Re: Jellybelly - Bacteria V parasites

[Guest guest]

What has been rolling around in my head Barb is this. Usually

bacteria are irradicated by our immune system they don't really have

time to be parasites. In the case of Lyme though it manages to evade

the immune system and sets up housekeeping and their numbers soar.

So what does this community live off of, what does it consume to

sustain itself?

When I think of a parastie, I think of something that slowly

consumes it's host. Is this what Lyme eventually does. Not exactly

eating us up, but in many case it consumes all of the nutrients that

we as the host need to survive thus starving us to death over time.

Doesn't that kind of existance qualify as being parasitic?

> The question was asked if Lyme is a parasite on another list- and

some

> answered yes... but a simple yes is sort of misleading I think..

>

>

> It's the USE of the word that you have to be carefull of.

> Anything that lives off something else can be called

a " parasitic " ...

>

> SO a bacteria can be called a parasitic, because it lives on a

host...

>

> I think Jelly is asking if Lyme is a

> parasite - meaning is it callasifed as a

> " helminth " the term under which species of worms are classified.

>

> Lyme is a species of bacteria but the word " parasitic " can be used

as a

> descriptor.

>

> Barb

[Guest guest]

Lyme Disease is caused by a spirochete (Borrelia) on a tick vector

(Ixodes dammini). The disease is multisystemic, causing after

recovery complaints of arthritis of the large joints, myalgia,

malaise, and neurologic and cardiac manifestations. The Borrelia are

parasitic organisms responsible for several diseases (including

relapsing fever) transmitted by ticks and the human body louse

http://66.102.7.104/search?

q=cache:3xy7ecPog_4J:www.innvista.com/health/microbes/parasite/ectopa

r.htm+Lyme+parasite+parasitic & hl=en

> > The question was asked if Lyme is a parasite on another list-

and

> some

> > answered yes... but a simple yes is sort of misleading I think..

> >

> >

> > It's the USE of the word that you have to be carefull of.

> > Anything that lives off something else can be called

> a " parasitic " ...

> >

> > SO a bacteria can be called a parasitic, because it lives on a

> host...

> >

> > I think Jelly is asking if Lyme is a

> > parasite - meaning is it callasifed as a

> > " helminth " the term under which species of worms are

classified.

> >

> > Lyme is a species of bacteria but the word " parasitic " can be

used

> as a

> > descriptor.

> >

> > Barb

[Guest guest]

Jelly:

They are using the term parasiTIC..

I explained in my previous post how a bacteria can be described as

parasitic, but not classified as a paraSITE (such intestinal or

blood worms )

See this site defining nematodes:

http://concise.britannica.com/ebc/article?tocId=9373214

They are not bacteria...

bactera and nematodes are different organisms...

But alot of organisms can be called " parasitic "

Hmmmmmmm I've called my step son parasitic...

Barb

> > > The question was asked if Lyme is a parasite on another list-

> and

> > some

> > > answered yes... but a simple yes is sort of misleading I think..

> > >

> > >

> > > It's the USE of the word that you have to be carefull of.

> > > Anything that lives off something else can be called

> > a " parasitic " ...

> > >

> > > SO a bacteria can be called a parasitic, because it lives on a

> > host...

> > >

> > > I think Jelly is asking if Lyme is a

> > > parasite - meaning is it callasifed as a

> > > " helminth " the term under which species of worms are

> classified.

> > >

> > > Lyme is a species of bacteria but the word " parasitic " can be

> used

> > as a

> > > descriptor.

> > >

> > > Barb

[Guest guest]

I am not sure in what sense they are using the word, but I came

across several places that used the term, " Lyme parasite " . Even a

mosquito is considered a parasite. So it is probably in that sense

that it says Lyme is a parasite and I think that is really what I

was wondering or looking for. In any sense is it considered a

parasite? How would I be able to explain it to others, the effect

that it can have on ones body. As Lyme colonies grow they really in

truly suck the life out of you.

> > > > The question was asked if Lyme is a parasite on another list-

> > and

> > > some

> > > > answered yes... but a simple yes is sort of misleading I

think..

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's the USE of the word that you have to be carefull of.

> > > > Anything that lives off something else can be called

> > > a " parasitic " ...

> > > >

> > > > SO a bacteria can be called a parasitic, because it lives on

a

> > > host...

> > > >

> > > > I think Jelly is asking if Lyme is a

> > > > parasite - meaning is it callasifed as a

> > > > " helminth " the term under which species of worms are

> > classified.

> > > >

> > > > Lyme is a species of bacteria but the word " parasitic " can

be

> > used

> > > as a

> > > > descriptor.

> > > >

> > > > Barb

[Guest guest]

Would it matter to you if it was renamed (it would matter to

biologists because they care about where stuff is on the evolutionary

ladder!). A name would not change its shape, its method of

dissemination, its antigens, its genes, etc. It is what it is. It is

actually a spirochete!

> > > > > The question was asked if Lyme is a parasite on another

list-

>

> > > and

> > > > some

> > > > > answered yes... but a simple yes is sort of misleading I

> think..

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > It's the USE of the word that you have to be carefull of.

> > > > > Anything that lives off something else can be called

> > > > a " parasitic " ...

> > > > >

> > > > > SO a bacteria can be called a parasitic, because it lives

on

> a

> > > > host...

> > > > >

> > > > > I think Jelly is asking if Lyme is a

> > > > > parasite - meaning is it callasifed as a

> > > > > " helminth " the term under which species of worms are

> > > classified.

> > > > >

> > > > > Lyme is a species of bacteria but the word " parasitic " can

> be

> > > used

> > > > as a

> > > > > descriptor.

> > > > >

> > > > > Barb

[Guest guest]

I think your missing the point of my question Jill. But no matter, I

have the answer I was looking for.

> > > > > > The question was asked if Lyme is a parasite on another

> list-

> >

> > > > and

> > > > > some

> > > > > > answered yes... but a simple yes is sort of misleading I

> > think..

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > It's the USE of the word that you have to be carefull of.

> > > > > > Anything that lives off something else can be called

> > > > > a " parasitic " ...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > SO a bacteria can be called a parasitic, because it

lives

> on

> > a

> > > > > host...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I think Jelly is asking if Lyme is a

> > > > > > parasite - meaning is it callasifed as a

> > > > > > " helminth " the term under which species of worms are

> > > > classified.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Lyme is a species of bacteria but the word " parasitic "

can

> > be

> > > > used

> > > > > as a

> > > > > > descriptor.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Barb