Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Hi, bleu. The FDA now allows tryptophan to be sold for human use without a prescription, but they require that the supplier have evidence that their product is safe: http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/ds-tryp1.html I suspect that the supplement manufacturers may be intimidated by this, so that not many are supplying tryptophan. I think there are still limits on importing tryptophan, though, according to the notice at the above url. Tryptophan is available on the internet. One company sells it for veterinary use, and says openly on their site that they sell the identically same product for human use, with a prescription! I think they figure that people will read between the lines, order the veterinary product, and take it themselves, leaving the company off the hook as far as risking that the FDA might come after them for proof that their product is safe for human use. Very clever! Rich > Does anyone know a good supplier of L-Tryptophan. > > It would appear it could be a substantial supplement to promote sleep > and relieve constipation and IBS. > > BTW I know it is not approved by the FDA as a supplement. But it is > available. > > has anyone tried it? > > bleu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 And that is what happens all the time- more thn you think. There's quite a bit of info out there on the use of trypto in horses- it was used mainly to calm down an excited horse or a horse that got agitated in new surroundings.. competitition rules prohibit alot of drugs in horses- so trainers find ways to get around it. I'm not sure it's used anymore- but can't really remember why.. Barb > > Does anyone know a good supplier of L-Tryptophan. > > > > It would appear it could be a substantial supplement to promote > sleep > > and relieve constipation and IBS. > > > > BTW I know it is not approved by the FDA as a supplement. But it is > > available. > > > > has anyone tried it? > > > > bleu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Greetings: I have used Tryptophan for pain and sleep after I discovered that muscle and joint pain were relieved by eating turkey last Thanksgiving. I am recovering from EBV and have struggled with CFS like symptoms. Good luck. From: Colourbleu <colourbleu@...>Reply- infections Subject: [infections] L-TryptophanDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:30:34 +0200>Does anyone know a good supplier of L-Tryptophan.>>It would appear it could be a substantial supplement to promote sleep>and relieve constipation and IBS.>>BTW I know it is not approved by the FDA as a supplement. But it is>available.>>has anyone tried it?>>bleu>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Hello , Can you tell me where you bought it and what you paid for it? Thanks Did you get much relief when using it? Bleu On 18 Aug 2005, at 17:49, SHELLEY REED wrote: > Greetings: > > I have used Tryptophan for pain and sleep after I discovered that > muscle and joint pain were relieved by eating turkey last > Thanksgiving.  I am recovering from EBV and have struggled with > CFS like symptoms. > > Good luck. > > > >> From:  Colourbleu <colourbleu@...> >> Reply-To:  infections >> To:  >> Subject:  [infections] L-Tryptophan >> Date:  Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:30:34 +0200 >> >Does anyone know a good supplier of L-Tryptophan. >> > >> >It would appear it could be a substantial supplement to promote sleep >> >and relieve constipation and IBS. >> > >> >BTW I know it is not approved by the FDA as a supplement. But it is >> >available. >> > >> >has anyone tried it? >> > >> >bleu >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Yes, I paid $39.95 at a local nutritional store in Eugene, Oregon, named Evergreen. I was in a whole lot of pain at the time so it was noticeable when eating the turkey changed that. It lifted the pain by about 30%. I didn't take much of the Tryptophan because it caused me to have about 4 hours of undisturbed sleep, but then I would wake up after that which I found annoying. So I have taken it from time to time when pain keeps me awake, it's very helpful for falling asleep, lifting mood and relieving pain. I hope this helps you. The lady at the Evergreen store told me it was originally taken off the market due to poisoning caused by a secondary substance, not the tryptophan.Best of luck, From: Colourbleu <colourbleu@...>Reply- infections infections Subject: Re: [infections] L-TryptophanDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 19:23:16 +0200>Hello ,>>Can you tell me where you bought it and what you paid for it?>>Thanks>>Did you get much relief when using it?>>Bleu>On 18 Aug 2005, at 17:49, SHELLEY REED wrote:>>>Greetings:>>>>I have used Tryptophan for pain and sleep after I discovered that >>muscle and joint pain were relieved by eating turkey last >>Thanksgiving.  I am recovering from EBV and have struggled >>with CFS like symptoms.>>>>Good luck.>>>>>>>>>From:  Colourbleu <colourbleu@...>>>>Reply-To:  infections >>>To:  >>>Subject:  [infections] L-Tryptophan>>>Date:  Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:30:34 +0200>>> >Does anyone know a good supplier of L-Tryptophan.>>> >>>> >It would appear it could be a substantial supplement to promote >>>sleep>>> >and relieve constipation and IBS.>>> >>>> >BTW I know it is not approved by the FDA as a supplement. But it >>>is>>> >available.>>> >>>> >has anyone tried it?>>> >>>> >bleu>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 Thanks . You say that it made you wake up? after 4 hours? I was hoping that it would help my sleep. you say it makes you sleepy too. can you please expand a bit on this.. Thanks in advance, bleu On 18 Aug 2005, at 19:44, SHELLEY REED wrote: > Yes, I paid $39.95 at a local nutritional store in Eugene, Oregon, > named Evergreen. I was in a whole lot of pain at the time so it was > noticeable when eating the turkey changed that. It lifted the pain by > about 30%. I didn't take much of the Tryptophan because it caused me > to have about 4 hours of undisturbed sleep, but then I would wake up > after that which I found annoying. So I have taken it from time to > time when pain keeps me awake, it's very helpful for falling asleep, > lifting mood and relieving pain. > > I hope this helps you. The lady at the Evergreen store told me it was > originally taken off the market due to poisoning caused by a secondary > substance, not the tryptophan. > > Best of luck, > > >> From:  Colourbleu <colourbleu@...> >> Reply-To:  infections >> To:  infections >> Subject:  Re: [infections] L-Tryptophan >> Date:  Thu, 18 Aug 2005 19:23:16 +0200 >> >Hello , >> > >> >Can you tell me where you bought it and what you paid for it? >> > >> >Thanks >> > >> >Did you get much relief when using it? >> > >> >Bleu >> >On 18 Aug 2005, at 17:49, SHELLEY REED wrote: >> > >> >>Greetings: >> >> >> >>I have used Tryptophan for pain and sleep after I discovered that  >> >>muscle and joint pain were relieved by eating turkey last  >> >>Thanksgiving.  I am recovering from EBV and have struggled >> >>with  CFS like symptoms. >> >> >> >>Good luck. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>From:  Colourbleu <colourbleu@...> >> >>>Reply-To:  infections >> >>>To:  >> >>>Subject:  [infections] L-Tryptophan >> >>>Date:  Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:30:34 +0200 >> >>> >Does anyone know a good supplier of L-Tryptophan. >> >>> > >> >>> >It would appear it could be a substantial supplement to promote >> >>>sleep >> >>> >and relieve constipation and IBS. >> >>> > >> >>> >BTW I know it is not approved by the FDA as a supplement. But it >> >>>is >> >>> >available. >> >>> > >> >>> >has anyone tried it? >> >>> > >> >>> >bleu >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 You'll have to experiment. Maybe I didn't take enough. But it flat put me to sleep, I doubt anyone could have awakend me, but like drinking a few glasses of wine before bed, four hours after falling asleep I woke up. Everybody's body is different, I didn't take near the maximum amount, but I was very ill, so it doesn't take too much in the way of drugs for it to be too much for me. Evergreen gave me a fantastic multi-page handout describing what the drug can do, hopefully you find a nutiritional store near you that does the same. S. From: Colourbleu <colourbleu@...>Reply- infections infections Subject: Re: [infections] L-TryptophanDate: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:55:51 +0200>Thanks .>>You say that it made you wake up? after 4 hours? I was hoping that >it would help my sleep. you say it makes you sleepy too. can you >please expand a bit on this..>>>Thanks in advance,>>>bleu>>On 18 Aug 2005, at 19:44, SHELLEY REED wrote:>>>Yes, I paid $39.95 at a local nutritional store in Eugene, Oregon, >>named Evergreen. I was in a whole lot of pain at the time so it >>was noticeable when eating the turkey changed that. It lifted >>the pain by about 30%. I didn't take much of the Tryptophan >>because it caused me to have about 4 hours of undisturbed sleep, >>but then I would wake up after that which I found annoying. So I >>have taken it from time to time when pain keeps me awake, it's >>very helpful for falling asleep, lifting mood and relieving pain.>>>>I hope this helps you. The lady at the Evergreen store told me it >>was originally taken off the market due to poisoning caused by a >>secondary substance, not the tryptophan.>>>>Best of luck,>>>>>>>From:  Colourbleu <colourbleu@...>>>>Reply-To:  infections >>>To:  infections >>>Subject:  Re: [infections] L-Tryptophan>>>Date:  Thu, 18 Aug 2005 19:23:16 +0200>>> >Hello ,>>> >>>> >Can you tell me where you bought it and what you paid for it?>>> >>>> >Thanks>>> >>>> >Did you get much relief when using it?>>> >>>> >Bleu>>> >On 18 Aug 2005, at 17:49, SHELLEY REED wrote:>>> >>>> >>Greetings:>>> >>>>> >>I have used Tryptophan for pain and sleep after I discovered >>>that  >>> >>muscle and joint pain were relieved by eating turkey last  >>> >>Thanksgiving.  I am recovering from EBV and have >>>struggled>>> >>with  CFS like symptoms.>>> >>>>> >>Good luck.>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>From:  Colourbleu <colourbleu@...>>>> >>>Reply-To:  infections >>> >>>To:  >>> >>>Subject:  [infections] L-Tryptophan>>> >>>Date:  Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:30:34 +0200>>> >>> >Does anyone know a good supplier of L-Tryptophan.>>> >>> >>>> >>> >It would appear it could be a substantial supplement to >>>promote>>> >>>sleep>>> >>> >and relieve constipation and IBS.>>> >>> >>>> >>> >BTW I know it is not approved by the FDA as a supplement. >>>But it>>> >>>is>>> >>> >available.>>> >>> >>>> >>> >has anyone tried it?>>> >>> >>>> >>> >bleu>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2005 Report Share Posted August 18, 2005 interesting I have to order it online as im in france. thanks again. bleu On 18 Aug 2005, at 21:06, SHELLEY REED wrote: > You'll have to experiment. Maybe I didn't take enough. But it flat > put me to sleep, I doubt anyone could have awakend me, but like > drinking a few glasses of wine before bed, four hours after falling > asleep I woke up. Everybody's body is different, I didn't take near > the maximum amount, but I was very ill, so it doesn't take too much in > the way of drugs for it to be too much for me. Evergreen gave me a > fantastic multi-page handout describing what the drug can do, > hopefully you find a nutiritional store near you that does the same. > > S. > >> From:  Colourbleu <colourbleu@...> >> Reply-To:  infections >> To:  infections >> Subject:  Re: [infections] L-Tryptophan >> Date:  Thu, 18 Aug 2005 20:55:51 +0200 >> >Thanks . >> > >> >You say that it made you wake up? after 4 hours? I was hoping that >> >it  would help my sleep. you say it makes you sleepy too. can you >> >please  expand a bit on this.. >> > >> > >> >Thanks in advance, >> > >> > >> >bleu >> > >> >On 18 Aug 2005, at 19:44, SHELLEY REED wrote: >> > >> >>Yes, I paid $39.95 at a local nutritional store in Eugene, Oregon,  >> >>named Evergreen. I was in a whole lot of pain at the time so it >> >>was  noticeable when eating the turkey changed that. It lifted >> >>the pain by  about 30%. I didn't take much of the Tryptophan >> >>because it caused me  to have about 4 hours of undisturbed sleep, >> >>but then I would wake up  after that which I found annoying. So I >> >>have taken it from time to  time when pain keeps me awake, it's >> >>very helpful for falling asleep,  lifting mood and relieving pain. >> >> >> >>I hope this helps you. The lady at the Evergreen store told me it >> >>was  originally taken off the market due to poisoning caused by a >> >>secondary  substance, not the tryptophan. >> >> >> >>Best of luck, >> >> >> >> >> >>>From:  Colourbleu <colourbleu@...> >> >>>Reply-To:  infections >> >>>To:  infections >> >>>Subject:  Re: [infections] L-Tryptophan >> >>>Date:  Thu, 18 Aug 2005 19:23:16 +0200 >> >>> >Hello , >> >>> > >> >>> >Can you tell me where you bought it and what you paid for it? >> >>> > >> >>> >Thanks >> >>> > >> >>> >Did you get much relief when using it? >> >>> > >> >>> >Bleu >> >>> >On 18 Aug 2005, at 17:49, SHELLEY REED wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >>Greetings: >> >>> >> >> >>> >>I have used Tryptophan for pain and sleep after I discovered >> >>>that  >> >>> >>muscle and joint pain were relieved by eating turkey last  >> >>> >>Thanksgiving.  I am recovering from EBV and have >> >>>struggled >> >>> >>with  CFS like symptoms. >> >>> >> >> >>> >>Good luck. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >>>From:  Colourbleu <colourbleu@...> >> >>> >>>Reply-To:  infections >> >>> >>>To:  >> >>> >>>Subject:  [infections] L-Tryptophan >> >>> >>>Date:  Thu, 18 Aug 2005 07:30:34 +0200 >> >>> >>> >Does anyone know a good supplier of L-Tryptophan. >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >It would appear it could be a substantial supplement to >> >>>promote >> >>> >>>sleep >> >>> >>> >and relieve constipation and IBS. >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >BTW I know it is not approved by the FDA as a supplement. >> >>>But it >> >>> >>>is >> >>> >>> >available. >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >has anyone tried it? >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >bleu >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Hi, . I just want to mention that tryptophan is not a drug. It's one of the essential amino acids that we cannot live without. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Sure, I appreciate your commenting on this. I am aware that it is an amino acid, I just have medical/biology terminology fatigue. S. From: "rvankonynen" <richvank@...>Reply- infections infections Subject: [infections] Re: L-TryptophanDate: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 00:18:56 -0000>Hi, .>>I just want to mention that tryptophan is not a drug. It's one of the>essential amino acids that we cannot live without.>>Rich>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 L-tryptophan and 5-Hydroxytryptophan are both precursers for seritonin, a neurotransmitter. Precurser loading for seritonin can help people with sleep problems, mild to moderate depression and fibromyalgia symptoms. Banannas and turkey are good dietary sources of L-tryptophan. > Hi, . > > I just want to mention that tryptophan is not a drug. It's one of the > essential amino acids that we cannot live without. > > Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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