Guest guest Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 One of the best mouth washes is 3%H2o2(hydrogen peroxide)and baking sode. cures peridontal disease and is very cheap. Just a dash of baking soda in a mouth full of HP will kill almost every thing in your mouth, spit it out. later hold yogurt in your mouth and swish it between your teeth, swallow. It does not do anything for deep bone or root infection, but it helps. Jimd --- jill1313 <jenbooks13@...> wrote: > Interesting, TOny. Do you have refs to the bigger > studies? I agree > low dose anything just breeds resistance, what is > evolution for after > all. > > I agree about teeth too. I have had several pulled. > I have refused > crowns and root canals. After realizing I was > vulnerable to tooth > infection I use a solution of half h202 and half > water in a water pik > every morning, and I have a teeth cleaning every 3-4 > months, which > seems to have really helped. The h202 obviously > kills the resident > bacteria, and the cleaning removes their homes > (plaque). > > > > > > > > , here's one he published on humans > ..himself along with > > his > > > wife > > > > ..pass the arsenic please!! > > > > > > > > Comp Immunol Microbiol Infect Dis. 2001 > Oct;24(4):233-46. > > > Related > > > > Articles, Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) associated with > Staphylococcus > > spp. > > > > bacteremia, responsive to potassium arsenite > 0.5% in a > > veterinary > > > surgeon > > > > and his coworking wife, handling with CFS > animal cases. > > > > > > > > Tarello W. > > > > > > > > wtarello@s... > > > > > > > > Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) in human > patients remain a > > > controversial and > > > > perplexing condition with emerging zoonotic > aspects. Recent > > > advances in > > > > human medicine seem to indicate a bacterial > etiology and the > > > condition has > > > > already been described in horses, dogs, cats > and birds of prey > in > > > > association with micrococci-like organisms in > the blood. To > > > evaluate the > > > > possibility of a chronic bacteremia, a > veterinary surgeon (the > > > author) and > > > > his coworking wife, both diagnosed with CFS > and meeting the CDC > > > working case > > > > definition, were submitted to rapid blood > cultures and fresh > > blood > > > smears > > > > investigations. Blood cultures proved > Staph-positive and > > micrococci- > > > like > > > > organisms in the blood were repeatedly > observed in the 3-year > > period > > > > preceding the arsenical therapy, during which > several > > medicaments, > > > including > > > > antibiotics, proved unsuccessful. Following > treatment with a > low > > > dosage > > > > arsenical drug (potassium arsenite 0.5%, im., > 1 ml/12 h, for 10 > > > days) both > > > > patients experienced complete remission. At > the post-treatment > > > control made > > > > 1 month later, micrococci had disappeared from > the blood, and > > the > > > CD4/CD8 > > > > ratio was raising. > > > > > > > > Publication Types: > > > > a.. Case Reports > > > > > > > > PMID: 11561958 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > [infections] Re: > Tony - wet mounts > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarello seems to publish almost exclusively > about animals. If > > you > > > > make it to the library and have time, the > full text of this > one > > > > might be fun to look at: > > > > > > > > > > > > Acta Vet Hung. 2003;51(1):61-72. [Paragraph > breaks added] > > > > > > > > Immunological anomalies and thrombocytopenia > in 117 dogs and > > cats > > > > diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome > (CFS). > > > > > > > > Tarello W. > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2005 Report Share Posted July 27, 2005 Jim the baking soda is the best, it kills bacteria by osmosis, ythe hydrogen peroxide cleans but doesn't kill bacteria. You'll find the IV hydrogen peroxide people are more likely cleaning the coagulation in the blood and the rot in the bone as opposed to killing bugs.I would do hydrogen peroxide alongside antibiotics I don't even believe bleach hospital grade is good enough.You'll be surprised how hearty creatures bacteria are they can be manipulated but a total 100 % effort must be made as sometyimes they are only stunned or can even be rehydrated and when you think your doing well they spring back to life. tony > > > > > , here's one he published on humans > > ..himself along with > > > his > > > > wife > > > > > ..pass the arsenic please!! > > > > > > > > > > Comp Immunol Microbiol Infect Dis. 2001 > > Oct;24(4):233-46. > > > > Related > > > > > Articles, Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) associated with > > Staphylococcus > > > spp. > > > > > bacteremia, responsive to potassium arsenite > > 0.5% in a > > > veterinary > > > > surgeon > > > > > and his coworking wife, handling with CFS > > animal cases. > > > > > > > > > > Tarello W. > > > > > > > > > > wtarello@s... > > > > > > > > > > Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) in human > > patients remain a > > > > controversial and > > > > > perplexing condition with emerging zoonotic > > aspects. Recent > > > > advances in > > > > > human medicine seem to indicate a bacterial > > etiology and the > > > > condition has > > > > > already been described in horses, dogs, cats > > and birds of prey > > in > > > > > association with micrococci-like organisms in > > the blood. To > > > > evaluate the > > > > > possibility of a chronic bacteremia, a > > veterinary surgeon (the > > > > author) and > > > > > his coworking wife, both diagnosed with CFS > > and meeting the CDC > > > > working case > > > > > definition, were submitted to rapid blood > > cultures and fresh > > > blood > > > > smears > > > > > investigations. Blood cultures proved > > Staph-positive and > > > micrococci- > > > > like > > > > > organisms in the blood were repeatedly > > observed in the 3-year > > > period > > > > > preceding the arsenical therapy, during which > > several > > > medicaments, > > > > including > > > > > antibiotics, proved unsuccessful. Following > > treatment with a > > low > > > > dosage > > > > > arsenical drug (potassium arsenite 0.5%, im., > > 1 ml/12 h, for 10 > > > > days) both > > > > > patients experienced complete remission. At > > the post-treatment > > > > control made > > > > > 1 month later, micrococci had disappeared from > > the blood, and > > > the > > > > CD4/CD8 > > > > > ratio was raising. > > > > > > > > > > Publication Types: > > > > > a.. Case Reports > > > > > > > > > > PMID: 11561958 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > > [infections] Re: > > Tony - wet mounts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarello seems to publish almost exclusively > > about animals. If > > > you > > > > > make it to the library and have time, the > > full text of this > > one > > > > > might be fun to look at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Acta Vet Hung. 2003;51(1):61-72. [Paragraph > > breaks added] > > > > > > > > > > Immunological anomalies and thrombocytopenia > > in 117 dogs and > > > cats > > > > > diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome > > (CFS). > > > > > > > > > > Tarello W. > > > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 Thanx guys. Yuo mean brush my teeth with baking soda and h202? I did that for a while but I found the baking soda abrasive. But I could certainly swish it around as a kind of gummy solution. Tony, I'm going to try IV h202 I think next week. > > > > > > , here's one he published on humans > > > ..himself along with > > > > his > > > > > wife > > > > > > ..pass the arsenic please!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Comp Immunol Microbiol Infect Dis. 2001 > > > Oct;24(4):233-46. > > > > > Related > > > > > > Articles, Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) associated with > > > Staphylococcus > > > > spp. > > > > > > bacteremia, responsive to potassium arsenite > > > 0.5% in a > > > > veterinary > > > > > surgeon > > > > > > and his coworking wife, handling with CFS > > > animal cases. > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarello W. > > > > > > > > > > > > wtarello@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) in human > > > patients remain a > > > > > controversial and > > > > > > perplexing condition with emerging zoonotic > > > aspects. Recent > > > > > advances in > > > > > > human medicine seem to indicate a bacterial > > > etiology and the > > > > > condition has > > > > > > already been described in horses, dogs, cats > > > and birds of prey > > > in > > > > > > association with micrococci-like organisms in > > > the blood. To > > > > > evaluate the > > > > > > possibility of a chronic bacteremia, a > > > veterinary surgeon (the > > > > > author) and > > > > > > his coworking wife, both diagnosed with CFS > > > and meeting the CDC > > > > > working case > > > > > > definition, were submitted to rapid blood > > > cultures and fresh > > > > blood > > > > > smears > > > > > > investigations. Blood cultures proved > > > Staph-positive and > > > > micrococci- > > > > > like > > > > > > organisms in the blood were repeatedly > > > observed in the 3-year > > > > period > > > > > > preceding the arsenical therapy, during which > > > several > > > > medicaments, > > > > > including > > > > > > antibiotics, proved unsuccessful. Following > > > treatment with a > > > low > > > > > dosage > > > > > > arsenical drug (potassium arsenite 0.5%, im., > > > 1 ml/12 h, for 10 > > > > > days) both > > > > > > patients experienced complete remission. At > > > the post-treatment > > > > > control made > > > > > > 1 month later, micrococci had disappeared from > > > the blood, and > > > > the > > > > > CD4/CD8 > > > > > > ratio was raising. > > > > > > > > > > > > Publication Types: > > > > > > a.. Case Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > PMID: 11561958 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > > > [infections] Re: > > > Tony - wet mounts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarello seems to publish almost exclusively > > > about animals. If > > > > you > > > > > > make it to the library and have time, the > > > full text of this > > > one > > > > > > might be fun to look at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Acta Vet Hung. 2003;51(1):61-72. [Paragraph > > > breaks added] > > > > > > > > > > > > Immunological anomalies and thrombocytopenia > > > in 117 dogs and > > > > cats > > > > > > diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome > > > (CFS). > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarello W. > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2005 Report Share Posted July 28, 2005 Jill The bking soda is a gem of a product. I would attempt to keep a mouthfull of baking soda on the whole interior of my mouth as far back as p[ossable, as long as possable, as often as possable. This may reduce the bacterial numbers going down your gut by billions over a period.I would also be interested to know if the bacteria expel large amounts of toxins making it hard to hold the bicarb in your throat region? > > > > > > > , here's one he published on humans > > > > ..himself along with > > > > > his > > > > > > wife > > > > > > > ..pass the arsenic please!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comp Immunol Microbiol Infect Dis. 2001 > > > > Oct;24(4):233-46. > > > > > > Related > > > > > > > Articles, Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) associated with > > > > Staphylococcus > > > > > spp. > > > > > > > bacteremia, responsive to potassium arsenite > > > > 0.5% in a > > > > > veterinary > > > > > > surgeon > > > > > > > and his coworking wife, handling with CFS > > > > animal cases. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarello W. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wtarello@s... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) in human > > > > patients remain a > > > > > > controversial and > > > > > > > perplexing condition with emerging zoonotic > > > > aspects. Recent > > > > > > advances in > > > > > > > human medicine seem to indicate a bacterial > > > > etiology and the > > > > > > condition has > > > > > > > already been described in horses, dogs, cats > > > > and birds of prey > > > > in > > > > > > > association with micrococci-like organisms in > > > > the blood. To > > > > > > evaluate the > > > > > > > possibility of a chronic bacteremia, a > > > > veterinary surgeon (the > > > > > > author) and > > > > > > > his coworking wife, both diagnosed with CFS > > > > and meeting the CDC > > > > > > working case > > > > > > > definition, were submitted to rapid blood > > > > cultures and fresh > > > > > blood > > > > > > smears > > > > > > > investigations. Blood cultures proved > > > > Staph-positive and > > > > > micrococci- > > > > > > like > > > > > > > organisms in the blood were repeatedly > > > > observed in the 3-year > > > > > period > > > > > > > preceding the arsenical therapy, during which > > > > several > > > > > medicaments, > > > > > > including > > > > > > > antibiotics, proved unsuccessful. Following > > > > treatment with a > > > > low > > > > > > dosage > > > > > > > arsenical drug (potassium arsenite 0.5%, im., > > > > 1 ml/12 h, for 10 > > > > > > days) both > > > > > > > patients experienced complete remission. At > > > > the post-treatment > > > > > > control made > > > > > > > 1 month later, micrococci had disappeared from > > > > the blood, and > > > > > the > > > > > > CD4/CD8 > > > > > > > ratio was raising. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Publication Types: > > > > > > > a.. Case Reports > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PMID: 11561958 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > > > > [infections] Re: > > > > Tony - wet mounts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarello seems to publish almost exclusively > > > > about animals. If > > > > > you > > > > > > > make it to the library and have time, the > > > > full text of this > > > > one > > > > > > > might be fun to look at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Acta Vet Hung. 2003;51(1):61-72. [Paragraph > > > > breaks added] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Immunological anomalies and thrombocytopenia > > > > in 117 dogs and > > > > > cats > > > > > > > diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome > > > > (CFS). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tarello W. > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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