Guest guest Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Hi Mitch. Well the dmso and hydranga sound like a good place to start. I have also seen far infrared be helpful and also near infrared. Something else that works and is free is moving the lymph. I have a certificate in lymphology and I have seen miracles happen when you move the lymph. The way you do that is to simply, lightly stroke the area ALOT. Toward the heard it best. I have seen bones set themselves. It is actually a bio electric medical treatment. It moves the excess fluid out and moves oxygen in and this fires the cells and moves trapped minerals out and nutrients in and amazing things happen. The man I learned from worked on a lady who had been bed bound with arthritis for 12 years. She was so backed up in her lymphatic system that just lightly touching her skin hurt her. He asked her to tough it out for ten minutes while he lightly stroked her legs and she winced and bore it. In ten minutes tho it didn't hurt as much and he could apply more pressure and he pressed on. Her knees were totally locked. She was unable to bend them. The only way she could walk was if people helped her stand up with her rigid legs and then she used crutches, but she was so unstable and hurt so and hurt so bad she rarely did this. So he worked on her for two hours and her knees unlocked and all the pain left and she sat up and crossed her legs for the first time in 12 years. Sounds like an impossible miracle but it you understand the science behind it you uderstand that it is just the body doing what it was mean to do when the tissues are in what is referred to as the dry state. Just enough fluid to move nutrients in and toxins out. Not enough to reduce oxygen to the tissues, which causes a cascade of problems, one of which is mineral deposits. DO NOT LET THE SIMPLICITY OF THIS KEEP YOU FROM TRYING IT. Work on your dogs joint as much as you can handle and watch what happens. It is called speed healing. When you burn a finger and it blisters you have to wait for the body to process the lymph, takes a few days, and then it really heals fast. Well until the lymph is moved the healing can't really happen. If you burn yourself and you know it is bad you can hold the area. . .apply constant pressure and in a few hours a burn that would take a week and half to heal, will be healed. I have experienced it and so have others. This is similar. Move the lymph out and the body will move the mineral deposits out. Add the dmso and hydrangea to the equations and you will see even faster results. Do it daily until you get the desired results. May take a week, may take longer. May take less. Blessings Donna http://www.excellentthings.com Mitch Kirby wrote: Hi all, Garnet - pls, any thoughts? Well we went for some x-rays and test today and now I have discovered why NONE of the anti-inflamatories haven't worked? We x-rayed both knees, the right knee is beautiful! The left knee is a complete and total mess, calification everywhere, bone spurs are cutting into still very good cartilage, each step is like a knife cutting into the cartilage, no wonder he limps! Each step must hurt like hell? My allo vet does NOT want to open him and clean it out, because he said it will come back in about 2 - 3 months? What can I do? I found an old recipe involving Hydradean root on Wellpet, it is supposed to cure kidney stones and I am in the process of brewing up a batch. DMSO taken internally is also supposed to cure Gallstones so I am looking into that - maybe the combo? I need to remove the bone spurs from within, I am NOT going to have him op'd on. The other leg is weakened from carrying the load, I may go with the UBM treatment for this leg to strentghen the tendons, it's a 500 dollar shot - OUCH! I am willing to entertain all thoughts and advice, my choices are quite limited now and quite frankly I am worried sick about Max and his leg. I need to de-calcifiy these bone spurs - ASAP. Mitch Co-Moderator, HolisticPet __________ NOD32 1.1048 (20050405) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.nod32.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Mitch, My thoughts on the subject. I just finished reading the book, " The Calcium Bomb " , by Mullhall and Hansen. Most interesting read and it does seem to pertain in part to abnormal bone formations such as bone spurs! In a nutshell, it describes how nanobacteria can cause abnormal calcification to create all types of calcium based pathologies. According to them, the key is to kill them by first dissolving their calcium shell with EDTA, then using a tetracycline antibiotic. You might want to look into it. I was thinking, if this is the basic protocol strategy, why couldn't one first use a EDTA/DMSO knee paint, then use a tetracycline/DMSO part 2 knee paint to do something similar? Another thought is from the book, " The Body Electric " by Becker. He did research into using a silver electrode and low levels of electricity to regenerate various joints. One might want to experiment with CS/DMSO on the knee plus use a BECK like electric device which can be bought for under $75 to charge the knee with a very mild electric charge. This may duplicate Dr. Becker's results. Though his reasoning is that the silver and electricity seems to cause the formation of stem cells, silver could also be a factor in the nanobacteria factor, by killing them. Mmmmmmmm? Thirdly, Dr. , the famous herbalist, always had great respect for gravel root (Joe Pye weed) in removing abnormal calcium deposits. I would consider using a gravel root/DMSO knee paint on your dog. doug Max's woes Long > > > Hi all, > > Garnet - pls, any thoughts? > > Well we went for some x-rays and test today and now I have > discovered why NONE of the anti-inflamatories haven't worked? > > We x-rayed both knees, the right knee is beautiful! The left knee is > a complete and total mess, calification everywhere, bone spurs are > cutting into still very good cartilage, each step is like a knife > cutting into the cartilage, no wonder he limps! Each step must hurt > like hell? > > My allo vet does NOT want to open him and clean it out, because he > said it will come back in about 2 - 3 months? > > What can I do? > > I found an old recipe involving Hydradean root on Wellpet, it is > supposed to cure kidney stones and I am in the process of brewing up > a batch. DMSO taken internally is also supposed to cure Gallstones > so I am looking into that - maybe the combo? > > I need to remove the bone spurs > from within, I am NOT going to have him op'd on. > > The other leg is weakened from carrying the load, I may go with the > UBM treatment for this leg to strentghen the tendons, it's a 500 > dollar shot - OUCH! > > I am willing to entertain all thoughts and advice, my choices are > quite limited now and quite frankly I am worried sick about Max and > his leg. > > I need to de-calcifiy these bone spurs - ASAP. > > Mitch > Co-Moderator, HolisticPet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 It would seem to me that with all of the spurs, there would be a lot of irritation. DMSO/MSM should do a number on this and hopefully would relieve some of the irritation in both legs. I know it has helped our dogs, especially one with bad knees. Mitch Kirby wrote: Hi all,Garnet - pls, any thoughts?Well we went for some x-rays and test today and now I havediscovered why NONE of the anti-inflamatories haven't worked?We x-rayed both knees, the right knee is beautiful! The left knee isa complete and total mess, calification everywhere, bone spurs arecutting into still very good cartilage, each step is like a knifecutting into the cartilage, no wonder he limps! Each step must hurtlike hell?My allo vet does NOT want to open him and clean it out, because hesaid it will come back in about 2 - 3 months?What can I do?I found an old recipe involving Hydradean root on Wellpet, it issupposed to cure kidney stones and I am in the process of brewing upa batch. DMSO taken internally is also supposed to cure Gallstonesso I am looking into that - maybe the combo?I need to remove the bone spursfrom within, I am NOT going to have him op'd on.The other leg is weakened from carrying the load, I may go with theUBM treatment for this leg to strentghen the tendons, it's a 500dollar shot - OUCH!I am willing to entertain all thoughts and advice, my choices arequite limited now and quite frankly I am worried sick about Max andhis leg.I need to de-calcifiy these bone spurs - ASAP.MitchCo-Moderator, HolisticPet__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Interesting thought here? I do have some ACV handy! Thanks! Mitch And the Fuzzbutts! ********************************************* > > I would give apple cider vinegar in the drinking water for starters and > garlic to kill the bacteria. > > Calcification might be nanobacteria at work and EDTA orally might work? > > My ideas but things I would consider. > > Jean > > ******************* > > > > > Well we went for some x-rays and test today and now I have > > discovered why NONE of the anti-inflamatories haven't worked? > > > > We x-rayed both knees, the right knee is beautiful! The left knee is > > a complete and total mess, calification everywhere, bone spurs are > > cutting into still very good cartilage, each step is like a knife > > cutting into the cartilage, no wonder he limps! Each step must hurt > > like hell? > > > > My allo vet does NOT want to open him and clean it out, because he > > said it will come back in about 2 - 3 months? > > > > What can I do? > > > > I found an old recipe involving Hydradean root on Wellpet, it is > > supposed to cure kidney stones and I am in the process of brewing up > > a batch. DMSO taken internally is also supposed to cure Gallstones > > so I am looking into that - maybe the combo? > > > > I need to remove the bone spurs > > from within, I am NOT going to have him op'd on. > > > > The other leg is weakened from carrying the load, I may go with the > > UBM treatment for this leg to strentghen the tendons, it's a 500 > > dollar shot - OUCH! > > > > I am willing to entertain all thoughts and advice, my choices are > > quite limited now and quite frankly I am worried sick about Max and > > his leg. > > > > I need to de-calcifiy these bone spurs - ASAP. > > > > Mitch > > Co-Moderator, HolisticPet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 Hi Donna, I'm hoping so? As far as the DMSO and hydragean goes! Lymph moving??? Okay I'll admit I am lost on this one - never heard of anything like this?? Do I just lightly rub the leg near the knee joint? He is getting a light massage when I apply the DMSO compress, I do work around the whole area when applying the DMSO, he does seem to enjoy that? Care to enlighten me some more on this mysterious technique? Thanks!! Mitch And the Fuzzbutts! *********************************** > Hi Mitch. Well the dmso and hydranga sound like a good place to start. > I have also seen far infrared be helpful and also near infrared. > Something else that works and is free is moving the lymph. I have a > certificate in lymphology and I have seen miracles happen when you move > the lymph. The way you do that is to simply, lightly stroke the area > ALOT. Toward the heard it best. I have seen bones set themselves. It > is actually a bio electric medical treatment. It moves the excess fluid > out and moves oxygen in and this fires the cells and moves trapped > minerals out and nutrients in and amazing things happen. > > The man I learned from worked on a lady who had been bed bound with > arthritis for 12 years. She was so backed up in her lymphatic system > that just lightly touching her skin hurt her. He asked her to tough it > out for ten minutes while he lightly stroked her legs and she winced and > bore it. In ten minutes tho it didn't hurt as much and he could apply > more pressure and he pressed on. Her knees were totally locked. She > was unable to bend them. The only way she could walk was if people > helped her stand up with her rigid legs and then she used crutches, but > she was so unstable and hurt so and hurt so bad she rarely did this. > > So he worked on her for two hours and her knees unlocked and all the > pain left and she sat up and crossed her legs for the first time in 12 > years. > > Sounds like an impossible miracle but it you understand the science > behind it you uderstand that it is just the body doing what it was mean > to do when the tissues are in what is referred to as the dry state. > Just enough fluid to move nutrients in and toxins out. Not enough to > reduce oxygen to the tissues, which causes a cascade of problems, one of > which is mineral deposits. > > DO NOT LET THE SIMPLICITY OF THIS KEEP YOU FROM TRYING IT. Work on your > dogs joint as much as you can handle and watch what happens. > > It is called speed healing. When you burn a finger and it blisters > you have to wait for the body to process the lymph, takes a few days, > and then it really heals fast. Well until the lymph is moved the > healing can't really happen. If you burn yourself and you know it is > bad you can hold the area. . .apply constant pressure and in a few hours > a burn that would take a week and half to heal, will be healed. I have > experienced it and so have others. > > This is similar. Move the lymph out and the body will move the mineral > deposits out. Add the dmso and hydrangea to the equations and you will > see even faster results. > > Do it daily until you get the desired results. May take a week, may > take longer. May take less. > Blessings > Donna > http://www.excellentthings.com > > Mitch Kirby wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > Garnet - pls, any thoughts? > > > > Well we went for some x-rays and test today and now I have > > discovered why NONE of the anti-inflamatories haven't worked? > > > > We x-rayed both knees, the right knee is beautiful! The left knee is > > a complete and total mess, calification everywhere, bone spurs are > > cutting into still very good cartilage, each step is like a knife > > cutting into the cartilage, no wonder he limps! Each step must hurt > > like hell? > > > > My allo vet does NOT want to open him and clean it out, because he > > said it will come back in about 2 - 3 months? > > > > What can I do? > > > > I found an old recipe involving Hydradean root on Wellpet, it is > > supposed to cure kidney stones and I am in the process of brewing up > > a batch. DMSO taken internally is also supposed to cure Gallstones > > so I am looking into that - maybe the combo? > > > > I need to remove the bone spurs > > from within, I am NOT going to have him op'd on. > > > > The other leg is weakened from carrying the load, I may go with the > > UBM treatment for this leg to strentghen the tendons, it's a 500 > > dollar shot - OUCH! > > > > I am willing to entertain all thoughts and advice, my choices are > > quite limited now and quite frankly I am worried sick about Max and > > his leg. > > > > I need to de-calcifiy these bone spurs - ASAP. > > > > Mitch > > Co-Moderator, HolisticPet > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 could someone tell me where you all buy the DMSO? I'd like to learn more about this. thanks Pam Re: Max's woes Long Hi Donna,I'm hoping so? As far as the DMSO and hydragean goes!Lymph moving???Okay I'll admit I am lost on this one - never heard of anything like this??Do I just lightly rub the leg near the knee joint? He is getting a light massage when I apply the DMSO compress, I do work around the whole area when applying the DMSO, he does seem to enjoy that?Care to enlighten me some more on this mysterious technique?Thanks!!MitchAnd the Fuzzbutts!***********************************> Hi Mitch. Well the dmso and hydranga sound like a good place to start. > I have also seen far infrared be helpful and also near infrared.> Something else that works and is free is moving the lymph. I have a > certificate in lymphology and I have seen miracles happen when you move > the lymph. The way you do that is to simply, lightly stroke the area > ALOT. Toward the heard it best. I have seen bones set themselves. It > is actually a bio electric medical treatment. It moves the excess fluid > out and moves oxygen in and this fires the cells and moves trapped > minerals out and nutrients in and amazing things happen.> > The man I learned from worked on a lady who had been bed bound with > arthritis for 12 years. She was so backed up in her lymphatic system > that just lightly touching her skin hurt her. He asked her to tough it > out for ten minutes while he lightly stroked her legs and she winced and > bore it. In ten minutes tho it didn't hurt as much and he could apply > more pressure and he pressed on. Her knees were totally locked. She > was unable to bend them. The only way she could walk was if people > helped her stand up with her rigid legs and then she used crutches, but > she was so unstable and hurt so and hurt so bad she rarely did this.> > So he worked on her for two hours and her knees unlocked and all the > pain left and she sat up and crossed her legs for the first time in 12 > years. > > Sounds like an impossible miracle but it you understand the science > behind it you uderstand that it is just the body doing what it was mean > to do when the tissues are in what is referred to as the dry state. > Just enough fluid to move nutrients in and toxins out. Not enough to > reduce oxygen to the tissues, which causes a cascade of problems, one of > which is mineral deposits.> > DO NOT LET THE SIMPLICITY OF THIS KEEP YOU FROM TRYING IT. Work on your > dogs joint as much as you can handle and watch what happens.> > It is called speed healing. When you burn a finger and it blisters > you have to wait for the body to process the lymph, takes a few days, > and then it really heals fast. Well until the lymph is moved the > healing can't really happen. If you burn yourself and you know it is > bad you can hold the area. . .apply constant pressure and in a few hours > a burn that would take a week and half to heal, will be healed. I have > experienced it and so have others.> > This is similar. Move the lymph out and the body will move the mineral > deposits out. Add the dmso and hydrangea to the equations and you will > see even faster results.> > Do it daily until you get the desired results. May take a week, may > take longer. May take less.> Blessings> Donna> http://www.excellentthings.com> > Mitch Kirby wrote:> > >> > Hi all,> >> > Garnet - pls, any thoughts?> >> > Well we went for some x-rays and test today and now I have> > discovered why NONE of the anti-inflamatories haven't worked?> >> > We x-rayed both knees, the right knee is beautiful! The left knee is> > a complete and total mess, calification everywhere, bone spurs are> > cutting into still very good cartilage, each step is like a knife> > cutting into the cartilage, no wonder he limps! Each step must hurt> > like hell?> >> > My allo vet does NOT want to open him and clean it out, because he> > said it will come back in about 2 - 3 months?> >> > What can I do?> >> > I found an old recipe involving Hydradean root on Wellpet, it is> > supposed to cure kidney stones and I am in the process of brewing up> > a batch. DMSO taken internally is also supposed to cure Gallstones> > so I am looking into that - maybe the combo?> >> > I need to remove the bone spurs> > from within, I am NOT going to have him op'd on.> >> > The other leg is weakened from carrying the load, I may go with the> > UBM treatment for this leg to strentghen the tendons, it's a 500> > dollar shot - OUCH!> >> > I am willing to entertain all thoughts and advice, my choices are> > quite limited now and quite frankly I am worried sick about Max and> > his leg.> >> > I need to de-calcifiy these bone spurs - ASAP.> >> > Mitch> > Co-Moderator, HolisticPet> >> >> >> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Hi Mitch. I thought about doing this off list as it is off topic for this list, but I think other list members would like to have this info, so I am posting it here. Hope that is okay. I guess I should explain the lymphatic system a little. It looks alot like your cardio vascular system. Veins and arteries and capillaries. There are also nodes, which are what most people are familiar with. What most people don't know is that your lymphatic system has three to four times the fluid in it that you have blood in your veins But no pump. It is a suction system.. You blood capillaries are porous and they leak water and blood proteins into your tissues (interstial tissues) and that water carries nutrients and oxygen. This is how we feed all our cells.. So the lymphatic system is right there in the tissues also. The lymphatic capillaries have little suction cups on them and they suck up the fluid and your lungs act as a suction pump and pull the fluid up to a central duct ( large artery looking thing) that runs up the center of your torso. From there it dumps back into the cardio vascular system through the subclavian (under the colar bone) duct. If your lymhatic system stopped moving you would be dead in 24 hrs. Did you ever hear stories of elderly Native Americans, when they used to be called Indians, who when they were old and unable to travel or were old and sick, would go and sit in their teepee or under a tree and would get really quiet and breath really shallow and within three days they would be dead? Well without knowing the science behind it they were shutting down their lymphatic system, which leads to toxicity and death in short order. Now the opposite of that story is that if you keep your body in what is referred to in the medical world as the "dry state" illness is almost impossible and miraculous healing is possible. Here is just one story to give you an example. A 10 year old girl fell of a trampoline in her back yard and broke her neck. He dad rushed to the hospital from work and he had taken the same course in lymphology that I have and the doctors told him she was a quadraplegic and would be so for the rest of her life. Well he began to work on her to remove the swelling (backed up lymph) and he worked on her non stop for EIGHT hours. Now if you know anything about paralysis you will know that the doctors will say, we just won't know the extent of the damage until the swelling goes down. Why? It is not because they can't see the extent of the damage on a scan. It is because they don't know how much damage will continue to be done while they wait for the swelling to go down. So the dad worked on his daughter non stop and the next day she walked out of the hospital. A true, verifiable story. See Dr. C West. Okay, so your pooch injures his joint. What happens, lymph fluid builds in the area and doesn't leave the area fast enough to eliminate excess minerals in the area and so those minerals essentially 'fall out of solution' and stay there and because of their electrical charge they attract more minerals and they pile up and become little shards. Quite painful and not fun. The good news is that by moving the lymph you can restore a dry state and one by one those minerals will disconnect and move through the lymphatic system and be eliminated from the body. You can do this with arthritic hands and it is quite remarkable and shocking to the person with the problem. One more story. A woman with no legs (don't know why), who is in her seventies, is on hospice and needs full care because she has some kind of muscle tetany which has caused her hands to become tight fists and her arms are locked against her chest. She can do NOTHING for herself. Someone who understands the miraculous benefits of moving the lymph sets her up with a Chi machine. She has no legs and the Chi machine is made for putting your ankles in. So he scratches his head and sets it up on a table where she can lean over it and it will move her upper body. He says he will check back with her in a month. This machine, by moving the body the way it does, moves the lymph. So he gets busy and forgets to call her and in about six weeks he gets a call from some lady who is proclaiming she loves him. He laughs and says, "who is this?" She says, I am the lady with no legs. Of course he remembers and he asks her how she is and she says that she began to see immediate results and that she is off hospice. Her arms totally came free, and her hands opened up and she is now "speed" knitting and entering 'speed' knitting contests. I never knew there was such a thing. Well I could tell you stories like this, and even more incredible than this, all day long. The bottom line is that moving the lymph does seemingly miraculous things and it is easy to do. Just lightly stroke the area. It does not require heavy pressure. Imagine dusting dirt off the bottom of a baby. You want to be firm enough to get the job done but not so firm the baby thinks they are getting a spanking. Smile. Working toward the heart is best as that is the direction that the lymph has to move to leave the tissues and get to the thoracic duct and into the subclavian duct and back into the blood stream for elimination. We have little one way check valves in the system so that the fluid can only flow one way. The trick is to do enough of it. To remove mineral deposits you would need to work on it daily. The more the better, so it is really up to you. Chill and watch TV and somewhat briskly 'Pet" your dogs joint toward it's heart. If your hand/arm gets tired, stop. Take a break and start again. do this daily and it will work. How long? A week to a month is common. Hope that helps. Donna Crow CL EFT-CC http://www.excellentthings.com Mitch Kirby wrote: Hi Donna, I'm hoping so? As far as the DMSO and hydragean goes! Lymph moving??? Okay I'll admit I am lost on this one - never heard of anything like this?? Do I just lightly rub the leg near the knee joint? He is getting a light massage when I apply the DMSO compress, I do work around the whole area when applying the DMSO, he does seem to enjoy that? Care to enlighten me some more on this mysterious technique? Thanks!! Mitch And the Fuzzbutts! *********************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Thank you Mitch, for the question, and thank you Donna for a very, not off topic, enlightening post. Someone i know and respect, and knowing of my search for physical truths, had suggested studing the lymph system, and now i know why....thanks to both of you... Lagoon Re: Max's woes Long Hi Mitch. I thought about doing this off list as it is off topic for this list, but I think other list members would like to have this info, so I am posting it here. Hope that is okay.I guess I should explain the lymphatic system a little. It looks alot like your cardio vascular system. Veins and arteries and capillaries. There are also nodes, which are what most people are familiar with. What most people don't know is that your lymphatic system has three to four times the fluid in it that you have blood in your veins But no pump. It is a suction system.. You blood capillaries are porous and they leak water and blood proteins into your tissues (interstial tissues) and that water carries nutrients and oxygen. This is how we feed all our cells.. So the lymphatic system is right there in the tissues also. The lymphatic capillaries have little suction cups on them and they suck up the fluid and your lungs act as a suction pump and pull the fluid up to a central duct ( large artery looking thing) that runs up the center of your torso. From there it dumps back into the cardio vascular system through the subclavian (under the colar bone) duct. If your lymhatic system stopped moving you would be dead in 24 hrs. Did you ever hear stories of elderly Native Americans, when they used to be called Indians, who when they were old and unable to travel or were old and sick, would go and sit in their teepee or under a tree and would get really quiet and breath really shallow and within three days they would be dead? Well without knowing the science behind it they were shutting down their lymphatic system, which leads to toxicity and death in short order.Now the opposite of that story is that if you keep your body in what is referred to in the medical world as the "dry state" illness is almost impossible and miraculous healing is possible. Here is just one story to give you an example. A 10 year old girl fell of a trampoline in her back yard and broke her neck. He dad rushed to the hospital from work and he had taken the same course in lymphology that I have and the doctors told him she was a quadraplegic and would be so for the rest of her life. Well he began to work on her to remove the swelling (backed up lymph) and he worked on her non stop for EIGHT hours. Now if you know anything about paralysis you will know that the doctors will say, we just won't know the extent of the damage until the swelling goes down. Why? It is not because they can't see the extent of the damage on a scan. It is because they don't know how much damage will continue to be done while they wait for the swelling to go down. So the dad worked on his daughter non stop and the next day she walked out of the hospital. A true, verifiable story. See Dr. C West.Okay, so your pooch injures his joint. What happens, lymph fluid builds in the area and doesn't leave the area fast enough to eliminate excess minerals in the area and so those minerals essentially 'fall out of solution' and stay there and because of their electrical charge they attract more minerals and they pile up and become little shards. Quite painful and not fun.The good news is that by moving the lymph you can restore a dry state and one by one those minerals will disconnect and move through the lymphatic system and be eliminated from the body. You can do this with arthritic hands and it is quite remarkable and shocking to the person with the problem. One more story. A woman with no legs (don't know why), who is in her seventies, is on hospice and needs full care because she has some kind of muscle tetany which has caused her hands to become tight fists and her arms are locked against her chest. She can do NOTHING for herself. Someone who understands the miraculous benefits of moving the lymph sets her up with a Chi machine. She has no legs and the Chi machine is made for putting your ankles in. So he scratches his head and sets it up on a table where she can lean over it and it will move her upper body. He says he will check back with her in a month. This machine, by moving the body the way it does, moves the lymph. So he gets busy and forgets to call her and in about six weeks he gets a call from some lady who is proclaiming she loves him. He laughs and says, "who is this?" She says, I am the lady with no legs. Of course he remembers and he asks her how she is and she says that she began to see immediate results and that she is off hospice. Her arms totally came free, and her hands opened up and she is now "speed" knitting and entering 'speed' knitting contests. I never knew there was such a thing.Well I could tell you stories like this, and even more incredible than this, all day long. The bottom line is that moving the lymph does seemingly miraculous things and it is easy to do. Just lightly stroke the area. It does not require heavy pressure. Imagine dusting dirt off the bottom of a baby. You want to be firm enough to get the job done but not so firm the baby thinks they are getting a spanking. Smile. Working toward the heart is best as that is the direction that the lymph has to move to leave the tissues and get to the thoracic duct and into the subclavian duct and back into the blood stream for elimination. We have little one way check valves in the system so that the fluid can only flow one way.The trick is to do enough of it. To remove mineral deposits you would need to work on it daily. The more the better, so it is really up to you. Chill and watch TV and somewhat briskly 'Pet" your dogs joint toward it's heart. If your hand/arm gets tired, stop. Take a break and start again. do this daily and it will work. How long? A week to a month is common.Hope that helps. Donna Crow CL EFT-CChttp://www.excellentthings.com Mitch Kirby wrote: Hi Donna,I'm hoping so? As far as the DMSO and hydragean goes!Lymph moving???Okay I'll admit I am lost on this one - never heard of anything like this??Do I just lightly rub the leg near the knee joint? He is getting a light massage when I apply the DMSO compress, I do work around the whole area when applying the DMSO, he does seem to enjoy that?Care to enlighten me some more on this mysterious technique?Thanks!!MitchAnd the Fuzzbutts!*********************************** No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.4 - Release Date: 4/6/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 > > > > Garnet - pls, any thoughts? > > > > Well we went for some x-rays and test today and now I have > > discovered why NONE of the anti-inflamatories haven't worked? > > > > We x-rayed both knees, the right knee is beautiful! The left knee is > > a complete and total mess, calification everywhere, bone spurs are > > cutting into still very good cartilage, each step is like a knife > > cutting into the cartilage, no wonder he limps! Each step must hurt > > like hell? No kidding! I have used Calcarea fluorica on a bony prominence my horse developed after getting kicked in the face. It was soon after the injury, maybe up to two weeks. But the bony deposit resolved after the homeopathic Calcarea fluorica which is specific for bone spurs. Could not hurt to try! I used 30C but if I can get 200C that is always what I go for. If you have trouble finding it locally try www.homeopathyworks.com . I use it with Hepa sulfuris to resolve hoof abcesses in my horses and it is amazing they do together. Hep sulf only is generally enough but in chronic conditions where a horse keep developing hoof abcesses the Cal fluo is the key since hoof abcesses often involve bone. Homeopathy can be totally amazing if you find the right remedy. I don't get too hung up on the right one though, I use MacLeod's books and Materia Medica and he does not get nearly so detailed a human MM and Repertories do. Animals are simpler since we can't ask them the nuances of conditions as humans. Let me know if you have trouble finding the remedy and I will see if I can find it for you. I have some local sources for 200c remedies and can prescribe at some naturopathic pharmacies. > > > > My allo vet does NOT want to open him and clean it out, because he > > said it will come back in about 2 - 3 months? That is true, it is an autoimmune process that once it gets going is hard to control. It is probably similar to equine recurrent uveitis, an inflammatory condition in the eye that once triggered is hard to stop. In horses they are experimenting with Cyclosporine A implants which have the effect of suppressing Killer T Cells, the good guys in most situations but bad for the eye cause they cause inflammation and tissue destruction. Cyclosporine A can't be used systemically for more than 6 weeks though since you don't want to suppress Killer T Cells there. > > > > What can I do? Work on joint health. Horse folkds use Hyaluronic acid injections, some use oral but some say it is ineffective, to increase joint fluid and hence lubrication. Calc fluorica. DMSO to decrease inflammation, even though the Rx antinflammatories are not working alone if the Calc fluor could reduce bone spurs and the hyaluronic acid increase joint fluid it could add up. > > I found an old recipe involving Hydradean root on Wellpet, it is > > supposed to cure kidney stones and I am in the process of brewing up > > a batch. DMSO taken internally is also supposed to cure Gallstones > > so I am looking into that - maybe the combo? I don't have experience in this area but have done a lot of reading on gallstone removal using olive oil, lemon and mag sulfate (epsom salts). I have heard of hydrangea root. Before using in a dog be certain to check the canine species sensitivity for toxicity. Don't assume it is ok for a dog just cause a human can take it. I know there are differences in horses and humans with regard to what herbs are safe, Green Black Walnut Hull is toxic for horses but safe to use in humans for worms, for example. > > > > I need to remove the bone spurs > > from within, I am NOT going to have him op'd on. > > > > The other leg is weakened from carrying the load, I may go with the > > UBM treatment for this leg to strentghen the tendons, it's a 500 > > dollar shot - OUCH! You might also consider a laser. My former track trainer swears by them and uses them preventatively on his horses in training and says he can bring back a bowed tendon in 30 days when 90 days is usually the minimum. A good home unit used to be around $1300 last time I checked but there are used ones and technology is always coming down. There are different types of lasers now, the one I used to cure my Bullmastiffs ruptured cruxiate I rented in the late 80's. It was not the far infrared that some are using these days. I am not up on the latest and greatest but I sure would look into them if this was my dog. It has long been on my list of wants to own a laser. My fomer track trainer was Ed Dodwell of Lone Oak, Texas if you want to give him a call and pick his brain. His farm name is Diamond D and he was the top trainer of 2 year olds in Texas for years. > > > > I am willing to entertain all thoughts and advice, my choices are > > quite limited now and quite frankly I am worried sick about Max and > > his leg. > > > > I need to de-calcifiy these bone spurs - ASAP. Be sure your Mg : Ca ratio is 1:1 and that he gets plenty of silicon in his diet. I feed Oatstraw, nettle and horse tail ground to my dogs as a source of Si and other minerals. www.blessedherbs.com is a good source for bulk herbs. Let me know if I can be of further assistance and let us know how it goes. Email me off list and I will give you my phone number in case you need it. 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