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rheumaticonelist wrote:Does anyone have any information about dealing with

yje pain from shingles.

I have had repeated eposodes of shingles. First of all it is important to get on

a anti-viral med as soon as possible. I find that Zovirax works best for me even

though you have to take it 5 times a day. I also use the cream. When the zosters

heal " capsian " cream applied will help releive the neuralogical pain that can

persist. If pain is severe pain meds are prescribed. Cool compress's help too. I

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Sue,

I don't remember what my Dad drank. Anything available, if my Mom is to

believed. Incredibly, despite his alcoholism, when we were children we

never saw him drink and there was never alcohol in the house. My Mom

wasn't exactly easy to deal with when it came to having things her way.

The only brother still living drinks beer like it's water and he has for

years. He's finally admitting it's a problem (about 20 years too late) but

fortunately for his wife and daughters, he's not mean when he drinks. He

just goes to bed early and blames it on the 20 years he was in the Marine

Corps.

Mine is an Irish family and among the men, drinking has always been

traditional. Beer is the drink of choice, but my Grandfather, who rarely

drank, only drank whiskey with water. He claimed that any mixer besides

water would " rot " your insides. He kept a bottle in his closet and when,

in his opinion, a young man in the family had become a man, he'd call him

into his room and give him a shot of whiskey. But, I never saw him drink a

beer or anything else for that matter. I know that I was lucky, because no

one in my family was ever known to hit their spouses or children. My

aunts, however, say that it was a regular weekend tradition for my uncles

to get together on Saturday night, drink too much beer, and get into

fistfights with each other until my Granddad, their wives or their

girlfriends broke it up.

My grandparents were both born in Wisconsin, by the way, but were North

Dakota homesteaders when they were first married. Ever know any McGarrys,

Stockdales or Inglesbys (Grandma was English) in Wisconson?

Take care,

Geri

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A few thoughts come to mind after reading the recent posts.

As a behavior therapist specializing almost solely in children with OCD, I have

met many families who have gone through years of treatment that have led them

down blind alleys and much anguish has resulted as well as loss of time and

money. Anyone's first choice would be to work with a therapist with lots and

lots of experience with childhood OCD. I have used the metaphor of therapist as

" tour guide " - you want a knowledgable one who can help you translate what the

strange and mysterious symptoms of OCD into understandable, meaningful brain

tricks- vs one who says- " I'm not sure what that is, let's figure it out " .

Unfortunately child OCD specialists are few and far between. The next best

thing is finding a child behavior therapist with whom you feel comfortable who

will buy March's OCD

in Children and Adolescents read it and use it! It is a very user friendly book

and a highly effective treatment. I think that going to someone trained in

behavior therapy is important, because they understand the model of helping kids

do things that are uncomfortable for them, one step at a time. This is the crux

of treatment for OCD- kids need to feel safe enough with their therapist to do

things that feel unsafe... like eating the grape off the floor, or shaking your

hand, etc.

Apologizing excessively is an OCD symptom- children may fear that if they don't

apologize something bad will happen. The way I have worked on this with kids is

to help them sort out when an apology belongs to them (situations where most

people would apologize) and when it belongs to OCD (situations where even their

well behaved friends wouldn't apologize)- then they take the challenge of

breaking OCD's rules. It may be too big a step to not apologize where they

previously would have, instead a first step might be say " I'm sorry... " and then

add the colloquial " not " .... or " I'm not apologizing here, even though OCD the

worry wart is saying I should " . Parents can help by saying- that sounds like

OCD's apology there- I'm only going to take yours!

504 plans are for kids who often have less severe disabilities and do not need

to be classified as they would with IDEA (individuals with disabilities

education act) which involves the IEP process. 504 can be less paper work, a

less formal evaluation process, and less risk of stigma because no label is

required. The down side is that with a 504 there are fewer checks and balances,

no funding $$ attached, no specified times for re-evaluation etc, so they may be

harder to enforce. There was an excellent article in ATTENTION! the newsletter

for CHADD (Children with Attention Deficit Disorders) written by D.

Cohen, J.D. Vol 4, Number 1, Summer 1997 which clearly describes pros and cons

of these two routes. You may want to contact them for a copy- www.chadd.org or

800-233-4050.

Best,

Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.

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=Hi Rick,

no problem with me on emailing it...and everything you said is very true in

my eyes as well....I think most of us have the same prayer... I know I do.

Tinkerbell.. :))

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> Tinkerbell,

>

> Thanks very much for the thoughts, I'm afraid that the shame of it

> is that these thoughts are so very true, but the hope is... although

> this may be the way of it for society in general... at least at this

> time; individually, we are not locked into such a depressing,

> self-centered, and ultimately destructive cycle. Individually we have

> the power of self awareness and Thank God, the ability to change. Each

> day I pray that the obvious comes true and that is that if enough

> individuals change then the society changes.

> Tinkerbell, I hope that you don't mind but I took the liberty to

> post this to another list that I belong to. Once again, thank you,

> knowing that there are other people conscious of the state of affairs in

> our world gives me hope and at the same time brings a sliver of sunlight

> into my day.

>

> Rick......

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HOpe these recipes will be of interest, taken from Nature , The Beauty Box,

NATURE'S BEAUTY BOX

EYES

The eyes are the windows to the soul….

Wrinkles

SOYBEAN CURD WRINKLE FACIAL PACK: Combine 1 oz. Of soft tofu with ½ egg

yolk and 4 tbsp. Of wheat flour in a glass bowl. Mix into a paste and apply

to face(avoid getting into the eyes). Leave on for 10 minutes. Wash with

warm water and splash on cold water for final rinse (ASIA)

VINEGAR AND RYE BREAD WRINKLE CREAM: Mix 2 ¼ crumbled rye brad with 2 cups

cider vinegar in a glass bowl. Let soak for 8 hours. In a blender, combine

2 fresh egg whites with the mixture. Blend first for 1 minute on low and

then 1 minute on high. Press mixture through cheesecloth into a jar and add

2 oz. Tincture of benzoin. Date and label. Gently shake before each use.

Use small amount on wrinkles night and day. Do not use after 1 week.

(EASTERN EUROPE)

FUATEMALAN PLLUM WRINKLE FACIAL: Make a paste of 6 oz. Of the meat of any

variety of fresh plums and 1 tbsp. Of honey. Apply evenly to face(avoid

eyes) Leave on for 10 to 15 minutes and wash off with warm water. For the

final rinse, wash with cold water.(CENTRAL AMERICA)

PUFFINESS:

GRATED POTATO COMPRESS: On 2 square cotton pads, grate 1 ½ tsp. Of raw

potato. Place a cotton pad carefully on each closed eye and rest for 20 to

15 minutes. Remove cotton pads and wash with cold water. (WESTERN EUROPE)

PUFFINESS:

CUCUMBER EYE PACK: Grate 2 tsp. Of fresh cucumber into 2 pieces of

cheesecloth. Tie each cheesecloth into little bags and place gently over

each closed eye. Leave on for 20 minutes, then wash eyes with cold water.

(ASIA)

GROUNSEL EYE PACK; Place 1 tsp. of goundsel leaves into 1 cup of boiling

water. Turn down flame and simmer for 15 minutes. Set aside. When cool,

soak 2 cotton pads in the brew and place carefully over closed eyes. Rest

quietly for 15 minutes. Rinse with cold water. (WESTERN EUROPE)

NORMAL TO DRY SKIN

NORMAL TO DAY KSIN CLEANERS

EGG AND VINEGAR CLEANSING CREAM: Blend 1 egg, 1 tbsp. Of cider vinegar, and

½ tsp. of white sugar together. Slowly and constantly beat in ½ cup of

virgin olive oil until the mixture becomes thick and golden. Massage into

skin, avoiding the eye area. Rinse with warm water and pat dry with a soft

towel.

(NORTH AMERICA)

ALMOND AND QUINCE CLEANSING CREAM: Dissolve ½ tsp. of borax in 1 tbsp. Of

hot water. Mix 1 tsp. of quince seeds into ½ cup of hot water. Set aside.

Mix 4 tbsp. Of ground almonds with 1 tbsp. Of almond oil. When the quince

seed mixture is sticky, combine all ingredients and mix thoroughly. Apply to

face and neck, avoiding the delicate area around t he eye. Was off with warm

water and just pat dry.(ASIA)

CREAMY BUTTERMILK CLEANSER: Mix 4 tbsp. Of limeflower with 1 cup of

buttermilk in a saucepan for 50 minutes. Bring to a boil and simmer. Remove

from the heat and let stand for 3 hours. Strain in a glass jar with date and

label.(WESTERN EUROPE)

ALMOND ORANGE SCRUB: Grind 2 tbsp.of dried orange peel and 2 tbsp. Of

freshly ground almonds. Mix together. Put a small amount in your palm, add

a little water to make a paste, and apply to the face and neck. Scrub gently

in an upward circular motion. Rinse with warm water. Store in a glass far.

Date and label. (INDIA)

SWEET WATER CLENASER: Lather hands well with a non-alkaline facial soap.

Add ½ tsp. of white sugar to soapy hands and massage into face and neck.

Rinse with warm water and gently pat dry.(WESTERN EUROPE)

OATMEAL PASTE SCRUB: Fill the palm of the hand with dry uncooked oatmeal.

Add enough water to make a paste. Apply to the face and neck and gently

massage, Rinse with warm water and gently pat dry. (NORTH AMERICA)

NORMAL TO DRY MOISTERIZERS(moisturizing creams are used to prevent loss of

moisture. They do not moisturize below the surface of the skin).

ST. JOHN'S WORT MOISTURIZER: Pour 8 oz. Boiling water over 4 tbsp. Of dried

St 's leaves or flowers. Steep for 1 hour. Apply to face by dipping a

clean washcloth into the liquid and placing over face and neck. Leave on

face until cold and repeat. Rinse with a little cold buttermilk. (WESTERN

EUROPE)

AVOCADO CREAM: Melt 1 tbsp. Of almond oil, 3 tbsp. Of avocado oil, and 1

tsp. Of beeswax together in a double boiler. Add a pinch of borax to 1 tbsp.

Of rosewater and let dissolve. Combine the rosewater with the oil and

beeswax mixture. Stir until creamy. Massage into face and neck. (SOUTH

AMERICA)

SOOTHING CREAM: Beat together 1 egg white and 2 tsp. of honey. Stir in 4

drops of almond oil. Spread over face and neck. (NORTH AMERICA)

LETTUCE MOISTURIZER: Boil the leaves of one head of iceberg lettuce I a cup

of distilled water for 10 to 15 minutes. Let cool and then strain. Store in

a glass jar. Date and label. Use day and night. Throw away after 2 weeks.

(WESTERN EUROPE)

HONEYDEW CREAM: Strain enough mashed honeydew melon through cheesecloth to

yield 1 oz. Of juice. Melt ½ oz. Of lanolin adding 3 oz. Of fruit kernel

oil. Remove melted mixture from the stove and quickly add the melon juice,

mixing constantly. Add 6 drops of tincture of benzoin. After cooling, store

in a glass jar. Date and label. Apply with cotton pad to face and throat.

Throw away after 3 weeks. (ASIA)

SKIN TONERS( The following toners help to tonify the skin and keep the facial

skin tight, not saggy)

CUCUMBER TONER: simply rub a slice of cucumber ver your face and neck. This

is excellent for delicate skin. Do not rinse.

(WESTERN EUROPE)

HONEYDEW TONER: Cut a thin slice of honeydew melon. Place the cute side on

the face and rub carefully about the face and neck. Wash with warm water and

end with a splash or two of very cold water. (ASIA)

PEAR TONER: Cut a slice of any variety of pear and rub over face and neck.

Wash with warm water. Final rinse should be with cold water. (WESTERN

EUROPE)

ROSEWATER TONER: Mix 1 tbsp. Of rose essence with 2 cups of distilled water.

Store in glass jar. Date and label. Shake well. Apply small amount to

face and neck with a sterile cotton pad.

(MIDDLE EAST)

LILAC SKIN TONIC: Place a handful of lilac leaves in 2 cups of boiling

water. Simmer for 10 minutes. Set aside to cool for 2 hours. Strain,

bottle, and label. Apply to face and neck with a sterile cotton pad or ball.

(WESTERN EUROPE)

FACIAL MASKS:( Make sure that the face is clean before applying a facial. It

is best to apply a facial at night as the skin is more receptive to

nutrients. To open the pores before a mask( which is a good idea), steam the

face for 5 minutes for normal skin or apply a warm compress if our skin is

dry. After the facial is applied, relax with a hot bath).

ALOE VERA CLAY MASK FOR DRY SKIN: To lubricate the skin-Mix together 2 tbsp.

Of red clay with 1 tsp. honey, 2 tsp. of aloe vera gel, 2 drops of lavender

oil, and 2 drops of bergamot oil. Add more clay or oil if necessary to

obtain a creamy past. Spread enough over face and neck to cover, avoiding

the sensitive areas around the eyes. Leave on for about 15 minutes or until

dry. Wash off with plenty of lukewarm water and allow skin to breath freely

for 1 hour before adding a cream or oil to the face. Finish with a water

based skin freshener or toner. (AFRICA)

CHAMOMILE FLOWER MADK: For toning the skin---Mix 1 egg with a ½ to 1 tsp.

Of virgin olive oil and 1 tsp. of chamomile flowers (powdered). Make a

smooth paste. Spread over face and neck. Leave on for 10 minutes. Rinse

off with warm water. Final rinse should be with cold water. (NORTH AMERICA)

HONEY MASK: To nourish skin---Supply enough honey to cover face and neck

with the tips of your fingers. Mover in curricular motion, always moving

upwards. Once the neck and face are covered, gently pat face with flattened

finger tips. After 15 minutes, rinse thoroughly with lukewarm water. (NORTH

AMERICA)

APPLE MASK: To hydrate the skin and open pores-Take 3 ripe apples(any

variety), mash them, and add 3 tbsp. Of fresh orange juice. Lie back and

apply to face and throat . Rest with feet up for 15 t0 30 minutes. First

rinse should be with warm water, the final rinse with cold water to close the

pores. (CENTRAL AMERICA)

STRAWBERRY MASK: Cleans and reduces pores. Mash together 6 oz. Of fresh,

rinsed, ripe, strawberries. Add 1 tbsp. Of fresh cow's milk nad1 tbsp. Of

rice flour. Mix paste together and apply to face and neck. Leave on for 20

to 25 minutes. Clean with warm water and finish off with cold witch hazel.

(CENTRAL AMERICA)

VEGETABLE YOGURT MASK: To heal problem skin(pimples and acne). Steam a

small carrot. Mix together with 1 tbsp. Of plain yogurt. Apply to face and

gently massage. Wash with mineral water. The carrot can be substituted with

fresh, shredded cucumbers.

Love and God Bless,

Kay

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In a message dated 5/24/00 3:54:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

egroups writes:

<< friend of mine lost her 5-year-old son when

he was hit by a car, and it's been a tough, emotional time.

>>

OMG....my prayers are with her.....that's devastating!

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It certainly sounds like you are having a strange reaction. I did a

quick check of the literature and could not find a similar case like

yours, especially with interferon. Although your symptoms are odd, in

theory, it is possible for anyone to experience an allergic reaction to

anything, at any time. But, the fluid building up in the pericardium is

also unusual. A reaction like you are having should result in fluid in

your lungs, which it sounds like you may be now getting.

Since I have no idea of where you are, and what level of medical

providers you have access to, I can only offer some theoretical areas.

To slow everything down, at least until the doctors, and/or, your body

can get a hold of, several possibilities come to mind. Possibly placing

you in a state where your body does not have to fight as hard, might buy

some time to find a treatment. This can be anything from placing you

into a " coma like state " , cooling your body temperature so everything is

slowed down, or, using various drugs to place you in a comfortable, but,

totally controlled medical environment, may also help.

This is done with many severe cases of trauma where it is necessary to

slow the body's need for oxygen and carbon dioxide exchange. You could

be placed into a " state of suspended animation " , and allow machines to

take over your vital functions, until, everything is evaluated, and

something is figured out to help you. While this is a scary thought, it

sounds like nothing being done is working, and you need some time.

I'll keep looking, and asking around. But, it sounds like you need the

resources of a large research, high tech medical center, if you are not

in one already. I can only hope that this situation will go away as

suddenly as it came, and that, you will be in a stage of recuperation by

the time this gets to you. Nothing any of us can say would come close to

expressing what you are feeling. Just know, that, I, probably like many

others, will keep you in our prayers, thoughts, and hearts. Please

update us as often as you feel up to it. Marty

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I had talked to one lady in a hep chat room who had accidentally hit a vein

or artery and had to stop treatment due to seizures as a result. I've read a

lot of stuff over the years but haven't read that particular problem, altho

I have talked to other heppers who have had some heart problems due to

combo. Of course, you don't know if they had problems before and combo just

helped em along or what.

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>

> Hi to all,

>

> I thought that I would introduce myself. My name is Em and I am a 34

> year old female. I live with my husband, 17 yr old foster son, our

> son's father (long story), our two dogs, and 4 cats. I think that is

Hi Em, I'm Teri, I'm 33 yrs old. I've got multiple herniations and have

had the first of what should be multiple surgeries. But it looks like my

surgeon is leaving. Im a single mom, and have an almost 8 yr old son and a

almost 8 yr old small dog. I had surgery to fuse my lumbar herniation in

March. Was looking at one in september, but who knows. The surgeon keeps

putting it off. The March was a 75% success. I'd do it again. The pain I

have still is total nerve pain. I'm able to walk better, but not farther.

I'm able to do more with my son.

Nice to meet ya

Teri

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> Hi to all,

>

> I thought that I would introduce myself. My name is Em and I am a 34

> year old female. I live with my husband, 17 yr old foster son, our

> son's father (long story), our two dogs, and 4 cats. I think that is

Hi Em, I'm Teri, I'm 33 yrs old. I've got multiple herniations and have

had the first of what should be multiple surgeries. But it looks like my

surgeon is leaving. Im a single mom, and have an almost 8 yr old son and a

almost 8 yr old small dog. I had surgery to fuse my lumbar herniation in

March. Was looking at one in september, but who knows. The surgeon keeps

putting it off. The March was a 75% success. I'd do it again. The pain I

have still is total nerve pain. I'm able to walk better, but not farther.

I'm able to do more with my son.

Nice to meet ya

Teri

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Marie-

Stratton's protocal specifies amoxicillin (although he

may have updated this, and he thinks the doxy/zith is

fine also), so this may be what your doc is familiar

with. I think Wheldon prefers doxy because it

penetrates the blood brain barrier better, so more

appropriate for MS.

Don't be in any hurry on the Flagyl, it took 3 months

for me on a single abx (tetracycline) to tolerate the

dual abx (doxy & zith) and, another month or before I

felt the herx from this addition was down enough to

dare the Flagyl. Then I could only do one dose a week,

for about 5 weeks.

I'd pay attention to the Stratton protocal posted a

couple of days back for secondary porphyria, and get

your doc to start B12 shots.

I just started a pulse of tinidazole (I tolerate it

better than flagyl) and will be using Entreclenz for

absorbtion, and hydroquinalone to see if it helps

counter the herx as Stratton suggests trying. I'll let

you know if these make a difference.

Jim

Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:35:43 -0700 (PDT)

From: Marie Mayberry <msmabrry@...>

Subject: Re: Digest Number 190

Thanks so much Jim,

Ironically I have seen Wheldon's wife's work before

when doing a search on art. An interesting site. I did

not know that Wheldon was also an author and a poet.

If you remember I am on the Stratton protocol. I

wonder why my Doc is perscribing amoxicillin instead

of doxy. I am going to ask him.

My progress is slow. I have intermittent bouts of

severe illness. Feels like I am dying when this

happens. Stress seems to be involved. I don't know if

it is herx, porphyrines or something else. Also I am

having a lot of trouble with candida. I was interested

to see that some people have a decrease of candida as

the immune system is given a break by antibiotics.

Hope this happens soon for me. I keep going back to

square one and ramping up. Have only been able to get

up to using Flagyl one time. I think the Doc is

frustrated with me but I have to listen to my body and

slow down when I reach a certain threshold of

tolerance.

Thanks for keeping us informed about the

Wheldon/Stratton protocol.

Marie

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My Doc had me " load up " with B12 before I started

taking antibiotics. Took injections of 6000mcg for

several days-then tapered off. I take injectable 1x ea

week now and sublingual 3-5000 on the days I don't do

injectable.I don't always take that much. So many

things to manage, I sometimes forget. I have a

burning sensation in my nerves that sometimes

culminate in a panic attack and sometimes clonic like

seizures. At first I thought it might be the B12 but

now I think it is either herxing in CNS or porphryia.

Very uncomfortable and scary when it happens.

Thanks for answer,

Marie

--- Jim Kepner <jimk192002@...> wrote:

> Marie-

> Stratton's protocal specifies amoxicillin (although

> he

> may have updated this, and he thinks the doxy/zith

> is

> fine also), so this may be what your doc is familiar

> with. I think Wheldon prefers doxy because it

> penetrates the blood brain barrier better, so more

> appropriate for MS.

>

> Don't be in any hurry on the Flagyl, it took 3

> months

> for me on a single abx (tetracycline) to tolerate

> the

> dual abx (doxy & zith) and, another month or before

> I

> felt the herx from this addition was down enough to

> dare the Flagyl. Then I could only do one dose a

> week,

> for about 5 weeks.

>

> I'd pay attention to the Stratton protocal posted a

> couple of days back for secondary porphyria, and get

> your doc to start B12 shots.

>

> I just started a pulse of tinidazole (I tolerate it

> better than flagyl) and will be using Entreclenz for

> absorbtion, and hydroquinalone to see if it helps

> counter the herx as Stratton suggests trying. I'll

> let

> you know if these make a difference.

>

> Jim

>

> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:35:43 -0700 (PDT)

> From: Marie Mayberry <msmabrry@...>

> Subject: Re: Digest Number 190

>

> Thanks so much Jim,

>

> Ironically I have seen Wheldon's wife's work before

> when doing a search on art. An interesting site. I

> did

> not know that Wheldon was also an author and a poet.

>

>

> If you remember I am on the Stratton protocol. I

> wonder why my Doc is perscribing amoxicillin instead

> of doxy. I am going to ask him.

>

> My progress is slow. I have intermittent bouts of

> severe illness. Feels like I am dying when this

> happens. Stress seems to be involved. I don't know

> if

> it is herx, porphyrines or something else. Also I

> am

> having a lot of trouble with candida. I was

> interested

> to see that some people have a decrease of candida

> as

> the immune system is given a break by antibiotics.

> Hope this happens soon for me. I keep going back to

> square one and ramping up. Have only been able to

> get

> up to using Flagyl one time. I think the Doc is

> frustrated with me but I have to listen to my body

> and

> slow down when I reach a certain threshold of

> tolerance.

>

> Thanks for keeping us informed about the

> Wheldon/Stratton protocol.

>

> Marie

>

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Marie,

Nerve pain, panic. Those are things that fit with a B vitamin

imbalance. Are you taking a good B complex as well as the B12?

penny

I have burning sensation in my nerves that sometimes

> culminate in a panic attack and sometimes clonic like

> seizures. At first I thought it might be the B12 but

> now I think it is either herxing in CNS or porphryia.

> Very uncomfortable and scary when it happens.

>

> Thanks for answer,

> Marie

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I'm not sure about testing, for me it's been trial and error. But I

benefitted from Bs in the past, although B12 alone didn't seem to

work, neither by injection nor sublingual. B complex however,

eliminated some bizarre and nasty symptoms of very severe and

frequent internal itching (possibly some kind of nerve or histimine

reaction) sometimes accompanied by deep abdominal or uterine

pain/contractions. The B complex results were pretty miraculous. All

of those symptoms went away. Recently, I started feeling the

internal itching beginning in the palms of my hands. I hit the

chewable Bs, and that was that...gone.

When I researched the bs some more, I learned how they impact many

systems, including the nerves, the adrenals, etc. etc. But the

correct balance is very important. That's why they usually recommend

taking the B-complex, which often contains Vitamin C, Vitamin B-1,

Vitamin B-2, Vitamin B-3, Pantothenic Acid, Vitamin B-6, Vitamin B-

12, Folic Acid, Biotin, PABA, Choline, Inositol. The complex is

carefully formulated to achieve the right balance. They often call

it the " stress vitamin " as the combo helps relieve stress.

Conversely, an imbalance of the bs could increase your stress

resulting in a panicky feeling.

Since you are taking B-100s, then my first(undeducated) guess would

definitely be an overdose on the B-12, causing either some toxicity,

or depletion of your other Bs creating an imbalance resulting in the

symptoms. But this is purely conjecture on my part.

Once again, nothing's ever as simple as it seems it should be. :-)

penny

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