Re: glutathione question and input

[Guest guest]

Hi, Peg.

Glutamate (or glutamic acid) is one of the amino acids that goes

into making glutathione. The other two are cysteine and glycine.

Thanks for posting the information about the patient with MS.

You might be interested to know that Wellness Pharmacy compounds

glutathione rectal suppositories (250 mg) on prescription, and this

is a considerably cheaper way to get intact glutathione molecules

into your blood. You can also do it yourself, rather than having to

go for IV infusions. You could use them at the rate that seemed

best for you.

Many PWCs find that they feel quite a bit better for a day or so

after getting IV glutathione. The half-life of IV glutathione in

human blood plasma is about 1.6 minutes. It is absorbed primarily

by the kidneys, which make use of it, and secondarily by the lungs,

which also have a major need for glutathione. Other organs absorb

lesser amounts. IV glutathione is not directly very beneficial to

the liver, because it is set up to put glutathione into the blood,

rather than to remove it from the blood. To help the liver's

glutathione status, it is necessary to supply the amino acids

orally, such as in nondenatured whey protein (RenewPro or ImmunoPro

Rx are the most potent sources), or N-acetylcysteine combined with

dietary protein.

Rich

>

> Catching up on some posts of a few days back. I've got a dumb

> question...is glutathione and glutamate the same?

>

> My latest blood tests once again revealed low levels of some basic

> vitamins so I went to get a meyers cocktail last week. Doctor B

told

> me about a long standing patient of his. (If anyone has similiar

> info, please share.)

>

> This woman presented several years ago in a wheelchair with MS. In

> the beginnig he started her on a 3 x week IV vitamin and

glutathione.

> She improved slightly and regained some/little ability, enough to

get

> her researching glutathione. She found a German source for a 4x

> potent glutathione product and in colaboration with this doctor

> started importing this german glutathione. She found out quickly

that

> this product was far superior than anything available in the US as

> she quickly started improving. Within a year, she was out of the

> wheelchair, carpooling the kids and eventually returning to work.

>

> She continues to this day to receive these IV infusions from my

> doctor on a 1x weekly basis, having no relapses as long as she

> doesn't cut back or miss these treatments. You are probably

wondering

> why I didn't whip out my pen to sign up immediately? The cost for

> this glutathione product is anywhere from $1,500 to $3,000 per

month

> depending upon number of infusions per month. ly I would

have,

> as I am aware of how few options I have left, but I just cannot

> afford it.

>

> So, my doctor and I agreed that I would start on the US version

of

> IV glutathione first, and if I saw any improvement that might

> indicate it to be of value, we would talk further. He was not

> willing to dig through files and give me confidential information

> unless I see that it might benefit me. I think he wanted to give

me

> time to see if I could come up with the money.

> Now, I could come up with some $$ for about a month. So I am

> wondering if I could expect to see enough improvement in that

month.

> Maybe I'm just scared that I will get better and then have to

worry

> about how to find the money to continue treatment. I know this is

> probably not an issue much discussed, the dilemmia when treatment

is

> offered at a high cost. Has anyone else faced this, or is this

just

> one of my life's curve balls.

>

> I would appreciate any specific mg doses and other cruitial dosing

> instructions from those here having experience in this product.

Now

> how is that for a soft sell. (i.e. beg)

> You may email me if you would rather.I don't know if what we input

> here winds up in search engines as it used to, so I understand if

you

> don't want to post this info. But frankly, if I'm going to cure

> myself, it will be with information gleened from everyone here,

> certainly not from the doctors. I've been seeing this doctor for a

> year now and this is the first time he has brought this up to me.

I'd

> be tick'd off if I didn't need it so much.

> Thank you

>

> Peg

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much Rich.

This information is so key to me specifically and I so appreciate

your taking the time to let me know of this option. I'm printing the

info to get the required info from Wellness Pharmacy and then will

take it to my doctor to get a script for it. Also I'll have to read

it again and again to absorb some of the points you have made. I do

take ImmunoPro now, but need to check to see if the N-acetylcysteine

is in my arsenal.

I am always lookng for ways to " do it yourself " as I need to see

doctors in four specialties and there are just not enough hours in

the day to jump through all of the hoops they erect. Next week I

start the IVIG infusion which is another doctor entirely. Do you

think any of these doctors would work together? No, not mine. I was

taking gammaglobulin shots but last week the ID doctor said that IM

protocol of IgG was not effective. This was the first I had heard

this which was disappointing as I would like to supplement the IVIG

with the injections whenever I get an infection. I sure miss my

immunologist doctor who retired. He was so great, dx me so quickly. I

just have not been able to secure anyone to continue his protocol

since his retirement. Every time I see a new doctor, they want to

see " how low I can go " (down) before agreeing to IVIG, then they

usually have some excuse not to do it in the end. Very

disappointing.

..

I know I would probably gain other needed info if I were able to

post more. I tend to be able to write for a day, then I crash and

burn before I'm able to reply to anyone's response to my original

post. Luckily I've had two coherent days in a row this week. I'm

trying to work on two posts about my recent endocrinology and

cardiology findings, but pain is restricting me to either reply or to

post, not both. Today the replies win.

Thank you again.

Peg

> >

> > Catching up on some posts of a few days back. I've got a dumb

> > question...is glutathione and glutamate the same?

> >

> > My latest blood tests once again revealed low levels of some

basic

> > vitamins so I went to get a meyers cocktail last week. Doctor B

> told

> > me about a long standing patient of his. (If anyone has similiar

> > info, please share.)

> >

> > This woman presented several years ago in a wheelchair with MS.

In

> > the beginnig he started her on a 3 x week IV vitamin and

> glutathione.

> > She improved slightly and regained some/little ability, enough to

> get

> > her researching glutathione. She found a German source for a 4x

> > potent glutathione product and in colaboration with this doctor

> > started importing this german glutathione. She found out quickly

> that

> > this product was far superior than anything available in the US

as

> > she quickly started improving. Within a year, she was out of the

> > wheelchair, carpooling the kids and eventually returning to work.

> >

> > She continues to this day to receive these IV infusions from my

> > doctor on a 1x weekly basis, having no relapses as long as she

> > doesn't cut back or miss these treatments. You are probably

> wondering

> > why I didn't whip out my pen to sign up immediately? The cost for

> > this glutathione product is anywhere from $1,500 to $3,000 per

> month

> > depending upon number of infusions per month. ly I would

> have,

> > as I am aware of how few options I have left, but I just cannot

> > afford it.

> >

> > So, my doctor and I agreed that I would start on the US version

> of

> > IV glutathione first, and if I saw any improvement that might

> > indicate it to be of value, we would talk further. He was not

> > willing to dig through files and give me confidential information

> > unless I see that it might benefit me. I think he wanted to give

> me

> > time to see if I could come up with the money.

> > Now, I could come up with some $$ for about a month. So I am

> > wondering if I could expect to see enough improvement in that

> month.

> > Maybe I'm just scared that I will get better and then have to

> worry

> > about how to find the money to continue treatment. I know this is

> > probably not an issue much discussed, the dilemmia when treatment

> is

> > offered at a high cost. Has anyone else faced this, or is this

> just

> > one of my life's curve balls.

> >

> > I would appreciate any specific mg doses and other cruitial

dosing

> > instructions from those here having experience in this product.

> Now

> > how is that for a soft sell. (i.e. beg)

> > You may email me if you would rather.I don't know if what we

input

> > here winds up in search engines as it used to, so I understand if

> you

> > don't want to post this info. But frankly, if I'm going to cure

> > myself, it will be with information gleened from everyone here,

> > certainly not from the doctors. I've been seeing this doctor for

a

> > year now and this is the first time he has brought this up to me.

> I'd

> > be tick'd off if I didn't need it so much.

> > Thank you

> >

> > Peg

[Guest guest]

Peg, why not try nebulizing? I haven't gotten around to it yet. But

the inspiration nebulizer is $60 on the web. I asked my lymie friend

if she'd had burning (someone on here mentioned--and suggested getting

buffered powder) but she's absolutely fine with it and it's really

helping. I'm going to do it as I don't see how it can't help and I

enjoy my IV glutathione chaser after my IV drip, weekly. It is not as

profoundly helpful as other modalities, but it is good. Anyway you can

nebulize at least twice a day.

I'm sorry I haven't followed your situation--what are the symptoms? (I

only read posts here and there)

[Guest guest]

Peg

This type of post troubles me... The lady got out of a wheelchair

and car pools her kids after glutathione IV's??????My cousin who has

MS is soooooo upto date on GUN MS treatments- is currently doing the

english goat serum that made the news and was supposedly huge a

couple of months back. it has done squat for him, and ends up being

another sounds like a duck is a duck treatment protocol.IMO.

If anyone with MS anywhere on the planet legitametly makes these

types of improvements if there's a cost of 20,000 a month it will be

taken up by this group of ill patients.They are so much more

researched and have the billion dollar research funds that would see

any type of serious improvement NOT GET WASHED AWAY as crap.

Anyway's I'm all for using good science to put in what the body

requires, the only negative aspect may be to put in something your

infection uses to make more cells.

>

> Catching up on some posts of a few days back. I've got a dumb

> question...is glutathione and glutamate the same?

>

> My latest blood tests once again revealed low levels of some basic

> vitamins so I went to get a meyers cocktail last week. Doctor B

told

> me about a long standing patient of his. (If anyone has similiar

> info, please share.)

>

> This woman presented several years ago in a wheelchair with MS. In

> the beginnig he started her on a 3 x week IV vitamin and

glutathione.

> She improved slightly and regained some/little ability, enough to

get

> her researching glutathione. She found a German source for a 4x

> potent glutathione product and in colaboration with this doctor

> started importing this german glutathione. She found out quickly

that

> this product was far superior than anything available in the US as

> she quickly started improving. Within a year, she was out of the

> wheelchair, carpooling the kids and eventually returning to work.

>

> She continues to this day to receive these IV infusions from my

> doctor on a 1x weekly basis, having no relapses as long as she

> doesn't cut back or miss these treatments. You are probably

wondering

> why I didn't whip out my pen to sign up immediately? The cost for

> this glutathione product is anywhere from $1,500 to $3,000 per

month

> depending upon number of infusions per month. ly I would

have,

> as I am aware of how few options I have left, but I just cannot

> afford it.

>

> So, my doctor and I agreed that I would start on the US version

of

> IV glutathione first, and if I saw any improvement that might

> indicate it to be of value, we would talk further. He was not

> willing to dig through files and give me confidential information

> unless I see that it might benefit me. I think he wanted to give

me

> time to see if I could come up with the money.

> Now, I could come up with some $$ for about a month. So I am

> wondering if I could expect to see enough improvement in that

month.

> Maybe I'm just scared that I will get better and then have to

worry

> about how to find the money to continue treatment. I know this is

> probably not an issue much discussed, the dilemmia when treatment

is

> offered at a high cost. Has anyone else faced this, or is this

just

> one of my life's curve balls.

>

> I would appreciate any specific mg doses and other cruitial dosing

> instructions from those here having experience in this product.

Now

> how is that for a soft sell. (i.e. beg)

> You may email me if you would rather.I don't know if what we input

> here winds up in search engines as it used to, so I understand if

you

> don't want to post this info. But frankly, if I'm going to cure

> myself, it will be with information gleened from everyone here,

> certainly not from the doctors. I've been seeing this doctor for a

> year now and this is the first time he has brought this up to me.

I'd

> be tick'd off if I didn't need it so much.

> Thank you

>

> Peg

[Guest guest]

Rich wrote, " You might be interested to know that Wellness Pharmacy

compounds glutathione rectal suppositories (250 mg) on prescription,

and this is a considerably cheaper way to get intact glutathione

molecules into your blood. "

Wellness sells 500 mg suppositories for about $4 each. Peg, if you'd

like to back-channel me I can tell you what I know about using these

suppositories.

Sue ,

Upstate New York