Re: strep A

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Be sure and switch your toothbrushes.

Strep can live on them & re-infect you after treatment. Patrice

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On Behalf Of Barb Peck

Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 7:37

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[infections] strep A

My husband and I both have strep A.

We're now pretty sure he caught it from someone on

his deep sea

fishing trip, and gave it to me.

I went to my Dr. today.. and he's

funny - he looked at my throat and

said " Hello!.. That's nasty! That's

strep! " ..And my ears are pretty

full of fluid (but I'm not near as bad as

yesterday)

He wrote a scrip for both of us for Amoxi.

He said we'd be non-infectious after 48 hrs

on antibiotics.

I've never had strep throat before.

He couldn't do the official test for Strep

(to document it) because

I had already started us both on antibiotics

yesterday after I made my

best guess as to what this was. (

Strep A can affect the heart and

kidneys and hubby was already 10 days untreated.)

So we're both doing 80mg/kg for 5 days then

40mg/kg for 5 days.. and

he said if a sore throat ( & swollen glands)

comes back within 6 months

to come back.

So. No Lyme relapse (yet).

Barb

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Barb

Do some cultures and use penicillin, amoxacillin is a bad second

choice to penicillin for streps.My doctor and I had this same

discussion it's like they use amoxacillins in doctors offices but

this drug ain't used in real infections, because it's possably not

as capable of wipping out infections completely.

> My husband and I both have strep A.

> We're now pretty sure he caught it from someone on his deep sea

> fishing trip, and gave it to me.

>

> I went to my Dr. today.. and he's funny - he looked at my

throat and

> said " Hello!.. That's nasty! That's strep! " ..And my ears are

pretty

> full of fluid (but I'm not near as bad as yesterday)

> He wrote a scrip for both of us for Amoxi.

> He said we'd be non-infectious after 48 hrs on antibiotics.

> I've never had strep throat before.

> He couldn't do the official test for Strep (to document it)

because

> I had already started us both on antibiotics yesterday after I

made my

> best guess as to what this was. ( Strep A can affect the heart

and

> kidneys and hubby was already 10 days untreated.)

>

> So we're both doing 80mg/kg for 5 days then 40mg/kg for 5 days..

and

> he said if a sore throat ( & swollen glands) comes back within 6

months

> to come back.

>

>

> So. No Lyme relapse (yet).

> Barb

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I mentioned that to Dr. A -

Whether to use Penicillin or Amoxi.

I know that penicillin alone can create some nasty variants pretty

quickly when it's used alone. (and oral isn't as good as IV)

That's why the decision was made for the high dose Amoxi (80mg/Kg -

AKA dead bugs don't morph or mutate and I already know we can both

tolerate higher doses than that).

Hope this was the right decision.

Barb

> > My husband and I both have strep A.

> > We're now pretty sure he caught it from someone on his deep sea

> > fishing trip, and gave it to me.

> >

> > I went to my Dr. today.. and he's funny - he looked at my

> throat and

> > said " Hello!.. That's nasty! That's strep! " ..And my ears are

> pretty

> > full of fluid (but I'm not near as bad as yesterday)

> > He wrote a scrip for both of us for Amoxi.

> > He said we'd be non-infectious after 48 hrs on antibiotics.

> > I've never had strep throat before.

> > He couldn't do the official test for Strep (to document it)

> because

> > I had already started us both on antibiotics yesterday after I

> made my

> > best guess as to what this was. ( Strep A can affect the heart

> and

> > kidneys and hubby was already 10 days untreated.)

> >

> > So we're both doing 80mg/kg for 5 days then 40mg/kg for 5 days..

> and

> > he said if a sore throat ( & swollen glands) comes back within 6

> months

> > to come back.

> >

> >

> > So. No Lyme relapse (yet).

> > Barb

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Barb

I was just sharing my doctors thoughts as far as eradication as

opposed to relief went. He was comfortable that the outcome using

penicillin as opposed to using the amoxy was THE DIFFERENCE between

getting over something as opposed to keeping things going.I also

find in real medicine amoxacillin is a poor performer that doesn't

have big wraps in real therapy circles.

> > > My husband and I both have strep A.

> > > We're now pretty sure he caught it from someone on his deep

sea

> > > fishing trip, and gave it to me.

> > >

> > > I went to my Dr. today.. and he's funny - he looked at my

> > throat and

> > > said " Hello!.. That's nasty! That's strep! " ..And my ears are

> > pretty

> > > full of fluid (but I'm not near as bad as yesterday)

> > > He wrote a scrip for both of us for Amoxi.

> > > He said we'd be non-infectious after 48 hrs on antibiotics.

> > > I've never had strep throat before.

> > > He couldn't do the official test for Strep (to document it)

> > because

> > > I had already started us both on antibiotics yesterday after

I

> > made my

> > > best guess as to what this was. ( Strep A can affect the

heart

> > and

> > > kidneys and hubby was already 10 days untreated.)

> > >

> > > So we're both doing 80mg/kg for 5 days then 40mg/kg for 5

days..

> > and

> > > he said if a sore throat ( & swollen glands) comes back within

6

> > months

> > > to come back.

> > >

> > >

> > > So. No Lyme relapse (yet).

> > > Barb

[Guest guest]

OUCH! Strep throat hurts. I used to get it yearly (or occassionally twice

yearly) before

my current PCP suggested downing gobs of cayenne pepper-laced tomato sauce at

the first sign of a sore throat (indeed, not a single episode in the 8 years

since).

At any rate, I AM THRILLED for you that it is not a relapse.

Get well soon,

~DM

> My husband and I both have strep A.

> We're now pretty sure he caught it from someone on his deep sea

> fishing trip, and gave it to me.

>

> I went to my Dr. today.. and he's funny - he looked at my throat and

> said " Hello!.. That's nasty! That's strep! " ..And my ears are pretty

> full of fluid (but I'm not near as bad as yesterday)

> He wrote a scrip for both of us for Amoxi.

> He said we'd be non-infectious after 48 hrs on antibiotics.

> I've never had strep throat before.

> He couldn't do the official test for Strep (to document it) because

> I had already started us both on antibiotics yesterday after I made my

> best guess as to what this was. ( Strep A can affect the heart and

> kidneys and hubby was already 10 days untreated.)

>

> So we're both doing 80mg/kg for 5 days then 40mg/kg for 5 days.. and

> he said if a sore throat ( & swollen glands) comes back within 6 months

> to come back.

>

>

> So. No Lyme relapse (yet).

> Barb

[Guest guest]

Here's an interesting aside as far as symptoms- A major Lyme

symptom for me was pain at the right ocipital bone then down back of

my neck on the right side, and in the front of the right side of the

neck - a burning itching swollen sort of feeling -

Although the acute symptoms of strep are about 85% gone (sore throat

plugged ears) This neck thing is in high gear today..

So how come? Any ideas?

Barb

> > My husband and I both have strep A.

> > We're now pretty sure he caught it from someone on his deep sea

> > fishing trip, and gave it to me.

> >

> > I went to my Dr. today.. and he's funny - he looked at my

throat and

> > said " Hello!.. That's nasty! That's strep! " ..And my ears are

pretty

> > full of fluid (but I'm not near as bad as yesterday)

> > He wrote a scrip for both of us for Amoxi.

> > He said we'd be non-infectious after 48 hrs on antibiotics.

> > I've never had strep throat before.

> > He couldn't do the official test for Strep (to document it)

because

> > I had already started us both on antibiotics yesterday after I

made my

> > best guess as to what this was. ( Strep A can affect the heart

and

> > kidneys and hubby was already 10 days untreated.)

> >

> > So we're both doing 80mg/kg for 5 days then 40mg/kg for 5 days..

and

> > he said if a sore throat ( & swollen glands) comes back within 6

months

> > to come back.

> >

> >

> > So. No Lyme relapse (yet).

> > Barb

[Guest guest]

Interesting. My friend also SWEARS by cayenne pepper for a sore

throat. Last time she was here she filled a bunch of capsules for us,

because both my girls and I were catching a cold, and my youngest had

a sore throat. But the Tagament worked for us, so I've got a bunch of

cayenne capsules sitting here.

penny

I used to get it yearly (or occassionally twice yearly) before

> my current PCP suggested downing gobs of cayenne pepper-laced tomato

sauce at the first sign of a sore throat (indeed, not a single episode

in the 8 years since).

[Guest guest]

Barb

The throat in autoimmune ilnesses is GROSSLY INFECTED and even

though you think pumping in the amoxacillin is high enough it's

still WAY OFF THE MARK as to what is needed and going on.Also I feel

comfy that the strep A may not be the correct call. There's a strong

possability- but without that little knowledge your fighting with

the wrong drug often.

> > > My husband and I both have strep A.

> > > We're now pretty sure he caught it from someone on his deep

sea

> > > fishing trip, and gave it to me.

> > >

> > > I went to my Dr. today.. and he's funny - he looked at my

> throat and

> > > said " Hello!.. That's nasty! That's strep! " ..And my ears are

> pretty

> > > full of fluid (but I'm not near as bad as yesterday)

> > > He wrote a scrip for both of us for Amoxi.

> > > He said we'd be non-infectious after 48 hrs on antibiotics.

> > > I've never had strep throat before.

> > > He couldn't do the official test for Strep (to document it)

> because

> > > I had already started us both on antibiotics yesterday after

I

> made my

> > > best guess as to what this was. ( Strep A can affect the

heart

> and

> > > kidneys and hubby was already 10 days untreated.)

> > >

> > > So we're both doing 80mg/kg for 5 days then 40mg/kg for 5

days..

> and

> > > he said if a sore throat ( & swollen glands) comes back within

6

> months

> > > to come back.

> > >

> > >

> > > So. No Lyme relapse (yet).

> > > Barb

[Guest guest]

I had a long list of overt symptoms which pointed to chronic

inflammation (including pathology reports) and I had several overt

symptoms pointing to infection.

I think that if I had chosen the wrong drugs over the course of

my Lyme treatment I would not have acheived the results I did.

As far as this throat thing goes...If I hadn't decided to self

medicate before I went to the Dr... we all would know for sure

whether this is strep or not ( symptoms and picture of throat on

hubby and I fit the decription to a T).

But I didn't have the test - so yes- we don't know for sure..

But hubby has risen from the dead in 3 days on Amoxi (80mg/Kg) - and

has gone to work today, and 3 days of high dose Amoxi has lessened

both our symptoms about 80% - my fever's gone and throat feels normal.

This indicates to me the dose and drug choice was correct...

What would you suggest instead?

Barb

> > > > My husband and I both have strep A.

> > > > We're now pretty sure he caught it from someone on his deep

> sea

> > > > fishing trip, and gave it to me.

> > > >

> > > > I went to my Dr. today.. and he's funny - he looked at my

> > throat and

> > > > said " Hello!.. That's nasty! That's strep! " ..And my ears are

> > pretty

> > > > full of fluid (but I'm not near as bad as yesterday)

> > > > He wrote a scrip for both of us for Amoxi.

> > > > He said we'd be non-infectious after 48 hrs on antibiotics.

> > > > I've never had strep throat before.

> > > > He couldn't do the official test for Strep (to document it)

> > because

> > > > I had already started us both on antibiotics yesterday after

> I

> > made my

> > > > best guess as to what this was. ( Strep A can affect the

> heart

> > and

> > > > kidneys and hubby was already 10 days untreated.)

> > > >

> > > > So we're both doing 80mg/kg for 5 days then 40mg/kg for 5

> days..

> > and

> > > > he said if a sore throat ( & swollen glands) comes back

within

> 6

> > months

> > > > to come back.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > So. No Lyme relapse (yet).

> > > > Barb

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Barb

For strep throat the penicillin VK is the best option, I'm sort of

guessing that penicillin is a better distributor thru the

body.Actually my cousin gets no benefit at all from a box of

amoxacillin about 20 tabs and alway's asks for the shots which bring

him back to life immediately.

> > > > > My husband and I both have strep A.

> > > > > We're now pretty sure he caught it from someone on his

deep

> > sea

> > > > > fishing trip, and gave it to me.

> > > > >

> > > > > I went to my Dr. today.. and he's funny - he looked at

my

> > > throat and

> > > > > said " Hello!.. That's nasty! That's strep! " ..And my ears

are

> > > pretty

> > > > > full of fluid (but I'm not near as bad as yesterday)

> > > > > He wrote a scrip for both of us for Amoxi.

> > > > > He said we'd be non-infectious after 48 hrs on

antibiotics.

> > > > > I've never had strep throat before.

> > > > > He couldn't do the official test for Strep (to document

it)

> > > because

> > > > > I had already started us both on antibiotics yesterday

after

> > I

> > > made my

> > > > > best guess as to what this was. ( Strep A can affect the

> > heart

> > > and

> > > > > kidneys and hubby was already 10 days untreated.)

> > > > >

> > > > > So we're both doing 80mg/kg for 5 days then 40mg/kg for 5

> > days..

> > > and

> > > > > he said if a sore throat ( & swollen glands) comes back

> within

> > 6

> > > months

> > > > > to come back.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > So. No Lyme relapse (yet).

> > > > > Barb