www.oramd.com/

> > >

> > > THEY SAY:

> > > Gum disease affects the tissues that surround and support your

> > > teeth. The cause is bacteria, which can turn into tartar and

> > plaque

> > > buildup, irritate your gums and lead to bleeding and receding

> > gums.

> > > Left unchecked, gingivitis can lead to a more serious form of

> gum

> > > disease called periodontitis.

> > > Each drop of OraMD™ helps clean your teeth, gums and mouth of

> > > bacteria causing germs, plaque build up and bad breath. Gum

> > disease

> > > is caused by plaque, a sticky film of bacteria that constantly

> > forms

> > > on the teeth. These bacteria create toxins that damage the

gums

> > and

> > > frequently causes receding gums and pockets . OraMD is an oil.

> It

> > > gets under your gum line, down in the pockets between your

gums

> > and

> > > teeth, and does not wash away like other products. It lingers

> and

> > > therefore prevents the bacteria from " reforming. "

> > >

> > > OraMD™ is all natural, 100% pure, essential oils of

peppermint,

> > > spearmint and almond. There are hundreds of varieties of these

> > oils

> > > from all over the world and they all have different

properties.

> > This

> > > scientific formulation is designed to eliminate bacteria and

> > > pathogens and give relief from the causes of gum disease,

> > > gingivitis, bleeding gums and bad breath

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Studies have shown that people with severe gum disease might

be

> > more

> > > likely to have precursors to heart disease than those with

> milder

> > > forms of the disease, known as periodontitis.

> > >

> > >

> > > The disease in which bacteria infect the gums and bones

> supporting

> > > the teeth can cause gums to separate from the teeth and from

> > > pockets. Scientists had thought that periodontitis was a risk

> > factor

> > > for heart disease; now researchers have linked the severity of

> the

> > > condition to the likelihood of symptoms.

> > >

> > >

> > >  

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The American Academy of Peridontology

> > > Release Date June 18, 1997

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The American Academy of Periodontology (AAP), Chicago – June

18,

> > > 1997 , is concerned about new research linking gum disease to

a

> > > heart attack or stroke. According to Dr. Rose , AAP

> > > President, this new study supports accumulating research that

> > > identifies gum disease as significantly increasing the risk

for

> > > heart disease. The AAP believes emerging research in this area

> may

> > > establish periodontal disease as a risk factor for

> cardiovascular

> > > disease.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The study presented at the American Association for the

> > Advancement

> > > of Science meeting suggests that the bacteria present in gum

> > disease

> > > may trigger blood clots which can contribute to a heart attack

> or

> > > stroke.

> > >

> > >

> > > The academy urges people who are at-risk for cardiovascular

> > disease

> > > or have signs of gum disease to consult with a dentist

> experienced

> > > with treating periodontal disease. Regular periodontal

screening

> > and

> > > evaluations, treatment and professional maintenance are

critical

> > to

> > > long term management of periodontal disease.

> > >

> > >

> > > The American Academy of Restorative Dentistry (AARD) studied

the

> > > effects of bacteria to possible links between gum and heart

> > disease.

> > > By exposing human blood platelets to samples of bacteria taken

> > > directly from patients' mouth, researchers at Temple

University

> > > Schools of Dentistry and Medicine have further confirmed a

> > possible

> > > link between periodontal bacteria and heart disease. Temple 's

> > study

> > > is the first to take a large number of dental plaque bacteria

> > > directly from the mouths of patients with severe periodontal

> > disease

> > > and test their affect on blood platelets.

> > >

> > >

> > > " Almost immediately after we exposed human blood platelets to

> the

> > > dental plaque bacteria the platelets began to clump together "

> said

> > > Dr. Eugene Whitaker , Associated Professor of Dentistry and

lead

> > > investigator. In addition, " out of all the periodontal

bacteria

> we

> > > tested, porphyromanas gingivitis was the only one to cause

this

> > > clumping, which is a key step in formation of bloodstream

> thrombi

> > > (blockage). "

> > >

> > >

> > > Additionally, research from the University of North Carolina

at

> > > Chapel Hill (UNC-CH) ( 11-13-2000 ) also finds a link between

> gum

> > > disease and acute heart attacks. Their studies showed that

heart

> > > attack survivors who suffer advanced gum disease show

> > significantly

> > > higher levels of a protein in their blood called C-Reactive

> > Protein

> > > (CRP) than such patients without gum disease.

> > >

> > >

> > > Findings presented (November 12, 2004) during a news

conference

> at

> > > the annual American Heart Association meeting in New Orleans,

> > > suggest that the presence of gum disease might increase the

risk

> > of

> > > second heart attack in people with a risk of heart disease.

> > >

> > >

> > > " Not only did the heart attack patients with periodontal

disease

> > > have higher levels of CRP than those without gum disease, but

> the

> > > CRP levels were directly related to the severity of the gum

> > > disease, " said Dr. Efthymios N. Deliargyris , an

interventional

> > > cardiologist and a member of the Center for Oral and Systemic

> > > Diseases at UNC-CH. " The more severe the gum disease, the

higher

> > the

> > > CRP levels. " Besides Deliargyris, also an instructor in

medicine

> > at

> > > the UNC-CH School of Medicine, study investigators included

Drs.

> > > Offenbacher , Professor of Periodontology and Center

> > > Director, D. Beck , Professor of Dental Ecology and Dr.

> > Sidney

> > > C. Jr. , Chief of Cardiology and past president of the

> > > American Heart Association.

> > >

> > >

> > > " We know a lot of risk factors for heart attacks, including

high

> > > blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes and cigarette

> smoking,

> > > but all of those combined only explain about two-thirds of the

> > heart

> > > attacks, " Deliargyris said. " Since about a third of people who

> > > suffer from heart attacks don't have those risk factors, there

> is

> > a

> > > wide search going of for other conditions that may contribute

to

> > > increased risk.

> > >

> > >

> > > Studies at UNC-CH and elsewhere have linked periodontal

disease —

>

> > an

> > > advanced form of gingivitis – with increased risk of heart

> > attacks,

> > > but it has been unclear what the two (2) conditions have in

> > common,

> > > the physician said. " One thing we know, the two conditions

share

> > is

> > > that they tend to initiate an immune response also called an

> > > inflammatory response in the body, " He said. The most common

> > marker

> > > for this response is the CRP, which is considered predictive

of

> > > future adverse events like heart attack. " To learn how common

> > severe

> > > gum disease was in heart attack victims, the UNC-CH team

> conducted

> > > their pilot study of heart attack patients and matched them

with

> a

> > > comparable group of other people without known heart disease.

> > > Research found a high percentage of the former had periodontal

> > > disease – 85 percent – as compared with only 29 percent of the

> > > controls.

> > >

> > >

> > > One interesting observation was " that among people with a

heart

> > > attack, those with periodontal disease had much higher CRP

> levels

> > > than those with a heart attack but no periodontal disease "

> > > Deliagyris said. " It seems that the presence of periodontal

> > disease

> > > on top of a heart attack has a synergistic effect and a very

> > > accentuated CRP release. "

> > >

> > >

> > > " This gives us an insight into possible mechanisms underlying

> the

> > > association between gum disease and heart disease, Deliagyris

> > > said. " Now we believe that patients with a heart attack and

> > > periodontal disease have an exaggerated inflammatory response

> with

> > > higher CRP levels that might put them at risk for future heart

> > > attacks. This work also raises the possibility that by

treating

> > > severe gum disease in people with heart attacks, we might be

> able

> > to

> > > reduce their CRP levels and their risk of another heart

attack. "

[Guest guest]

Rich

I feel the picture is one of multiple therapies delivered at the

appropriate times. I just understand that the immune system wasn't

supposed to be exposed to bacterial mutations at the rate they have

been occuring in mdoern medical circles.You can't get in nature a

bacteria resistant to 12 out of 14 antibiotics, this is something

that is passed along by toxic exposure or poor antibiotics choices

in previous therapy.So what do you do? Unless you attempt to balance

this equation I don't care how many anti-oxidants and other

therapies you attempt, you ain't going to fix anything.Again you

need to step back and look carefully at the patient and the extent

of the damage that your trying to reverseIMO.Remember fibro people

live with toxic substances (toxemia) running thru there veins for

years and this is ONE HELL OF AN EXERCISE to reverse with simplistic

measures. I would think something along the lines of chaemotherapy

is more the norm for this extensive damage which no-one knows how to

test for.So Again I emphasis that you just can't fix this without

creating some form of vaccine to switch on the immune system or

acknowledge that on a daily basis people are going down to many

oprganisms quite capable of eluding the immune system.

Rich I come to these conclusions because I know what I'm dealing

with in this ilness. I tend to stretch and attack scar tissue and

granulous tissue at the aggresive end because it's the only time I

get results.

tony

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I am writing this with much trepedation, reluctant to give

the

> > > > impression of selling something. Over the course of my

illness

> > > I've

> > > > tried many products. Most of the time I'm too embarrassed to

> > admit

> > > > I've been dooped into spending money to make someone else

> > richer,

> > > me

> > > > poorer, but no better. Acually my requirements are

relatively

> > > small.

> > > > Just do what you advertise. Why is that so hard sometimes?

> > Well,

> > > in

> > > > the past few months I've been pleasantly surprised by two

> > > products.

> > > > Shocked acutally.

> > > > Nine months ago I saw a dentist to have my dental filings

> > > replaced.

> > > > At that time I had routine work done as well, and there were

> > > > absolutely no reports of gingivitis or peridontal disease.

> Four

> > > > months later, I returned to the dentist to have a minor

> > adjustment

> > > > done on one area that he didn't fill quite enough. I was

also

> > > > concerned about two receding gums that suddenly appeared. He

> > told

> > > me

> > > > I'd have to see someone else, but that gingivitis takes

years

> > and

> > > it

> > > > was not an urgent matter. Yet, it nagged at me, for every

time

> I

> > > > brushed, I felt it was getting worse. It was. I saw another

> > > dentist,

> > > > a specialist, who referred me to an even more specialized

> > dentist

> > > as

> > > > this minor gingivitis had become severe periodontal disease

in

> a

> > > > matter of months. I'm not trying to spook anyone, I do

realize

> > > that

> > > > my case is rare. It seems that low IgG is a precurser or an

> > > > activator of periodontal disease. Add a few bacteria and

> you've

> > > got

> > > > major problems. I've had to wait for gum surgery because of

> the

> > > > problems I've had trying to get IVIG infusions. I was

> scheduled

> > a

> > > > few weeks ago, but had to reschedule after the failed IVIG

> > > attempt.

> > > > The surgeon insist on making sure that I have adequate gamma

> > > > globulin for recovery. That is good, but while waiting I

> > stumbled

> > > > on to this website for an oil that supposedly killed the

> > bacteria

> > > > causing all this mess. I decided to give it a try.

reluctantly

> I

> > > > might add because it tastes like nothing you'd want to put

in

> > your

> > > > mouth. Burns...yippee...but then I've got exposed roots I

> think.

> > > >

> > > > After about a week I found that when I licked my teeth,

there

> > was

> > > a

> > > > ridge at my gum line that felt like sandpaper. An

> accumlulation

> > > sort

> > > > of. It bothered me enough that I got a toothpick and

scratched

> > it

> > > > off, figuring it would be back by morning. It wasn't . One

by

> > > > one ,each tooth did this. Low and behold in about ten days

all

> > of

> > > my

> > > > teeth felt really good. But I didn't whisper a word to

anyone.

> I

> > > was

> > > > sure this was just a fluke. Anyway, I found that as long as

I

> > > > contined to use the product, the plaque stays away. My

dentist

> > > > thought I was a real sweetheart, taking care and having

> regular

> > > > cleanings. I hadn't had a cleaning in seven years. I've had

> > dental

> > > > work done, just never able to get to a general dentist for

the

> > > > cleaning, always having specialized work. With all these

> > diseases,

> > > > things that are routine, get back-burnered. I'm wondering if

I

> > > > should tell him that it is this oil and not my diligence

that

> is

> > > > helping.

> > > > Ok, so it didn't reverse my periodontal disease. I didn't

even

> > > > expect it to remove the plaque, so I guess I'm still happy

> with

> > > the

> > > > product. I did note when becoming ill and not brushing for a

> > > couple

> > > > of days, that the plaque came back quicker than dixie. Those

> > > little

> > > > bacteria suckers must just be waiting in anticipation for me

> to

> > > not

> > > > be attentive so they can swarm in. I found that the results

> help

> > > > with the taste. If you are sleepy and put too many drops on

> your

> > > > toothbrush, it'll be a sure fire way to wake you up..

> > > > Anyway here are some clips as to what they say on their

> website.

> > > > here is the link. I don't receive any value for passing this

> on,

> > > > they don't even know I'm supporting them. Don't want them to

> get

> > a

> > > > big head.

> > > > http://www.oramd.com/

> > > >

> > > > THEY SAY:

> > > > Gum disease affects the tissues that surround and support

your

> > > > teeth. The cause is bacteria, which can turn into tartar and

> > > plaque

> > > > buildup, irritate your gums and lead to bleeding and

receding

> > > gums.

> > > > Left unchecked, gingivitis can lead to a more serious form

of

> > gum

> > > > disease called periodontitis.

> > > > Each drop of OraMD™ helps clean your teeth, gums and mouth

of

> > > > bacteria causing germs, plaque build up and bad breath. Gum

> > > disease

> > > > is caused by plaque, a sticky film of bacteria that

constantly

> > > forms

> > > > on the teeth. These bacteria create toxins that damage the

> gums

> > > and

> > > > frequently causes receding gums and pockets . OraMD is an

oil.

> > It

> > > > gets under your gum line, down in the pockets between your

> gums

> > > and

> > > > teeth, and does not wash away like other products. It

lingers

> > and

> > > > therefore prevents the bacteria from " reforming. "

> > > >

> > > > OraMD™ is all natural, 100% pure, essential oils of

> peppermint,

> > > > spearmint and almond. There are hundreds of varieties of

these

> > > oils

> > > > from all over the world and they all have different

> properties.

> > > This

> > > > scientific formulation is designed to eliminate bacteria and

> > > > pathogens and give relief from the causes of gum disease,

> > > > gingivitis, bleeding gums and bad breath

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Studies have shown that people with severe gum disease might

> be

> > > more

> > > > likely to have precursors to heart disease than those with

> > milder

> > > > forms of the disease, known as periodontitis.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The disease in which bacteria infect the gums and bones

> > supporting

> > > > the teeth can cause gums to separate from the teeth and from

> > > > pockets. Scientists had thought that periodontitis was a

risk

> > > factor

> > > > for heart disease; now researchers have linked the severity

of

> > the

> > > > condition to the likelihood of symptoms.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >  

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The American Academy of Peridontology

> > > > Release Date June 18, 1997

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The American Academy of Periodontology (AAP), Chicago – June

> 18,

> > > > 1997 , is concerned about new research linking gum disease

to

> a

> > > > heart attack or stroke. According to Dr. Rose , AAP

> > > > President, this new study supports accumulating research

that

> > > > identifies gum disease as significantly increasing the risk

> for

> > > > heart disease. The AAP believes emerging research in this

area

> > may

> > > > establish periodontal disease as a risk factor for

> > cardiovascular

> > > > disease.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The study presented at the American Association for the

> > > Advancement

> > > > of Science meeting suggests that the bacteria present in gum

> > > disease

> > > > may trigger blood clots which can contribute to a heart

attack

> > or

> > > > stroke.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The academy urges people who are at-risk for cardiovascular

> > > disease

> > > > or have signs of gum disease to consult with a dentist

> > experienced

> > > > with treating periodontal disease. Regular periodontal

> screening

> > > and

> > > > evaluations, treatment and professional maintenance are

> critical

> > > to

> > > > long term management of periodontal disease.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The American Academy of Restorative Dentistry (AARD) studied

> the

> > > > effects of bacteria to possible links between gum and heart

> > > disease.

> > > > By exposing human blood platelets to samples of bacteria

taken

> > > > directly from patients' mouth, researchers at Temple

> University

> > > > Schools of Dentistry and Medicine have further confirmed a

> > > possible

> > > > link between periodontal bacteria and heart disease.

Temple 's

> > > study

> > > > is the first to take a large number of dental plaque

bacteria

> > > > directly from the mouths of patients with severe periodontal

> > > disease

> > > > and test their affect on blood platelets.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " Almost immediately after we exposed human blood platelets

to

> > the

> > > > dental plaque bacteria the platelets began to clump

together "

> > said

> > > > Dr. Eugene Whitaker , Associated Professor of Dentistry and

> lead

> > > > investigator. In addition, " out of all the periodontal

> bacteria

> > we

> > > > tested, porphyromanas gingivitis was the only one to cause

> this

> > > > clumping, which is a key step in formation of bloodstream

> > thrombi

> > > > (blockage). "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Additionally, research from the University of North Carolina

> at

> > > > Chapel Hill (UNC-CH) ( 11-13-2000 ) also finds a link

between

> > gum

> > > > disease and acute heart attacks. Their studies showed that

> heart

> > > > attack survivors who suffer advanced gum disease show

> > > significantly

> > > > higher levels of a protein in their blood called C-Reactive

> > > Protein

> > > > (CRP) than such patients without gum disease.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Findings presented (November 12, 2004) during a news

> conference

> > at

> > > > the annual American Heart Association meeting in New

Orleans,

> > > > suggest that the presence of gum disease might increase the

> risk

> > > of

> > > > second heart attack in people with a risk of heart disease.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " Not only did the heart attack patients with periodontal

> disease

> > > > have higher levels of CRP than those without gum disease,

but

> > the

> > > > CRP levels were directly related to the severity of the gum

> > > > disease, " said Dr. Efthymios N. Deliargyris , an

> interventional

> > > > cardiologist and a member of the Center for Oral and

Systemic

> > > > Diseases at UNC-CH. " The more severe the gum disease, the

> higher

> > > the

> > > > CRP levels. " Besides Deliargyris, also an instructor in

> medicine

> > > at

> > > > the UNC-CH School of Medicine, study investigators included

> Drs.

> > > > Offenbacher , Professor of Periodontology and Center

> > > > Director, D. Beck , Professor of Dental Ecology and

Dr.

> > > Sidney

> > > > C. Jr. , Chief of Cardiology and past president of the

> > > > American Heart Association.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " We know a lot of risk factors for heart attacks, including

> high

> > > > blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes and cigarette

> > smoking,

> > > > but all of those combined only explain about two-thirds of

the

> > > heart

> > > > attacks, " Deliargyris said. " Since about a third of people

who

> > > > suffer from heart attacks don't have those risk factors,

there

> > is

> > > a

> > > > wide search going of for other conditions that may

contribute

> to

> > > > increased risk.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Studies at UNC-CH and elsewhere have linked periodontal

> disease —

> >

> > > an

> > > > advanced form of gingivitis – with increased risk of heart

> > > attacks,

> > > > but it has been unclear what the two (2) conditions have in

> > > common,

> > > > the physician said. " One thing we know, the two conditions

> share

> > > is

> > > > that they tend to initiate an immune response also called an

> > > > inflammatory response in the body, " He said. The most common

> > > marker

> > > > for this response is the CRP, which is considered predictive

> of

> > > > future adverse events like heart attack. " To learn how

common

> > > severe

> > > > gum disease was in heart attack victims, the UNC-CH team

> > conducted

> > > > their pilot study of heart attack patients and matched them

> with

> > a

> > > > comparable group of other people without known heart

disease.

> > > > Research found a high percentage of the former had

periodontal

> > > > disease – 85 percent – as compared with only 29 percent of

the

> > > > controls.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > One interesting observation was " that among people with a

> heart

> > > > attack, those with periodontal disease had much higher CRP

> > levels

> > > > than those with a heart attack but no periodontal disease "

> > > > Deliagyris said. " It seems that the presence of periodontal

> > > disease

> > > > on top of a heart attack has a synergistic effect and a very

> > > > accentuated CRP release. "

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > " This gives us an insight into possible mechanisms

underlying

> > the

> > > > association between gum disease and heart disease,

Deliagyris

> > > > said. " Now we believe that patients with a heart attack and

> > > > periodontal disease have an exaggerated inflammatory

response

> > with

> > > > higher CRP levels that might put them at risk for future

heart

> > > > attacks. This work also raises the possibility that by

> treating

> > > > severe gum disease in people with heart attacks, we might be

> > able

> > > to

> > > > reduce their CRP levels and their risk of another heart

> attack. "

[Guest guest]

, you wrote "Not every bacteria is one that the body has no hope of defending itself against. This is the exception, rather than the norm. Most people should not have to live on antibiotics "

But we do you see, We are the exception ..There's not much doubt of the pathogen we are mostly infected with , that is a spirochete , It's a stealth pathogen , that is the IS doesn't recognise it as an antigen ..The model for this is Chlamidyia the so called silent invader ...Chlam succumbs to Abx's without much trouble..but Spiro's don't ..thereby hangs the tale....It's not much use having a perfectly normal functioning IS if the organisms can camouflage themselves so well that The IS is unaware of their presents. Add to that the profound anergy we develop to the chronic infection ..and things really do start to stack up , we hope that given the right circumstances our IS will kick in, will mop up the spiros but it must be said without additional aid it's a long shot.

So while i/we thank you for your considerable insight & detective work on glutathione depletion and it's consequences , it's quite obvious that it's only one of many functions that go down the chute on contracting an intractable infection.

What we need is research into how we can flag up the bugs to the IS.... hit at the heart of the problem ..Until then most will continue to take antibiotics..and I tell you that the cost of which together with the depressing fact that the dreaded symptoms are kept at bay just as long as resources last out And the hoped for support from the doctors is not forthcoming , because most have pulled the plug .Makes the taking of antibiotics far from like taking candy they become the bitterest of pills to take in every sense of the word..

-----Original Message-----From: infections [mailto:infections ]On Behalf Of rvankonynenSent: 21 September 2005 02:31infections Subject: [infections] Re: Tooth oil to control bacteria?Hi, Tony.Thanks for your comments. I have no problem with using antibiotics if they are needed. However, I think there should also be some effort to restore the body's normal ways of operating and protecting itself, that is, the immune system, the antioxidant system and the detoxification system. Not every bacteria is one that the body has no hope of defending itself against. This is the exception, rather than the norm. Most people should not have to live on antibiotics in huge doses and in large combinations. Granted, there are some people who are born with genetic immune deficiencies. But I think that most people with ongoing infections have immune systems that are suppressed for one reason or another. Everybody's gums will bleed if their antioxidant levels go too low. I'm happy that antibiotics are there if needed. Sometimes they are lifesaving. But I don't think we should eat them like candy.Rich> > > > > > > > > I am writing this with much trepedation, reluctant to give the > > > impression of selling something. Over the course of my illness > > I've > > > tried many products. Most of the time I'm too embarrassed to > admit > > > I've been dooped into spending money to make someone else > richer, > > me > > > poorer, but no better. Acually my requirements are relatively > > small. > > > Just do what you advertise. Why is that so hard sometimes? > Well, > > in > > > the past few months I've been pleasantly surprised by two > > products. > > > Shocked acutally. > > > Nine months ago I saw a dentist to have my dental filings > > replaced. > > > At that time I had routine work done as well, and there were > > > absolutely no reports of gingivitis or peridontal disease. Four > > > months later, I returned to the dentist to have a minor > adjustment > > > done on one area that he didn't fill quite enough. I was also > > > concerned about two receding gums that suddenly appeared. He > told > > me > > > I'd have to see someone else, but that gingivitis takes years > and > > it > > > was not an urgent matter. Yet, it nagged at me, for every time I > > > brushed, I felt it was getting worse. It was. I saw another > > dentist, > > > a specialist, who referred me to an even more specialized > dentist > > as > > > this minor gingivitis had become severe periodontal disease in a > > > matter of months. I'm not trying to spook anyone, I do realize > > that > > > my case is rare. It seems that low IgG is a precurser or an > > > activator of periodontal disease. Add a few bacteria and you've > > got > > > major problems. I've had to wait for gum surgery because of the > > > problems I've had trying to get IVIG infusions. I was scheduled > a > > > few weeks ago, but had to reschedule after the failed IVIG > > attempt. > > > The surgeon insist on making sure that I have adequate gamma > > > globulin for recovery. That is good, but while waiting I > stumbled > > > on to this website for an oil that supposedly killed the > bacteria > > > causing all this mess. I decided to give it a try. reluctantly I > > > might add because it tastes like nothing you'd want to put in > your > > > mouth. Burns...yippee...but then I've got exposed roots I think. > > > > > > After about a week I found that when I licked my teeth, there > was > > a > > > ridge at my gum line that felt like sandpaper. An accumlulation > > sort > > > of. It bothered me enough that I got a toothpick and scratched > it > > > off, figuring it would be back by morning. It wasn't . One by > > > one ,each tooth did this. Low and behold in about ten days all > of > > my > > > teeth felt really good. But I didn't whisper a word to anyone. I > > was > > > sure this was just a fluke. Anyway, I found that as long as I > > > contined to use the product, the plaque stays away. My dentist > > > thought I was a real sweetheart, taking care and having regular > > > cleanings. I hadn't had a cleaning in seven years. I've had > dental > > > work done, just never able to get to a general dentist for the > > > cleaning, always having specialized work. With all these > diseases, > > > things that are routine, get back-burnered. I'm wondering if I > > > should tell him that it is this oil and not my diligence that is > > > helping. > > > Ok, so it didn't reverse my periodontal disease. I didn't even > > > expect it to remove the plaque, so I guess I'm still happy with > > the > > > product. I did note when becoming ill and not brushing for a > > couple > > > of days, that the plaque came back quicker than dixie. Those > > little > > > bacteria suckers must just be waiting in anticipation for me to > > not > > > be attentive so they can swarm in. I found that the results help > > > with the taste. If you are sleepy and put too many drops on your > > > toothbrush, it'll be a sure fire way to wake you up.. > > > Anyway here are some clips as to what they say on their website. > > > here is the link. I don't receive any value for passing this on, > > > they don't even know I'm supporting them. Don't want them to get > a > > > big head. > > > http://www.oramd.com/> > > > > > THEY SAY:> > > Gum disease affects the tissues that surround and support your > > > teeth. The cause is bacteria, which can turn into tartar and > > plaque > > > buildup, irritate your gums and lead to bleeding and receding > > gums. > > > Left unchecked, gingivitis can lead to a more serious form of > gum > > > disease called periodontitis. > > > Each drop of OraMD™ helps clean your teeth, gums and mouth of > > > bacteria causing germs, plaque build up and bad breath. Gum > > disease > > > is caused by plaque, a sticky film of bacteria that constantly > > forms > > > on the teeth. These bacteria create toxins that damage the gums > > and > > > frequently causes receding gums and pockets . OraMD is an oil. > It > > > gets under your gum line, down in the pockets between your gums > > and > > > teeth, and does not wash away like other products. It lingers > and > > > therefore prevents the bacteria from "reforming."> > > > > > OraMD™ is all natural, 100% pure, essential oils of peppermint, > > > spearmint and almond. There are hundreds of varieties of these > > oils > > > from all over the world and they all have different properties. > > This > > > scientific formulation is designed to eliminate bacteria and > > > pathogens and give relief from the causes of gum disease, > > > gingivitis, bleeding gums and bad breath> > > > > > > > > > > > Studies have shown that people with severe gum disease might be > > more > > > likely to have precursors to heart disease than those with > milder > > > forms of the disease, known as periodontitis. > > > > > > > > > The disease in which bacteria infect the gums and bones > supporting > > > the teeth can cause gums to separate from the teeth and from > > > pockets. Scientists had thought that periodontitis was a risk > > factor > > > for heart disease; now researchers have linked the severity of > the > > > condition to the likelihood of symptoms.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The American Academy of Peridontology > > > Release Date June 18, 1997> > > > > > > > > > > > The American Academy of Periodontology (AAP), Chicago – June 18, > > > 1997 , is concerned about new research linking gum disease to a > > > heart attack or stroke. According to Dr. Rose , AAP > > > President, this new study supports accumulating research that > > > identifies gum disease as significantly increasing the risk for > > > heart disease. The AAP believes emerging research in this area > may > > > establish periodontal disease as a risk factor for > cardiovascular > > > disease.> > > > > > > > > > > > The study presented at the American Association for the > > Advancement > > > of Science meeting suggests that the bacteria present in gum > > disease > > > may trigger blood clots which can contribute to a heart attack > or > > > stroke. > > > > > > > > > The academy urges people who are at-risk for cardiovascular > > disease > > > or have signs of gum disease to consult with a dentist > experienced > > > with treating periodontal disease. Regular periodontal screening > > and > > > evaluations, treatment and professional maintenance are critical > > to > > > long term management of periodontal disease.> > > > > > > > > The American Academy of Restorative Dentistry (AARD) studied the > > > effects of bacteria to possible links between gum and heart > > disease. > > > By exposing human blood platelets to samples of bacteria taken > > > directly from patients' mouth, researchers at Temple University > > > Schools of Dentistry and Medicine have further confirmed a > > possible > > > link between periodontal bacteria and heart disease. Temple 's > > study > > > is the first to take a large number of dental plaque bacteria > > > directly from the mouths of patients with severe periodontal > > disease > > > and test their affect on blood platelets.> > > > > > > > > "Almost immediately after we exposed human blood platelets to > the > > > dental plaque bacteria the platelets began to clump together" > said > > > Dr. Eugene Whitaker , Associated Professor of Dentistry and lead > > > investigator. In addition, "out of all the periodontal bacteria > we > > > tested, porphyromanas gingivitis was the only one to cause this > > > clumping, which is a key step in formation of bloodstream > thrombi > > > (blockage)."> > > > > > > > > Additionally, research from the University of North Carolina at > > > Chapel Hill (UNC-CH) ( 11-13-2000 ) also finds a link between > gum > > > disease and acute heart attacks. Their studies showed that heart > > > attack survivors who suffer advanced gum disease show > > significantly > > > higher levels of a protein in their blood called C-Reactive > > Protein > > > (CRP) than such patients without gum disease.> > > > > > > > > Findings presented (November 12, 2004) during a news conference > at > > > the annual American Heart Association meeting in New Orleans, > > > suggest that the presence of gum disease might increase the risk > > of > > > second heart attack in people with a risk of heart disease.> > > > > > > > > "Not only did the heart attack patients with periodontal disease > > > have higher levels of CRP than those without gum disease, but > the > > > CRP levels were directly related to the severity of the gum > > > disease," said Dr. Efthymios N. Deliargyris , an interventional > > > cardiologist and a member of the Center for Oral and Systemic > > > Diseases at UNC-CH. "The more severe the gum disease, the higher > > the > > > CRP levels." Besides Deliargyris, also an instructor in medicine > > at > > > the UNC-CH School of Medicine, study investigators included Drs. > > > Offenbacher , Professor of Periodontology and Center > > > Director, D. Beck , Professor of Dental Ecology and Dr. > > Sidney > > > C. Jr. , Chief of Cardiology and past president of the > > > American Heart Association.> > > > > > > > > "We know a lot of risk factors for heart attacks, including high > > > blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes and cigarette > smoking, > > > but all of those combined only explain about two-thirds of the > > heart > > > attacks," Deliargyris said. "Since about a third of people who > > > suffer from heart attacks don't have those risk factors, there > is > > a > > > wide search going of for other conditions that may contribute to > > > increased risk.> > > > > > > > > Studies at UNC-CH and elsewhere have linked periodontal disease —> > > an > > > advanced form of gingivitis – with increased risk of heart > > attacks, > > > but it has been unclear what the two (2) conditions have in > > common, > > > the physician said. "One thing we know, the two conditions share > > is > > > that they tend to initiate an immune response also called an > > > inflammatory response in the body," He said. The most common > > marker > > > for this response is the CRP, which is considered predictive of > > > future adverse events like heart attack." To learn how common > > severe > > > gum disease was in heart attack victims, the UNC-CH team > conducted > > > their pilot study of heart attack patients and matched them with > a > > > comparable group of other people without known heart disease. > > > Research found a high percentage of the former had periodontal > > > disease – 85 percent – as compared with only 29 percent of the > > > controls.> > > > > > > > > One interesting observation was "that among people with a heart > > > attack, those with periodontal disease had much higher CRP > levels > > > than those with a heart attack but no periodontal disease" > > > Deliagyris said. "It seems that the presence of periodontal > > disease > > > on top of a heart attack has a synergistic effect and a very > > > accentuated CRP release."> > > > > > > > > "This gives us an insight into possible mechanisms underlying > the > > > association between gum disease and heart disease, Deliagyris > > > said. "Now we believe that patients with a heart attack and > > > periodontal disease have an exaggerated inflammatory response > with > > > higher CRP levels that might put them at risk for future heart > > > attacks. This work also raises the possibility that by treating > > > severe gum disease in people with heart attacks, we might be > able > > to > > > reduce their CRP levels and their risk of another heart attack."

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much for the info, and I credit you and Barb and others

for getting me started with glutathione IV about three months ago---

Also I supplement with glutathione suppositories during the week as

I am only able to get to the doctor for the IV glutathione once a

week. I also supplement heavilty with vitamin C, glandulars, coq100,

dhea, pregnenalone, thymus protien, etc. etc. My list is

ridiculously long. My supplements are concentrated in liquid and

sublingual form. Oh, yes, I really, really am dilignet with

probiotics and enzymes.

Nellie,

the ingredients I believe are spearment oil, peppermint oil,plus

one more I forget, nothing really mysterious. Sorry I failed to

mention that.

I know I don't contribute as much as I receive, but just wanted to

say that it is the information that I read here that I credit so

much of any progress I've made. I wanted to thank all here for

the " above-reproach " manner in which messages are accepted. Always

leaving room for differences in level of understanding, etc. I have

always looked for information that I can implement into my wellness.

There is something out there for everyone.

Thanks again.

Peg

In infections , " rvankonynen "

<richvank@a...> wrote:

> Hi, Peg.

>

> I'm glad you were able to get some relief by using this oil.

>

> I think there is pretty good evidence now that what happens in

> periodontal disease is that the polymorphonuclear leukocytes

(mainly

> the neutrophils) generate a lot of reactive oxygen species (ROS)

to

> combat the bacteria. If the body has a low antioxidant status,

the

> excess ROS cannot be quenched, and they attack the periodontal

> ligament, resulting in damage to the support of the teeth.

>

> I can understand that the oil would deter the bacteria, and thus

> cool down the neutrophil response. However, I think an even

better

> approach would be to get the antioxidant status up by building

> glutathione, vitamin C and vitamin E levels. I think this will

work

> wonders to clear up problems with the gums.

>

> In my view, the gum problems observed in CFS are one more

> manifestation of glutathione depletion, of which there are many.

> And you're right, this has implications for the heart, which is

also

> starting to be recognized as a major target organ in CFS.

>

> Rich

>

>

> >

> >

> > I am writing this with much trepedation, reluctant to give the

> > impression of selling something. Over the course of my illness

> I've

> > tried many products. Most of the time I'm too embarrassed to

admit

> > I've been dooped into spending money to make someone else

richer,

> me

> > poorer, but no better. Acually my requirements are relatively

> small.

> > Just do what you advertise. Why is that so hard sometimes?

Well,

> in

> > the past few months I've been pleasantly surprised by two

> products.

> > Shocked acutally.

> > Nine months ago I saw a dentist to have my dental filings

> replaced.

> > At that time I had routine work done as well, and there were

> > absolutely no reports of gingivitis or peridontal disease. Four

> > months later, I returned to the dentist to have a minor

adjustment

> > done on one area that he didn't fill quite enough. I was also

> > concerned about two receding gums that suddenly appeared. He

told

> me

> > I'd have to see someone else, but that gingivitis takes years

and

> it

> > was not an urgent matter. Yet, it nagged at me, for every time I

> > brushed, I felt it was getting worse. It was. I saw another

> dentist,

> > a specialist, who referred me to an even more specialized

dentist

> as

> > this minor gingivitis had become severe periodontal disease in a

> > matter of months. I'm not trying to spook anyone, I do realize

> that

> > my case is rare. It seems that low IgG is a precurser or an

> > activator of periodontal disease. Add a few bacteria and you've

> got

> > major problems. I've had to wait for gum surgery because of the

> > problems I've had trying to get IVIG infusions. I was scheduled

a

> > few weeks ago, but had to reschedule after the failed IVIG

> attempt.

> > The surgeon insist on making sure that I have adequate gamma

> > globulin for recovery. That is good, but while waiting I

stumbled

> > on to this website for an oil that supposedly killed the

bacteria

> > causing all this mess. I decided to give it a try. reluctantly I

> > might add because it tastes like nothing you'd want to put in

your

> > mouth. Burns...yippee...but then I've got exposed roots I think.

> >

> > After about a week I found that when I licked my teeth, there

was

> a

> > ridge at my gum line that felt like sandpaper. An accumlulation

> sort

> > of. It bothered me enough that I got a toothpick and scratched

it

> > off, figuring it would be back by morning. It wasn't . One by

> > one ,each tooth did this. Low and behold in about ten days all

of

> my

> > teeth felt really good. But I didn't whisper a word to anyone. I

> was

> > sure this was just a fluke. Anyway, I found that as long as I

> > contined to use the product, the plaque stays away. My dentist

> > thought I was a real sweetheart, taking care and having regular

> > cleanings. I hadn't had a cleaning in seven years. I've had

dental

> > work done, just never able to get to a general dentist for the

> > cleaning, always having specialized work. With all these

diseases,

> > things that are routine, get back-burnered. I'm wondering if I

> > should tell him that it is this oil and not my diligence that is

> > helping.

> > Ok, so it didn't reverse my periodontal disease. I didn't even

> > expect it to remove the plaque, so I guess I'm still happy with

> the

> > product. I did note when becoming ill and not brushing for a

> couple

> > of days, that the plaque came back quicker than dixie. Those

> little

> > bacteria suckers must just be waiting in anticipation for me to

> not

> > be attentive so they can swarm in. I found that the results help

> > with the taste. If you are sleepy and put too many drops on your

> > toothbrush, it'll be a sure fire way to wake you up..

> > Anyway here are some clips as to what they say on their website.

> > here is the link. I don't receive any value for passing this on,

> > they don't even know I'm supporting them. Don't want them to get

a

> > big head.

> > http://www.oramd.com/

> >

> > THEY SAY:

> > Gum disease affects the tissues that surround and support your

> > teeth. The cause is bacteria, which can turn into tartar and

> plaque

> > buildup, irritate your gums and lead to bleeding and receding

> gums.

> > Left unchecked, gingivitis can lead to a more serious form of

gum

> > disease called periodontitis.

> > Each drop of OraMD™ helps clean your teeth, gums and mouth of

> > bacteria causing germs, plaque build up and bad breath. Gum

> disease

> > is caused by plaque, a sticky film of bacteria that constantly

> forms

> > on the teeth. These bacteria create toxins that damage the gums

> and

> > frequently causes receding gums and pockets . OraMD is an oil.

It

> > gets under your gum line, down in the pockets between your gums

> and

> > teeth, and does not wash away like other products. It lingers

and

> > therefore prevents the bacteria from " reforming. "

> >

> > OraMD™ is all natural, 100% pure, essential oils of peppermint,

> > spearmint and almond. There are hundreds of varieties of these

> oils

> > from all over the world and they all have different properties.

> This

> > scientific formulation is designed to eliminate bacteria and

> > pathogens and give relief from the causes of gum disease,

> > gingivitis, bleeding gums and bad breath

> >

> >

> >

> > Studies have shown that people with severe gum disease might be

> more

> > likely to have precursors to heart disease than those with

milder

> > forms of the disease, known as periodontitis.

> >

> >

> > The disease in which bacteria infect the gums and bones

supporting

> > the teeth can cause gums to separate from the teeth and from

> > pockets. Scientists had thought that periodontitis was a risk

> factor

> > for heart disease; now researchers have linked the severity of

the

> > condition to the likelihood of symptoms.

> >

> >

> >  

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > The American Academy of Peridontology

> > Release Date June 18, 1997

> >

> >

> >

> > The American Academy of Periodontology (AAP), Chicago – June 18,

> > 1997 , is concerned about new research linking gum disease to a

> > heart attack or stroke. According to Dr. Rose , AAP

> > President, this new study supports accumulating research that

> > identifies gum disease as significantly increasing the risk for

> > heart disease. The AAP believes emerging research in this area

may

> > establish periodontal disease as a risk factor for

cardiovascular

> > disease.

> >

> >

> >

> > The study presented at the American Association for the

> Advancement

> > of Science meeting suggests that the bacteria present in gum

> disease

> > may trigger blood clots which can contribute to a heart attack

or

> > stroke.

> >

> >

> > The academy urges people who are at-risk for cardiovascular

> disease

> > or have signs of gum disease to consult with a dentist

experienced

> > with treating periodontal disease. Regular periodontal screening

> and

> > evaluations, treatment and professional maintenance are critical

> to

> > long term management of periodontal disease.

> >

> >

> > The American Academy of Restorative Dentistry (AARD) studied the

> > effects of bacteria to possible links between gum and heart

> disease.

> > By exposing human blood platelets to samples of bacteria taken

> > directly from patients' mouth, researchers at Temple University

> > Schools of Dentistry and Medicine have further confirmed a

> possible

> > link between periodontal bacteria and heart disease. Temple 's

> study

> > is the first to take a large number of dental plaque bacteria

> > directly from the mouths of patients with severe periodontal

> disease

> > and test their affect on blood platelets.

> >

> >

> > " Almost immediately after we exposed human blood platelets to

the

> > dental plaque bacteria the platelets began to clump together "

said

> > Dr. Eugene Whitaker , Associated Professor of Dentistry and lead

> > investigator. In addition, " out of all the periodontal bacteria

we

> > tested, porphyromanas gingivitis was the only one to cause this

> > clumping, which is a key step in formation of bloodstream

thrombi

> > (blockage). "

> >

> >

> > Additionally, research from the University of North Carolina at

> > Chapel Hill (UNC-CH) ( 11-13-2000 ) also finds a link between

gum

> > disease and acute heart attacks. Their studies showed that heart

> > attack survivors who suffer advanced gum disease show

> significantly

> > higher levels of a protein in their blood called C-Reactive

> Protein

> > (CRP) than such patients without gum disease.

> >

> >

> > Findings presented (November 12, 2004) during a news conference

at

> > the annual American Heart Association meeting in New Orleans,

> > suggest that the presence of gum disease might increase the risk

> of

> > second heart attack in people with a risk of heart disease.

> >

> >

> > " Not only did the heart attack patients with periodontal disease

> > have higher levels of CRP than those without gum disease, but

the

> > CRP levels were directly related to the severity of the gum

> > disease, " said Dr. Efthymios N. Deliargyris , an interventional

> > cardiologist and a member of the Center for Oral and Systemic

> > Diseases at UNC-CH. " The more severe the gum disease, the higher

> the

> > CRP levels. " Besides Deliargyris, also an instructor in medicine

> at

> > the UNC-CH School of Medicine, study investigators included Drs.

> > Offenbacher , Professor of Periodontology and Center

> > Director, D. Beck , Professor of Dental Ecology and Dr.

> Sidney

> > C. Jr. , Chief of Cardiology and past president of the

> > American Heart Association.

> >

> >

> > " We know a lot of risk factors for heart attacks, including high

> > blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes and cigarette

smoking,

> > but all of those combined only explain about two-thirds of the

> heart

> > attacks, " Deliargyris said. " Since about a third of people who

> > suffer from heart attacks don't have those risk factors, there

is

> a

> > wide search going of for other conditions that may contribute to

> > increased risk.

> >

> >

> > Studies at UNC-CH and elsewhere have linked periodontal disease —

> an

> > advanced form of gingivitis – with increased risk of heart

> attacks,

> > but it has been unclear what the two (2) conditions have in

> common,

> > the physician said. " One thing we know, the two conditions share

> is

> > that they tend to initiate an immune response also called an

> > inflammatory response in the body, " He said. The most common

> marker

> > for this response is the CRP, which is considered predictive of

> > future adverse events like heart attack. " To learn how common

> severe

> > gum disease was in heart attack victims, the UNC-CH team

conducted

> > their pilot study of heart attack patients and matched them with

a

> > comparable group of other people without known heart disease.

> > Research found a high percentage of the former had periodontal

> > disease – 85 percent – as compared with only 29 percent of the

> > controls.

> >

> >

> > One interesting observation was " that among people with a heart

> > attack, those with periodontal disease had much higher CRP

levels

> > than those with a heart attack but no periodontal disease "

> > Deliagyris said. " It seems that the presence of periodontal

> disease

> > on top of a heart attack has a synergistic effect and a very

> > accentuated CRP release. "

> >

> >

> > " This gives us an insight into possible mechanisms underlying

the

> > association between gum disease and heart disease, Deliagyris

> > said. " Now we believe that patients with a heart attack and

> > periodontal disease have an exaggerated inflammatory response

with

> > higher CRP levels that might put them at risk for future heart

> > attacks. This work also raises the possibility that by treating

> > severe gum disease in people with heart attacks, we might be

able

> to

> > reduce their CRP levels and their risk of another heart attack. "