Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 crucial question when treating babies - when did the excema start? a lot of them are sensitive to cows' milk-based formula. try replacing with soya or goats' milk - both formulas available from health food shop, soya on prescription if GP is helpful. some babies react to al of them. check how they are sterilising the bottles as some react badly to chlorene, so replace tap water with bottled and don't use milton etc. if it only started when solids were introduced try avoiding some of them. i've seen lots of babies react to baby rice - yes, really. also check washing powders and, particularly, fabric softeners. " specially formulated for sensitive babies " doesn't mean it suits all of them. i treat babies with drop doses added to the bottle as it's easier than infusions. treat the gut and the liver and always include chamomile and viola tric. for itching. you can give the mother quite strong herbs and really clean up her diet. and make sure she's taking enough EFAs - she's probably trying to lose weight now and many women just give up all fats. she needs all the hemp oil she can get. your approach is good. the wine and coffee probably aren't the best but don't take all her props away - she's probably up half the night and exhausted. leave them till last! nne ==================================================== nne Last BA MNIMH Consultant Medical Herbalist Appointments available in Monmouth, Abergavenny, Chepstow and Newport. Tel: 01600 719497 www.mariannelast.co.uk baby eczema Hi all, A mother brought her 6 1/2 months old baby boy to me today. He suffers from eczema. He had large red plaques / patches on each side of his mouth. They were dry and during the consultation did not seem to bother him too much. These come and go and he gets them on other parts of his body (flexor surface of arms for example or tummy, legs...). he scratches a lot especially at night. During the consultation he also tended to scratch his forehead and scalp even though there were no sign of redness. Apart from a chickweed-base cream and a bath with oats and chamomile, I was going to prescribe an infusion for the baby and tinctures for the mother (as she is still breastfeeding him). I am planning to concentrate on calming herbs for the boy and maybe have a more detox approach for the mother. Questions: Is it a valid / the best approach? How much infusion should the boy take? The mother drinks a couple of glasses of wine every other evening and drinks coffee? Could this have a detrimental / aggravating effect? Should she stop using baby formula (SMA Gold) and replace it with something else? He has it about twice a day: some with his breakfast and a bottle at night which the dad likes to give him. He has started eating solids (home-made vegetable puree / banana + baby rice). Any suggestions from someone more used to treating babies will be welcome (as this is my first baby!!) Cheers J-Christophe List Owner Graham White, MNIMH ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 nne... When you say 'drop doses' for babies... how do you figure out your doses? I have a perspective patient-- baby under 6 months with constipation. I understand how to dose the mother, dietary and herbally, but still unsure as to infant and child doses. An area of much interest for me... can you shed some light on that for me? All input welcome from chat group members... Tami Bronstein, BSc Phyt, MNIMH, AHG, CMT Medical Herbalist & Certified Massage Therapist NJ USA baby eczema > > > Hi all, > > A mother brought her 6 1/2 months old baby boy to me today. He suffers > from > eczema. He had large red plaques / patches on each side of his mouth. > They > were dry and during the consultation did not seem to bother him too much. > These come and go and he gets them on other parts of his body (flexor > surface of arms for example or tummy, legs...). he scratches a lot > especially at night. During the consultation he also tended to scratch > his > forehead and scalp even though there were no sign of redness. > > Apart from a chickweed-base cream and a bath with oats and chamomile, I > was > going to prescribe an infusion for the baby and tinctures for the mother > (as > she is still breastfeeding him). I am planning to concentrate on calming > herbs for the boy and maybe have a more detox approach for the mother. > > Questions: > Is it a valid / the best approach? > How much infusion should the boy take? > > The mother drinks a couple of glasses of wine every other evening and > drinks > coffee? Could this have a detrimental / aggravating effect? > > Should she stop using baby formula (SMA Gold) and replace it with > something > else? He has it about twice a day: some with his breakfast and a bottle > at > night which the dad likes to give him. He has started eating solids > (home-made vegetable puree / banana + baby rice). > > Any suggestions from someone more used to treating babies will be welcome > (as this is my first baby!!) > > Cheers > > J-Christophe > > > > > List Owner > > > > Graham White, MNIMH > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 15, 2005 Report Share Posted January 15, 2005 " prospective " -- forgive me... Tami baby eczema > > > Hi all, > > A mother brought her 6 1/2 months old baby boy to me today. He suffers > from > eczema. He had large red plaques / patches on each side of his mouth. > They > were dry and during the consultation did not seem to bother him too much. > These come and go and he gets them on other parts of his body (flexor > surface of arms for example or tummy, legs...). he scratches a lot > especially at night. During the consultation he also tended to scratch > his > forehead and scalp even though there were no sign of redness. > > Apart from a chickweed-base cream and a bath with oats and chamomile, I > was > going to prescribe an infusion for the baby and tinctures for the mother > (as > she is still breastfeeding him). I am planning to concentrate on calming > herbs for the boy and maybe have a more detox approach for the mother. > > Questions: > Is it a valid / the best approach? > How much infusion should the boy take? > > The mother drinks a couple of glasses of wine every other evening and > drinks > coffee? Could this have a detrimental / aggravating effect? > > Should she stop using baby formula (SMA Gold) and replace it with > something > else? He has it about twice a day: some with his breakfast and a bottle > at > night which the dad likes to give him. He has started eating solids > (home-made vegetable puree / banana + baby rice). > > Any suggestions from someone more used to treating babies will be welcome > (as this is my first baby!!) > > Cheers > > J-Christophe > > > > > List Owner > > > > Graham White, MNIMH > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 16, 2005 Report Share Posted January 16, 2005 Hi Tami usually do it off the top of my head rather than follow a set formula. look at the size and general health of the baby and find a balance between a high enough dose to work and a low enough dose to be tolerated. having said that, i usually only use the gentlest, safest herbs and I'm sure there's no difference between 5 and 10 drops of matricaria or trifolium in terms of overload. generally I use, say, 5 drops per feed or 10 drops tds for little babies (I know that's not the same thing but its easy for the parents to do), rising to probably 2.5ml. tds for a toddler, depending on what I'm trying to do and how they respond. for toddlers give in juice or whatever they will swallow (resorted to coke for one child who refused all else - and i'm sure that did more harm than my herbs ever could. gradually weaned him onto other things. people don't know but are afraid of what they know they don't know...), and usually * with* meals. sometimes its only necessary to give one dose at night (thinking of toddlers with bothersome night coughs, for instance) no rules! except - don't use anything stupid (I have been known to use tiny doses (5% of mix?) of ephedra when necessary). I've found the dosage rules I learnt as a student to be totally irrelevant - in fact i quickly forgot them. in particular I was taught to give reduced doses to older people - in fact I almost always give higher doses as there's more to do (while being sensible, of course.) if they're very frail you go more carefully but you can't correlate that with age and you can't drain oedematous legs with 50ml.tr. a week! (100ml Galium FE, at least 50ml. Tarax.fol.FE and throw in some Crataegus and Aesculus...) be confident and inspire the parents' confidence otherwise you're all on a loser. the baby will get better. nne ==================================================== nne Last BA MNIMH Consultant Medical Herbalist Appointments available in Monmouth, Abergavenny, Chepstow and Newport. Tel: 01600 719497 www.mariannelast.co.uk Re: baby eczema nne... When you say 'drop doses' for babies... how do you figure out your doses? I have a perspective patient-- baby under 6 months with constipation. I understand how to dose the mother, dietary and herbally, but still unsure as to infant and child doses. An area of much interest for me... can you shed some light on that for me? All input welcome from chat group members... Tami Bronstein, BSc Phyt, MNIMH, AHG, CMT Medical Herbalist & Certified Massage Therapist NJ USA baby eczema > > > Hi all, > > A mother brought her 6 1/2 months old baby boy to me today. He suffers > from > eczema. He had large red plaques / patches on each side of his mouth. > They > were dry and during the consultation did not seem to bother him too much. > These come and go and he gets them on other parts of his body (flexor > surface of arms for example or tummy, legs...). he scratches a lot > especially at night. During the consultation he also tended to scratch > his > forehead and scalp even though there were no sign of redness. > > Apart from a chickweed-base cream and a bath with oats and chamomile, I > was > going to prescribe an infusion for the baby and tinctures for the mother > (as > she is still breastfeeding him). I am planning to concentrate on calming > herbs for the boy and maybe have a more detox approach for the mother. > > Questions: > Is it a valid / the best approach? > How much infusion should the boy take? > > The mother drinks a couple of glasses of wine every other evening and > drinks > coffee? Could this have a detrimental / aggravating effect? > > Should she stop using baby formula (SMA Gold) and replace it with > something > else? He has it about twice a day: some with his breakfast and a bottle > at > night which the dad likes to give him. He has started eating solids > (home-made vegetable puree / banana + baby rice). > > Any suggestions from someone more used to treating babies will be welcome > (as this is my first baby!!) > > Cheers > > J-Christophe > > > > > List Owner > > > > Graham White, MNIMH > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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