Re: Lyme/Rife book on sale...

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oh goody!

A. advertising on yet another forum

B. unsubstantiated crap for a few bucks less. ooooh, wait! i'm low on TP....

> The Lyme/Rife book ( http://www.lymebook.com/ ) is on sale until 10/31/05.

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> The Lyme Disease Book

> http://www.lymebook.com/

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Dura

There's nothing wrong with adding a rife to your regime.On it's own

in some it can be a powerfull tool, but in the majority it's

possably not.Discouragement from it's use should be avoided as it

should be tried by all.--

-I think when your toxic your full of the equivalent in some cases

of 'acid like substances' that are possably similar in nature

to 'battery acids'. Using technology that shorts or stimulates or

moves this isn't necessarily bad science IMO.I recall trying to

introduce silver papaer or anything to my oral cavity and the strong

reaction I would get.Actually even try and place a quarter near the

back of the tongue and I'm sure we are getting some form of electric

process -good bad or otherwise something is definately up. Also the

extra charge we are more likeley to give off from having this when

walking across carpeted area';s and touching door handles- many

casino's come to mind.many unexplanable shocks as opposed to nothing

for those around me.

-- In infections , " duramater27 " <spam-

barb@c...> wrote:

> oh goody!

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> A. advertising on yet another forum

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> B. unsubstantiated crap for a few bucks less. ooooh, wait! i'm

low on TP....

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> --- In infections , TheSkyKing@a...

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> > The Lyme/Rife book ( http://www.lymebook.com/ ) is on sale until

10/31/05.

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> > The Lyme Disease Book

> > http://www.lymebook.com/

[Guest guest]

A. I'm sick of this guy advertising everywhere

B. The " info " in his book is largely opinion presented as fact.

C. Feel free to hook yourself up to some physics-defying gizmo. That's your

choice

and not what I was responding to.

> > > The Lyme/Rife book ( http://www.lymebook.com/ ) is on sale until

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Sorry to annoy you, it was just this thing at the back of the mind

that always' tries to understand how there can be benefits from

these technologies. I'm also trying to work out what seems to happen

when you get into a happy/strong/ enjoyable music environment. I

notice that mild symptoms often disappear instantaneously like

taking a good drug. Is this somehow tied to quorum sensing (bacteria

communicating with one another)and the ability of good vibes to

switch it off, as opposed to bad environmnents having the ability to

switch something on.I do notice that some musicians show exeptional

health even though they lead a very bad lifestyle.

> > > > The Lyme/Rife book ( http://www.lymebook.com/ ) is on sale

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Its sort of strange because over on lymenet he posted a thread where

he asked why people got upset that he wrote a book and charged for

it. I'm not sure if the thread is still there, but various folks

answered, and I said, people don't mind you writing a book and

charging for it though maybe its a bit overpriced imo, but what they

mind is repeatedly using newsgroups on , curezone, etc, to

advertise it when those boards are generally by patients and for

patients to exchange free information. I said if you'd posted one

announcement okay, but repeated postings--often with an excuse--as

this one an october sale, or previous ones, five reviews on amazon,

i.e. fake news, is transparent and annoying, and why not market it

through traditional means like most folks use?

Who knows. It doesn't really matter. Skyking has family $ but I'd

warrant he didn't earn as much from the book as he hoped, neither did

Marc (who charges $29 for his ebook on salt/C and I've seen his ads

pop up on the google groups sci-med page, so he's paying for ads for

the book.

Rife does seem to help some, and so does salt/c. If I write a book

I'll charge for it and maybe pay for ads, but I'm likely just to

write a book where doctors give info, not some book where I assume

authority about a protocol. I'll probably only announce it once.

People post my articles on the newsgroups, I certainly don't and I

mostly refrain from commenting on the article when I see it posted.

> > > > The Lyme/Rife book ( http://www.lymebook.com/ ) is on sale

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Advertising on these lists irritates me. And you're makin' the rounds.

If one is feeling well- then it can be ignored- but if one is sick

then yipeeeee - maybe you make a sale?

If the list wants to discuss the pros and cons of this therapy that's

one thing- but making money, advertising a product on lists where

peopeople are sick - just doesn't set well with me.

Barb- who's with Dura on this one.

> The Lyme/Rife book ( http://www.lymebook.com/ ) is on sale until

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Three weeks ago I bought the Hilda e Zapper and can only say

that the first three days I used it I was so out of it mentally and

had no strength at all. This was not just my imagination, I was

feeling pretty good for several days just prior to doing this. I'm

guessing die-off. I also bent two pennies in half and stuck one in

each ear. Lights flashed in my eyes when I turned it on. I stopped

doing this when I used a tennis head band to secure the handles at

my temples and got some burn marks where the gator clip touched my

skin. Still doing this, but now I use lubricant jelly with a little

salt mixed in as an interface conductor to spread entry and exit of

current out, vs. having it enter at a small spot, thus getting

burnt, and attach the clips away from skin. My initial thoughts are

that it does some good, but time will tell if it helps do the trick.

I figure can't hurt as much as 110VAC as last resort. Bet that would

fry some bugs! Who knows, maybe in recovery the immune system would

see some of the fried bugs and make some antibodies, and, maybe not.

> > > The Lyme/Rife book ( http://www.lymebook.com/ ) is on sale

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> 10/31/05.

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> > > The Lyme Disease Book

> > > http://www.lymebook.com/

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[Guest guest]

What's the hilda zapper trying to do?I also think the tens machine

which is one of those pain devices sounds similar- haven't had much

experience with a lot of these- but never discount anything is my

moto. Altyhough after realising what the full story is- the sky king

is a bit on the shady side, I give him the thumbs down.I woul;d

think though that devices doing a smart thing will enable good

feeling pretty quick because your breaking down the communication

bacteria use to pump you full of disease.This shpould be the case

more often than not when something is on the right pathway to making

you well. There are exceptions but I would only rely on good science

to suffer for those.

tony

> > > > The Lyme/Rife book ( http://www.lymebook.com/ ) is on sale

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[Guest guest]

There is a wide range of devices with a wide range of reported

effects and a wider range, even then, of voltage and amps, i.e.

strength of the field and pulse/current. Some are magnetic and some

are electric. Nobody knows how they're working and whether they

affect microbes, which microbes and how, and whether they also damage

cells or the nervous system. I've experimented with several and had

adverse effects with most and gave up. All that glitters is not gold

and all that hurts isnot a herx.

He cross posted that to almost every list I'm on, lol! From oxyplus

to I & I to Lymeaid etc. I can see posting it on electroherbalims

(which he did) but basically he cross posted a mass advertising

campaign to any health list he thinks someone might buy it.

> > > > > The Lyme/Rife book ( http://www.lymebook.com/ ) is on sale

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[Guest guest]

Please keep us posted on how it goes, good luck!

BW,

Sheila

Friday, October 7, 2005, 3:58:02 AM, you wrote:

d> Three weeks ago I bought the Hilda e Zapper and can only say

d> that the first three days I used it I was so out of it mentally and

d> had no strength at all. This was not just my imagination, I was

d> feeling pretty good for several days just prior to doing this. I'm

d> guessing die-off. I also bent two pennies in half and stuck one in

d> each ear. Lights flashed in my eyes when I turned it on. I stopped

d> doing this when I used a tennis head band to secure the handles at

d> my temples and got some burn marks where the gator clip touched my

d> skin. Still doing this, but now I use lubricant jelly with a little

d> salt mixed in as an interface conductor to spread entry and exit of

d> current out, vs. having it enter at a small spot, thus getting

d> burnt, and attach the clips away from skin. My initial thoughts are

d> that it does some good, but time will tell if it helps do the trick.

d> I figure can't hurt as much as 110VAC as last resort. Bet that would

d> fry some bugs! Who knows, maybe in recovery the immune system would

d> see some of the fried bugs and make some antibodies, and, maybe not.

d>

>> > > The Lyme/Rife book ( http://www.lymebook.com/ ) is on sale

d> until

>> 10/31/05.

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>> > > The Lyme Disease Book

>> > > http://www.lymebook.com/

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d>

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Dura says this book presents theory as fact, which is concerning.

Theory presented as fact is one thing I really dislike. But I havent

read a word of the book.

Only other thing I have to say is that has contributed to this

list some fascinating, useful information about nitroimidazoles, which

I never learned about elsewhere.

[Guest guest]

LOL

I can tell you that the sun rises in the morning and sets at night-

which is fact...

And if I also tell you that I own the Geese That Lay Golden Eggs -

and I'll sell you one - does the first statement make you want to buy

a Goose?

Barb

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> Dura says this book presents theory as fact, which is concerning.

> Theory presented as fact is one thing I really dislike. But I

havent

> read a word of the book.

>

> Only other thing I have to say is that has contributed to

this

> list some fascinating, useful information about nitroimidazoles,

which

> I never learned about elsewhere.

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[Guest guest]

Brava! Superb analogy.

> >

> > Dura says this book presents theory as fact, which is concerning.

> > Theory presented as fact is one thing I really dislike. But I

> havent

> > read a word of the book.

> >

> > Only other thing I have to say is that has contributed to

> this

> > list some fascinating, useful information about nitroimidazoles,

> which

> > I never learned about elsewhere.

> >

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[Guest guest]

Quite true. His being able to give us some tips on nitroimidazoles

doesnt mean his book is right.

Really I'm just saying, its not like ya never did nothin for us,

, so IMO people should be nice or sorta nice - even if they are

gonna criticize, which is of course what were here for (to think thru

things critically).

Ive personally been doing really well on nitroimidazoles (which not

everyone does), so maybe thats part of my perspective. Id like to

marry a tab of tinidazole.

> > >

> > > Dura says this book presents theory as fact, which is

concerning.

> > > Theory presented as fact is one thing I really dislike. But I

> > havent

> > > read a word of the book.

> > >

> > > Only other thing I have to say is that has contributed to

> > this

> > > list some fascinating, useful information about

nitroimidazoles,

> > which

> > > I never learned about elsewhere.

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[Guest guest]

The Hulda Zapper is suppose to interfere with the bacteria

through frequency changes.

> > > > > The Lyme/Rife book ( http://www.lymebook.com/ ) is on sale

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[Guest guest]

One thing I though I would m ention but forgot:

The reason I bought the zapper is a friend at work told me his father

in law had cfs, skin on arms had gotten hard and red, hurting, etc.

Doctors were befuddled for months. Sounded like scleroderma to me, or

something similiar. Anyway, he told me the old man had been surfing

the web and ran across the zapper. He built his own, being somewhat

of a tinkerer. He said the old man (~80 yo)held the copper bars in

his hands for about an hour a day, and after a few weeks his arms

were noticeably better and still improving. I immediately bought one,

but had always thought it to be hooey. I figured it would be good to

start it now while on abx rather than wait til I didn't have any and

be doing it as last resort tactics.

> > > > > > The Lyme/Rife book ( http://www.lymebook.com/ ) is on

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[Guest guest]

I'm glad you showed enough sense to put a few therapies in place at

the same time. People have to get there heads around how huge and

ugly these diseases are and multiple strategies are more the norm

and the order of the day- rather than simple simon stuff.

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[Guest guest]

Stopping by to read a few posts and can't understand the angry tone

towards and his book. Have any of you read it?!!

My history is Lyme for 20+ years. After NO diagnosis (10 years)and then

many treatments of various kinds, I have slowly worked my way back to a

level of health that is acceptable.>

I find 's book an incredible resource for those ill who are

looking for alternative ideas to treat Lyme disease. He has walked a

similar path as mine and tried many treatments that I have tried. They

have all contributed to a gradual return to function.

Maybe you were a bit harsh????

[Guest guest]

All groups have this sensitive trigger finger to anyone advertising

anything -even a complete cure would get attacked full force by many

who are very ill. Myself personally I feel I can be nauseous-

because sometimes i respond strictly on auto pilot on what I observe-

yet the forum needs a softer tone and simple simon science as to

what someone is trying to achieve- in his egs. with rife.

If I were brian I would focus my energy on showing a couple of wires

attached to a bacterial colony and watch the rife technology blow

apart spirochetes or any type of colony- if he wants more respect,

and less anger.

fortunately this group is more advanced than most and we do tend to

demand better science and less rhetoric.(this is my new word for the

week, can someone tell me if I'm spelling it right).

tony

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> Stopping by to read a few posts and can't understand the angry

tone

> towards and his book. Have any of you read it?!!

>

> My history is Lyme for 20+ years. After NO diagnosis (10 years)and

then

> many treatments of various kinds, I have slowly worked my way back

to a

> level of health that is acceptable.>

>

> I find 's book an incredible resource for those ill who are

> looking for alternative ideas to treat Lyme disease. He has walked

a

> similar path as mine and tried many treatments that I have tried.

They

> have all contributed to a gradual return to function.

>

> Maybe you were a bit harsh????

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>

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[Guest guest]

Yes I have read it. No I am not being harsh. I stand by my statements.

>

> Stopping by to read a few posts and can't understand the angry tone

> towards and his book. Have any of you read it?!!

>

> My history is Lyme for 20+ years. After NO diagnosis (10 years)and then

> many treatments of various kinds, I have slowly worked my way back to a

> level of health that is acceptable.>

>

> I find 's book an incredible resource for those ill who are

> looking for alternative ideas to treat Lyme disease. He has walked a

> similar path as mine and tried many treatments that I have tried. They

> have all contributed to a gradual return to function.

>

> Maybe you were a bit harsh????

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