Guest guest Posted September 5, 2005 Report Share Posted September 5, 2005 Yeah, Bradford even lives here in San Diego, and that hasn't helped a whole lot. I have a friend who went to see him and I think he told her that what other docs were telling her were " parasites " definitely were NOT. I can't remember what he said they were. penny > > > > > > I know that instrument well, as I was hoping it was destined > > towards > > > australia.It was a live cell microscopy unit.I think basically > > > anyone doing this alternative thing was banged on the head and > > > possably rightfully so because everyone was putting there own > > story > > > on what was seen.You had one doctor in a lab saying he see's > > fungus, > > > the other would say spirochetes, the other bacteria/parasites > etc. > > > etc... The problem lies in the charlatanism that seems to carry > > it's > > > own dollar parasites into the autoimmune community.This is why > > it's > > > important for people to put to bed alot of the stuff like- YOUR > > > HERXING and get to the bottom of that period of declining > health > > > and try and put the right facts and figures on things and in > > > place.You see in a court if something is presented as 4 > different > > > things you'd expect this lack of science to be taken > critically, > > > and the safety is the devil we know option- that I'm sure will > win > > > out 9 times out of 10. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 BTW, darkfield is just a matter of adding the darkfield condenser. LOMO used to make one of the better ones, and for a reasonable price. There used to be a site at the University of Florida (I think) that had some very good tutorials on basic microscopy and equipment. Regarding the immersion oils, so true! Messed up a spring-loaded 100X objective, I think it ate the sealing surface. Some oils are acidic, I guess. > > > Harvey, many microscopes nowdays have provision for Phase-Contrast, > although a very few still do darkfield. Either will show crud in the > blood. > > The low-priced spread of microscopes: check out Edmond Scientific, > and > also google lab microscopes. The new low-end lab microscopes will run > under $1000, and if you want good optics, binocular or triocular (for > camera) view, and phase contrast, the prices go up. And up.. > > www.microscopestore.com has very low-cost " lab " microscopes, but > realistically, the difference between the $1000 lab scope and the > $10,000 lab scope is the optics, the quality of the carriage and the > other things it will do, like phase contrast or darkfield, cameras > etc > etc. Some of our lab scopes at work are in the hundreds of thousands > of > dollars because of all the other " stuff " that comes with them, laser > scanning systems and other goodies. And they require very specific > training on them before use - the wrong immersion oils can mess up > the > optics and even do damage. > > Others www.microscopeworld.com - triocular student university > microscopes with phase contrast around $2500. > > Darkfield is ok, but not really necessary. It's harder to do it well > and > costs more.. Most blood work can be done at 400x . > > I put together a Leitz lab microscope with triocular optics, video > camera, darkfield (which doesn't work very well) for around $2500 > from > ebay over maybe 2 years. Really, much better option is to buy what > you > want from a supplier, and get some training on how to setup and use > the > microscope. > > Dave > > > : > > You are The Man. > > I have watched this group for several years and see almost no work > being > done with dark fields which raises an interesting question. > > It does not matter if you are using frequency machines, Beck blood > purifiers, diet, detox programs or anything else where you are > attempting to improve health compared to " unhealthy " , your blood > should > show the effect. > > If you are in the middle of a herx, your blood should be full of die > off > critters. Many of the things that are being chased with frequency > therapy may be much larger than a virus and should be very easy to > see > in the blood with even a " yesteryear " dark field. If, when you start > a > treatment, your blood is full of floating " critters " and as you > continue > the treatment, you have a herx, your blood should get fuller of > " critters " . As the treatment works and your kill off is complete, > your > blood should lose a lot of trash and live " critters " still migrating > in > it as these will be filtered out by your organs. > > A dark field should show all of this happening. > > Why am I not seeing very much dark field work being done on even a > large > " critter " level in this group? > > Which raises the question: > > Is is strictly money that is nailing the door shut? If I want to buy > an > old dark field from yester years technology that may not have the > super > high magnification to see viruses clearly but will show this blood > condition of the normal blood cells and the larger " critters " : > > What brand and model and accessories do I look for and > > What should they costs on the used market. > > Am not seeing much on e-bay. Since this is your area, you are the > " Man " . > > Hook the group up for some cheap dark fields as they are flying > totally > blind and going on this " feel good " anecdotal evidence. With a dark > field, quick evidence may be in the bloodstream if they can afford > the > tool to look for it. I am hearing that new dark fields are getting > cheap. What about old dark fields that are being sold or traded in > when > the upgrade is taking place to your latest and greatest. > > Harvey in Houston > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 BTW, darkfield is just a matter of adding the darkfield condenser. LOMO used to make one of the better ones, and for a reasonable price. There used to be a site at the University of Florida (I think) that had some very good tutorials on basic microscopy and equipment. Regarding the immersion oils, so true! Messed up a spring-loaded 100X objective, I think it ate the sealing surface. Some oils are acidic, I guess. > > > Harvey, many microscopes nowdays have provision for Phase-Contrast, > although a very few still do darkfield. Either will show crud in the > blood. > > The low-priced spread of microscopes: check out Edmond Scientific, > and > also google lab microscopes. The new low-end lab microscopes will run > under $1000, and if you want good optics, binocular or triocular (for > camera) view, and phase contrast, the prices go up. And up.. > > www.microscopestore.com has very low-cost " lab " microscopes, but > realistically, the difference between the $1000 lab scope and the > $10,000 lab scope is the optics, the quality of the carriage and the > other things it will do, like phase contrast or darkfield, cameras > etc > etc. Some of our lab scopes at work are in the hundreds of thousands > of > dollars because of all the other " stuff " that comes with them, laser > scanning systems and other goodies. And they require very specific > training on them before use - the wrong immersion oils can mess up > the > optics and even do damage. > > Others www.microscopeworld.com - triocular student university > microscopes with phase contrast around $2500. > > Darkfield is ok, but not really necessary. It's harder to do it well > and > costs more.. Most blood work can be done at 400x . > > I put together a Leitz lab microscope with triocular optics, video > camera, darkfield (which doesn't work very well) for around $2500 > from > ebay over maybe 2 years. Really, much better option is to buy what > you > want from a supplier, and get some training on how to setup and use > the > microscope. > > Dave > > > : > > You are The Man. > > I have watched this group for several years and see almost no work > being > done with dark fields which raises an interesting question. > > It does not matter if you are using frequency machines, Beck blood > purifiers, diet, detox programs or anything else where you are > attempting to improve health compared to " unhealthy " , your blood > should > show the effect. > > If you are in the middle of a herx, your blood should be full of die > off > critters. Many of the things that are being chased with frequency > therapy may be much larger than a virus and should be very easy to > see > in the blood with even a " yesteryear " dark field. If, when you start > a > treatment, your blood is full of floating " critters " and as you > continue > the treatment, you have a herx, your blood should get fuller of > " critters " . As the treatment works and your kill off is complete, > your > blood should lose a lot of trash and live " critters " still migrating > in > it as these will be filtered out by your organs. > > A dark field should show all of this happening. > > Why am I not seeing very much dark field work being done on even a > large > " critter " level in this group? > > Which raises the question: > > Is is strictly money that is nailing the door shut? If I want to buy > an > old dark field from yester years technology that may not have the > super > high magnification to see viruses clearly but will show this blood > condition of the normal blood cells and the larger " critters " : > > What brand and model and accessories do I look for and > > What should they costs on the used market. > > Am not seeing much on e-bay. Since this is your area, you are the > " Man " . > > Hook the group up for some cheap dark fields as they are flying > totally > blind and going on this " feel good " anecdotal evidence. With a dark > field, quick evidence may be in the bloodstream if they can afford > the > tool to look for it. I am hearing that new dark fields are getting > cheap. What about old dark fields that are being sold or traded in > when > the upgrade is taking place to your latest and greatest. > > Harvey in Houston > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 BTW, darkfield is just a matter of adding the darkfield condenser. LOMO used to make one of the better ones, and for a reasonable price. There used to be a site at the University of Florida (I think) that had some very good tutorials on basic microscopy and equipment. Regarding the immersion oils, so true! Messed up a spring-loaded 100X objective, I think it ate the sealing surface. Some oils are acidic, I guess. > > > Harvey, many microscopes nowdays have provision for Phase-Contrast, > although a very few still do darkfield. Either will show crud in the > blood. > > The low-priced spread of microscopes: check out Edmond Scientific, > and > also google lab microscopes. The new low-end lab microscopes will run > under $1000, and if you want good optics, binocular or triocular (for > camera) view, and phase contrast, the prices go up. And up.. > > www.microscopestore.com has very low-cost " lab " microscopes, but > realistically, the difference between the $1000 lab scope and the > $10,000 lab scope is the optics, the quality of the carriage and the > other things it will do, like phase contrast or darkfield, cameras > etc > etc. Some of our lab scopes at work are in the hundreds of thousands > of > dollars because of all the other " stuff " that comes with them, laser > scanning systems and other goodies. And they require very specific > training on them before use - the wrong immersion oils can mess up > the > optics and even do damage. > > Others www.microscopeworld.com - triocular student university > microscopes with phase contrast around $2500. > > Darkfield is ok, but not really necessary. It's harder to do it well > and > costs more.. Most blood work can be done at 400x . > > I put together a Leitz lab microscope with triocular optics, video > camera, darkfield (which doesn't work very well) for around $2500 > from > ebay over maybe 2 years. Really, much better option is to buy what > you > want from a supplier, and get some training on how to setup and use > the > microscope. > > Dave > > > : > > You are The Man. > > I have watched this group for several years and see almost no work > being > done with dark fields which raises an interesting question. > > It does not matter if you are using frequency machines, Beck blood > purifiers, diet, detox programs or anything else where you are > attempting to improve health compared to " unhealthy " , your blood > should > show the effect. > > If you are in the middle of a herx, your blood should be full of die > off > critters. Many of the things that are being chased with frequency > therapy may be much larger than a virus and should be very easy to > see > in the blood with even a " yesteryear " dark field. If, when you start > a > treatment, your blood is full of floating " critters " and as you > continue > the treatment, you have a herx, your blood should get fuller of > " critters " . As the treatment works and your kill off is complete, > your > blood should lose a lot of trash and live " critters " still migrating > in > it as these will be filtered out by your organs. > > A dark field should show all of this happening. > > Why am I not seeing very much dark field work being done on even a > large > " critter " level in this group? > > Which raises the question: > > Is is strictly money that is nailing the door shut? If I want to buy > an > old dark field from yester years technology that may not have the > super > high magnification to see viruses clearly but will show this blood > condition of the normal blood cells and the larger " critters " : > > What brand and model and accessories do I look for and > > What should they costs on the used market. > > Am not seeing much on e-bay. Since this is your area, you are the > " Man " . > > Hook the group up for some cheap dark fields as they are flying > totally > blind and going on this " feel good " anecdotal evidence. With a dark > field, quick evidence may be in the bloodstream if they can afford > the > tool to look for it. I am hearing that new dark fields are getting > cheap. What about old dark fields that are being sold or traded in > when > the upgrade is taking place to your latest and greatest. > > Harvey in Houston > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Hi Harvey, Although I do market the Ergonom microscope, I do not do much microscope work myself. If any questions come up I cannot answer, I always refer those questions on to Kurt Olbrich (my microscope experience is nothing compared to the 37 years he has). Although the Ergonom can work in Darkfield mode, its own Grayfield contrast method is far superior providing a full contrast colour image as opposed to basically an outline as seen in darkfield. In regard to your question, I have seen an excellent video made by a German naturopath called Alan E. Baklayan who has produced an interesting German language DVD video called " Blutparasiten " (German for blood parasites). It has been a while since I have seen that film, so I do not want to say anything wrong from memory. If I get some time, I will watch it again and tell you some more. You will find much more discussion on microscope research and Rife in the Rife Forum. Holland has done some excellent work. Regards Moderator > > : > > You are The Man. > > I have watched this group for several years and see almost no work being done with dark fields which raises an interesting question. > > It does not matter if you are using frequency machines, Beck blood purifiers, diet, detox programs or anything else where you are attempting to improve health compared to " unhealthy " , your blood should show the effect. > > If you are in the middle of a herx, your blood should be full of die off critters. Many of the things that are being chased with frequency therapy may be much larger than a virus and should be very easy to see in the blood with even a " yesteryear " dark field. If, when you start a treatment, your blood is full of floating " critters " and as you continue the treatment, you have a herx, your blood should get fuller of " critters " . As the treatment works and your kill off is complete, your blood should lose a lot of trash and live " critters " still migrating in it as these will be filtered out by your organs. > > A dark field should show all of this happening. > > Why am I not seeing very much dark field work being done on even a large " critter " level in this group? > > Which raises the question: > > Is is strictly money that is nailing the door shut? If I want to buy an old dark field from yester years technology that may not have the super high magnification to see viruses clearly but will show this blood condition of the normal blood cells and the larger " critters " : > > What brand and model and accessories do I look for and > > What should they costs on the used market. > > Am not seeing much on e-bay. Since this is your area, you are the " Man " . > > Hook the group up for some cheap dark fields as they are flying totally blind and going on this " feel good " anecdotal evidence. With a dark field, quick evidence may be in the bloodstream if they can afford the tool to look for it. I am hearing that new dark fields are getting cheap. What about old dark fields that are being sold or traded in when the upgrade is taking place to your latest and greatest. > > Harvey in Houston > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Hi Harvey, Although I do market the Ergonom microscope, I do not do much microscope work myself. If any questions come up I cannot answer, I always refer those questions on to Kurt Olbrich (my microscope experience is nothing compared to the 37 years he has). Although the Ergonom can work in Darkfield mode, its own Grayfield contrast method is far superior providing a full contrast colour image as opposed to basically an outline as seen in darkfield. In regard to your question, I have seen an excellent video made by a German naturopath called Alan E. Baklayan who has produced an interesting German language DVD video called " Blutparasiten " (German for blood parasites). It has been a while since I have seen that film, so I do not want to say anything wrong from memory. If I get some time, I will watch it again and tell you some more. You will find much more discussion on microscope research and Rife in the Rife Forum. Holland has done some excellent work. Regards Moderator > > : > > You are The Man. > > I have watched this group for several years and see almost no work being done with dark fields which raises an interesting question. > > It does not matter if you are using frequency machines, Beck blood purifiers, diet, detox programs or anything else where you are attempting to improve health compared to " unhealthy " , your blood should show the effect. > > If you are in the middle of a herx, your blood should be full of die off critters. Many of the things that are being chased with frequency therapy may be much larger than a virus and should be very easy to see in the blood with even a " yesteryear " dark field. If, when you start a treatment, your blood is full of floating " critters " and as you continue the treatment, you have a herx, your blood should get fuller of " critters " . As the treatment works and your kill off is complete, your blood should lose a lot of trash and live " critters " still migrating in it as these will be filtered out by your organs. > > A dark field should show all of this happening. > > Why am I not seeing very much dark field work being done on even a large " critter " level in this group? > > Which raises the question: > > Is is strictly money that is nailing the door shut? If I want to buy an old dark field from yester years technology that may not have the super high magnification to see viruses clearly but will show this blood condition of the normal blood cells and the larger " critters " : > > What brand and model and accessories do I look for and > > What should they costs on the used market. > > Am not seeing much on e-bay. Since this is your area, you are the " Man " . > > Hook the group up for some cheap dark fields as they are flying totally blind and going on this " feel good " anecdotal evidence. With a dark field, quick evidence may be in the bloodstream if they can afford the tool to look for it. I am hearing that new dark fields are getting cheap. What about old dark fields that are being sold or traded in when the upgrade is taking place to your latest and greatest. > > Harvey in Houston > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Hi Harvey, Although I do market the Ergonom microscope, I do not do much microscope work myself. If any questions come up I cannot answer, I always refer those questions on to Kurt Olbrich (my microscope experience is nothing compared to the 37 years he has). Although the Ergonom can work in Darkfield mode, its own Grayfield contrast method is far superior providing a full contrast colour image as opposed to basically an outline as seen in darkfield. In regard to your question, I have seen an excellent video made by a German naturopath called Alan E. Baklayan who has produced an interesting German language DVD video called " Blutparasiten " (German for blood parasites). It has been a while since I have seen that film, so I do not want to say anything wrong from memory. If I get some time, I will watch it again and tell you some more. You will find much more discussion on microscope research and Rife in the Rife Forum. Holland has done some excellent work. Regards Moderator > > : > > You are The Man. > > I have watched this group for several years and see almost no work being done with dark fields which raises an interesting question. > > It does not matter if you are using frequency machines, Beck blood purifiers, diet, detox programs or anything else where you are attempting to improve health compared to " unhealthy " , your blood should show the effect. > > If you are in the middle of a herx, your blood should be full of die off critters. Many of the things that are being chased with frequency therapy may be much larger than a virus and should be very easy to see in the blood with even a " yesteryear " dark field. If, when you start a treatment, your blood is full of floating " critters " and as you continue the treatment, you have a herx, your blood should get fuller of " critters " . As the treatment works and your kill off is complete, your blood should lose a lot of trash and live " critters " still migrating in it as these will be filtered out by your organs. > > A dark field should show all of this happening. > > Why am I not seeing very much dark field work being done on even a large " critter " level in this group? > > Which raises the question: > > Is is strictly money that is nailing the door shut? If I want to buy an old dark field from yester years technology that may not have the super high magnification to see viruses clearly but will show this blood condition of the normal blood cells and the larger " critters " : > > What brand and model and accessories do I look for and > > What should they costs on the used market. > > Am not seeing much on e-bay. Since this is your area, you are the " Man " . > > Hook the group up for some cheap dark fields as they are flying totally blind and going on this " feel good " anecdotal evidence. With a dark field, quick evidence may be in the bloodstream if they can afford the tool to look for it. I am hearing that new dark fields are getting cheap. What about old dark fields that are being sold or traded in when the upgrade is taking place to your latest and greatest. > > Harvey in Houston > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 : I have signed on to the dark field group ( appears to be general microscope area) and it looks as if dark field is easy to get. In fact, I have even seen two websites where you make your own dark field adapter. If you want to do open heart surgery on yourself while watching TV, someone on the NET will tell you exactly how to do it. It also looks as if you can spend under a thou on 30 or 40 year old German on Japanese scopes that were great in their time and are still great in the optics area as optics are like diamonds " forever " . This leads me to believe that a tremendous amount of blood info can be obtained with equipment for under 2 thou and maybe under 1 thou. I will be chasing this idea in the future as I do not need to be spotting viruses. I need to see if I am cleaning up my blood by whatever I change. I would think the Rife group would be chasing the same idea as " the surroundings are everything " and the living virus you are trying to kill like cancer with frequency therapy is a grain of sand on the beach. You clean up the beach and they all die as they all love acid Ph and they all love no oxygen. If you stroll on the beach and stumble over a cancer cell and do not look beyond your nose, you may think the beach is littered with cancer. If you look at 10 square miles of beach and find nothing in large parasites that are alive while there were a whole bunch of lively " critters " a week ago, you might conclude that maybe even the cancer cells did not survive. McCabe even discusses " black blood " coming out of very sick people and " bright red " blood coming out of very healthy people. It would appear that very low power by your standards (400 and under) in dark field may be a wonderful tool to check health or lack thereof. I have no idea if Indian scopes are junk or jewels but you can buy the world over there for a thousand dollars. If you look at a labor rate of 1/10 of US or German, cost of raw materials is not where the money is so: They could come up with a very good lab scope to do what I want to do for under a thou brand new. I have no feedback on scopes coming out China, Korea, India or other very low labor countries. However, machine tools in US were revolutionized 25 years ago by cheap precision machine tools coming out of China. We instantly saw better milling machines with closer tolerances for half the money compared to US. This same type of precision is required to put together a scope. Optics are another ball game but I would also bet that this is a very labor intensive area where the idea can be stolen and the product duplicated if you have very cheap labor. Diamonds are another very labor intensive area and diamond grinding was being done in India big time with thousands of layoffs recently. If they can cut and grind diamonds, they can make optics. You pull all of the labor cost out of a German $10,000 lab scope and you may have $50 in materials or less. Labor is why the US is dying. We cannot make anything cheaper anymore as we think we are a think tank but no one pays much for ideas unless you are a Microsoft addict and most Americans are even getting tired of software " downgrades " that run slower, give more problems and are obsolete faster than their old operating system. I would appear that US, German and Japanese engineering will soon be producing things in China, India and other low labor countries. This may be where the scope business ends up and if, so, good scopes will get very cheap. Will keep you posted if I see any Eurekas out there but will bet a 40 year old German scope with a dark field attachment will do a lot of work in this area for not a lot of money. I will have to look for scope info in English as, even though I had to have two semesters of German translation, when I wanted something read and understood, I still hired a translator as them nimble German verbs kept running and hiding and I kept finding them clear at the end of the sentence. Harvey wrote: > > > Hi Harvey, > Although I do market the Ergonom microscope, I do not do much > microscope work myself. If any questions come up I cannot answer, I > always refer those questions on to Kurt Olbrich (my microscope > experience is nothing compared to the 37 years he has). > > Although the Ergonom can work in Darkfield mode, its own Grayfield > contrast method is far superior providing a full contrast colour image > as opposed to basically an outline as seen in darkfield. > > In regard to your question, I have seen an excellent video made by a > German naturopath called Alan E. Baklayan who has produced an > interesting German language DVD video called " Blutparasiten " (German > for blood parasites). > > It has been a while since I have seen that film, so I do not want to > say anything wrong from memory. If I get some time, I will watch it > again and tell you some more. > > You will find much more discussion on microscope research and Rife in > the Rife Forum. Holland has done some excellent work. > > Regards > > > Moderator > > > > > > : > > > > You are The Man. > > > > I have watched this group for several years and see almost no work > being done with dark fields which raises an interesting question. > > > > It does not matter if you are using frequency machines, Beck blood > purifiers, diet, detox programs or anything else where you are > attempting to improve health compared to " unhealthy " , your blood > should show the effect. > > > > If you are in the middle of a herx, your blood should be full of die > off critters. Many of the things that are being chased with frequency > therapy may be much larger than a virus and should be very easy to see > in the blood with even a " yesteryear " dark field. If, when you start a > treatment, your blood is full of floating " critters " and as you > continue the treatment, you have a herx, your blood should get fuller > of " critters " . As the treatment works and your kill off is complete, > your blood should lose a lot of trash and live " critters " still > migrating in it as these will be filtered out by your organs. > > > > A dark field should show all of this happening. > > > > Why am I not seeing very much dark field work being done on even a > large " critter " level in this group? > > > > Which raises the question: > > > > Is is strictly money that is nailing the door shut? If I want to buy > an old dark field from yester years technology that may not have the > super high magnification to see viruses clearly but will show this > blood condition of the normal blood cells and the larger " critters " : > > > > What brand and model and accessories do I look for and > > > > What should they costs on the used market. > > > > Am not seeing much on e-bay. Since this is your area, you are the " Man " . > > > > Hook the group up for some cheap dark fields as they are flying > totally blind and going on this " feel good " anecdotal evidence. With a > dark field, quick evidence may be in the bloodstream if they can > afford the tool to look for it. I am hearing that new dark fields are > getting cheap. What about old dark fields that are being sold or > traded in when the upgrade is taking place to your latest and greatest. > > > > Harvey in Houston > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 : I have signed on to the dark field group ( appears to be general microscope area) and it looks as if dark field is easy to get. In fact, I have even seen two websites where you make your own dark field adapter. If you want to do open heart surgery on yourself while watching TV, someone on the NET will tell you exactly how to do it. It also looks as if you can spend under a thou on 30 or 40 year old German on Japanese scopes that were great in their time and are still great in the optics area as optics are like diamonds " forever " . This leads me to believe that a tremendous amount of blood info can be obtained with equipment for under 2 thou and maybe under 1 thou. I will be chasing this idea in the future as I do not need to be spotting viruses. I need to see if I am cleaning up my blood by whatever I change. I would think the Rife group would be chasing the same idea as " the surroundings are everything " and the living virus you are trying to kill like cancer with frequency therapy is a grain of sand on the beach. You clean up the beach and they all die as they all love acid Ph and they all love no oxygen. If you stroll on the beach and stumble over a cancer cell and do not look beyond your nose, you may think the beach is littered with cancer. If you look at 10 square miles of beach and find nothing in large parasites that are alive while there were a whole bunch of lively " critters " a week ago, you might conclude that maybe even the cancer cells did not survive. McCabe even discusses " black blood " coming out of very sick people and " bright red " blood coming out of very healthy people. It would appear that very low power by your standards (400 and under) in dark field may be a wonderful tool to check health or lack thereof. I have no idea if Indian scopes are junk or jewels but you can buy the world over there for a thousand dollars. If you look at a labor rate of 1/10 of US or German, cost of raw materials is not where the money is so: They could come up with a very good lab scope to do what I want to do for under a thou brand new. I have no feedback on scopes coming out China, Korea, India or other very low labor countries. However, machine tools in US were revolutionized 25 years ago by cheap precision machine tools coming out of China. We instantly saw better milling machines with closer tolerances for half the money compared to US. This same type of precision is required to put together a scope. Optics are another ball game but I would also bet that this is a very labor intensive area where the idea can be stolen and the product duplicated if you have very cheap labor. Diamonds are another very labor intensive area and diamond grinding was being done in India big time with thousands of layoffs recently. If they can cut and grind diamonds, they can make optics. You pull all of the labor cost out of a German $10,000 lab scope and you may have $50 in materials or less. Labor is why the US is dying. We cannot make anything cheaper anymore as we think we are a think tank but no one pays much for ideas unless you are a Microsoft addict and most Americans are even getting tired of software " downgrades " that run slower, give more problems and are obsolete faster than their old operating system. I would appear that US, German and Japanese engineering will soon be producing things in China, India and other low labor countries. This may be where the scope business ends up and if, so, good scopes will get very cheap. Will keep you posted if I see any Eurekas out there but will bet a 40 year old German scope with a dark field attachment will do a lot of work in this area for not a lot of money. I will have to look for scope info in English as, even though I had to have two semesters of German translation, when I wanted something read and understood, I still hired a translator as them nimble German verbs kept running and hiding and I kept finding them clear at the end of the sentence. Harvey wrote: > > > Hi Harvey, > Although I do market the Ergonom microscope, I do not do much > microscope work myself. If any questions come up I cannot answer, I > always refer those questions on to Kurt Olbrich (my microscope > experience is nothing compared to the 37 years he has). > > Although the Ergonom can work in Darkfield mode, its own Grayfield > contrast method is far superior providing a full contrast colour image > as opposed to basically an outline as seen in darkfield. > > In regard to your question, I have seen an excellent video made by a > German naturopath called Alan E. Baklayan who has produced an > interesting German language DVD video called " Blutparasiten " (German > for blood parasites). > > It has been a while since I have seen that film, so I do not want to > say anything wrong from memory. If I get some time, I will watch it > again and tell you some more. > > You will find much more discussion on microscope research and Rife in > the Rife Forum. Holland has done some excellent work. > > Regards > > > Moderator > > > > > > : > > > > You are The Man. > > > > I have watched this group for several years and see almost no work > being done with dark fields which raises an interesting question. > > > > It does not matter if you are using frequency machines, Beck blood > purifiers, diet, detox programs or anything else where you are > attempting to improve health compared to " unhealthy " , your blood > should show the effect. > > > > If you are in the middle of a herx, your blood should be full of die > off critters. Many of the things that are being chased with frequency > therapy may be much larger than a virus and should be very easy to see > in the blood with even a " yesteryear " dark field. If, when you start a > treatment, your blood is full of floating " critters " and as you > continue the treatment, you have a herx, your blood should get fuller > of " critters " . As the treatment works and your kill off is complete, > your blood should lose a lot of trash and live " critters " still > migrating in it as these will be filtered out by your organs. > > > > A dark field should show all of this happening. > > > > Why am I not seeing very much dark field work being done on even a > large " critter " level in this group? > > > > Which raises the question: > > > > Is is strictly money that is nailing the door shut? If I want to buy > an old dark field from yester years technology that may not have the > super high magnification to see viruses clearly but will show this > blood condition of the normal blood cells and the larger " critters " : > > > > What brand and model and accessories do I look for and > > > > What should they costs on the used market. > > > > Am not seeing much on e-bay. Since this is your area, you are the " Man " . > > > > Hook the group up for some cheap dark fields as they are flying > totally blind and going on this " feel good " anecdotal evidence. With a > dark field, quick evidence may be in the bloodstream if they can > afford the tool to look for it. I am hearing that new dark fields are > getting cheap. What about old dark fields that are being sold or > traded in when the upgrade is taking place to your latest and greatest. > > > > Harvey in Houston > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 : I have signed on to the dark field group ( appears to be general microscope area) and it looks as if dark field is easy to get. In fact, I have even seen two websites where you make your own dark field adapter. If you want to do open heart surgery on yourself while watching TV, someone on the NET will tell you exactly how to do it. It also looks as if you can spend under a thou on 30 or 40 year old German on Japanese scopes that were great in their time and are still great in the optics area as optics are like diamonds " forever " . This leads me to believe that a tremendous amount of blood info can be obtained with equipment for under 2 thou and maybe under 1 thou. I will be chasing this idea in the future as I do not need to be spotting viruses. I need to see if I am cleaning up my blood by whatever I change. I would think the Rife group would be chasing the same idea as " the surroundings are everything " and the living virus you are trying to kill like cancer with frequency therapy is a grain of sand on the beach. You clean up the beach and they all die as they all love acid Ph and they all love no oxygen. If you stroll on the beach and stumble over a cancer cell and do not look beyond your nose, you may think the beach is littered with cancer. If you look at 10 square miles of beach and find nothing in large parasites that are alive while there were a whole bunch of lively " critters " a week ago, you might conclude that maybe even the cancer cells did not survive. McCabe even discusses " black blood " coming out of very sick people and " bright red " blood coming out of very healthy people. It would appear that very low power by your standards (400 and under) in dark field may be a wonderful tool to check health or lack thereof. I have no idea if Indian scopes are junk or jewels but you can buy the world over there for a thousand dollars. If you look at a labor rate of 1/10 of US or German, cost of raw materials is not where the money is so: They could come up with a very good lab scope to do what I want to do for under a thou brand new. I have no feedback on scopes coming out China, Korea, India or other very low labor countries. However, machine tools in US were revolutionized 25 years ago by cheap precision machine tools coming out of China. We instantly saw better milling machines with closer tolerances for half the money compared to US. This same type of precision is required to put together a scope. Optics are another ball game but I would also bet that this is a very labor intensive area where the idea can be stolen and the product duplicated if you have very cheap labor. Diamonds are another very labor intensive area and diamond grinding was being done in India big time with thousands of layoffs recently. If they can cut and grind diamonds, they can make optics. You pull all of the labor cost out of a German $10,000 lab scope and you may have $50 in materials or less. Labor is why the US is dying. We cannot make anything cheaper anymore as we think we are a think tank but no one pays much for ideas unless you are a Microsoft addict and most Americans are even getting tired of software " downgrades " that run slower, give more problems and are obsolete faster than their old operating system. I would appear that US, German and Japanese engineering will soon be producing things in China, India and other low labor countries. This may be where the scope business ends up and if, so, good scopes will get very cheap. Will keep you posted if I see any Eurekas out there but will bet a 40 year old German scope with a dark field attachment will do a lot of work in this area for not a lot of money. I will have to look for scope info in English as, even though I had to have two semesters of German translation, when I wanted something read and understood, I still hired a translator as them nimble German verbs kept running and hiding and I kept finding them clear at the end of the sentence. Harvey wrote: > > > Hi Harvey, > Although I do market the Ergonom microscope, I do not do much > microscope work myself. If any questions come up I cannot answer, I > always refer those questions on to Kurt Olbrich (my microscope > experience is nothing compared to the 37 years he has). > > Although the Ergonom can work in Darkfield mode, its own Grayfield > contrast method is far superior providing a full contrast colour image > as opposed to basically an outline as seen in darkfield. > > In regard to your question, I have seen an excellent video made by a > German naturopath called Alan E. Baklayan who has produced an > interesting German language DVD video called " Blutparasiten " (German > for blood parasites). > > It has been a while since I have seen that film, so I do not want to > say anything wrong from memory. If I get some time, I will watch it > again and tell you some more. > > You will find much more discussion on microscope research and Rife in > the Rife Forum. Holland has done some excellent work. > > Regards > > > Moderator > > > > > > : > > > > You are The Man. > > > > I have watched this group for several years and see almost no work > being done with dark fields which raises an interesting question. > > > > It does not matter if you are using frequency machines, Beck blood > purifiers, diet, detox programs or anything else where you are > attempting to improve health compared to " unhealthy " , your blood > should show the effect. > > > > If you are in the middle of a herx, your blood should be full of die > off critters. Many of the things that are being chased with frequency > therapy may be much larger than a virus and should be very easy to see > in the blood with even a " yesteryear " dark field. If, when you start a > treatment, your blood is full of floating " critters " and as you > continue the treatment, you have a herx, your blood should get fuller > of " critters " . As the treatment works and your kill off is complete, > your blood should lose a lot of trash and live " critters " still > migrating in it as these will be filtered out by your organs. > > > > A dark field should show all of this happening. > > > > Why am I not seeing very much dark field work being done on even a > large " critter " level in this group? > > > > Which raises the question: > > > > Is is strictly money that is nailing the door shut? If I want to buy > an old dark field from yester years technology that may not have the > super high magnification to see viruses clearly but will show this > blood condition of the normal blood cells and the larger " critters " : > > > > What brand and model and accessories do I look for and > > > > What should they costs on the used market. > > > > Am not seeing much on e-bay. Since this is your area, you are the " Man " . > > > > Hook the group up for some cheap dark fields as they are flying > totally blind and going on this " feel good " anecdotal evidence. With a > dark field, quick evidence may be in the bloodstream if they can > afford the tool to look for it. I am hearing that new dark fields are > getting cheap. What about old dark fields that are being sold or > traded in when the upgrade is taking place to your latest and greatest. > > > > Harvey in Houston > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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