Re: Immune modulators, Tony

[Guest guest]

Oh Good Lord, how can these people be such idiots? They don't see

what's in front of them or listen to patients. I think doctors must

all be replaced in medical school with programmed robots who can't

think for themselves. :-( I swear. Well, at least Tony, maybe

they'll start taking sinus swabs seriously. sheesh.....

penny

>

> This is the mayo article

> Until now, standard sinusitis and sinus infection treatment has

> targeted the nasal and sinus tissue, but recently, Mayo Clinic

> researchers have found that the cause of chronic sinus infections

> lies in the nasal mucus rather than the sinus tissue. The findings

> will be published in the August issue of Journal of Allergy and

> Clinical Immunology.

>

[Guest guest]

Don't agree, don't agree. These things can definitely start in the

head, move to the gut (exactly what actinomyces does), we just don't

have " sinus " symptoms show up until much later. I'm positive this is

what happened to me (probably lungs involved too). My gut became a

problem many, many years after my respiratory issues (my gut got

better on abx, while the head is STILL a problem). Also, remember, I

have the CT scans to prove that abx clears out the sinuses. (Abx

isn't suppoed to kill fungus.) The problem is KEEPING them clear.

The cancer specialist here totally confirmed the idea that bugs that

start in the head can move to the gut. We know actinomyces manifests

in the jawbone and sinus walls, and that it also travels to the

pelvic region. This is EXACTLY what happened to my friend. Her jaw

problems turned into Pelvic problems, and her regular I.D. doc said

there was no connection, BUT the cancer expert said there's an

absolute connection. And now Mayo's saying the mucuous is a problem

in itself (big surprise there). Everybody knows that if mucous drips

into your stomach you feel sick. It's not because of the space it

takes up in your stoamch, it's because of what's in it!

Also, Tony has clearly seen Nystatin blow bacteria out of the petri

dish. In some people. Depends whether the bug's already nystatin

resistant or how long it takes to become nystatin resistant. A good

number of my friends found Nystatin helped them for a fairly long

period of time, until it stopped working. It would make sense to use

it in conjunction with some other bug killer, rather than as a stand

alone.

penny

> Tony , you aint paying attention...He had the dysbiosis first then

the sinus

> infection .As I say, your as healthy as you gut flora lets you be.

>

> Do you know, I do now think Nysatin acts against certain

bacteria!! Not

19/08/2005

[Guest guest]

Penny , Of course it can go either way ..it's just that gut problems first before other debilitating illness's are well documented & Tony was quoting from the letter I posted ..don't forget the translocation of bacteria from the gut to the vagina study ..makes you think eh...

-----Original Message-----From: infections [mailto:infections ]On Behalf Of penny Sent: 22 August 2005 19:46infections Subject: [infections] Re: Immune modulators, Tony

Don't agree, don't agree. These things can definitely start in the head, move to the gut (exactly what actinomyces does), we just don't have "sinus" symptoms show up until much later. I'm positive this is what happened to me (probably lungs involved too). My gut became a problem many, many years after my respiratory issues (my gut got better on abx, while the head is STILL a problem). Also, remember, I have the CT scans to prove that abx clears out the sinuses. (Abx isn't suppoed to kill fungus.) The problem is KEEPING them clear. The cancer specialist here totally confirmed the idea that bugs that start in the head can move to the gut. We know actinomyces manifests in the jawbone and sinus walls, and that it also travels to the pelvic region. This is EXACTLY what happened to my friend. Her jaw problems turned into Pelvic problems, and her regular I.D. doc said there was no connection, BUT the cancer expert said there's an absolute connection. And now Mayo's saying the mucuous is a problem in itself (big surprise there). Everybody knows that if mucous drips into your stomach you feel sick. It's not because of the space it takes up in your stoamch, it's because of what's in it!Also, Tony has clearly seen Nystatin blow bacteria out of the petri dish. In some people. Depends whether the bug's already nystatin resistant or how long it takes to become nystatin resistant. A good number of my friends found Nystatin helped them for a fairly long period of time, until it stopped working. It would make sense to use it in conjunction with some other bug killer, rather than as a stand alone.penny> Tony , you aint paying attention...He had the dysbiosis first then the sinus> infection .As I say, your as healthy as you gut flora lets you be.> > Do you know, I do now think Nysatin acts against certain bacteria!! Not19/08/2005

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I do agree. The gut is very important part of the immune system

and if it's messed up, you're messed up.

penny

> Penny , Of course it can go either way ..it's just that gut problems

first

> before other debilitating illness's are well documented & Tony was

quoting

> from the letter I posted ..don't forget the translocation of

bacteria from

> the gut to the vagina study ..makes you think eh...

>