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What a beautiful relationship you share!  You are indeed blessed to have her in

your life.

Hugs...........

Diane

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To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:34:11 PM

Subject: RE: Tina

Thanks Diane. I'm staying up her with her as long as she needs me, so

travel is minimal. Until she met Ed, she had been a single mom and we have

had a 'best friend' bond all my life. I've cuddled up in bed with her and

the dogs everynight.. ...last night we fell asleep holding hands. I am so

honored to be here for her. She really is an amazing woman and I hate that

she is losing the man she loves so dearly.

Tina

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From: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

[mailto:livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of diane chandler

Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 4:24 PM

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Tina

Tina,

I am so glad his sister came. I know it will make all the difference for

the both of them, as well as make your mom feel better. I'm also very happy

that everyone has been so helpful to you all. I find that, in these

circumstances, people are usually bending over backwards to be helpful and

to make things as easy on the family as possible. Be careful traveling back

and forth and take care of yourself. Continuing to pray!

Hugs.......

Diane

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From: Tina <beadin_beagle@ <mailto:beadin_ beagle%40yahoo. com> yahoo.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrho sissupport% 40yahoogroups. com>

rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 3:13:50 PM

Subject: RE: Tina

Everyone we have spoken to has been so wonderful.

I just came back to my moms to feed her puppies and open some windows to get

some fresh air in the house as my dad has smoked in the house the past few

weeks. My dad's sister flew in today and will stay for a while. They got

into a tiff a few months ago because she wanted him to get help for his

drinking and he hasn't spoken to her since. Although he has been holding

her hand all afternoon and I think that has helped them both.

They should be transporting him to hospice now and I will meet them over

there.

Tina

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[mailto:livercirrho sissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Tammy Parsons

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 9:11 PM

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Tina

I have to agree that hospice is a great thing! I worked for Hospice until I

had my daughter and she was born with all her medical problems. I loved my

job, I think the best part about it was being there for the families and

just sitting at times and listning to them tell me about there loved one. I

did in-home hospice care. I was a CNA--so I really got to know the families

since I was in the home for long periods a day. I often wonder if I was

meant to go into that line of work since having my daughter and being told

she had a terminal illness. Hope everyone has a great evening!

Tammy

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To: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrho sissupport% 40yahoogroups. com>

rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:39:55 PM

Subject: Re: Tina

I'm so sorry. You make a good choice when you choose hospice. Inpatient

hospice is the place to be. Thats where I want to be when I go. The entire

philosophy if hospice nursing is very different from curative care. They are

very equipped to deal with passing on as a part of life , not the ultimate

enemy. May God be with you and your family in this difficult time. Love,

Bobby

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

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From: Tina <beadin_beagle@ yahoo.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 5:04:48 PM

Subject: RE: Tina

Very bad day. He has been non-responsive all day and we are moving him to

hospice tomarrow.

Right now I'm staying with mom as long as needed.

Tina

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[mailto:livercirrho sissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of diane

chandler

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:20 PM

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Tina

Be careful Tina. I'm praying.

Hugs........ ...

Diane

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From: Tina <beadin_beagle@ <mailto:beadin_ beagle%40yahoo. com> yahoo.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrho sissupport% 40yahoogroups. com>

rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:08:33 PM

Subject: RE: Tina

Thanks Diane.

She just called and hospice is coming at 2:30 today. I can't make it up

there in time but I'm leaving right now and Bill & Sera will come up later.

Tina

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[mailto:livercirrho sissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of diane

chandler

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 1:53 PM

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Tina

Oh, I'm so glad your Mom will get to see Sera! I know that will lift her

spirits and make her day! I know this is a lot on you, but I am so glad

you're going to be there for your Mom tomorrow. I will be praying for all

of you. Thanks for keeping us posted.

Hugs........ ...

Diane

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From: Tina <beadin_beagle@ <mailto:beadin_ beagle%40yahoo. com> yahoo.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrho sissupport% 40yahoogroups. com>

rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:27:21 PM

Subject: RE: Tina

Thanks Diane. My husband, daughter and i are going up this afternoon so my

husband can see him. Then we are going to take mom to dinner and let her

spend some time with Sera (thought it might cheer her up).

The doctors said that his pneumonia hasn't gotten any better despite the

antibiotics and respiratory therapy. Today he is very unresponsive and they

have called hospice in to talk to mom tomorrow. Bill will bring Sera back

with him tonight and I will stay there with her.

I will keep you posted.

Tina

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[mailto:livercirrho sissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of diane

chandler

Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:07 AM

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Tina

Hi Tina! I am so sorry your baby is sick but I am so happy you got to spend

the last few days with your Mom and your stepdad. I know he is facing a

lot of issues, but it seems as if your Mom is doing well with everything. I

pray he will not suffer and that, when the time comes, it will be a peaceful

crossing and that your Mom will be at rest with the crossing. I know none

of look forward to giving up our loved ones, but I have often said I would

rather give up the ones I love than see them suffer. Take care of the baby

and yourself. I am praying for all of you that the Lord will meet your

needs and grant healing, understanding that for some, healing means leaving

our body behind.

Hugs........ ....

Diane

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From: Tina <beadin_beagle@ <mailto:beadin_ beagle%40yahoo. com> yahoo.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrho sissupport% 40yahoogroups. com>

rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 4:13:58 PM

Subject: RE: Tina

Hi family!

Well, I came back home yesterday as my 3 year old was sick and my dad seemed

stable. Yesterday the nurses gave my mom a list of nursing homes to check

out. They said he will need physical therapy 3 times a day and with him not

walking, she is unable to take care of him by herself. The kidney doctor

was in today and said his kidneys were failing. He put it very bluntly wehn

he told her that he would probably never go home again. Personally, I don't

see how his body is still functioning.

He has alcohol cirrhosis and has smoked for over 50 years (when he had heart

surgery 5 years ago they saw early signs of emphasema). In addition to

those 2, he has prostate cancer (gleason score was an 8), a brain aneyurism,

has had heart bypass surgery and then a heart attack and stent. Now he's

in the hospital with pneumonia and blood clots in his legs.

I just don't know how long he can hang on with all of these issues.

If he goes, at least I am at peace that I have spent the last 3 days by his

side, holding his hand, feeding him and making sure he's comfortable and

warm.

Thanks everyone for all your support.

Tina

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[mailto:livercirrho sissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of Bob Aragon

Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 5:03 AM

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Tina

Ammonia is but one toxin. tyhe problem with ammonia is that veinous blood is

not as acurate a meaurement as arterial blood, and they usually dont draw

arterial blood. I found this. it seems to be fairly new, and the guy says he

is a hepatologist. It seems right on the money to me as far as what my

hepatologist says.

http://knol.

<http://knol. google.com/ k/tim-davern/ hepatic-encephal opathy/4ptrsx4j4

vcq/4#>

google.com/k/ tim-davern/ hepatic-encephal opathy/4ptrsx4j4 vcq/4#

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

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From: Tina <beadin_beagle@ <mailto:beadin_ beagle%40yahoo. com> yahoo.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrho sissupport% 40yahoogroups. com>

rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 4:53:47 PM

Subject: RE: Tina

Hi all. They drained EIGHT liters today. suprisingly they said his amonia

levels weren't too high but he seems so confused. His eyes are so glassy

and he sleeps with them half open....it's so sad and scary at the same time.

Right now we are taking it day by day.

Thanks for your support.

Tina

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[mailto:livercirrho sissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of diane

chandler

Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:23 AM

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Subject: Re: Tina

Good, this should make him more comfortable. Keep us informed. Still

praying for all of you.

Hugs........

Diane

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<beadin_beagle@ <mailto:beadin_ beagle%40yahoo. com> yahoo.com>

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rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 9:15:20 AM

Subject: Re: Tina

They r draining some fluid today.

Tina

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Tina

I hope your Dad is comfortable now. It is so hard on everyone when

someone they love goes through so much. You want to do everything you

can to help them and keep them out of pain. Most all things have

to be placed in our creator's hand. We realize our limitations in

life by going through this. Your Dad is truly blest to have a

daughter who really loves and cares about him. Take it easy and

be with him as much as you can. That is more important now than

trying to keep him alive. Sometimes we can become so wrapped up

in death and saving lives, we forget that the spirit of the person

going through this needs to know how much our heart cares more

than what we can do for them. I wish you the best..please let

us know how he and you are both doing.

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Hi All,

We got Ed transported and settle into Hospice yesterday afternoon. He is

comfortable and semi-conscious but not very responsive. The hospice team

has been beyond amazing. We flew Ed's sister in yesterday afternoon and she

is staying with mom & I. The three of us sat and crying and told stories

until late in the night. I am so glad she is here and has made peace with

Ed. His 3 kids are coming some time today and I will head home to catch up

with Bill & Sera before they leave for Orlando and I come back up to Stuart.

Thanks for all you support and prayers.

t

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Tina, thank you so much for the update on your dad.  I am so thankful everything

went well and that he is settled where he can be taken care of and your mom care

spend quality time with him without the struggles of trying to meet his daily

needs.  I am also happy to learn that his children will be coming in today. 

Have a safe trip home and enjoy your time with your DH and Sera.  I know you

have missed them terribly, as they have you.  I continue to pray for all of you,

that the Lord will grant you peace and that Ed's homegoing will be as painfree

as is possible.

Hugs.........

Diane

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To: Tina ; livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:57:06 AM

Subject: RE: Tina

Hi All,

We got Ed transported and settle into Hospice yesterday afternoon. He is

comfortable and semi-conscious but not very responsive. The hospice team

has been beyond amazing. We flew Ed's sister in yesterday afternoon and she

is staying with mom & I. The three of us sat and crying and told stories

until late in the night. I am so glad she is here and has made peace with

Ed. His 3 kids are coming some time today and I will head home to catch up

with Bill & Sera before they leave for Orlando and I come back up to Stuart.

Thanks for all you support and prayers.

t

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I'm glad you got him into a good hospice. I think hospice people are nothing

short of amazing. The made our experience from something horrible into something

beautiful. My prayers are with you.Love, Bobby

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

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To: Tina ; livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:57:06 AM

Subject: RE: Tina

Hi All,

We got Ed transported and settle into Hospice yesterday afternoon. He is

comfortable and semi-conscious but not very responsive. The hospice team

has been beyond amazing. We flew Ed's sister in yesterday afternoon and she

is staying with mom & I. The three of us sat and crying and told stories

until late in the night. I am so glad she is here and has made peace with

Ed. His 3 kids are coming some time today and I will head home to catch up

with Bill & Sera before they leave for Orlando and I come back up to Stuart.

Thanks for all you support and prayers.

t

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> Hi All,

>

> We got Ed transported and settle into Hospice yesterday afternoon.

He is

> comfortable and semi-conscious but not very responsive. The

hospice team

> has been beyond amazing. We flew Ed's sister in yesterday

afternoon and she

> is staying with mom & I. The three of us sat and crying and told

stories

> until late in the night. I am so glad she is here and has made

peace with

> Ed. His 3 kids are coming some time today and I will head home to

catch up

> with Bill & Sera before they leave for Orlando and I come back up

to Stuart.

>

> Thanks for all you support and prayers.

Tina,

Glad to hear Ed is in a Hospice, they really are very helpful! So

nice that his sister is here too. Tough times ahead, I know, but it

is so much nicer when you have people around you to hug and cry with!

Blessings,

Pamela

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It truly is an amazing place.

Tina

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From: livercirrhosissupport

[mailto:livercirrhosissupport ] On Behalf Of Bob Aragon

Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 1:23 PM

To: livercirrhosissupport

Subject: Re: Tina

I'm glad you got him into a good hospice. I think hospice people are nothing

short of amazing. The made our experience from something horrible into

something beautiful. My prayers are with you.Love, Bobby

long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer

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From: Tina <beadin_beagle@ <mailto:beadin_beagle%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>

To: Tina <beadin_beagle@ <mailto:beadin_beagle%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>;

livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrhosissupport%40yahoogroups.com>

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Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 4:57:06 AM

Subject: RE: Tina

Hi All,

We got Ed transported and settle into Hospice yesterday afternoon. He is

comfortable and semi-conscious but not very responsive. The hospice team

has been beyond amazing. We flew Ed's sister in yesterday afternoon and she

is staying with mom & I. The three of us sat and crying and told stories

until late in the night. I am so glad she is here and has made peace with

Ed. His 3 kids are coming some time today and I will head home to catch up

with Bill & Sera before they leave for Orlando and I come back up to Stuart.

Thanks for all you support and prayers.

t

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Thanks for your sweet compliments!

Tina

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[mailto:livercirrhosissupport ] On Behalf Of abijann

Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:27 PM

To: livercirrhosissupport

Subject: Tina

I used to make jewelry, too. But not medical jewelry...I looked

at your site and your selection and jewelry is wonderful.

I hope others here will take a look. You can hardly tell that

it has medical info.

I am glad you are back with us. I think all of us tend to disappear

once in awhile...especially, with computer trouble. We still have

dial up...can't get broadband, so our connection is so slow it

hardly brings up the pages. I miss out on alot posted here with

U tube and other video things that I want so badly to look at.

This is the time of the year that people do tend not to post as

much because of all the work and planning and buying that needs

done.

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