Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Sue this is good- but the questionable part for me is that he is capable of curing you with a few doses of amoxacillin? which is generally considered highly resistant to Bb. I mean the statistics make it possable to have a complete eradication if you come down 90% with just a small effort. My tip would be to keep the doxy going while doing the amoxacillin.2 drugs reducing a load that seems to respond so nicely is awesome.I would throw some salts in for good measure. > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you might be > interested in my findings today. > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in NY mostly > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in NY, he > also sees a lot of Lyme. > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you with > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that he has > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - a way > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often missed > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually measure, > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O-Ring testing > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I take my > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct the > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels again to be > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > Well, it was really interesting today. > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I had very > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder and repro > organs. > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various bacteria that > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams (mg) of Bb > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and reproductive > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most of his > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in me. > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the acupoint > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we tested again > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. In other > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my hands, then > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and would need > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would do that > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have visible cysts > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems everywhere as I > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected several times. > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the levels > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms everywhere. 10ng!!! > I find that just fascinating. > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on amoxicillian X4 a > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose to " direct " > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I test as > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or sometimes > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being responsive to. > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. Always X > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of cilantro > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy and > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand as > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had any idea > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept complaining of > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all the time. > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. Dr Omura > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When I tested > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I did and > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally gone, > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > Cheers, > *S* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 75% better! You must be very happy Sue. Just one question though- Why does your Doc think Doxy and Amoxi have to be compounded? Are the compounds different? (Molecules smaller or something?) Barb > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you might be > interested in my findings today. > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in NY mostly > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in NY, he > also sees a lot of Lyme. > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you with > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that he has > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - a way > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often missed > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually measure, > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O-Ring testing > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I take my > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct the > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels again to be > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > Well, it was really interesting today. > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I had very > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder and repro > organs. > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various bacteria that > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams (mg) of Bb > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and reproductive > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most of his > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in me. > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the acupoint > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we tested again > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. In other > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my hands, then > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and would need > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would do that > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have visible cysts > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems everywhere as I > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected several times. > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the levels > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms everywhere. 10ng!!! > I find that just fascinating. > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on amoxicillian X4 a > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose to " direct " > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I test as > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or sometimes > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being responsive to. > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. Always X > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of cilantro > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy and > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand as > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had any idea > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept complaining of > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all the time. > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. Dr Omura > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When I tested > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I did and > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally gone, > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > Cheers, > *S* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Interesting about the lyme, I really think it is underlying and the others piggyback. Where is your dentist located? I do think the slide thing can work...Nogier's work was similar. I still have my doubts about Omura as you know, but thanx for the report. > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you might be > interested in my findings today. > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in NY mostly > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in NY, he > also sees a lot of Lyme. > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you with > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that he has > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - a way > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often missed > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually measure, > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O-Ring testing > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I take my > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct the > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels again to be > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > Well, it was really interesting today. > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I had very > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder and repro > organs. > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various bacteria that > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams (mg) of Bb > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and reproductive > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most of his > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in me. > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the acupoint > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we tested again > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. In other > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my hands, then > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and would need > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would do that > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have visible cysts > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems everywhere as I > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected several times. > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the levels > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms everywhere. 10ng!!! > I find that just fascinating. > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on amoxicillian X4 a > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose to " direct " > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I test as > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or sometimes > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being responsive to. > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. Always X > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of cilantro > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy and > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand as > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had any idea > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept complaining of > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all the time. > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. Dr Omura > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When I tested > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I did and > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally gone, > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > Cheers, > *S* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Hi Tony, I don't know how to answer that - He never claimed to be able to " cure " me - we were just fooling around with the process when we started this. Also, I am almost always on one antibiotic or another. I can't remember more than a week or two of not being on doxy or amoxy or something since June 2004. I will consider doubling up - it has crossed my mind several times except that on just one antibiotic, the pain in my joints really gets to me and the constipation from pain medications just makes it worse so i avoid them until necessary. I can only imagine what taking two antibiotics would do to me. *S* > > > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you might be > > interested in my findings today. > > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in NY > mostly > > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in NY, he > > also sees a lot of Lyme. > > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you with > > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that he has > > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - a way > > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often missed > > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually > measure, > > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O-Ring testing > > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I take my > > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct the > > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels again to be > > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > > > Well, it was really interesting today. > > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I had > very > > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder and > repro > > organs. > > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various bacteria > that > > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams (mg) of Bb > > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and reproductive > > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most of his > > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in me. > > > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the acupoint > > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we tested again > > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. In > other > > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my hands, > then > > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and would > need > > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would do that > > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have visible cysts > > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems everywhere as > I > > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected several > times. > > > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the levels > > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms everywhere. > 10ng!!! > > I find that just fascinating. > > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on amoxicillian X4 a > > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose to " direct " > > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I test as > > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or sometimes > > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being responsive > to. > > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. Always > X > > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of > cilantro > > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy and > > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand as > > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had any > idea > > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept complaining of > > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all the > time. > > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. Dr Omura > > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When I > tested > > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I did and > > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally gone, > > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > > Cheers, > > *S* > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 I still have my days - usually due to die-off. The meds are compounded because we found that if they weren't, they didn't work. The doxy is a peach colored tablet and the amoxy has no dyes. The doxy capsules I started with did absolutely nothing for me but make me nauseous. I wasted a lot of money at first, as we learned this, (on bad meds) because I would buy the Flagyl for example, take it, and nothing would happen, then the next week we would test with it and discover that it wasn't effective. Can't return an Rx - well, I did once but it was a difficult battle. We knew nothing of what we were doing in the beginning - just trusting the Omura process and the results. Later, as my Dr got more patients we found that these compounded meds worked better for everyone he tested them with. *S* > > > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you might be > > interested in my findings today. > > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in NY mostly > > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in NY, he > > also sees a lot of Lyme. > > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you with > > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that he has > > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - a way > > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often missed > > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually > measure, > > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O-Ring testing > > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I take my > > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct the > > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels again to be > > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > > > Well, it was really interesting today. > > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I had very > > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder and repro > > organs. > > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various bacteria > that > > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams (mg) of Bb > > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and reproductive > > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most of his > > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in me. > > > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the acupoint > > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we tested again > > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. In other > > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my hands, > then > > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and would > need > > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would do that > > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have visible cysts > > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems everywhere as > I > > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected several > times. > > > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the levels > > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms everywhere. > 10ng!!! > > I find that just fascinating. > > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on amoxicillian X4 a > > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose to " direct " > > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I test as > > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or sometimes > > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being responsive to. > > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. Always > X > > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of cilantro > > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy and > > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand as > > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had any idea > > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept complaining of > > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all the > time. > > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. Dr Omura > > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When I tested > > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I did and > > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally gone, > > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > > Cheers, > > *S* > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Sue You and your doctor should do best for you. I just ran it past you as I found most people get well with 2 drugs and they are more up in the air with one.Basically single therapy was alway's a looser across the board. > > > > > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you might be > > > interested in my findings today. > > > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in NY > > mostly > > > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in NY, he > > > also sees a lot of Lyme. > > > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you with > > > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that he > has > > > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - a > way > > > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often missed > > > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > > > > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually > > measure, > > > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O-Ring testing > > > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I take > my > > > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct the > > > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels again to > be > > > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > > > > > Well, it was really interesting today. > > > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I had > > very > > > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder and > > repro > > > organs. > > > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various bacteria > > that > > > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams (mg) of > Bb > > > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and reproductive > > > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most of his > > > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in me. > > > > > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the acupoint > > > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we tested > again > > > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. In > > other > > > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my hands, > > then > > > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and would > > need > > > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would do that > > > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have visible > cysts > > > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems everywhere > as > > I > > > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected several > > times. > > > > > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the > levels > > > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms everywhere. > > 10ng!!! > > > I find that just fascinating. > > > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on amoxicillian X4 a > > > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose to " direct " > > > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > > > > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I test as > > > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or sometimes > > > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being responsive > > to. > > > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. > Always > > X > > > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of > > cilantro > > > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > > > > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy and > > > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand as > > > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > > > > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had any > > idea > > > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept complaining of > > > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all the > > time. > > > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. Dr > Omura > > > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When I > > tested > > > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I did and > > > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > > > > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally gone, > > > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > > > > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > > > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > > > Cheers, > > > *S* > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Greetings, This note is late as I'm sure the topic has flown the page by now, but it has haunted my mind every since reading it. I say that in a good sense. The article was posted by Sue giving her insights to a treatment that she is receiving to optimize the availability of antibiotics to " blocked " areas. I want to mention here that reading your words Sue, literally opened up a flood gate of emotions, for I had not known that anyone else suffered with pain to the degree that I do. I'm trying to hold back making grandious claims, to become too excited....but the procedure that you are describing is something that I have been trying to research the likelyhood of benefit( a little different mechanism, though) but my problem is that I am not able to convince the ID doc that my pain is of the intensity I describe. Although he doesn't prescribe my pain medications, he is constantly harping that infections aren't my problem, but narcotics are. I've never wished this pain on anyone before , except for him. Last week, despite getting the IvIG two weeks ago, it just felt like it never kicked in and within the week I was " down and out " with an infection. Raging throat, raging diarrhea, fever, sinus pain, yuky congestion. I was lost to the world for four days, meaning unable to feed myself, or take care of even minimal personal care. I tried to explain to the doctor how on the start of the second day the pain started in the hip, radiating all the way to the foot on one leg of such intensity that I was unable to sleep. I reminded him that when I got the MRSA, it started with back pain. I went to the ER and they dx slipped disc, but I knew better because there had been no opportunity for injury, and it came on gradually, like an infection was settling in for the long haul. During the MRSA, the back pain was so severe, I was literally in traction with heavy narcotics not even touching the pain. I could get no one to listen to me. They mri'd about every part of my back, hip, adreanls, etc. I even had one doctor say my hip was out of joint and then actually yanked my leg right there on the spot, nearly making me pass out. Guess what.....get rid of the MRSA , the pain went away. The doctors just scoff. I have long tried to get the doctors to understand that maybe we could use this " gift " as a way to get better treatment. The frustration that I have been through still leads to the same place, they are not going to do anything they don't want to Although I had not considered the gastro problems specifically, but of course, it makes sense. I guess I'm just so used to operating on half a colon that I forget sometimes. It has been nagging at me that would there be any benefit using some type of stimulation, maybe tens or even Rife in tandum with the antibiotics. It was obvious to me that this organism was getting stuck in certtain locations of my body. While it could migrate overnight, generally it would be in one spot from two to six months. Although it has been in the knees almost from day one. There have been areas that I previously was greatly pained, that no longer get affected. I was hoping that if it traversed the whole body, it might give up and leave. Anyway, I have often wondered if utilizing the tens machine on the site of injection might help distribute a IM serum better? Have recently been looking at Rife, not as a substitute for antibiotics, but can it make them distribute throuought our blood system better? I've been the gastro route and just received no support that it would be beneficial. They wouldn't even admit that I was malabsorbing just because I had not lost any weight. Sometimes their criteria is from the stone ages. Sue, I truly send apologies for not getting back to your email. It has been a rough time again. Of course, you may use any information that I've given as personal experience. At the time I was considering a national doctor, I frequented another forum that also was blessed with some of the members now here. From all information gleened, Shoemaker was doing the triple antibiotic protocol. Unfortunately he quit doing that protocol within the first month I was on it. He insisted that this staph phage lysate was the cure. I think that Dr. Shoemaker had a lot more to offer before he became famous in his own mind. (I don't mean that rudely) But he was the first doctor to explain to me that doctor's know they are only going to be able to help a certain percentage of their patients, so the doctor must decide which patients will benefit from his experience and talents and which ones he should cut loose. I know a more seasoned patient wouldn't be so naive about a doctor's aloof nature, being a beast of the business I guess. I just don't know how to describe the chills I got that day, as Dr. Shoemaker was telling about patients he had saved and then those he could not. I got this eary feeling. It was not that death did not faze him one way or another, it was that he justified those he didn't help with what I call the " substitution for sainthood " It goes like this. Lets' say a patient dies and although the doctor didn't perform any miracles, he didn't try all that hard either. But since he didn' tdo anything technically wrong, he was not burdened that much, but just to make sure his " application for sainthood " was still in effect, he would help a patient with ingrown toenails and that substitution would erase any life/death judgements he may have made in error. After the staph phage lysate infected my mouth and I lost virgin teeth as it just killed the root, I called Dr. Shoemaker because I felt that he should know this. That was when he informed me that it was a real unstable product anyway. Something he had not mentioned before. But I still accepted the risk of any treatments I take, thus I did not hold him responsible for his elementary prescribing practice. Unmarked bottle, no instructions. I was willing to continue to utilize his experience and talents as he called them, but no, he simply mailed me my records, saying that I should contact someone who lived closer to me. Which might have made sense except he was referring me to a doctor in Kansas. I asked, no I begged to be referred to Dr. Havey, he flatly refused. That was when I found out that the LLMD kicked him out. He wouldn't even run lyme tests on me, he was determined that he knew what I had before even seeing me. Dr. shoemaker was not single minded in this for money. By his own admission, he has contributed greatly to the community. Still, for some doctors, fame is more intoxicating than money. I thought it was so funny, I heard from another doctor that the FDA moved in shortly after my case, something about prescribing vetanarian products without FDA approval. I thought it was so, so funny. Some prospective patients contacted me through my presence on the forums and were inquiring as to Dr. Sh protocol. They said that Dr. Shoe was telling them that the FDA was just helping him straighten out his paperwork for filing an application. Anyway, I didn't mean to get off on that .....I will have to come back and write more as to why I believe that Sues experience could be the answer. There is just too much pain to write all at once and if I don't at least post this, I will fall asleep and forget. I will write myself a note to come back. Peg > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you might be > > interested in my findings today. > > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in NY mostly > > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in NY, he > > also sees a lot of Lyme. > > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you with > > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that he has > > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - a way > > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often missed > > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually > measure, > > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O-Ring testing > > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I take my > > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct the > > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels again to be > > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > > > Well, it was really interesting today. > > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I had very > > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder and repro > > organs. > > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various bacteria > that > > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams (mg) of Bb > > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and reproductive > > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most of his > > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in me. > > > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the acupoint > > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we tested again > > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. In other > > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my hands, > then > > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and would > need > > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would do that > > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have visible cysts > > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems everywhere as > I > > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected several > times. > > > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the levels > > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms everywhere. > 10ng!!! > > I find that just fascinating. > > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on amoxicillian X4 a > > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose to " direct " > > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I test as > > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or sometimes > > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being responsive to. > > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. Always > X > > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of cilantro > > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy and > > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand as > > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had any idea > > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept complaining of > > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all the > time. > > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. Dr Omura > > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When I tested > > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I did and > > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally gone, > > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > > Cheers, > > *S* > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Lanelle You should do the salt C or recoup (blasi salts) in the back ground- regardless what else your doing?Alot of infections are staging from your skeleton so you feelfine one minute shaky the next. (osteomyelitis) Lanelle the fact that your infection is so dibilitating/huge you truly will keep it half the size if you get the salts right.After this your further attempts at therapy will be easier and more rewarding.I would do a tens or frequency generator to get the infections that are hard to access- not rellying on the tens or frequency genertor to kill them though(there is NO PROOF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN)but expecting a multiple antibiotic therapy to do some tricks. I would consider shoemakers antibiotic therapy as useless and upsetting to the bacteria.I found the bacteria would grow in the presence of the drugs within a week and if the bacteria could get stimulated you'd end up with a bigger infection than you started out with. > > > Greetings, > This note is late as I'm sure the topic has flown the page by now, > but it has haunted my mind every since reading it. I say that in a > good sense. The article was posted by Sue giving her insights to a > treatment that she is receiving to optimize the availability of > antibiotics to " blocked " areas. I want to mention here that reading > your words Sue, literally opened up a flood gate of emotions, for I > had not known that anyone else suffered with pain to the degree that > I do. I'm trying to hold back making grandious claims, to become too > excited....but the procedure that you are describing is something > that I have been trying to research the likelyhood of benefit( a > little different mechanism, though) but my problem is that I am not > able to convince the ID doc that my pain is of the intensity I > describe. Although he doesn't prescribe my pain medications, he is > constantly harping that infections aren't my problem, but narcotics > are. I've never wished this pain on anyone before , except for him. > Last week, despite getting the IvIG two weeks ago, it just felt like > it never kicked in and within the week I was " down and out " with an > infection. Raging throat, raging diarrhea, fever, sinus pain, yuky > congestion. I was lost to the world for four days, meaning unable to > feed myself, or take care of even minimal personal care. I tried to > explain to the doctor how on the start of the second day the pain > started in the hip, radiating all the way to the foot on one leg of > such intensity that I was unable to sleep. I reminded him that when I > got the MRSA, it started with back pain. I went to the ER and they dx > slipped disc, but I knew better because there had been no opportunity > for injury, and it came on gradually, like an infection was settling > in for the long haul. During the MRSA, the back pain was so severe, I > was literally in traction with heavy narcotics not even touching the > pain. I could get no one to listen to me. They mri'd about every part > of my back, hip, adreanls, etc. I even had one doctor say my hip was > out of joint and then actually yanked my leg right there on the spot, > nearly making me pass out. Guess what.....get rid of the MRSA , the > pain went away. The doctors just scoff. > > I have long tried to get the doctors to understand that maybe we > could use this " gift " as a way to get better treatment. The > frustration that I have been through still leads to the same place, > they are not going to do anything they don't want to > Although I had not considered the gastro problems specifically, but > of course, it makes sense. I guess I'm just so used to operating on > half a colon that I forget sometimes. > > It has been nagging at me that would there be any benefit using some > type of stimulation, maybe tens or even Rife in tandum with the > antibiotics. It was obvious to me that this organism was getting > stuck in certtain locations of my body. While it could migrate > overnight, generally it would be in one spot from two to six months. > Although it has been in the knees almost from day one. There have > been areas that I previously was greatly pained, that no longer get > affected. I was hoping that if it traversed the whole body, it might > give up and leave. Anyway, I have often wondered if utilizing the > tens machine on the site of injection might help distribute a IM > serum better? Have recently been looking at Rife, not as a substitute > for antibiotics, but can it make them distribute throuought our blood > system better? I've been the gastro route and just received no > support that it would be beneficial. They wouldn't even admit that I > was malabsorbing just because I had not lost any weight. Sometimes > their criteria is from the stone ages. > > Sue, I truly send apologies for not getting back to your email. It > has been a rough time again. Of course, you may use any information > that I've given as personal experience. At the time I was considering > a national doctor, I frequented another forum that also was blessed > with some of the members now here. From all information gleened, > Shoemaker was doing the triple antibiotic protocol. Unfortunately he > quit doing that protocol within the first month I was on it. He > insisted that this staph phage lysate was the cure. > I think that Dr. Shoemaker had a lot more to offer before he became > famous in his own mind. (I don't mean that rudely) But he was the > first doctor to explain to me that doctor's know they are only going > to be able to help a certain percentage of their patients, so the > doctor must decide which patients will benefit from his experience > and talents and which ones he should cut loose. I know a more > seasoned patient wouldn't be so naive about a doctor's aloof nature, > being a beast of the business I guess. I just don't know how to > describe the chills I got that day, as Dr. Shoemaker was telling > about patients he had saved and then those he could not. I got this > eary feeling. It was not that death did not faze him one way or > another, it was that he justified those he didn't help with what I > call the " substitution for sainthood " It goes like this. Lets' say a > patient dies and although the doctor didn't perform any miracles, he > didn't try all that hard either. But since he didn' tdo anything > technically wrong, he was not burdened that much, but just to make > sure his " application for sainthood " was still in effect, he would > help a patient with ingrown toenails and that substitution would > erase any life/death judgements he may have made in error. > After the staph phage lysate infected my mouth and I lost virgin > teeth as it just killed the root, I called Dr. Shoemaker because I > felt that he should know this. That was when he informed me that it > was a real unstable product anyway. Something he had not mentioned > before. But I still accepted the risk of any treatments I take, thus > I did not hold him responsible for his elementary prescribing > practice. Unmarked bottle, no instructions. I was willing to continue > to utilize his experience and talents as he called them, but no, he > simply mailed me my records, saying that I should contact someone who > lived closer to me. Which might have made sense except he was > referring me to a doctor in Kansas. I asked, no I begged to be > referred to Dr. Havey, he flatly refused. That was when I found out > that the LLMD kicked him out. He wouldn't even run lyme tests on me, > he was determined that he knew what I had before even seeing me. Dr. > shoemaker was not single minded in this for money. By his own > admission, he has contributed greatly to the community. Still, for > some doctors, fame is more intoxicating than money. I thought it was > so funny, I heard from another doctor that the FDA moved in shortly > after my case, something about prescribing vetanarian products > without FDA approval. I thought it was so, so funny. Some prospective > patients contacted me through my presence on the forums and were > inquiring as to Dr. Sh protocol. They said that Dr. Shoe was telling > them that the FDA was just helping him straighten out his paperwork > for filing an application. > > Anyway, I didn't mean to get off on that .....I will have to come > back and write more as to why I believe that Sues experience could be > the answer. There is just too much pain to write all at once and if I > don't at least post this, I will fall asleep and forget. I will write > myself a note to come back. > Peg > > > > > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you might > be > > > interested in my findings today. > > > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in NY > mostly > > > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in NY, he > > > also sees a lot of Lyme. > > > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you with > > > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that he > has > > > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - a > way > > > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often missed > > > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > > > > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually > > measure, > > > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O-Ring testing > > > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I take > my > > > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct the > > > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels again to > be > > > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > > > > > Well, it was really interesting today. > > > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I had > very > > > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder and > repro > > > organs. > > > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various bacteria > > that > > > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams (mg) of > Bb > > > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and reproductive > > > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most of his > > > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in me. > > > > > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the acupoint > > > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we tested > again > > > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. In > other > > > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my hands, > > then > > > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and would > > need > > > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would do that > > > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have visible > cysts > > > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems everywhere > as > > I > > > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected several > > times. > > > > > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the > levels > > > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms everywhere. > > 10ng!!! > > > I find that just fascinating. > > > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on amoxicillian X4 a > > > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose to " direct " > > > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > > > > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I test as > > > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or sometimes > > > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being responsive > to. > > > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. > Always > > X > > > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of > cilantro > > > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > > > > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy and > > > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand as > > > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > > > > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had any > idea > > > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept complaining of > > > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all the > > time. > > > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. Dr > Omura > > > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When I > tested > > > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I did and > > > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > > > > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally gone, > > > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > > > > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > > > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > > > Cheers, > > > *S* > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Yes Peg, the pain is unbearable at times. I finally found a pain Dr that get's it but I really hate the medications and the fact that I need them. In my case, I have visible and palpable cysts in every joint. I didn't realize they were there until I lost a bunch of weight once and could feel and see them. Now I an heavy again, but can still feel and see them. They are NOT like rheumatoid cysts at all, just small hard lumps on the side of my fingers and ankles. The ankle ones are rather large and sharp and pointy. They throb when I take antibiotics. I am having them biopsy'd in a couple weeks. Can anyone suggest a lab kit or another way to have these samples analyzed other than the norm? My Dr thinks the hand surgeon would be open to filling a tube from someone other than his normal lab. We have a call in to OgeneX to see if they will analyze but they haven't gotten back to us yet. What do you think we might find? Tony? Cheers and thanks. Peg, do you want a diagram of the palm " uptake points " ? *S* > > > Greetings, > This note is late as I'm sure the topic has flown the page by now, > but it has haunted my mind every since reading it. I say that in a > good sense. The article was posted by Sue giving her insights to a > treatment that she is receiving to optimize the availability of > antibiotics to " blocked " areas. I want to mention here that reading > your words Sue, literally opened up a flood gate of emotions, for I > had not known that anyone else suffered with pain to the degree that > I do. I'm trying to hold back making grandious claims, to become too > excited....but the procedure that you are describing is something > that I have been trying to research the likelyhood of benefit( a > little different mechanism, though) but my problem is that I am not > able to convince the ID doc that my pain is of the intensity I > describe. Although he doesn't prescribe my pain medications, he is > constantly harping that infections aren't my problem, but narcotics > are. I've never wished this pain on anyone before , except for him. > Last week, despite getting the IvIG two weeks ago, it just felt like > it never kicked in and within the week I was " down and out " with an > infection. Raging throat, raging diarrhea, fever, sinus pain, yuky > congestion. I was lost to the world for four days, meaning unable to > feed myself, or take care of even minimal personal care. I tried to > explain to the doctor how on the start of the second day the pain > started in the hip, radiating all the way to the foot on one leg of > such intensity that I was unable to sleep. I reminded him that when I > got the MRSA, it started with back pain. I went to the ER and they dx > slipped disc, but I knew better because there had been no opportunity > for injury, and it came on gradually, like an infection was settling > in for the long haul. During the MRSA, the back pain was so severe, I > was literally in traction with heavy narcotics not even touching the > pain. I could get no one to listen to me. They mri'd about every part > of my back, hip, adreanls, etc. I even had one doctor say my hip was > out of joint and then actually yanked my leg right there on the spot, > nearly making me pass out. Guess what.....get rid of the MRSA , the > pain went away. The doctors just scoff. > > I have long tried to get the doctors to understand that maybe we > could use this " gift " as a way to get better treatment. The > frustration that I have been through still leads to the same place, > they are not going to do anything they don't want to > Although I had not considered the gastro problems specifically, but > of course, it makes sense. I guess I'm just so used to operating on > half a colon that I forget sometimes. > > It has been nagging at me that would there be any benefit using some > type of stimulation, maybe tens or even Rife in tandum with the > antibiotics. It was obvious to me that this organism was getting > stuck in certtain locations of my body. While it could migrate > overnight, generally it would be in one spot from two to six months. > Although it has been in the knees almost from day one. There have > been areas that I previously was greatly pained, that no longer get > affected. I was hoping that if it traversed the whole body, it might > give up and leave. Anyway, I have often wondered if utilizing the > tens machine on the site of injection might help distribute a IM > serum better? Have recently been looking at Rife, not as a substitute > for antibiotics, but can it make them distribute throuought our blood > system better? I've been the gastro route and just received no > support that it would be beneficial. They wouldn't even admit that I > was malabsorbing just because I had not lost any weight. Sometimes > their criteria is from the stone ages. > > Sue, I truly send apologies for not getting back to your email. It > has been a rough time again. Of course, you may use any information > that I've given as personal experience. At the time I was considering > a national doctor, I frequented another forum that also was blessed > with some of the members now here. From all information gleened, > Shoemaker was doing the triple antibiotic protocol. Unfortunately he > quit doing that protocol within the first month I was on it. He > insisted that this staph phage lysate was the cure. > I think that Dr. Shoemaker had a lot more to offer before he became > famous in his own mind. (I don't mean that rudely) But he was the > first doctor to explain to me that doctor's know they are only going > to be able to help a certain percentage of their patients, so the > doctor must decide which patients will benefit from his experience > and talents and which ones he should cut loose. I know a more > seasoned patient wouldn't be so naive about a doctor's aloof nature, > being a beast of the business I guess. I just don't know how to > describe the chills I got that day, as Dr. Shoemaker was telling > about patients he had saved and then those he could not. I got this > eary feeling. It was not that death did not faze him one way or > another, it was that he justified those he didn't help with what I > call the " substitution for sainthood " It goes like this. Lets' say a > patient dies and although the doctor didn't perform any miracles, he > didn't try all that hard either. But since he didn' tdo anything > technically wrong, he was not burdened that much, but just to make > sure his " application for sainthood " was still in effect, he would > help a patient with ingrown toenails and that substitution would > erase any life/death judgements he may have made in error. > After the staph phage lysate infected my mouth and I lost virgin > teeth as it just killed the root, I called Dr. Shoemaker because I > felt that he should know this. That was when he informed me that it > was a real unstable product anyway. Something he had not mentioned > before. But I still accepted the risk of any treatments I take, thus > I did not hold him responsible for his elementary prescribing > practice. Unmarked bottle, no instructions. I was willing to continue > to utilize his experience and talents as he called them, but no, he > simply mailed me my records, saying that I should contact someone who > lived closer to me. Which might have made sense except he was > referring me to a doctor in Kansas. I asked, no I begged to be > referred to Dr. Havey, he flatly refused. That was when I found out > that the LLMD kicked him out. He wouldn't even run lyme tests on me, > he was determined that he knew what I had before even seeing me. Dr. > shoemaker was not single minded in this for money. By his own > admission, he has contributed greatly to the community. Still, for > some doctors, fame is more intoxicating than money. I thought it was > so funny, I heard from another doctor that the FDA moved in shortly > after my case, something about prescribing vetanarian products > without FDA approval. I thought it was so, so funny. Some prospective > patients contacted me through my presence on the forums and were > inquiring as to Dr. Sh protocol. They said that Dr. Shoe was telling > them that the FDA was just helping him straighten out his paperwork > for filing an application. > > Anyway, I didn't mean to get off on that .....I will have to come > back and write more as to why I believe that Sues experience could be > the answer. There is just too much pain to write all at once and if I > don't at least post this, I will fall asleep and forget. I will write > myself a note to come back. > Peg > > > > > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you might > be > > > interested in my findings today. > > > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in NY > mostly > > > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in NY, he > > > also sees a lot of Lyme. > > > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you with > > > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that he > has > > > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - a > way > > > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often missed > > > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > > > > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually > > measure, > > > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O-Ring testing > > > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I take > my > > > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct the > > > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels again to > be > > > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > > > > > Well, it was really interesting today. > > > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I had > very > > > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder and > repro > > > organs. > > > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various bacteria > > that > > > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams (mg) of > Bb > > > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and reproductive > > > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most of his > > > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in me. > > > > > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the acupoint > > > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we tested > again > > > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. In > other > > > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my hands, > > then > > > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and would > > need > > > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would do that > > > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have visible > cysts > > > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems everywhere > as > > I > > > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected several > > times. > > > > > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the > levels > > > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms everywhere. > > 10ng!!! > > > I find that just fascinating. > > > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on amoxicillian X4 a > > > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose to " direct " > > > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > > > > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I test as > > > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or sometimes > > > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being responsive > to. > > > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. > Always > > X > > > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of > cilantro > > > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > > > > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy and > > > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand as > > > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > > > > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had any > idea > > > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept complaining of > > > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all the > > time. > > > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. Dr > Omura > > > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When I > tested > > > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I did and > > > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > > > > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally gone, > > > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > > > > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > > > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > > > Cheers, > > > *S* > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 I'm really sorry you're in that much pain. Have you heard of the drug Pennsaid? I found out about it for a friend. It's available by Rx from Canada (surely could order over the intrenet). Its NSAID plus DMSO so you can apply locally and it'll penetrate, and you don't have to worry about NSAID side effects. > > > > > > Greetings, > > This note is late as I'm sure the topic has flown the page by now, > > but it has haunted my mind every since reading it. I say that in a > > good sense. The article was posted by Sue giving her insights to a > > treatment that she is receiving to optimize the availability of > > antibiotics to " blocked " areas. I want to mention here that reading > > your words Sue, literally opened up a flood gate of emotions, for I > > had not known that anyone else suffered with pain to the degree > that > > I do. I'm trying to hold back making grandious claims, to become > too > > excited....but the procedure that you are describing is something > > that I have been trying to research the likelyhood of benefit( a > > little different mechanism, though) but my problem is that I am > not > > able to convince the ID doc that my pain is of the intensity I > > describe. Although he doesn't prescribe my pain medications, he is > > constantly harping that infections aren't my problem, but narcotics > > are. I've never wished this pain on anyone before , except for him. > > Last week, despite getting the IvIG two weeks ago, it just felt > like > > it never kicked in and within the week I was " down and out " with an > > infection. Raging throat, raging diarrhea, fever, sinus pain, yuky > > congestion. I was lost to the world for four days, meaning unable > to > > feed myself, or take care of even minimal personal care. I tried to > > explain to the doctor how on the start of the second day the pain > > started in the hip, radiating all the way to the foot on one leg of > > such intensity that I was unable to sleep. I reminded him that when > I > > got the MRSA, it started with back pain. I went to the ER and they > dx > > slipped disc, but I knew better because there had been no > opportunity > > for injury, and it came on gradually, like an infection was > settling > > in for the long haul. During the MRSA, the back pain was so severe, > I > > was literally in traction with heavy narcotics not even touching > the > > pain. I could get no one to listen to me. They mri'd about every > part > > of my back, hip, adreanls, etc. I even had one doctor say my hip > was > > out of joint and then actually yanked my leg right there on the > spot, > > nearly making me pass out. Guess what.....get rid of the MRSA , the > > pain went away. The doctors just scoff. > > > > I have long tried to get the doctors to understand that maybe we > > could use this " gift " as a way to get better treatment. The > > frustration that I have been through still leads to the same place, > > they are not going to do anything they don't want to > > Although I had not considered the gastro problems specifically, > but > > of course, it makes sense. I guess I'm just so used to operating on > > half a colon that I forget sometimes. > > > > It has been nagging at me that would there be any benefit using > some > > type of stimulation, maybe tens or even Rife in tandum with the > > antibiotics. It was obvious to me that this organism was getting > > stuck in certtain locations of my body. While it could migrate > > overnight, generally it would be in one spot from two to six > months. > > Although it has been in the knees almost from day one. There have > > been areas that I previously was greatly pained, that no longer get > > affected. I was hoping that if it traversed the whole body, it > might > > give up and leave. Anyway, I have often wondered if utilizing the > > tens machine on the site of injection might help distribute a IM > > serum better? Have recently been looking at Rife, not as a > substitute > > for antibiotics, but can it make them distribute throuought our > blood > > system better? I've been the gastro route and just received no > > support that it would be beneficial. They wouldn't even admit that > I > > was malabsorbing just because I had not lost any weight. Sometimes > > their criteria is from the stone ages. > > > > Sue, I truly send apologies for not getting back to your email. It > > has been a rough time again. Of course, you may use any information > > that I've given as personal experience. At the time I was > considering > > a national doctor, I frequented another forum that also was blessed > > with some of the members now here. From all information gleened, > > Shoemaker was doing the triple antibiotic protocol. Unfortunately > he > > quit doing that protocol within the first month I was on it. He > > insisted that this staph phage lysate was the cure. > > I think that Dr. Shoemaker had a lot more to offer before he became > > famous in his own mind. (I don't mean that rudely) But he was the > > first doctor to explain to me that doctor's know they are only > going > > to be able to help a certain percentage of their patients, so the > > doctor must decide which patients will benefit from his experience > > and talents and which ones he should cut loose. I know a more > > seasoned patient wouldn't be so naive about a doctor's aloof > nature, > > being a beast of the business I guess. I just don't know how to > > describe the chills I got that day, as Dr. Shoemaker was telling > > about patients he had saved and then those he could not. I got this > > eary feeling. It was not that death did not faze him one way or > > another, it was that he justified those he didn't help with what I > > call the " substitution for sainthood " It goes like this. Lets' say > a > > patient dies and although the doctor didn't perform any miracles, > he > > didn't try all that hard either. But since he didn' tdo anything > > technically wrong, he was not burdened that much, but just to make > > sure his " application for sainthood " was still in effect, he would > > help a patient with ingrown toenails and that substitution would > > erase any life/death judgements he may have made in error. > > After the staph phage lysate infected my mouth and I lost virgin > > teeth as it just killed the root, I called Dr. Shoemaker because I > > felt that he should know this. That was when he informed me that it > > was a real unstable product anyway. Something he had not mentioned > > before. But I still accepted the risk of any treatments I take, > thus > > I did not hold him responsible for his elementary prescribing > > practice. Unmarked bottle, no instructions. I was willing to > continue > > to utilize his experience and talents as he called them, but no, he > > simply mailed me my records, saying that I should contact someone > who > > lived closer to me. Which might have made sense except he was > > referring me to a doctor in Kansas. I asked, no I begged to be > > referred to Dr. Havey, he flatly refused. That was when I found out > > that the LLMD kicked him out. He wouldn't even run lyme tests on > me, > > he was determined that he knew what I had before even seeing me. > Dr. > > shoemaker was not single minded in this for money. By his own > > admission, he has contributed greatly to the community. Still, for > > some doctors, fame is more intoxicating than money. I thought it > was > > so funny, I heard from another doctor that the FDA moved in shortly > > after my case, something about prescribing vetanarian products > > without FDA approval. I thought it was so, so funny. Some > prospective > > patients contacted me through my presence on the forums and were > > inquiring as to Dr. Sh protocol. They said that Dr. Shoe was > telling > > them that the FDA was just helping him straighten out his paperwork > > for filing an application. > > > > Anyway, I didn't mean to get off on that .....I will have to come > > back and write more as to why I believe that Sues experience could > be > > the answer. There is just too much pain to write all at once and if > I > > don't at least post this, I will fall asleep and forget. I will > write > > myself a note to come back. > > Peg > > > > > > > > > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you might > > be > > > > interested in my findings today. > > > > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in NY > > mostly > > > > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in NY, > he > > > > also sees a lot of Lyme. > > > > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you with > > > > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that he > > has > > > > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - a > > way > > > > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often > missed > > > > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > > > > > > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually > > > measure, > > > > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O-Ring > testing > > > > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I take > > my > > > > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct the > > > > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels again to > > be > > > > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > > > > > > > Well, it was really interesting today. > > > > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I had > > very > > > > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder and > > repro > > > > organs. > > > > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various bacteria > > > that > > > > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams (mg) of > > Bb > > > > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and reproductive > > > > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most of > his > > > > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in me. > > > > > > > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the acupoint > > > > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we tested > > again > > > > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. In > > other > > > > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my hands, > > > then > > > > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and would > > > need > > > > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would do > that > > > > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have visible > > cysts > > > > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems everywhere > > as > > > I > > > > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected several > > > times. > > > > > > > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the > > levels > > > > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms everywhere. > > > 10ng!!! > > > > I find that just fascinating. > > > > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on amoxicillian X4 > a > > > > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose > to " direct " > > > > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > > > > > > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I test > as > > > > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or > sometimes > > > > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being responsive > > to. > > > > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. > > Always > > > X > > > > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of > > cilantro > > > > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > > > > > > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy and > > > > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand as > > > > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > > > > > > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had any > > idea > > > > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept complaining of > > > > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all the > > > time. > > > > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. Dr > > Omura > > > > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When I > > tested > > > > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I did > and > > > > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > > > > > > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally gone, > > > > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > > > > > > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > > > > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > > > > Cheers, > > > > *S* > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Sue I think staph areus or some coagulase positive species is required to make something clump- then a few years down the track you can create a cyst.So my gut tells me your test will fit nicely alongside my elbow arthritis bacteria. Basically bacteria creating clumping of blood are called coagulase positive- they coagulate blood making clots which possably lodge in or near joints and go on to grow up to be good little cysts. The endometreosis angle looks like it would be interesting sue. Your blood would be a mess? Do you or did you have a strong heartbeat trying to push sludge around your body at any point. Sorry for all the strong stuff Sue- but you can't get me kicked off this forum as easily as you managed to do on the cfsexperimental site.(just joking) tony > > > > > > Greetings, > > This note is late as I'm sure the topic has flown the page by now, > > but it has haunted my mind every since reading it. I say that in a > > good sense. The article was posted by Sue giving her insights to a > > treatment that she is receiving to optimize the availability of > > antibiotics to " blocked " areas. I want to mention here that reading > > your words Sue, literally opened up a flood gate of emotions, for I > > had not known that anyone else suffered with pain to the degree > that > > I do. I'm trying to hold back making grandious claims, to become > too > > excited....but the procedure that you are describing is something > > that I have been trying to research the likelyhood of benefit( a > > little different mechanism, though) but my problem is that I am > not > > able to convince the ID doc that my pain is of the intensity I > > describe. Although he doesn't prescribe my pain medications, he is > > constantly harping that infections aren't my problem, but narcotics > > are. I've never wished this pain on anyone before , except for him. > > Last week, despite getting the IvIG two weeks ago, it just felt > like > > it never kicked in and within the week I was " down and out " with an > > infection. Raging throat, raging diarrhea, fever, sinus pain, yuky > > congestion. I was lost to the world for four days, meaning unable > to > > feed myself, or take care of even minimal personal care. I tried to > > explain to the doctor how on the start of the second day the pain > > started in the hip, radiating all the way to the foot on one leg of > > such intensity that I was unable to sleep. I reminded him that when > I > > got the MRSA, it started with back pain. I went to the ER and they > dx > > slipped disc, but I knew better because there had been no > opportunity > > for injury, and it came on gradually, like an infection was > settling > > in for the long haul. During the MRSA, the back pain was so severe, > I > > was literally in traction with heavy narcotics not even touching > the > > pain. I could get no one to listen to me. They mri'd about every > part > > of my back, hip, adreanls, etc. I even had one doctor say my hip > was > > out of joint and then actually yanked my leg right there on the > spot, > > nearly making me pass out. Guess what.....get rid of the MRSA , the > > pain went away. The doctors just scoff. > > > > I have long tried to get the doctors to understand that maybe we > > could use this " gift " as a way to get better treatment. The > > frustration that I have been through still leads to the same place, > > they are not going to do anything they don't want to > > Although I had not considered the gastro problems specifically, > but > > of course, it makes sense. I guess I'm just so used to operating on > > half a colon that I forget sometimes. > > > > It has been nagging at me that would there be any benefit using > some > > type of stimulation, maybe tens or even Rife in tandum with the > > antibiotics. It was obvious to me that this organism was getting > > stuck in certtain locations of my body. While it could migrate > > overnight, generally it would be in one spot from two to six > months. > > Although it has been in the knees almost from day one. There have > > been areas that I previously was greatly pained, that no longer get > > affected. I was hoping that if it traversed the whole body, it > might > > give up and leave. Anyway, I have often wondered if utilizing the > > tens machine on the site of injection might help distribute a IM > > serum better? Have recently been looking at Rife, not as a > substitute > > for antibiotics, but can it make them distribute throuought our > blood > > system better? I've been the gastro route and just received no > > support that it would be beneficial. They wouldn't even admit that > I > > was malabsorbing just because I had not lost any weight. Sometimes > > their criteria is from the stone ages. > > > > Sue, I truly send apologies for not getting back to your email. It > > has been a rough time again. Of course, you may use any information > > that I've given as personal experience. At the time I was > considering > > a national doctor, I frequented another forum that also was blessed > > with some of the members now here. From all information gleened, > > Shoemaker was doing the triple antibiotic protocol. Unfortunately > he > > quit doing that protocol within the first month I was on it. He > > insisted that this staph phage lysate was the cure. > > I think that Dr. Shoemaker had a lot more to offer before he became > > famous in his own mind. (I don't mean that rudely) But he was the > > first doctor to explain to me that doctor's know they are only > going > > to be able to help a certain percentage of their patients, so the > > doctor must decide which patients will benefit from his experience > > and talents and which ones he should cut loose. I know a more > > seasoned patient wouldn't be so naive about a doctor's aloof > nature, > > being a beast of the business I guess. I just don't know how to > > describe the chills I got that day, as Dr. Shoemaker was telling > > about patients he had saved and then those he could not. I got this > > eary feeling. It was not that death did not faze him one way or > > another, it was that he justified those he didn't help with what I > > call the " substitution for sainthood " It goes like this. Lets' say > a > > patient dies and although the doctor didn't perform any miracles, > he > > didn't try all that hard either. But since he didn' tdo anything > > technically wrong, he was not burdened that much, but just to make > > sure his " application for sainthood " was still in effect, he would > > help a patient with ingrown toenails and that substitution would > > erase any life/death judgements he may have made in error. > > After the staph phage lysate infected my mouth and I lost virgin > > teeth as it just killed the root, I called Dr. Shoemaker because I > > felt that he should know this. That was when he informed me that it > > was a real unstable product anyway. Something he had not mentioned > > before. But I still accepted the risk of any treatments I take, > thus > > I did not hold him responsible for his elementary prescribing > > practice. Unmarked bottle, no instructions. I was willing to > continue > > to utilize his experience and talents as he called them, but no, he > > simply mailed me my records, saying that I should contact someone > who > > lived closer to me. Which might have made sense except he was > > referring me to a doctor in Kansas. I asked, no I begged to be > > referred to Dr. Havey, he flatly refused. That was when I found out > > that the LLMD kicked him out. He wouldn't even run lyme tests on > me, > > he was determined that he knew what I had before even seeing me. > Dr. > > shoemaker was not single minded in this for money. By his own > > admission, he has contributed greatly to the community. Still, for > > some doctors, fame is more intoxicating than money. I thought it > was > > so funny, I heard from another doctor that the FDA moved in shortly > > after my case, something about prescribing vetanarian products > > without FDA approval. I thought it was so, so funny. Some > prospective > > patients contacted me through my presence on the forums and were > > inquiring as to Dr. Sh protocol. They said that Dr. Shoe was > telling > > them that the FDA was just helping him straighten out his paperwork > > for filing an application. > > > > Anyway, I didn't mean to get off on that .....I will have to come > > back and write more as to why I believe that Sues experience could > be > > the answer. There is just too much pain to write all at once and if > I > > don't at least post this, I will fall asleep and forget. I will > write > > myself a note to come back. > > Peg > > > > > > > > > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you might > > be > > > > interested in my findings today. > > > > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in NY > > mostly > > > > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in NY, > he > > > > also sees a lot of Lyme. > > > > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you with > > > > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that he > > has > > > > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - a > > way > > > > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often > missed > > > > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > > > > > > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually > > > measure, > > > > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O-Ring > testing > > > > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I take > > my > > > > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct the > > > > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels again to > > be > > > > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > > > > > > > Well, it was really interesting today. > > > > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I had > > very > > > > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder and > > repro > > > > organs. > > > > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various bacteria > > > that > > > > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams (mg) of > > Bb > > > > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and reproductive > > > > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most of > his > > > > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in me. > > > > > > > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the acupoint > > > > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we tested > > again > > > > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. In > > other > > > > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my hands, > > > then > > > > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and would > > > need > > > > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would do > that > > > > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have visible > > cysts > > > > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems everywhere > > as > > > I > > > > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected several > > > times. > > > > > > > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the > > levels > > > > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms everywhere. > > > 10ng!!! > > > > I find that just fascinating. > > > > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on amoxicillian X4 > a > > > > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose > to " direct " > > > > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > > > > > > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I test > as > > > > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or > sometimes > > > > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being responsive > > to. > > > > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. > > Always > > > X > > > > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of > > cilantro > > > > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > > > > > > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy and > > > > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand as > > > > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > > > > > > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had any > > idea > > > > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept complaining of > > > > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all the > > > time. > > > > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. Dr > > Omura > > > > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When I > > tested > > > > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I did > and > > > > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > > > > > > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally gone, > > > > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > > > > > > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > > > > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > > > > Cheers, > > > > *S* > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Hey Tony. I am most curious to see what comes out of the biopsy. But as long as I have to go through the proceedure, I want to make sure I get it to the labs I need to get it to. I hope Igenex is able to take a look. I wouldn't be surprised either, if we find all your favorite pals in there. Have you heard about The Calcium Bomb http://www.calcify.com/ Dunno about blood - tests all seem ok, but my psychic friend has been telling me since 1980 that my blood is bad. Cheers, *S* > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > This note is late as I'm sure the topic has flown the page by > now, > > > but it has haunted my mind every since reading it. I say that in > a > > > good sense. The article was posted by Sue giving her insights to > a > > > treatment that she is receiving to optimize the availability of > > > antibiotics to " blocked " areas. I want to mention here that > reading > > > your words Sue, literally opened up a flood gate of emotions, > for I > > > had not known that anyone else suffered with pain to the degree > > that > > > I do. I'm trying to hold back making grandious claims, to become > > too > > > excited....but the procedure that you are describing is > something > > > that I have been trying to research the likelyhood of benefit( a > > > little different mechanism, though) but my problem is that I am > > not > > > able to convince the ID doc that my pain is of the intensity I > > > describe. Although he doesn't prescribe my pain medications, he > is > > > constantly harping that infections aren't my problem, but > narcotics > > > are. I've never wished this pain on anyone before , except for > him. > > > Last week, despite getting the IvIG two weeks ago, it just felt > > like > > > it never kicked in and within the week I was " down and out " with > an > > > infection. Raging throat, raging diarrhea, fever, sinus pain, > yuky > > > congestion. I was lost to the world for four days, meaning > unable > > to > > > feed myself, or take care of even minimal personal care. I tried > to > > > explain to the doctor how on the start of the second day the > pain > > > started in the hip, radiating all the way to the foot on one leg > of > > > such intensity that I was unable to sleep. I reminded him that > when > > I > > > got the MRSA, it started with back pain. I went to the ER and > they > > dx > > > slipped disc, but I knew better because there had been no > > opportunity > > > for injury, and it came on gradually, like an infection was > > settling > > > in for the long haul. During the MRSA, the back pain was so > severe, > > I > > > was literally in traction with heavy narcotics not even touching > > the > > > pain. I could get no one to listen to me. They mri'd about every > > part > > > of my back, hip, adreanls, etc. I even had one doctor say my hip > > was > > > out of joint and then actually yanked my leg right there on the > > spot, > > > nearly making me pass out. Guess what.....get rid of the MRSA , > the > > > pain went away. The doctors just scoff. > > > > > > I have long tried to get the doctors to understand that maybe we > > > could use this " gift " as a way to get better treatment. The > > > frustration that I have been through still leads to the same > place, > > > they are not going to do anything they don't want to > > > Although I had not considered the gastro problems specifically, > > but > > > of course, it makes sense. I guess I'm just so used to operating > on > > > half a colon that I forget sometimes. > > > > > > It has been nagging at me that would there be any benefit using > > some > > > type of stimulation, maybe tens or even Rife in tandum with the > > > antibiotics. It was obvious to me that this organism was getting > > > stuck in certtain locations of my body. While it could migrate > > > overnight, generally it would be in one spot from two to six > > months. > > > Although it has been in the knees almost from day one. There > have > > > been areas that I previously was greatly pained, that no longer > get > > > affected. I was hoping that if it traversed the whole body, it > > might > > > give up and leave. Anyway, I have often wondered if utilizing > the > > > tens machine on the site of injection might help distribute a IM > > > serum better? Have recently been looking at Rife, not as a > > substitute > > > for antibiotics, but can it make them distribute throuought our > > blood > > > system better? I've been the gastro route and just received no > > > support that it would be beneficial. They wouldn't even admit > that > > I > > > was malabsorbing just because I had not lost any weight. > Sometimes > > > their criteria is from the stone ages. > > > > > > Sue, I truly send apologies for not getting back to your email. > It > > > has been a rough time again. Of course, you may use any > information > > > that I've given as personal experience. At the time I was > > considering > > > a national doctor, I frequented another forum that also was > blessed > > > with some of the members now here. From all information gleened, > > > Shoemaker was doing the triple antibiotic protocol. > Unfortunately > > he > > > quit doing that protocol within the first month I was on it. He > > > insisted that this staph phage lysate was the cure. > > > I think that Dr. Shoemaker had a lot more to offer before he > became > > > famous in his own mind. (I don't mean that rudely) But he was > the > > > first doctor to explain to me that doctor's know they are only > > going > > > to be able to help a certain percentage of their patients, so > the > > > doctor must decide which patients will benefit from his > experience > > > and talents and which ones he should cut loose. I know a more > > > seasoned patient wouldn't be so naive about a doctor's aloof > > nature, > > > being a beast of the business I guess. I just don't know how to > > > describe the chills I got that day, as Dr. Shoemaker was telling > > > about patients he had saved and then those he could not. I got > this > > > eary feeling. It was not that death did not faze him one way or > > > another, it was that he justified those he didn't help with what > I > > > call the " substitution for sainthood " It goes like this. Lets' > say > > a > > > patient dies and although the doctor didn't perform any > miracles, > > he > > > didn't try all that hard either. But since he didn' tdo anything > > > technically wrong, he was not burdened that much, but just to > make > > > sure his " application for sainthood " was still in effect, he > would > > > help a patient with ingrown toenails and that substitution would > > > erase any life/death judgements he may have made in error. > > > After the staph phage lysate infected my mouth and I lost virgin > > > teeth as it just killed the root, I called Dr. Shoemaker because > I > > > felt that he should know this. That was when he informed me that > it > > > was a real unstable product anyway. Something he had not > mentioned > > > before. But I still accepted the risk of any treatments I take, > > thus > > > I did not hold him responsible for his elementary prescribing > > > practice. Unmarked bottle, no instructions. I was willing to > > continue > > > to utilize his experience and talents as he called them, but no, > he > > > simply mailed me my records, saying that I should contact > someone > > who > > > lived closer to me. Which might have made sense except he was > > > referring me to a doctor in Kansas. I asked, no I begged to be > > > referred to Dr. Havey, he flatly refused. That was when I found > out > > > that the LLMD kicked him out. He wouldn't even run lyme tests > on > > me, > > > he was determined that he knew what I had before even seeing me. > > Dr. > > > shoemaker was not single minded in this for money. By his own > > > admission, he has contributed greatly to the community. Still, > for > > > some doctors, fame is more intoxicating than money. I thought it > > was > > > so funny, I heard from another doctor that the FDA moved in > shortly > > > after my case, something about prescribing vetanarian products > > > without FDA approval. I thought it was so, so funny. Some > > prospective > > > patients contacted me through my presence on the forums and were > > > inquiring as to Dr. Sh protocol. They said that Dr. Shoe was > > telling > > > them that the FDA was just helping him straighten out his > paperwork > > > for filing an application. > > > > > > Anyway, I didn't mean to get off on that .....I will have to > come > > > back and write more as to why I believe that Sues experience > could > > be > > > the answer. There is just too much pain to write all at once and > if > > I > > > don't at least post this, I will fall asleep and forget. I will > > write > > > myself a note to come back. > > > Peg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you > might > > > be > > > > > interested in my findings today. > > > > > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in NY > > > mostly > > > > > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in > NY, > > he > > > > > also sees a lot of Lyme. > > > > > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you > with > > > > > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that > he > > > has > > > > > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - > a > > > way > > > > > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often > > missed > > > > > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > > > > > > > > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually > > > > measure, > > > > > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O-Ring > > testing > > > > > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I > take > > > my > > > > > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct > the > > > > > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels again > to > > > be > > > > > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > > > > > > > > > Well, it was really interesting today. > > > > > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I > had > > > very > > > > > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder > and > > > repro > > > > > organs. > > > > > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various > bacteria > > > > that > > > > > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams (mg) > of > > > Bb > > > > > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and > reproductive > > > > > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most of > > his > > > > > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in me. > > > > > > > > > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the > acupoint > > > > > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we tested > > > again > > > > > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. > In > > > other > > > > > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my > hands, > > > > then > > > > > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and > would > > > > need > > > > > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would do > > that > > > > > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have visible > > > cysts > > > > > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems > everywhere > > > as > > > > I > > > > > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected > several > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the > > > levels > > > > > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms > everywhere. > > > > 10ng!!! > > > > > I find that just fascinating. > > > > > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on amoxicillian > X4 > > a > > > > > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose > > to " direct " > > > > > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > > > > > > > > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I > test > > as > > > > > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or > > sometimes > > > > > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being > responsive > > > to. > > > > > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. > > > Always > > > > X > > > > > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of > > > cilantro > > > > > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > > > > > > > > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy > and > > > > > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand > as > > > > > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > > > > > > > > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had > any > > > idea > > > > > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept complaining > of > > > > > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all > the > > > > time. > > > > > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. Dr > > > Omura > > > > > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When I > > > tested > > > > > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I > did > > and > > > > > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > > > > > > > > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally > gone, > > > > > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > > > > > > > > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > > > > > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > *S* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Sue I love that calcium bomb. I strongly feel the slime that goes down our throat daily is capable of hardening and becomes some sort of calcification.I absolutely understand that our muscles and tissues end up with all this crap- look at the brain's in dementure and parkinson's. Also the crud that builds on teeth(plague) doesn't spare the spine IMO.It's also the 'stiff' in the veins in cardiovascular disease.Just absolutely have a 100% belief system that chronic inflammation hardens into calcification and you no longer suffer the same inflammation in that region.Beats the heck out of arguing the mercury in amalgams angle with you. tony > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > This note is late as I'm sure the topic has flown the page by > > now, > > > > but it has haunted my mind every since reading it. I say that > in > > a > > > > good sense. The article was posted by Sue giving her insights > to > > a > > > > treatment that she is receiving to optimize the availability of > > > > antibiotics to " blocked " areas. I want to mention here that > > reading > > > > your words Sue, literally opened up a flood gate of emotions, > > for I > > > > had not known that anyone else suffered with pain to the degree > > > that > > > > I do. I'm trying to hold back making grandious claims, to > become > > > too > > > > excited....but the procedure that you are describing is > > something > > > > that I have been trying to research the likelyhood of benefit ( > a > > > > little different mechanism, though) but my problem is that I > am > > > not > > > > able to convince the ID doc that my pain is of the intensity I > > > > describe. Although he doesn't prescribe my pain medications, he > > is > > > > constantly harping that infections aren't my problem, but > > narcotics > > > > are. I've never wished this pain on anyone before , except for > > him. > > > > Last week, despite getting the IvIG two weeks ago, it just felt > > > like > > > > it never kicked in and within the week I was " down and out " > with > > an > > > > infection. Raging throat, raging diarrhea, fever, sinus pain, > > yuky > > > > congestion. I was lost to the world for four days, meaning > > unable > > > to > > > > feed myself, or take care of even minimal personal care. I > tried > > to > > > > explain to the doctor how on the start of the second day the > > pain > > > > started in the hip, radiating all the way to the foot on one > leg > > of > > > > such intensity that I was unable to sleep. I reminded him that > > when > > > I > > > > got the MRSA, it started with back pain. I went to the ER and > > they > > > dx > > > > slipped disc, but I knew better because there had been no > > > opportunity > > > > for injury, and it came on gradually, like an infection was > > > settling > > > > in for the long haul. During the MRSA, the back pain was so > > severe, > > > I > > > > was literally in traction with heavy narcotics not even > touching > > > the > > > > pain. I could get no one to listen to me. They mri'd about > every > > > part > > > > of my back, hip, adreanls, etc. I even had one doctor say my > hip > > > was > > > > out of joint and then actually yanked my leg right there on the > > > spot, > > > > nearly making me pass out. Guess what.....get rid of the MRSA , > > the > > > > pain went away. The doctors just scoff. > > > > > > > > I have long tried to get the doctors to understand that maybe > we > > > > could use this " gift " as a way to get better treatment. The > > > > frustration that I have been through still leads to the same > > place, > > > > they are not going to do anything they don't want to > > > > Although I had not considered the gastro problems > specifically, > > > but > > > > of course, it makes sense. I guess I'm just so used to > operating > > on > > > > half a colon that I forget sometimes. > > > > > > > > It has been nagging at me that would there be any benefit using > > > some > > > > type of stimulation, maybe tens or even Rife in tandum with the > > > > antibiotics. It was obvious to me that this organism was > getting > > > > stuck in certtain locations of my body. While it could migrate > > > > overnight, generally it would be in one spot from two to six > > > months. > > > > Although it has been in the knees almost from day one. There > > have > > > > been areas that I previously was greatly pained, that no longer > > get > > > > affected. I was hoping that if it traversed the whole body, it > > > might > > > > give up and leave. Anyway, I have often wondered if utilizing > > the > > > > tens machine on the site of injection might help distribute a > IM > > > > serum better? Have recently been looking at Rife, not as a > > > substitute > > > > for antibiotics, but can it make them distribute throuought our > > > blood > > > > system better? I've been the gastro route and just received no > > > > support that it would be beneficial. They wouldn't even admit > > that > > > I > > > > was malabsorbing just because I had not lost any weight. > > Sometimes > > > > their criteria is from the stone ages. > > > > > > > > Sue, I truly send apologies for not getting back to your email. > > It > > > > has been a rough time again. Of course, you may use any > > information > > > > that I've given as personal experience. At the time I was > > > considering > > > > a national doctor, I frequented another forum that also was > > blessed > > > > with some of the members now here. From all information > gleened, > > > > Shoemaker was doing the triple antibiotic protocol. > > Unfortunately > > > he > > > > quit doing that protocol within the first month I was on it. He > > > > insisted that this staph phage lysate was the cure. > > > > I think that Dr. Shoemaker had a lot more to offer before he > > became > > > > famous in his own mind. (I don't mean that rudely) But he was > > the > > > > first doctor to explain to me that doctor's know they are only > > > going > > > > to be able to help a certain percentage of their patients, so > > the > > > > doctor must decide which patients will benefit from his > > experience > > > > and talents and which ones he should cut loose. I know a more > > > > seasoned patient wouldn't be so naive about a doctor's aloof > > > nature, > > > > being a beast of the business I guess. I just don't know how to > > > > describe the chills I got that day, as Dr. Shoemaker was > telling > > > > about patients he had saved and then those he could not. I got > > this > > > > eary feeling. It was not that death did not faze him one way or > > > > another, it was that he justified those he didn't help with > what > > I > > > > call the " substitution for sainthood " It goes like this. Lets' > > say > > > a > > > > patient dies and although the doctor didn't perform any > > miracles, > > > he > > > > didn't try all that hard either. But since he didn' tdo > anything > > > > technically wrong, he was not burdened that much, but just to > > make > > > > sure his " application for sainthood " was still in effect, he > > would > > > > help a patient with ingrown toenails and that substitution > would > > > > erase any life/death judgements he may have made in error. > > > > After the staph phage lysate infected my mouth and I lost > virgin > > > > teeth as it just killed the root, I called Dr. Shoemaker > because > > I > > > > felt that he should know this. That was when he informed me > that > > it > > > > was a real unstable product anyway. Something he had not > > mentioned > > > > before. But I still accepted the risk of any treatments I take, > > > thus > > > > I did not hold him responsible for his elementary prescribing > > > > practice. Unmarked bottle, no instructions. I was willing to > > > continue > > > > to utilize his experience and talents as he called them, but > no, > > he > > > > simply mailed me my records, saying that I should contact > > someone > > > who > > > > lived closer to me. Which might have made sense except he was > > > > referring me to a doctor in Kansas. I asked, no I begged to be > > > > referred to Dr. Havey, he flatly refused. That was when I found > > out > > > > that the LLMD kicked him out. He wouldn't even run lyme tests > > on > > > me, > > > > he was determined that he knew what I had before even seeing > me. > > > Dr. > > > > shoemaker was not single minded in this for money. By his own > > > > admission, he has contributed greatly to the community. Still, > > for > > > > some doctors, fame is more intoxicating than money. I thought > it > > > was > > > > so funny, I heard from another doctor that the FDA moved in > > shortly > > > > after my case, something about prescribing vetanarian products > > > > without FDA approval. I thought it was so, so funny. Some > > > prospective > > > > patients contacted me through my presence on the forums and > were > > > > inquiring as to Dr. Sh protocol. They said that Dr. Shoe was > > > telling > > > > them that the FDA was just helping him straighten out his > > paperwork > > > > for filing an application. > > > > > > > > Anyway, I didn't mean to get off on that .....I will have to > > come > > > > back and write more as to why I believe that Sues experience > > could > > > be > > > > the answer. There is just too much pain to write all at once > and > > if > > > I > > > > don't at least post this, I will fall asleep and forget. I will > > > write > > > > myself a note to come back. > > > > Peg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you > > might > > > > be > > > > > > interested in my findings today. > > > > > > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in > NY > > > > mostly > > > > > > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in > > NY, > > > he > > > > > > also sees a lot of Lyme. > > > > > > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you > > with > > > > > > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that > > he > > > > has > > > > > > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - > > > a > > > > way > > > > > > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often > > > missed > > > > > > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > > > > > > > > > > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually > > > > > measure, > > > > > > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O- Ring > > > testing > > > > > > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I > > take > > > > my > > > > > > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct > > the > > > > > > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels > again > > to > > > > be > > > > > > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, it was really interesting today. > > > > > > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I > > had > > > > very > > > > > > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder > > and > > > > repro > > > > > > organs. > > > > > > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various > > bacteria > > > > > that > > > > > > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams > (mg) > > of > > > > Bb > > > > > > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and > > reproductive > > > > > > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most > of > > > his > > > > > > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the > > acupoint > > > > > > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we > tested > > > > again > > > > > > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. > > In > > > > other > > > > > > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my > > hands, > > > > > then > > > > > > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and > > would > > > > > need > > > > > > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would > do > > > that > > > > > > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have > visible > > > > cysts > > > > > > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems > > everywhere > > > > as > > > > > I > > > > > > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected > > several > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the > > > > levels > > > > > > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms > > everywhere. > > > > > 10ng!!! > > > > > > I find that just fascinating. > > > > > > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on > amoxicillian > > X4 > > > a > > > > > > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose > > > to " direct " > > > > > > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > > > > > > > > > > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I > > test > > > as > > > > > > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or > > > sometimes > > > > > > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being > > responsive > > > > to. > > > > > > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. > > > > Always > > > > > X > > > > > > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of > > > > cilantro > > > > > > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > > > > > > > > > > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy > > and > > > > > > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand > > as > > > > > > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > > > > > > > > > > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had > > any > > > > idea > > > > > > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept > complaining > > of > > > > > > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all > > the > > > > > time. > > > > > > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. > Dr > > > > Omura > > > > > > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When > I > > > > tested > > > > > > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I > > did > > > and > > > > > > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally > > gone, > > > > > > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > > > > > > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > *S* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Sue Back on topic No-one does cultures of biopsies they throw the- NO CANCER FOUND bit in. Forget Igenex they only give you what you want to hear. Get it firstly to a normal lab then get the lyme test at igenex. If you have 2 species of staph make sure they are 'reported' and not considered contaminants. > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > This note is late as I'm sure the topic has flown the page by > > now, > > > > but it has haunted my mind every since reading it. I say that > in > > a > > > > good sense. The article was posted by Sue giving her insights > to > > a > > > > treatment that she is receiving to optimize the availability of > > > > antibiotics to " blocked " areas. I want to mention here that > > reading > > > > your words Sue, literally opened up a flood gate of emotions, > > for I > > > > had not known that anyone else suffered with pain to the degree > > > that > > > > I do. I'm trying to hold back making grandious claims, to > become > > > too > > > > excited....but the procedure that you are describing is > > something > > > > that I have been trying to research the likelyhood of benefit ( > a > > > > little different mechanism, though) but my problem is that I > am > > > not > > > > able to convince the ID doc that my pain is of the intensity I > > > > describe. Although he doesn't prescribe my pain medications, he > > is > > > > constantly harping that infections aren't my problem, but > > narcotics > > > > are. I've never wished this pain on anyone before , except for > > him. > > > > Last week, despite getting the IvIG two weeks ago, it just felt > > > like > > > > it never kicked in and within the week I was " down and out " > with > > an > > > > infection. Raging throat, raging diarrhea, fever, sinus pain, > > yuky > > > > congestion. I was lost to the world for four days, meaning > > unable > > > to > > > > feed myself, or take care of even minimal personal care. I > tried > > to > > > > explain to the doctor how on the start of the second day the > > pain > > > > started in the hip, radiating all the way to the foot on one > leg > > of > > > > such intensity that I was unable to sleep. I reminded him that > > when > > > I > > > > got the MRSA, it started with back pain. I went to the ER and > > they > > > dx > > > > slipped disc, but I knew better because there had been no > > > opportunity > > > > for injury, and it came on gradually, like an infection was > > > settling > > > > in for the long haul. During the MRSA, the back pain was so > > severe, > > > I > > > > was literally in traction with heavy narcotics not even > touching > > > the > > > > pain. I could get no one to listen to me. They mri'd about > every > > > part > > > > of my back, hip, adreanls, etc. I even had one doctor say my > hip > > > was > > > > out of joint and then actually yanked my leg right there on the > > > spot, > > > > nearly making me pass out. Guess what.....get rid of the MRSA , > > the > > > > pain went away. The doctors just scoff. > > > > > > > > I have long tried to get the doctors to understand that maybe > we > > > > could use this " gift " as a way to get better treatment. The > > > > frustration that I have been through still leads to the same > > place, > > > > they are not going to do anything they don't want to > > > > Although I had not considered the gastro problems > specifically, > > > but > > > > of course, it makes sense. I guess I'm just so used to > operating > > on > > > > half a colon that I forget sometimes. > > > > > > > > It has been nagging at me that would there be any benefit using > > > some > > > > type of stimulation, maybe tens or even Rife in tandum with the > > > > antibiotics. It was obvious to me that this organism was > getting > > > > stuck in certtain locations of my body. While it could migrate > > > > overnight, generally it would be in one spot from two to six > > > months. > > > > Although it has been in the knees almost from day one. There > > have > > > > been areas that I previously was greatly pained, that no longer > > get > > > > affected. I was hoping that if it traversed the whole body, it > > > might > > > > give up and leave. Anyway, I have often wondered if utilizing > > the > > > > tens machine on the site of injection might help distribute a > IM > > > > serum better? Have recently been looking at Rife, not as a > > > substitute > > > > for antibiotics, but can it make them distribute throuought our > > > blood > > > > system better? I've been the gastro route and just received no > > > > support that it would be beneficial. They wouldn't even admit > > that > > > I > > > > was malabsorbing just because I had not lost any weight. > > Sometimes > > > > their criteria is from the stone ages. > > > > > > > > Sue, I truly send apologies for not getting back to your email. > > It > > > > has been a rough time again. Of course, you may use any > > information > > > > that I've given as personal experience. At the time I was > > > considering > > > > a national doctor, I frequented another forum that also was > > blessed > > > > with some of the members now here. From all information > gleened, > > > > Shoemaker was doing the triple antibiotic protocol. > > Unfortunately > > > he > > > > quit doing that protocol within the first month I was on it. He > > > > insisted that this staph phage lysate was the cure. > > > > I think that Dr. Shoemaker had a lot more to offer before he > > became > > > > famous in his own mind. (I don't mean that rudely) But he was > > the > > > > first doctor to explain to me that doctor's know they are only > > > going > > > > to be able to help a certain percentage of their patients, so > > the > > > > doctor must decide which patients will benefit from his > > experience > > > > and talents and which ones he should cut loose. I know a more > > > > seasoned patient wouldn't be so naive about a doctor's aloof > > > nature, > > > > being a beast of the business I guess. I just don't know how to > > > > describe the chills I got that day, as Dr. Shoemaker was > telling > > > > about patients he had saved and then those he could not. I got > > this > > > > eary feeling. It was not that death did not faze him one way or > > > > another, it was that he justified those he didn't help with > what > > I > > > > call the " substitution for sainthood " It goes like this. Lets' > > say > > > a > > > > patient dies and although the doctor didn't perform any > > miracles, > > > he > > > > didn't try all that hard either. But since he didn' tdo > anything > > > > technically wrong, he was not burdened that much, but just to > > make > > > > sure his " application for sainthood " was still in effect, he > > would > > > > help a patient with ingrown toenails and that substitution > would > > > > erase any life/death judgements he may have made in error. > > > > After the staph phage lysate infected my mouth and I lost > virgin > > > > teeth as it just killed the root, I called Dr. Shoemaker > because > > I > > > > felt that he should know this. That was when he informed me > that > > it > > > > was a real unstable product anyway. Something he had not > > mentioned > > > > before. But I still accepted the risk of any treatments I take, > > > thus > > > > I did not hold him responsible for his elementary prescribing > > > > practice. Unmarked bottle, no instructions. I was willing to > > > continue > > > > to utilize his experience and talents as he called them, but > no, > > he > > > > simply mailed me my records, saying that I should contact > > someone > > > who > > > > lived closer to me. Which might have made sense except he was > > > > referring me to a doctor in Kansas. I asked, no I begged to be > > > > referred to Dr. Havey, he flatly refused. That was when I found > > out > > > > that the LLMD kicked him out. He wouldn't even run lyme tests > > on > > > me, > > > > he was determined that he knew what I had before even seeing > me. > > > Dr. > > > > shoemaker was not single minded in this for money. By his own > > > > admission, he has contributed greatly to the community. Still, > > for > > > > some doctors, fame is more intoxicating than money. I thought > it > > > was > > > > so funny, I heard from another doctor that the FDA moved in > > shortly > > > > after my case, something about prescribing vetanarian products > > > > without FDA approval. I thought it was so, so funny. Some > > > prospective > > > > patients contacted me through my presence on the forums and > were > > > > inquiring as to Dr. Sh protocol. They said that Dr. Shoe was > > > telling > > > > them that the FDA was just helping him straighten out his > > paperwork > > > > for filing an application. > > > > > > > > Anyway, I didn't mean to get off on that .....I will have to > > come > > > > back and write more as to why I believe that Sues experience > > could > > > be > > > > the answer. There is just too much pain to write all at once > and > > if > > > I > > > > don't at least post this, I will fall asleep and forget. I will > > > write > > > > myself a note to come back. > > > > Peg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know I am an odd duck here, but I thought a few of you > > might > > > > be > > > > > > interested in my findings today. > > > > > > My dentist studies with Dr Y Omura who is a researcher in > NY > > > > mostly > > > > > > involved with cancer and heart disease. But since he is in > > NY, > > > he > > > > > > also sees a lot of Lyme. > > > > > > I have posted about this stuff before so I won't bore you > > with > > > > > > Omura's credentials and accomplishments, except to say that > > he > > > > has > > > > > > come up with a method of " selective uptake " of medications - > > > a > > > > way > > > > > > to direct medications into certain areas of the body often > > > missed > > > > > > due to low blood supply or digestive or whatever. > > > > > > > > > > > > Today my Dr got his slides of Borellia so we could actually > > > > > measure, > > > > > > via Omura's resonance method called the Bi-Digital O- Ring > > > testing > > > > > > method, how much Bb is in me in specific locations. Then I > > take > > > > my > > > > > > medication and stimulate the acupressure points to direct > > the > > > > > > medication to those areas, and then we test the levels > again > > to > > > > be > > > > > > sure the medications got where we needed them to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, it was really interesting today. > > > > > > Dr got his Bb (Lyme) slides and we tested me everywhere. I > > had > > > > very > > > > > > high counts in all my trouble areas, hands, feet, bladder > > and > > > > repro > > > > > > organs. > > > > > > For this " resonance " testing, we use slides of various > > bacteria > > > > > that > > > > > > are graduated in size. I was measured at 390 milligrams > (mg) > > of > > > > Bb > > > > > > in my hand joints, my gut problem, my bladder and > > reproductive > > > > > > systems. This was really high levels. He has to take most > of > > > his > > > > > > slides and add them together to get the amount right, in > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Then, I took an amoxicillian (compounded) and did the > > acupoint > > > > > > stimulations for those locations. 30 minutes later we > tested > > > > again > > > > > > to see where I was stimulating and also to see the effect. > > In > > > > other > > > > > > words, if I tested high counts in my knees and not in my > > hands, > > > > > then > > > > > > we knew that the medication was not reaching my knees and > > would > > > > > need > > > > > > to find the acupuncture point for the knees. Then I would > do > > > that > > > > > > and we would measure the levels again. In me, I have > visible > > > > cysts > > > > > > in my hands and feet but feel pain and have problems > > everywhere > > > > as > > > > > I > > > > > > have probably been infected since birth and reinfected > > several > > > > > times. > > > > > > > > > > > > After stimulating my points for my locations, we tested the > > > > levels > > > > > > and I had dropped from 390mg down to 10 nanograms > > everywhere. > > > > > 10ng!!! > > > > > > I find that just fascinating. > > > > > > Nice to see results like that. So, I am back on > amoxicillian > > X4 > > > a > > > > > > day and stimulating my points each time I take a dose > > > to " direct " > > > > > > the medication to the areas I need medicated. > > > > > > > > > > > > I take the medications 4X (with stimulation)a day until I > > test > > > as > > > > > > not needing it - then usually I get switched to doxy or > > > sometimes > > > > > > Flagyl or Diflucan depending on what I test as being > > responsive > > > > to. > > > > > > Most of the time I take them for up to two weeks at a time. > > > > Always > > > > > X > > > > > > 4 a day. It was cilantro for metals, (Omura formulation of > > > > cilantro > > > > > > in pills) and doxy for chlamydia. > > > > > > > > > > > > We found that certain medications must be compounded - Doxy > > and > > > > > > Amoxy. We also found that Flagyl has to be a certain brand > > as > > > > > > another brand neither tested well, nor worked. > > > > > > > > > > > > We have been doing this for over a year. Neither of us had > > any > > > > idea > > > > > > I had Lyme until a couple months ago when I kept > complaining > > of > > > > > > joint pain and the cysts in my hands and feet throbbed all > > the > > > > > time. > > > > > > Even after testing clean of chlamydia for several months. > Dr > > > > Omura > > > > > > found that arthritis is either chlamydia or Borrelia. When > I > > > > tested > > > > > > clean of chlamydia my Dr told me to get a Lyme test and I > > did > > > and > > > > > > voila! CDC & IgeneX positive. > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, when the chlamydia and the heavy metals were finally > > gone, > > > > > > (took 8 months) i was already feeling about 75% improved. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just an update FYI for ya'll. > > > > > > I am most hopeful - just wish it wasn't such a slow process. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > *S* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Tony Tony Tony, you bait me. But me, being oh-so-grown-up and all, I won't bite nooooo. Except to say I will debate Mercury any day. On the other hand, Mercury poisoning is one of those things you don't realize you have until it's gone. ANYWAY, I am confused by your last post here. You say don't bother with Igenex, but then you say get an Igenex test. I have already had a Lyme test at Igenex - positive. I am just wondering what to do with the samples from the biopsy I am going to have in a week or three. No doubt the surgeon will have his place to send the samples to but I am wondering if I should get back- up, and where and for what and can I get a kit. Cheers and thx, *S* > > > > Hey Tony. > > I am most curious to see what comes out of the biopsy. > > But as long as I have to go through the proceedure, I want to make > > sure I get it to the labs I need to get it to. I hope Igenex is > able > > to take a look. > > I wouldn't be surprised either, if we find all your favorite pals > in > > there. Have you heard about The Calcium Bomb > http://www.calcify.com/ > > > > Dunno about blood - tests all seem ok, but my psychic friend has > been > > telling me since 1980 that my blood is bad. > > > > Cheers, > > *S* > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Suzie Suzie Suzie I felt you thought Igenex may do all your bacterial testing. I thought- don't expect Igenex to look for your 2 staphs and a pseudonomas just get them to look for your lyme.You know my favourite tool for the stool- 'the PCR test-' was a stool sample I once had tested, they found remnants of bing cosby. Also ask Igenex if you can have fries with that.I just think the PCR test has a long way to go to convince me that clean catch microbiology is doomed.I also found 99% of doctors also just KNOW HOW PATHETIC SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE. When you've got good science you should be able to follow up with good treatments in my opinion.There is a whole big deal with gulf war and pcr testing and even after 5 million dollars the gulf war vets aren't doing that well- actually I don't think I've seen one anywhere jumping for joy with the doxycycline protocol from the nicholson team(team bullcrap).. > > > > > > Hey Tony. > > > I am most curious to see what comes out of the biopsy. > > > But as long as I have to go through the proceedure, I want to > make > > > sure I get it to the labs I need to get it to. I hope Igenex is > > able > > > to take a look. > > > I wouldn't be surprised either, if we find all your favorite pals > > in > > > there. Have you heard about The Calcium Bomb > > http://www.calcify.com/ > > > > > > Dunno about blood - tests all seem ok, but my psychic friend has > > been > > > telling me since 1980 that my blood is bad. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > *S* > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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