Re: What do people want from the list?--Please help me!

[Guest guest]

Hi Ken and others...

yes I'm sorry I haven't been posting - the headaches have just been crippling

and I haven't been able to look at the computer at all (((

Currently I'm trying a treatment called Feldenkrais - ony two sessions so far...

It works on trying to get your body to move in new ways....strengthing it...

Don't know if it will help...but willing to give it a go..

Take care...

I hope that everyone else is doing as well as can be )))...

and thanks Ken...for all your postings.....very informative...

Always

a

hugsssssss

Turbin wrote:

>

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> Lately I have been wondering what our now 65 list members look to

> the chronic_pain list for, and would like to see.

>

> I am asking this questions for several reasons:

> * In the year we have existed, we seem to have gone through some

> different stages--starting out was slow, then we became a high

> participation list, now we're slow again.

> * Over the time I have been involved with the list, I have learned from

> the different styles of some of our members. Ray expresses his compassion

> very well. Mike is straight from the hip with reality, candid,

> caring & informative. While Lyn was with us, she too did a lot, and was

> oriented to overall information, back-and -forth chat and prodigious

> responding to many personally. And almost every one of you who post have

> taught me something.

> * In what seems to be a lull, I have taken to wondering how to make the

> list a little livelier. I think we have come to a point where we mainly

> respond to new introductions, and older members follow, but are not easily

> moved to post. So I think things are a little lopsided now & am looking to

> make it more balanced.

> * We have not done much outreach to expand the list. At one point

> awhile ago, the list activity had fallen off & I was talking with Ray about

> his thoughts, and suddenly the action spiked to a much higher level. Had we

> done outreach for new members, I doubt we moderators could have comfortably

> handled more. Even though there are 4 of us, we are just as plagued as

> everyone else.

> * Most of the work has been done by the mods. If the list increased in

> size, there might be more of varied input. With a larger participation, we

> actually have to work less, because you participants can do a lot.

> * Many of you are tied into resources some of us don't have access to.

> AOL to name a biggie. If we decided to promote, there are many AOL areas to

> make our presence known. It alone has 10 million people. And you people in

> AOL know it better than we may.

> So please consider my questions & your

> thoughts, and don't let one go before it is sent on paper, because this

> really is your list!

>

> Good wishes to everybody,

> Ken

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[Guest guest]

Hi and all,

I was doing Feldenkrais treatment for about a year. I was amazed at how much

better I felt. It was also a kind of emotional cleansing for me. As

treatment went on I guess a lot of pent up emotional issues came to the

surface. I was very lucky to have a woman who was completely supportive when

I would just start to cry for no reason. I only wish she was still in this

area so I could go back to her, especially because my health issues have

changed quite drastically.

Good luck with your treatments, and I hope for all of us that some of our pain

is lifted.

Kathleen

[Guest guest]

Me again

I just realized that I used 's name on the post I just wrote, but it was

a who is trying Feldenkrais. Since a great deal of the time I can't

remember my own name I am not suprised that I used the wrong name. I seem to

live every day in the " Fibro-Fog. "

Kathleen

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kathleen...

I'm hoping but I'm not expecting help - does that sound weird? *s*

Take care....

hugssssssss

a

And don't worry about the name...it's hard to think straight myself

KAKRAG@... wrote:

> From: KAKRAG@...

>

> Hi and all,

>

> I was doing Feldenkrais treatment for about a year. I was amazed at how much

> better I felt. It was also a kind of emotional cleansing for me. As

> treatment went on I guess a lot of pent up emotional issues came to the

> surface. I was very lucky to have a woman who was completely supportive when

> I would just start to cry for no reason. I only wish she was still in this

> area so I could go back to her, especially because my health issues have

> changed quite drastically.

> Good luck with your treatments, and I hope for all of us that some of our pain

> is lifted.

> Kathleen

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[Guest guest]

Ken: I suspect in times when things are quiet, maybe just raising a

question or two, where people can express their opinions? I'm on other

lists and at times they go through similar times of lull and hyperactivity.

I've been on this list for a while and have only gotten to know people as

they post. Sometimes it can be pretty confusing as to who has what kind of

pain and what their disabilities may be. I know for me it is hard not to

define myself by my disabilities, but in a list like this it's pretty much

why we are here, right?

So - I have been disabled since 1971 by chronic pain as a result of a back

injury while I was in the Army Nurse Corp. Since then I have developed,

allergies and asthma, PTSD, chronic bursitis (left hip), fibromyalgia,

osteoarthritis (OA), polyradiculopathy of the spine, rheumatoid arthritis

(RA) and osteoporosis ( brittle bones). I have been learning to

differentiate the different types of pain whether it is nerve pain or joint

pain or muscle pain - not fun.

I am married (since 1990) and am alone at home most of the day (have applied

for a service dog to help me out). I started a home-based business doing

desktop publishing and word processing, but my limitations have kept me from

making it profitable.

Anyone else?

Lois

Grace... Power Made Perfect in Weakness

(2 Cor. 12:9)

[Guest guest]

May I ask what is Feldenkrais treatment and what is it for?

Lois

Grace... Power Made Perfect in Weakness

(2 Cor. 12:9)

Re: What do people want from the list?--Please

help me!

From: KAKRAG@...

Hi and all,

I was doing Feldenkrais treatment for about a year. I was amazed at how

much

better I felt. It was also a kind of emotional cleansing for me. As

treatment went on I guess a lot of pent up emotional issues came to the

surface. I was very lucky to have a woman who was completely supportive

when

I would just start to cry for no reason. I only wish she was still in this

area so I could go back to her, especially because my health issues have

changed quite drastically.

Good luck with your treatments, and I hope for all of us that some of our

pain

is lifted.

Kathleen

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[Guest guest]

Feldenkrais is a treatment that tries to get your body moving in new and better

ways...

Improving posture....loosening muscles....relieving pain...

It's nothing like physio or chiro....very very VERY gentle (that's all I can

stand...and even this hurts)...

for example, I have some exercises to do...lying on my side...supported by

pillows behind my back, between my legs and in front of my body...and I have to

try and slowly

move my shoulder forward and then back...just as much as I can (which is VERY

little).....

I have chronic headaches, depression, back neck and shoulder pain - and he

thinks that this could help in relieving me of my " hump " where my neck joins my

body....and maybe

that will help the nerves to straighten and work better without pain...

Hope that explains it a little *s*..

take care

hugsssssssssss

a

Lois A. Denier wrote:

>

>

> May I ask what is Feldenkrais treatment and what is it for?

> Lois

> Grace... Power Made Perfect in Weakness

> (2 Cor. 12:9)

>

> Re: What do people want from the list?--Please

> help me!

>

> From: KAKRAG@...

>

> Hi and all,

>

> I was doing Feldenkrais treatment for about a year. I was amazed at how

> much

> better I felt. It was also a kind of emotional cleansing for me. As

> treatment went on I guess a lot of pent up emotional issues came to the

> surface. I was very lucky to have a woman who was completely supportive

> when

> I would just start to cry for no reason. I only wish she was still in this

> area so I could go back to her, especially because my health issues have

> changed quite drastically.

> Good luck with your treatments, and I hope for all of us that some of our

> pain

> is lifted.

> Kathleen

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear a,

((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))

Madeline

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> I am married (since 1990) and am alone at home most of the day (have

applied

> for a service dog to help me out). I started a home-based business doing

> desktop publishing and word processing, but my limitations have kept me

from

> making it profitable.

>

> Anyone else?

>

> Lois

>

I know this is a bit late considering you sent this a couple of days ago.

With reference to your last paragraph, what is it that you've found has

affected your ability to make your home business profitable?

Mike

[Guest guest]

At 04:14 PM 3/27/99 -0500, you wrote:

>I started a home-based business doing

>> desktop publishing and word processing, but

Lois, another late follow-up from me. Doing basic web pages is a lot

simpler than desktop publishing. And with the right (free) software you can

do it in a normal word processor, & the program turns it into a complete

web page.

Ken

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/26/99 3:58:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ladenier@... writes:

>

> Anyone else?

>

> Lois

>

> Grace... Power Made Perfect in Weakness

> (2 Cor. 12:9)

>

>

Only God knows how I wound up in so much chronic pain. I thought I was

leading a " normal " life. I used to clean houses, and institutions prior to

developing what has since been diagnosed as an awful combination of Osteo-

Arthitis and Fibromyalgia.

At the time I gave up the strenuous lifestyle, I decided to put my hand

at becoming skilled in the area of office management. After one year of trying

and failing constantly, and also a year of severe verbal abuse, I collapsed. I

was able to get on Social Security Disability based on what was then called

Severe, Chronic, Major Depression.

During the first few months of disability I attended a rehab place. There

it was decided I had an attitude problem. I nagged them for 3 months before

they agreed to let me go see the best eye school in the area. There more

devastating news was the result of the intensive, and exhaustive testing that

I went through. Not only did I have Immature Development of the Nerve endings

in both my eyes, which resulted in my not being able to tract words, I had

hidden learning disabilities that would prevent me from ever working in an

office.

Soon after that the diagnosis of Fibromyalgia, and Osteo-Arthitis were

given to me. Apparently I had developed the Arthritis because of all the

manual labor I had endured. The Fibromyalgia was a result of a flu that had

been in my system for 5 days before being treated. The fever that had

accompanied it was a steady 103.5. I had been too ill to get off the bed to

call for help and no one noticed that I was not amongst them. Finally, I was

forced to ask my landlady for help when I got sick in bed and could not stand

to change my linens. She recognized how ill I was and took me to the doctors.

Instead of hospitalizing me, they gave me antibiotics and sent me home. After

another 5 days of this flu I was left with what later became known to me as

Fibromyalgia.

In the last 5 years I have also developed Diabetes, Hypertension, and

High Cholesterol. Both Fibromyalgia, and Diabetes have conditions that are

called Peripheral Neuropathy. This means that I constantly have flares from

one or the other.

Because Social Security does not allow for living, I have been forced to

work. I am now a cashier in a major supermarket. This means that I am living

in chronic pain that will not be relieved. I come home at night and crawl into

bed, sleep for a few hours and wake because of the pain that never seems to go

very far away.

What really bothers me is that there is not one person, on this earth,

that cares enough to help me in practical ways. Please understand, I don't

expect anyone on this list to do anything. Prayer, sympathy and empathy are

valid and so appreciated, but does not do much to change my life of suffering

to one of relief.

Now that I have shared, is there anyone out there who is willing to

remain my friend? Usually, when I am this open, people avoid me.

Mad

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/26/99 3:59:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ladenier@... writes:

>

>

> May I ask what is Feldenkrais treatment and what is it for?

> Lois

> Grace... Power Made Perfect in Weakness

> (2 Cor. 12:9)

>

Add me to that inquiry, please.

Mad.

[Guest guest]

Hi Mad...

I'm guessing that you didn't see my posting on Feldenkrais???

Feldenkrais is basically trying to get your body to move in different

ways....get your body back into synch as it were...

At the moment I'm doing very very gentle exercises...moving my shoulder back and

forth as much as I can (which isn't much)...with lots of support for the legs

and arms (I

lie on my side for this)

It's a lot different from physio or chiro...very very gentle...

it is hurting me more...and it's not meant to....but I'm trying it out for a

while to see if anything does happen..

If you need more info...just let me know..

hugsssssssssssssssssss

a

MadMad4JC@... wrote:

> From: MadMad4JC@...

>

> In a message dated 3/26/99 3:59:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> ladenier@... writes:

>

> >

> >

> > May I ask what is Feldenkrais treatment and what is it for?

> > Lois

> > Grace... Power Made Perfect in Weakness

> > (2 Cor. 12:9)

> >

> Add me to that inquiry, please.

> Mad.

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[Guest guest]

Hello to all,

Mad you have incredible strength and absolutely I am still your friend.

I am in a similar situation in that my doctors don't want me working but I

need to support myself and my child so I work. Two jobs. I am also exhausted

all the time and pain always follows me every where. It has become a way of

life.

I understand your frustration. I know that when I had a spinal surgery

soon after my daughter was born that I received help for myself and

her from people at my church. It was very hard for me to accept help from

people that I didn't know. But I was so grateful for all the people who

helped us.

I know that there are agencies that help but I think that you have to pay

for them, which of course I can't afford.

I can only say that I understand what your going thru and I wish that I

could help by more than just posting notes here.

I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

A Friend

Kathleen

[Guest guest]

Hi again.....

I think you mean Mad........................

But seeing as I feel alot of what she's going thru......thank you.

Your friend

Kathleen

[Guest guest]

Kathleen: Why would we abandon you? This list is for situations just

like yours. Right now I am not at my speediest, but when I am farther

back on my feet [surgery recently] I would like to interact with you to

show that you have validity and are a needed part of this world.

Be Blest

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/28/99 1:58:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, KAKRAG@...

writes:

> A Friend

> Kathleen

You are indeed a friend, my friend.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/28/99 5:20:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, MadMad4JC@...

writes:

<< Now that I have shared, is there anyone out there who is willing to

remain my friend? Usually, when I am this open, people avoid me. >>

Mad:

How can you even ask? That's what we're all here for: to accept each other

with our own problems and disabilities, provide support and information, as

well as comfort.

I wish there were some other way I could help you, but the best I can do is

put you on my thoughts and prayers lists. Plus, lend an ear whenever you need

it.

{{{and pain-free wishes}}}

Carol

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/29/99 5:22:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ladenier@... writes:

> My ability to push myself just isn't there anymore.

Dear Lois,

So many times I find myself unable to push myself on. I have discovered that

for me it is usually the Fibromyalgia Depression that is getting to me. Since

I have been taking Celexa the depression has been gone and my endurance has

improved.

I am firmly convinced that Fibromyalgia has a component where depression is a

major factor. It is not just an attitude adjustment that is needed but the

medicine to correct the biological imbalance.

Perhaps you may be suffering from the depression that accompanies pain.

Fondly,

Mad.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/29/99 5:25:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ladenier@... writes:

> Have you been to a pain center? HEY, I put a note at the bottom! Ken

Hi Lois,

I tried a pain center, locally. There all they did was suggest Elavil.

Fibromyalgia is a syndrome that few clinics know how to treat. At this time

the combination of drugs I am on alleviate the tension involved and the gentle

stretching relieves the level of the pain. Unless something unusual comes

along, I think this is the best I can do.

Thanks for the kind thoughts,

Mad

**MOD NOTE: Hi Mad, forgive me for poppong up in your email this way. In my

experience, the best alternative is to good expert care is a local family doctor

whom you know & can trust, and would involve you bringing information on

treatments to him/her. I have found that such people do understand you are ill,

perfect care is unavailable, and generally have the confidence to work with you

in terms of honoring medically reasonable requests.

This is what I have done for the past 6 years in Las Vegas; and I couldn't have

a better doctor, even an expert. He sees to my Rx needs, helps think through

problems (don't always love his solutions, but they are good), and has helped me

medically with things that would have been ignored in a chronic pain center or

perhaps by a specialist. Not every doc can work like this, but many can & will.

You are a hardy & capable computer user. That's where I get many of my ideas

from. You can & eventually become your own case manager, join the treatment

team, & help manage your own care.

Ken

[Guest guest]

Hi, Mike:

A home-based business, or just any type I guess, needs to have consistency

and the ability to respond to clients when they call. My energy has hit

rock bottom lately (more pain due to meds being changed) and I just did not

feel up to taking on new clients who call. I do desktop publishing and

professional word processing. I'd been in the yellow pages under both

areas, until this year. I also used to have a Donnelly directory ad and let

that go.

Some clients would be able to give me regular work (like a local printer I

talked to last week), but the problem is, that I'm not dependable. I

over-extended for years, working hard to be dependable and consistent, but

I'm just not up to it any more. My ability to push myself just isn't there

anymore.

But it's not as if I am dependent on my income. We manage pretty well on my

husband's income, so mine really isn't necessary. This is a great relief

and takes alot of pressure off me to help make ends meet.

Did I answer your question?

Lois

Grace... Power Made Perfect in Weakness

(2 Cor. 12:9)

Re: What do people want from the list?--Please

help me!

>

>

>

> I am married (since 1990) and am alone at home most of the day (have

applied

> for a service dog to help me out). I started a home-based business doing

> desktop publishing and word processing, but my limitations have kept me

from

> making it profitable.

>

> Anyone else?

>

> Lois

>

I know this is a bit late considering you sent this a couple of days ago.

With reference to your last paragraph, what is it that you've found has

affected your ability to make your home business profitable?

Mike

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In a message dated 3/29/99 7:32:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,

MsVVarrior@... writes:

> How can you even ask? That's what we're all here for: to accept each other

> with our own problems and disabilities, provide support and information, as

> well as comfort.

Thanks for your friendship.

Mad.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Ken. That's exactly what one of my clients, the Greater

Philadelphia Women's Yellow Pages, keeps on telling me. I have a feeling

though that this is an opportunity for a change of venue. I have been

working in a disability ministry at my church and I've been doing some

writing, to share what I've learned about the church (in general) and the

disabled. The time I've been expending on my business I feel would be

better spent on these other things.

For someone who is actually trying to start a home-based business, they have

to take into consideration the fact that networking and advertising are

crucial to drawing in more work, i.e., money. They also should be able to

take the stress of people coming in last minute demanding to have something

done right then and there. I just couldn't take it - I've been a flaming

co-dependent in a past life and a people pleaser - yuck! Also, being able

to pick up and deliver jobs is the way to do today, but for someone like

myself with physical and energy limitations, it just doesn't work out. Just

a few things I've learned over the last 7 years.

Those who can do web design I know are in demand. Someone like myself would

be fine in designing pages for individuals and small businesses that aren't

too complicated. Beyond that, it would take someone with more programming

experience I suspect (my husband's a programmer, but I'm not - he's

mathematical and flunked algrebra in high school, I just play well with

computers).

I appreciate your ideas, though. Thanks!

Lois

Grace... Power Made Perfect in Weakness

(2 Cor. 12:9)

Re: What do people want from the list?--Please

help me!

At 04:14 PM 3/27/99 -0500, you wrote:

>I started a home-based business doing

>> desktop publishing and word processing, but

Lois, another late follow-up from me. Doing basic web pages is a lot

simpler than desktop publishing. And with the right (free) software you can

do it in a normal word processor, & the program turns it into a complete

web page.

Ken

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My prayers are with you Mad! Wow, what you've been through is draining. I

did the same thing, forcing myself to work with pain, since it was the only

way I could survive. Did welfare and food stamps in 1977: I had just come

out of a 7 week stay the VA hospital, but because they had my diagnosis and

diagnostic rating code wrong, they couldn't give me enough disability to

live on. I can sympathize - maybe even empathize.

Have you been to a pain center? I found it helped me get back on my feet -

and working almost pain free for 12 years.

Hope you get the relief you need!

Lois

Grace... Power Made Perfect in Weakness

(2 Cor. 12:9)

Re: What do people want from the list?--Please

help me!

Only God knows how I wound up in so much chronic pain. I thought I was

leading a " normal " life. I used to clean houses, and institutions prior to

developing what has since been diagnosed as an awful combination of Osteo-

Arthitis and Fibromyalgia.

At the time I gave up the strenuous lifestyle, I decided to put my hand

at becoming skilled in the area of office management. After one year of

trying

and failing constantly, and also a year of severe verbal abuse, I collapsed.

I

was able to get on Social Security Disability based on what was then called

Severe, Chronic, Major Depression.

During the first few months of disability I attended a rehab place.

There

it was decided I had an attitude problem. I nagged them for 3 months before

they agreed to let me go see the best eye school in the area. There more

devastating news was the result of the intensive, and exhaustive testing

that

I went through. Not only did I have Immature Development of the Nerve

endings

in both my eyes, which resulted in my not being able to tract words, I had

hidden learning disabilities that would prevent me from ever working in an

office.

Soon after that the diagnosis of Fibromyalgia, and Osteo-Arthitis were

given to me. Apparently I had developed the Arthritis because of all the

manual labor I had endured. The Fibromyalgia was a result of a flu that had

been in my system for 5 days before being treated. The fever that had

accompanied it was a steady 103.5. I had been too ill to get off the bed to

call for help and no one noticed that I was not amongst them. Finally, I was

forced to ask my landlady for help when I got sick in bed and could not

stand

to change my linens. She recognized how ill I was and took me to the

doctors.

Instead of hospitalizing me, they gave me antibiotics and sent me home.

After

another 5 days of this flu I was left with what later became known to me as

Fibromyalgia.

In the last 5 years I have also developed Diabetes, Hypertension, and

High Cholesterol. Both Fibromyalgia, and Diabetes have conditions that are

called Peripheral Neuropathy. This means that I constantly have flares from

one or the other.

Because Social Security does not allow for living, I have been forced to

work. I am now a cashier in a major supermarket. This means that I am living

in chronic pain that will not be relieved. I come home at night and crawl

into

bed, sleep for a few hours and wake because of the pain that never seems to

go

very far away.

What really bothers me is that there is not one person, on this earth,

that cares enough to help me in practical ways. Please understand, I don't

expect anyone on this list to do anything. Prayer, sympathy and empathy are

valid and so appreciated, but does not do much to change my life of

suffering

to one of relief.

Now that I have shared, is there anyone out there who is willing to

remain my friend? Usually, when I am this open, people avoid me.

Mad

[Guest guest]

Hi, Mad:

Thanks for your input! I've know that there is a component of

depression with pain but I never thought it to be nothing more than

just getting tired of the pain; it didn't dawn on me that there is a

chemical component to it. I have been on Pamelor in varying amounts

since 1992 and am currently up to 50 mgm which is just the point that

it changes from helping with sleep (the suspected cause of my

fibromyalgia) to being an anti-depressant. I am also on Paxil now

(after Zoloft sent my triglycerides off the scale last fall), plus I'm

on Atarax for anxiety. For nerve pain they have me on Neurontin 2700

mgm per day (spread out in varying doses throughout the day) which I

know has really konked me out. I had to go back to caffeine in the

morning just to get up.

I've recent seen a new pain doctor who seems to think that I'm on

pretty much what is used for chronic pain (beside pain killers, which

I am not on). My rheumatologist is reluctant to put me on anything

stronger than Oruvail, which I'm currently maxed out on.

Right now I've caught my husband's bug (sleeping on the couch didn't

protect me!) and I know because of my asthma that it will go to my

chest the first thing. I suspect it'll take me a couple weeks to

recuperate. I've been trying to work up my strength and stamina to be

able to get back to my aquatic physical therapy in a heated pool

(close to 90 degrees) - I know that will help alot, especially with my

muscles and joints. I've got to get moving or I'll be sunk.

Appreciate your prayers!

What is Celexa?

Thanks!

Lois

Grace...power made perfect in weakness

(2 Corinthians 12:9)

> Re: What do people want from the

> list?--Please

> help me!

>

>

> From: MadMad4JC@...

>

> In a message dated 3/29/99 5:22:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> ladenier@... writes:

>

> > My ability to push myself just isn't there anymore.

> Dear Lois,

> So many times I find myself unable to push myself on.

> I have discovered that

> for me it is usually the Fibromyalgia Depression that is

> getting to me. Since

> I have been taking Celexa the depression has been gone and

> my endurance has

> improved.

> I am firmly convinced that Fibromyalgia has a

> component where depression is a

> major factor. It is not just an attitude adjustment that is

> needed but the

> medicine to correct the biological imbalance.

> Perhaps you may be suffering from the depression that

> accompanies pain.

> Fondly,

> Mad.

>

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