RE: More from Dave Moskowitz

[Guest guest]

Cure for bird flu may already exist

08.02.2004 19:42 - Bird flu kills people because the virus is new to all of us as a species, and we overdo our immune response to the novel virus. What virologists at WHO don't yet get is that there's nothing specially destructive about the 1918 avian influenza virus, nor the influenza A virus which we don't have a proper vaccine to this year, nor the current bird flu strain. They don't possess a "killer" enzyme that turns flesh to goo.

The only thing these viruses share is novelty. They're new to our species. The people who die from them all have the same picture at autopsy. Their lungs are full of monocyte/macrophages. There's hardly any virus to be found.

Like most things in life, people are getting killed because they're over-reacting.

[my note: now that's a weird thing to say...in the context of what he is actually saying...how can anyone help if their immune system can't cope with a virus?]

GenoMed has identified a very early step in the immune response pathway which can be safely turned off without turning you into a Petri dish for infections. This is the problem with steroids. We've used our patent-pending approach against West Nile virus encephalitis this past fall. Of 8 patients so treated, 7 were cured within an average of 24 hours. Not bad, especially for the 3 patients over 70 who had at least a 50% expected risk of dying.

Please go to www.genomedics.com and click on "Flu Trial" if you'd like to learn more. Participating in the trial is easy, free (except for the cost of the meds), and possible anywhere on earth. The drugs we use--ACE inhibitors and angiotensin II receptor blockers (ARB's)--are carried in every corner drug store, and physicians around the world know how to use them safely.

Best regards,

Dave Moskowitz MD, MA(Oxon.), FACP Chief medical officer & CEO GenoMed, Inc. St. Louis, Missouri USA

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[Guest guest]

Yeah, Moscowitz says he's had real success treating west nile virus

with ARBs as well. I guess in that one, people die from the

inflammation (swelling around brain), so the ARBs reduce the

inflammation. This swelling is also an over-reaction of the immune

system (inflammation is an immune system respons). Just like I think

there's evidence to show that cancer is some kind of overreaction of

the body, and instead of saving us, the cancer itself ends up

killing us. I'm hoping my family will be protected with my ARB

stash, since my doc says these flus are coming, it's just a matter

of time. I wish we knew some equally effective over the counter anti-

inflammatories for emergency cases.

penny

> Cure for bird flu may already exist

> 08.02.2004 19:42 - Bird flu kills people because the virus is new

to all of

> us as a species, and we overdo our immune response to the novel

virus. What

> virologists at WHO don't yet get is that there's nothing specially

> destructive about the 1918 avian influenza virus, nor the

influenza A virus

> which we don't have a proper vaccine to this year, nor the current

bird flu

> strain. They don't possess a " killer " enzyme that turns flesh to

goo.

>

> The only thing these viruses share is novelty. They're new to our

species.

> The people who die from them all have the same picture at autopsy.

Their

> lungs are full of monocyte/macrophages. There's hardly any virus

to be

> found.

>

> Like most things in life, people are getting killed because they're

> over-reacting.

>

> [my note: now that's a weird thing to say...in the context of what

he is

> actually saying...how can anyone help if their immune system can't

cope with

> a virus?]

>

> GenoMed has identified a very early step in the immune response

pathway

> which can be safely turned off without turning you into a Petri

dish for

> infections. This is the problem with steroids. We've used our

patent-pending

> approach against West Nile virus encephalitis this past fall. Of 8

patients

> so treated, 7 were cured within an average of 24 hours. Not bad,

especially

> for the 3 patients over 70 who had at least a 50% expected risk of

dying.

>

> Please go to www.genomedics.com and click on " Flu Trial " if you'd

like to

> learn more. Participating in the trial is easy, free (except for

the cost of

> the meds), and possible anywhere on earth. The drugs we use--ACE

inhibitors

> and angiotensin II receptor blockers (ARB's)--are carried in every

corner

> drug store, and physicians around the world know how to use them

safely.

>

> Best regards,

>

> Dave Moskowitz MD, MA(Oxon.), FACP

> Chief medical officer & CEO

> GenoMed, Inc.

> St. Louis, Missouri

> USA

>

>

[Guest guest]

Penny, Yeah , know what you mean on the journal!! Not quite right on the cancer model...Cancer is an infection !! we produce cancer cells continuously.our IS mops them up...we tread a fine line ..Cancers [ & benign tumours]produce inflammation which effectively cloaks the cancer cells from the IS...It's all in s landmark paper...You are so right on the protective properties of ARB's your family could be very grateful for your forward thinking..I am privileged to get one to one explanations from .I'm just hanging in there grasping the science not to mention the enormous implications of his findings .I tell you it will not be long before he is recognised as the genius that he most certainly is..exiting things are afoot...

-----Original Message-----From: infections [mailto:infections ]On Behalf Of penny Sent: 12 August 2005 17:38infections Subject: [infections] Re: More from Dave MoskowitzYeah, Moscowitz says he's had real success treating west nile virus with ARBs as well. I guess in that one, people die from the inflammation (swelling around brain), so the ARBs reduce the inflammation. This swelling is also an over-reaction of the immune system (inflammation is an immune system respons). Just like I think there's evidence to show that cancer is some kind of overreaction of the body, and instead of saving us, the cancer itself ends up killing us. I'm hoping my family will be protected with my ARB stash, since my doc says these flus are coming, it's just a matter of time. I wish we knew some equally effective over the counter anti-inflammatories for emergency cases.penny> Cure for bird flu may already exist> 08.02.2004 19:42 - Bird flu kills people because the virus is new to all of> us as a species, and we overdo our immune response to the novel virus. What> virologists at WHO don't yet get is that there's nothing specially> destructive about the 1918 avian influenza virus, nor the influenza A virus> which we don't have a proper vaccine to this year, nor the current bird flu> strain. They don't possess a "killer" enzyme that turns flesh to goo.> > The only thing these viruses share is novelty. They're new to our species.> The people who die from them all have the same picture at autopsy. Their> lungs are full of monocyte/macrophages. There's hardly any virus to be> found.> > Like most things in life, people are getting killed because they're> over-reacting.> > [my note: now that's a weird thing to say...in the context of what he is> actually saying...how can anyone help if their immune system can't cope with> a virus?]> > GenoMed has identified a very early step in the immune response pathway> which can be safely turned off without turning you into a Petri dish for> infections. This is the problem with steroids. We've used our patent-pending> approach against West Nile virus encephalitis this past fall. Of 8 patients> so treated, 7 were cured within an average of 24 hours. Not bad, especially> for the 3 patients over 70 who had at least a 50% expected risk of dying.> > Please go to www.genomedics.com and click on "Flu Trial" if you'd like to> learn more. Participating in the trial is easy, free (except for the cost of> the meds), and possible anywhere on earth. The drugs we use--ACE inhibitors> and angiotensin II receptor blockers (ARB's)--are carried in every corner> drug store, and physicians around the world know how to use them safely.> > Best regards,> > Dave Moskowitz MD, MA(Oxon.), FACP> Chief medical officer & CEO> GenoMed, Inc.> St. Louis, Missouri> USA> >