Re: Good news after stopping Abilify

[Guest guest]

i tried requip and it sucked. i definitely think that taking other strong

drugs is only adding fuel to the fire. i dont see how other psychtropic

drugs could help psychtropic drug induced sexual dysfunction. we need to

detoxify our bodies not rid them with more mind and sex altering chemicals.

>

>Reply-To: SSRIsex

>To: SSRIsex

>Subject: Good news after stopping Abilify

>Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 05:32:19 -0000

>

>Hi guys,

>

>I've been very busy lately at work but I wanted to briefly share the

>latest news.

>

>Abilify + Requip was a combo that didn't work. I felt quite horrible

>in the end actually. I started having problems sleeping and as I had

>stayed pretty much awake for four nights in a row I stopped both

>Requip and Abilify.

>

>It's been a week now and I still can't sleep properly.

>

>But the sex is good! =)

>

>The last three days have been great. Better than anything I've

>experienced since stopping SSRI's. Now I have a pretty constant

>libido and I get pleasure from sex. There have been moments when the

>desire really kicks in and it feels just great! Sometimes I feel

>very close to normal.

>

>I think the fluctuations are still there, but now the drop is mild

>and I have much longer periods of returning sexuality.

>

>I have no clue what caused this sudden progress. It could be the on-

>off thing once again but now it's stronger than ever before. I'll

>stay off the drugs and see what happens.

>

>Keeping my fingers crossed. Hope you do the same...

>

>Biker

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Biker -

Great news. I hope things continue to progress. Three questions:

1. Did you experience any improvements WHILE on the combo or did it

all come after stopping?

2. Do you think perhaps this combo helped to " jumpstart " your system?

3. Are you on any test. supplementation?

Maybe for some people all it takes is a few weeks on some sort of

pro-dopamine combo to get things going again.

Thanks

Luther

>

> Hi guys,

>

> I've been very busy lately at work but I wanted to briefly share

the

> latest news.

>

> Abilify + Requip was a combo that didn't work. I felt quite

horrible

> in the end actually. I started having problems sleeping and as I

had

> stayed pretty much awake for four nights in a row I stopped both

> Requip and Abilify.

>

> It's been a week now and I still can't sleep properly.

>

> But the sex is good! =)

>

> The last three days have been great. Better than anything I've

> experienced since stopping SSRI's. Now I have a pretty constant

> libido and I get pleasure from sex. There have been moments when

the

> desire really kicks in and it feels just great! Sometimes I feel

> very close to normal.

>

> I think the fluctuations are still there, but now the drop is mild

> and I have much longer periods of returning sexuality.

>

> I have no clue what caused this sudden progress. It could be the

on-

> off thing once again but now it's stronger than ever before. I'll

> stay off the drugs and see what happens.

>

> Keeping my fingers crossed. Hope you do the same...

>

> Biker

>

[Guest guest]

hi tom,

yes, but look how well you`re doing a few weeks *after* quitting requip. this

rebound effect seems to be a recurring theme. what do you think?

vornan

>

> i tried requip and it sucked. i definitely think that taking other strong

> drugs is only adding fuel to the fire. i dont see how other psychtropic

> drugs could help psychtropic drug induced sexual dysfunction. we need to

> detoxify our bodies not rid them with more mind and sex altering chemicals.

>

>

> >

> >Reply-To: SSRIsex

> >To: SSRIsex

> >Subject: Good news after stopping Abilify

> >Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 05:32:19 -0000

> >

> >Hi guys,

> >

> >I've been very busy lately at work but I wanted to briefly share the

> >latest news.

> >

> >Abilify + Requip was a combo that didn't work. I felt quite horrible

> >in the end actually. I started having problems sleeping and as I had

> >stayed pretty much awake for four nights in a row I stopped both

> >Requip and Abilify.

> >

> >It's been a week now and I still can't sleep properly.

> >

> >But the sex is good! =)

> >

> >The last three days have been great. Better than anything I've

> >experienced since stopping SSRI's. Now I have a pretty constant

> >libido and I get pleasure from sex. There have been moments when the

> >desire really kicks in and it feels just great! Sometimes I feel

> >very close to normal.

> >

> >I think the fluctuations are still there, but now the drop is mild

> >and I have much longer periods of returning sexuality.

> >

> >I have no clue what caused this sudden progress. It could be the on-

> >off thing once again but now it's stronger than ever before. I'll

> >stay off the drugs and see what happens.

> >

> >Keeping my fingers crossed. Hope you do the same...

> >

> >Biker

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

> 1. Did you experience any improvements WHILE on the combo or did

it

> all come after stopping?

It all came after stopping the drugs. As I said I felt pretty

terrible while on the two drugs.

>

> 2. Do you think perhaps this combo helped to " jumpstart " your

system?

I think it's possible. I'm experiencing the strongest re-awakening

of sexuality since stopping ssri's.

>

> 3. Are you on any test. supplementation?

I'm not taking any added T or supplements aimed to add T. My free T,

total T and SHBG levels were taken two weeks ago and everything is

right in the middle of normal range.

I guess " fingring " the dopamine system with a d-agonist gives some

sort of wake-up call to the brain.

Biker

[Guest guest]

Hey Biker, great news. I really do think we need some sort of wake up

call with regard to dopamine. Another thing that leads me to believe

this is that when I took buspar for the second time I developed a

tremor in my hands, and that still hasn't gone away after almost 3

months, so it seems to me that buspar messed with my dopamine even

more. I feel like I'm going parkinsonian at age 22. I'm hoping that

the theory of tianeptine indirectly raising dopamine activity turns

out to be true...I may supplement it with dostinex or requip down the

road.

Whatever happened with your newspaper article?

>

> Hi guys,

>

> I've been very busy lately at work but I wanted to briefly share

the

> latest news.

>

> Abilify + Requip was a combo that didn't work. I felt quite

horrible

> in the end actually. I started having problems sleeping and as I

had

> stayed pretty much awake for four nights in a row I stopped both

> Requip and Abilify.

>

> It's been a week now and I still can't sleep properly.

>

> But the sex is good! =)

>

> The last three days have been great. Better than anything I've

> experienced since stopping SSRI's. Now I have a pretty constant

> libido and I get pleasure from sex. There have been moments when

the

> desire really kicks in and it feels just great! Sometimes I feel

> very close to normal.

>

> I think the fluctuations are still there, but now the drop is mild

> and I have much longer periods of returning sexuality.

>

> I have no clue what caused this sudden progress. It could be the on-

> off thing once again but now it's stronger than ever before. I'll

> stay off the drugs and see what happens.

>

> Keeping my fingers crossed. Hope you do the same...

>

> Biker

>

[Guest guest]

> I developed this unknown discomfort condition from trying herbs and supplemnt on below right rib cage.

Do you recall which herbs caused this problem? I ask because the same thing has happened to me while taking various supplement combos. I'm not sure if it's a kidney thing or what, but it's an ache right below the ribcage and on the side sometimes. Very strange...

[Guest guest]

> i tried requip and it sucked. i definitely think that taking other

strong

> drugs is only adding fuel to the fire. i dont see how other

psychtropic

> drugs could help psychtropic drug induced sexual dysfunction. we

need to

> detoxify our bodies not rid them with more mind and sex altering

chemicals.

>

I can totally agree with you 100%, I think these can do more harm

than help us but we can talk all day which is better method to

treating our problem. Since everyone responds to things differently

it seems its hard to say which treatment is the best. I myself

prefer to recover naturally like you but recovering naturally takes

patience and it may take who knows how long. And I dont think all

herbs are safe to take just because they are herbs or suppplement. I

developed this unknown discomfort condition from trying herbs and

supplemnt on below right rib cage. Anyways I think its great that

you are having sucess with maca/arginine. Sadly I think im gonna

take a break from the herbs because the discomfort intensifies when

I take combo of pills.

[Guest guest]

Unfortunatly I dont remember, I threw away the herb/supp, which I

regret doing. I wasnt really worried at the time because I thought it

was going to go away but its been almost a year now, wow how time

flies. Did you notice your urines turning very cloudy and heavy because

that how mine was everytime I took it.

>

> > I developed this unknown discomfort condition from trying herbs and

> supplemnt on below right rib cage.

>

> Do you recall which herbs caused this problem? I ask because the

same thing

> has happened to me while taking various supplement combos. I'm not

sure if

> it's a kidney thing or what, but it's an ache right below the ribcage

and on the

> side sometimes. Very strange...

>

[Guest guest]

> Did you notice your urines turning very cloudy and heavy because that how mine was everytime I took it.

Actually, my urine has been pretty coudy and frothy since I hit the skids 2 years ago. When I had a good period last spring i noticed it had cleared up a lot. I've been monitering the pH for a while and it's been very acidic. I've found that taking aminos seems to make it more alkaline. The sounds strange but it seems to be the case.

[Guest guest]

I've noticed some similar trends, although I haven't taken any herbs in

awhile. My urine is now always a really strong yellow color and very

pungent, which I think has been more pronounced since taking

supplements. I remember having pain in my very lower abdomen upon

stopping ginkgo, and then I started having bloody bowel movements for

awhile with a total loss of appetite, but I had digestive problems

before taking anything so it might have been my own body's reaction. I

never had pain around my rib cage though.

But I was wondering if anyone else has taken yohimbe regularly. I took

it every day for about two months when I was on buspar along with

ginkgo, fish oil, and a green foods supplement. Looking back, this

combo gave me the most libido since ssris, but things still weren't

right, so I quit taking most of those things. Now I actually wish I

hadn't taken yohimbe because I think my body got used to it and it

ended up making things worse. Also, I realize now that yohimbe is not a

safe herb to take often as it has been associated with kidney damage.

So I guess I wouldn't be surprised if other herbs could have a risk of

liver or kidney problems. Some herbs certainly aren't any less risky

than some prescription drugs, especially since they are unregulated.

I think that in my case, libido-enhancing supplements are a dead end

because they don't go to the root of the problem and they may even be

detrimental. I hope for others they can be more of a permanent solution.

>

> > Did you notice your urines turning very cloudy and heavy because

that how

> mine was everytime I took it.

>

> Actually, my urine has been pretty coudy and frothy since I hit the

skids 2

> years ago. When I had a good period last spring i noticed it had

cleared up a

> lot. I've been monitering the pH for a while and it's been very

acidic. I've

> found that taking aminos seems to make it more alkaline. The sounds

strange

> but it seems to be the case.

>

[Guest guest]

I actually had been thinking that the yohimbe in the vitamin/herbal formulation I was taking may have been the problem. I've taken tons of aminos on their own and pretty much every vitamin out there and never had a problem. You never know what you're getting with a lot of these herbals. Have you ever tried yohimbine instead of yohimbe? It's supposed to be safer and more standardized.