Re: Re: Nelly & Faecal probiotics

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Thanks Tony, I think we all NEEDED that!!

I wonder why the world thinks Australian society is GROSS!!

Nelly

[infections] Re: Nelly & Faecal probiotics

JillI was just getting over learning about golden showers and has hit us with this fecal thing. Actually I do remember an incident at a factory I visited wherby one worker had a fetish for this eating stools thing, one of the fellow workers gave him a brown paper bag lunch still steaming.YUKKKK...

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No worries, Jill, that sort of things doesn't worry me. I wish I could be as dogmatic as some, who obviously have all the answers!

Nelly

Re: [infections] Nelly & Faecal probiotics> > > >No i'm not activly doing anything towards fecal probiotics .For a start I> dont think the captuals will be >effective ...I think maybe live cultures> are the way to go .....> > >Processing the bacteria making it into a capsule form will almost> certainly compromise that coat ..> > ,> > So, let's sum this up: you were just telling me to follow some healthy> looking human specimen and ...eat his/her poo-poo ?)) The way doggies and> piggies do? )> > You start, , then I'll see what I decide!!> > Nelly> > > > > Resembling human faecal flora is missing the point.....If we accept that> faecal transfers are effective because they carry the all important> recognition protein ...that protein marks out the bacteria as self [how else> can host microbes remain unmolested by the IS] Then it's essential that the> protein is preserved.Processing the bacteria making it into a capsule form> will almost certainly compromise that coat ...As FP do multiply in the gut> can we then assume the recognition protein is imparted to the multiplying> microbes.> I was hoping to get a doctor interested , get some testing underway ,> but as yet no success ..> > > >

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Jill ,bless, Isn't Nelly the "tried it all queen"? her posts scream what's next... Nelly is bankrupt, that's not being nasty that's a realistic assessment of Nelly's position ... I would argue that bringing any intelligent discussion to an end with the poo-poo thing is making valiant efforts to research & learn....sbo's? I'm still researching FP myself ..I will try them ...it does depend if I can get a few answers to some to me obvious questions ..I have already contacted one doctor in the hope I could get the ball rolling , with no success ...Im keen on this because it is potentially the most beneficial therapy for the least risk, in short It could be the key factor in regaining health .

Re: [infections] Nelly & Faecal probiotics> > > >No i'm not activly doing anything towards fecal probiotics .For a start I> dont think the captuals will be >effective ...I think maybe live cultures> are the way to go .....> > >Processing the bacteria making it into a capsule form will almost> certainly compromise that coat ..> > ,> > So, let's sum this up: you were just telling me to follow some healthy> looking human specimen and ...eat his/her poo-poo ?)) The way doggies and> piggies do? )> > You start, , then I'll see what I decide!!> > Nelly> > > > > Resembling human faecal flora is missing the point.....If we accept that> faecal transfers are effective because they carry the all important> recognition protein ...that protein marks out the bacteria as self [how else> can host microbes remain unmolested by the IS] Then it's essential that the> protein is preserved.Processing the bacteria making it into a capsule form> will almost certainly compromise that coat ...As FP do multiply in the gut> can we then assume the recognition protein is imparted to the multiplying> microbes.> I was hoping to get a doctor interested , get some testing underway ,> but as yet no success ..> > > >

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OK Nelly's at a loss as to what to do next ...How's that

Re: [infections] Nelly & Faecal probiotics> >> >> > >No i'm not activly doing anything towards fecal probiotics .For> a start I> > dont think the captuals will be >effective ...I think maybe live> cultures> > are the way to go .....> >> > >Processing the bacteria making it into a capsule form will almost> > certainly compromise that coat ..> >> > ,> >> > So, let's sum this up: you were just telling me to follow some> healthy> > looking human specimen and ...eat his/her poo-poo ?)) The way> doggies and> > piggies do? )> >> > You start, , then I'll see what I decide!!> >> > Nelly> >> >> >> >> > Resembling human faecal flora is missing the point.....If we> accept that> > faecal transfers are effective because they carry the all important> > recognition protein ...that protein marks out the bacteria as self> [how else> > can host microbes remain unmolested by the IS] Then it's essential> that the> > protein is preserved.Processing the bacteria making it into a> capsule form> > will almost certainly compromise that coat ...As FP do multiply in> the gut> > can we then assume the recognition protein is imparted to the> multiplying> > microbes.> > I was hoping to get a doctor interested , get some testing> underway ,> > but as yet no success ..> >> >> >> >

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No offense meant, guys and gals, but could we change the heading of this topic, I cringe every time I see it "Nelly and faecal probiotics" sounds like a X-rated kinky, kinky movie:)))

Thanks Barb, yes it's true reading that I am bankrupt is not pleasant but it doesn't bother me, I know I am still trying things, and I haven(t tried everything in every area but in the "treat the yeast area" I have (apart from the faecal probiotics of course).

Nelly (minus the faecal probiotics-except the ones I am managing to produce me, myself, personally in the privacy of my own bowels)

Re: [infections] Nelly & Faecal probiotics> >> >> > >No i'm not activly doing anything towards fecal probiotics .For> a start I> > dont think the captuals will be >effective ...I think maybe live> cultures> > are the way to go .....> >> > >Processing the bacteria making it into a capsule form will almost> > certainly compromise that coat ..> >> > ,> >> > So, let's sum this up: you were just telling me to follow some> healthy> > looking human specimen and ...eat his/her poo-poo ?)) The way> doggies and> > piggies do? )> >> > You start, , then I'll see what I decide!!> >> > Nelly> >> >> >> >> > Resembling human faecal flora is missing the point.....If we> accept that> > faecal transfers are effective because they carry the all important> > recognition protein ...that protein marks out the bacteria as self> [how else> > can host microbes remain unmolested by the IS] Then it's essential> that the> > protein is preserved.Processing the bacteria making it into a> capsule form> > will almost certainly compromise that coat ...As FP do multiply in> the gut> > can we then assume the recognition protein is imparted to the> multiplying> > microbes.> > I was hoping to get a doctor interested , get some testing> underway ,> > but as yet no success ..> >> >> >> >