Re: Mag. Citrate

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The natural calm line is pretty good -- just make sure you dissolve in

HOT water. http://www.vitacost.com/GillhamNaturalCalm-SweetLemon

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> Been using Kirkman's Magnesium Citrate powder for awhile.

> Are there any other powders out there that you all like and are

> more effective? How about capsules?

> Thanks,

> Kathy

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Hi Kathy-- can she swallow a capsule/tablet? If so, buy a small container of the Benefiber TABLETS. This is something that helps Elora more so than the powdered Benefiber, I think in part that it contains silica as one of the ingredients, which helps make things a bit slick, but also, I think the capsule takes longer to dissolve in the digestive system and so it may just "stay around" longer to help make the bulk of her stool softer. If your dd can swallow it, and it is kind of a big tablet unfortunately, it might be worth trying one of them twice a day--once in the a.m., and one in the p.m. and see if it allows you to lessen the miralax a little bit. W Hudson wrote: Been using Kirkman's Magnesium Citrate powder for awhile. Are there any other powders out there that you all like and are more effective? How about capsules? Thanks, Kathy

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Forgot to mention -- I think the capsules of Soloray Cal-Mag citrate

are pretty good -- they are a 1-1 ratio. It depends on where you are

in the healing process -- you may need a 3-1 cal-mag ratio or a 1-3 --

or anything in between. This is my challenge too!

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> > Been using Kirkman's Magnesium Citrate powder for awhile.

> > Are there any other powders out there that you all like and are

> > more effective? How about capsules?

> > Thanks,

> > Kathy

> >

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Is this helping with constipation?

Re: Mag. Citrate

The natural calm line is pretty good -- just make sure you dissolve in HOT water. http://www.vitacost.com/GillhamNaturalCalm-SweetLemon--- In miralax , " Hudson" wrote:>> Been using Kirkman's Magnesium Citrate powder for awhile.> Are there any other powders out there that you all like and are > more effective? How about capsules?> Thanks,> Kathy>

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Thanks for hanging in with me !! My dd's issues seem to never change !

She can swallow capsules mixed in foods. I'll try those and see if they help.

Can you give me the website for the fiber juice again, thanks.................

Re: Mag. Citrate

Hi Kathy-- can she swallow a capsule/tablet? If so, buy a small container of the Benefiber TABLETS. This is something that helps Elora more so than the powdered Benefiber, I think in part that it contains silica as one of the ingredients, which helps make things a bit slick, but also, I think the capsule takes longer to dissolve in the digestive system and so it may just "stay around" longer to help make the bulk of her stool softer. If your dd can swallow it, and it is kind of a big tablet unfortunately, it might be worth trying one of them twice a day--once in the a.m., and one in the p.m. and see if it allows you to lessen the miralax a little bit.

W Hudson <jhud2earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Been using Kirkman's Magnesium Citrate powder for awhile.

Are there any other powders out there that you all like and are

more effective? How about capsules?

Thanks,

Kathy

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Yes -- but read these posts for more info. Yeast was an issue too.

I am planning on posting a systematic checklist for what works -- but

probably won't have time until after tax season.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/miralax/message/2152

2 other products that I didn't mention in the above posts was Kidlax

http://www.luckyvitamin.com/631257310903.html and Zand fiber

http://www.luckyvitamin.com/041954020775.html

They are helpful especially when fine tuning (the magnesium level)

and when I'm changing supplements and he doesn't have a BM one day I

add one Kidlax or 2 Zand capsules now to make sure things keep

moving. These are far superior to Benefiber, I believe.

I am so positive that Miralax is toxic that I keep visiting this

group from time to time tell our story. Thanks for starting it .

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> > Been using Kirkman's Magnesium Citrate powder for awhile.

> > Are there any other powders out there that you all like and are

> > more effective? How about capsules?

> > Thanks,

> > Kathy

> >

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Hi -- I think in our Files section on the board, or maybe it is the Links section, there might be one or two on the Juice Plus Fibre. Try doing a google search on it, spelled just like that, and you'll see a number of vendors. Shipping varies across the US so if you find one close to where you live, it may be a better deal. I don't know if she would be able to do the benefiber tablet mixed in with food... not sure... it is three fourths of an inch long. W Hudson wrote: Thanks for hanging in with me !! My dd's issues seem to never change ! She can swallow capsules mixed in foods. I'll try those and see if they help. Can you give me the website for the fiber juice again, thanks................. Re: Mag. Citrate Hi Kathy-- can she swallow a capsule/tablet? If so, buy a small container of the Benefiber TABLETS. This is something that helps Elora more so than the powdered Benefiber, I think in part that it contains silica as one of the ingredients, which helps make things a bit slick, but also, I think the capsule takes longer to dissolve in the digestive system and so it may just "stay around" longer to help make the bulk of her stool softer. If your dd can swallow it, and it is kind of a big tablet unfortunately, it might be worth trying one of them twice a day--once in the a.m., and one in the p.m. and see if it allows you to lessen the miralax a little bit. W Hudson <jhud2earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: Been using Kirkman's Magnesium Citrate powder for awhile. Are there any other powders out there that you all like and are more effective? How about capsules? Thanks, Kathy Never Miss an EmailStay connected with Yahoo! Mail on your mobile. Get started!

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Yes, the Zand fiber has different 'stuff' than the Benefiber... I think my dd is allergic to psylium husk though--every time I've tried something with it, she has hives. :-( And you're welcome for starting the board! I'm glad that it has become a supportive place for parents to find out different ways of dealing with constipation. W mommtlc wrote: Yes -- but read these posts for more info. Yeast was

an issue too. I am planning on posting a systematic checklist for what works -- but probably won't have time until after tax season.http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/miralax/message/21522 other products that I didn't mention in the above posts was Kidlaxhttp://www.luckyvitamin.com/631257310903.html and Zand fiber http://www.luckyvitamin.com/041954020775.htmlThey are helpful especially when fine tuning (the magnesium level) and when I'm changing supplements and he doesn't have a BM one day I add one Kidlax or 2 Zand capsules now to make sure things keep moving. These are far superior to Benefiber, I believe.I am so positive that Miralax is toxic that I keep visiting this

group from time to time tell our story. Thanks for starting it . > >> > Been using Kirkman's Magnesium Citrate powder for

awhile.> > Are there any other powders out there that you all like and are > > more effective? How about capsules?> > Thanks,> > Kathy> >>

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Hi , Today I ordered the Natural Calm, and also the Kidlax. Going to give

those a try and slowly wean down the Miralax......................

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks,

Kathy

Re: Mag. Citrate

Hi Kathy-- can she swallow a capsule/tablet? If so, buy a small container of the Benefiber TABLETS. This is something that helps Elora more so than the powdered Benefiber, I think in part that it contains silica as one of the ingredients, which helps make things a bit slick, but also, I think the capsule takes longer to dissolve in the digestive system and so it may just "stay around" longer to help make the bulk of her stool softer. If your dd can swallow it, and it is kind of a big tablet unfortunately, it might be worth trying one of them twice a day--once in the a.m., and one in the p.m. and see if it allows you to lessen the miralax a little bit.

W Hudson <jhud2earthlink (DOT) net> wrote:

Been using Kirkman's Magnesium Citrate powder for awhile.

Are there any other powders out there that you all like and are

more effective? How about capsules?

Thanks,

Kathy

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Thank you to both posts for the update! We also only use mag citrate occaisionally, infact any form of magnesium at that, usually as needed(typically more for seizure control), not daily(we do make sure to get in at least a couple of days a week if he seems it needs it(this has gotten his grand mals under control). Our 1st gastro had mentioned not to overdo the citrate form because it can be to acidic! Maybe this is some of the discomfort/irratibility mentioned?! On rare occaision if he had very severe backup, gastro ok'd on citrate cleanout(he said not more than about every 3months, if that). Havent needed the citrate cleanout since aloe dosage was figured out for backup and much easier to get in him! We found that aloe vera juice works the best (we do not do this daily either, only if needed). Our new gastro also mentioned that miralax can cause bloating/discomfort. Our 1st gastro(for 2yrs) never admitted to this. Yes, every child is different, but it

is great we can all share our experiences and try to figure this all out together! Jennie wrote: Thank you for the info!I have recently read at another group that mag citrate can causehyperactivity and other issues in some kids. I have started to worryabout my 3 year old (not autistic, but chronic constipation issues)because I was finally able to get him to accept mag citrate instead ofMOM but after a few weeks, I started to feel he was increasinglyirritable and more

prone to frustration/tantrums. I switched back toMOM, trying the original (mag hydroxide, water, and sodiumhyperchlorite) instead of the cherry flavor which has a bunch of otheringredients/chemicals. It's tasteless (to me) and I can mix it inwith juice in small increments and he seems to not notice. I havefelt that his irritability has already decreased in just a few days.I have also added aloe vera juice and that has allowed a lower dose ofMOM. Still doing Epsom salt baths too. (and probiotics and CLO)It does seem like many people have good success with mag citrate so I,too, am not trying to convince people not to use, just wanted to sharewhat I've seen in my son since trying mag citrate. Every child surelydifferently.>> Hi all,> We just came back from

Roanoke, Va. and saw Dr. Hart. (pediatric autism-friendly GI).> He was great and is giving a new treatment plan for Abby'sconstipation. He also scoped her and> between him and our DAN, blood work was drawn for PANDA's, immunepanels and others...............> the reason I'm emailing the group is to share what we learned. Agree or disagree, it's up to you but> I'm just putting it out there. > She has been on Lactulose since we stopped Miralax about 6 monthsago, as well as Mag. Citrate. > She has had tremendous tantrums off and on and bloating and stillcan go several days without a BM.> He said to STOP the Lactulose and Mag. Citrate immediately ! Lactulose causes excessive gas, bloating> and stomach pains and then he said the Mag. Citrate is like puttingsalt into a wound !> So therefore we were making her pain much worse !!!> He believes mag. sulfate is much more

gentle and recommends MOM,which I know a lot of you are already> using. Now we are doing MOM and senna liquid 3 x's a day. She hasgone everyday since we've been back > but am still crossing my fingers that this will work.> I'm not trying to stop you all from using the citrate, just thoughtif you have kids that have pain and tantrums> like mine that this could possibly be the reason for some. > Kathy H.> __________________________________________________

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Thanks for that. I do believe the reason why he wanted her off mag-

citrate is because laculose, works abotu the same as Miralax does,

and that is to " irritate " the intestines so they will have a BM. I've

also read that laculose does cause a heck of alot of bloating and

gas. So glad my son isn't on it. So, yep i could definately see how

the mag-citrate which is a saline osmotic would irriate the already

irriatate intestines more. But Mag-sulfat, mag-hydroide (the stuff

that is in MOM) and mag-citrate are all saline osomitic's just with a

different added agent to make absorbtion easier. Mag- sulfate is the

one that is given to ppl in preperation for colonoscopies to help

cleanse the colon completely, and i've read that it is the most

absorbed then the others. Here's a link that was put up a few days

ago here that tells you a wealth of great knowledge about Laxatives.

HTH

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laxative

I soo hope your little one feels better!

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> Hi all,

> We just came back from Roanoke, Va. and saw Dr. Hart. (

pediatric autism-friendly GI).

> He was great and is giving a new treatment plan for Abby's

constipation. He also scoped her and

> between him and our DAN, blood work was drawn for PANDA's, immune

panels and others...............

> the reason I'm emailing the group is to share what we learned.

Agree or disagree, it's up to you but

> I'm just putting it out there.

> She has been on Lactulose since we stopped Miralax about 6 months

ago, as well as Mag. Citrate.

> She has had tremendous tantrums off and on and bloating and still

can go several days without a BM.

> He said to STOP the Lactulose and Mag. Citrate immediately !

Lactulose causes excessive gas, bloating

> and stomach pains and then he said the Mag. Citrate is like putting

salt into a wound !

> So therefore we were making her pain much worse !!!

> He believes mag. sulfate is much more gentle and recommends MOM,

which I know a lot of you are already

> using. Now we are doing MOM and senna liquid 3 x's a day. She has

gone everyday since we've been back

> but am still crossing my fingers that this will work.

> I'm not trying to stop you all from using the citrate, just thought

if you have kids that have pain and tantrums

> like mine that this could possibly be the reason for some.

> Kathy H.

>