Guest guest Posted July 20, 2005 Report Share Posted July 20, 2005 > Kerr says. Of the other genes whose expression varies in CFS > patients, some are involved in regulating the activity of the immune > system. Others play important roles in nerve cells, including a gene > called NTE, which codes for an enzyme affected by organophosphates > and nerve gases.Journal reference: Journal of Clinical Pathology (vol > 58, p 823, 860) At this point, the only people left who think that CFS is " All in the Mind " are people who are " Out of Their Mind " . I find the gene expression dysregulation regarding neurotoxins extremely relevant. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Very interesting, Tansy! It will be exciting to learn more about the specifics of the deviations they found. Thanks much, > Chronic fatigue is not all in the mind > 23 July 2005 > NewScientist.com news service > Rowan Hooper > > AT LONG last, we are beginning to get to grips with chronic fatigue > syndrome. Differences in gene expression have been found in the > immune cells of peoplewith the disease, a discovery that could lead > to a blood test for the disorderand perhaps even to drugs for > treating it.The symptoms of chronic fatigue syndrome have been > compared to those of areally bad hangover: extreme weakness, > inability to think straight, disruptedsleep and headache. But unlike > a hangover, the symptoms linger for years,devastating people's lives. > While nobody doubts CFS exists, just about every aspect of it is > controversial. Some say it is the same as myalgic encephalomyelitis, > or ME; others disagree. Many specialists are convinced it does have a > biological basis, but pinning down physical abnormalities common to > all patients has proved tough. > > Peoplewith CFS have often received little sympathy from doctors who > dismiss it as " all in the mind " .Now Kerr's team, which is > moving to St 's University of London,has compared levels of > gene expression in the white blood cells of 25 healthyindividuals > with those in 25 patients diagnosed as having CFS according tostrict > criteria. The researchers found differences in 35 of the 9522 genes > they analysed using DNA chip technology. The few similar studies done > in the past have produced conflicting results, so the team double- > checked their results using a more accurate method calledreal-time > PCR. That confirmed that 15 of the genes were up to four times as > active in people with CFS, while one gene was less active. The > results will appear in the Journal of Clinical Pathology next month. > > Kerr is repeating the study in 1000 CFS patients and healthy > controls, this time looking at 47,000 gene products. So far, the > larger study backs up the earlier results, he told New Scientist.If > Kerr really has succeeded where many have failed, and identified > clear physical changes in people with CFS, the lingering opinion that > it is " all inthe mind " could finally be laid to rest. " This exciting > new work shows that some aspects of this complex illness may be > understandable in molecular terms, and that CFS is not a 'made up' > illness, " says Lane, a neurologist at Charing Cross Hospital > in London. It should also be possible to develop a blood test for > CFS. > > The team has already discovered differences in blood proteins related > to the changes in geneexpression.Kerr hopes the work might even lead > to treatments. " We have shown that asignificant part of the > pathogenesis resides in the white blood cells and intheir activity, " > he says. " It will open the door to development ofpharmacological > interventions. " Several of the genes identified by the team in CFS > play important roles inmitochondria, the power factories of our > cells. " The involvement of such genesdoes seem to fit with the fact > that these patients lack energy and suffer fromfatigue, " Kerr says. > One of these gene products, EIF4G1, is involved in protein production > inmitochondria. It is hijacked by some viruses, so cells may > compensate by ramping up gene expression. > > " I am excited by the paper, " says Basant Puri, a CFS expert at > Hammersmith Hospital in London. " The group's finding ofupregulation > of EIF4G1 is consistent with subclinical persistent viral > infection. " This fits in with the idea that CFS is sometimes triggered > by viruses such asEpstein-Barr, Q fever, enteroviruses and parvovirus > B19. " CFS often begins witha flu-like illness which never goes away, " > Kerr says. Of the other genes whose expression varies in CFS > patients, some are involved in regulating the activity of the immune > system. Others play important roles in nerve cells, including a gene > called NTE, which codes for an enzyme affected by organophosphates > and nerve gases.Journal reference: Journal of Clinical Pathology (vol > 58, p 823, 860) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi I am looking forward to seeing how this progresses too. It will be interesting to see how other researchers tie their findings in with this gene research. Back in the early 80s local haematologists were using lymphocyte studies to confirm PVS/PVFS and ME: they found atypical lymphocytes, high helper T cells and low supressor T cells. Patients were told this meant they could no longer be told it was all in the mind, but of course many doctors still did. Cheers, Tansy > > Chronic fatigue is not all in the mind > > 23 July 2005 > > NewScientist.com news service > > Rowan Hooper > > > > AT LONG last, we are beginning to get to grips with chronic > fatigue > > syndrome. Differences in gene expression have been found in the > > immune cells of peoplewith the disease, a discovery that could > lead > > to a blood test for the disorderand perhaps even to drugs for > > treating it.The symptoms of chronic fatigue syndrome have been > > compared to those of areally bad hangover: extreme weakness, > > inability to think straight, disruptedsleep and headache. But > unlike > > a hangover, the symptoms linger for years,devastating people's > lives. > > While nobody doubts CFS exists, just about every aspect of it is > > controversial. Some say it is the same as myalgic > encephalomyelitis, > > or ME; others disagree. Many specialists are convinced it does > have a > > biological basis, but pinning down physical abnormalities common > to > > all patients has proved tough. > > > > Peoplewith CFS have often received little sympathy from doctors > who > > dismiss it as " all in the mind " .Now Kerr's team, which is > > moving to St 's University of London,has compared levels of > > gene expression in the white blood cells of 25 healthyindividuals > > with those in 25 patients diagnosed as having CFS according > tostrict > > criteria. The researchers found differences in 35 of the 9522 > genes > > they analysed using DNA chip technology. The few similar studies > done > > in the past have produced conflicting results, so the team double- > > checked their results using a more accurate method calledreal- time > > PCR. That confirmed that 15 of the genes were up to four times as > > active in people with CFS, while one gene was less active. The > > results will appear in the Journal of Clinical Pathology next > month. > > > > Kerr is repeating the study in 1000 CFS patients and healthy > > controls, this time looking at 47,000 gene products. So far, the > > larger study backs up the earlier results, he told New > Scientist.If > > Kerr really has succeeded where many have failed, and identified > > clear physical changes in people with CFS, the lingering opinion > that > > it is " all inthe mind " could finally be laid to rest. " This > exciting > > new work shows that some aspects of this complex illness may be > > understandable in molecular terms, and that CFS is not a 'made up' > > illness, " says Lane, a neurologist at Charing Cross > Hospital > > in London. It should also be possible to develop a blood test for > > CFS. > > > > The team has already discovered differences in blood proteins > related > > to the changes in geneexpression.Kerr hopes the work might even > lead > > to treatments. " We have shown that asignificant part of the > > pathogenesis resides in the white blood cells and intheir > activity, " > > he says. " It will open the door to development ofpharmacological > > interventions. " Several of the genes identified by the team in CFS > > play important roles inmitochondria, the power factories of our > > cells. " The involvement of such genesdoes seem to fit with the > fact > > that these patients lack energy and suffer fromfatigue, " Kerr > says. > > One of these gene products, EIF4G1, is involved in protein > production > > inmitochondria. It is hijacked by some viruses, so cells may > > compensate by ramping up gene expression. > > > > " I am excited by the paper, " says Basant Puri, a CFS expert at > > Hammersmith Hospital in London. " The group's finding > ofupregulation > > of EIF4G1 is consistent with subclinical persistent viral > > infection. " This fits in with the idea that CFS is sometimes > triggered > > by viruses such asEpstein-Barr, Q fever, enteroviruses and > parvovirus > > B19. " CFS often begins witha flu-like illness which never goes > away, " > > Kerr says. Of the other genes whose expression varies in CFS > > patients, some are involved in regulating the activity of the > immune > > system. Others play important roles in nerve cells, including a > gene > > called NTE, which codes for an enzyme affected by organophosphates > > and nerve gases.Journal reference: Journal of Clinical Pathology > (vol > > 58, p 823, 860) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 > Chronic fatigue is not all in the mind > 23 July 2005 > NewScientist.com news service > Rowan Hooper > Hi Tansy This information made the 8 am news on GMTV this morning. They said that ME is a definite illness because sufferers' blood is different from healthy subjects, thereby implying it definitely isn't " all in the mind " which of course we knew all along. What will Wessley et al say now? Thanks so much for posting this info, I have been searching for fuller details without success. Best Wishes Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hi Pam There have been articles in The Telegraph and it's featured on the BBC news website too http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4702515.stm Alongside Dr Gow's work in Glasgow and gene research from the US already published the Wessely School are going to hard to work even harder to validate their functional somatic disorders. This research also picked up on toxins too which comes us no surprise. The full New Scentist article posted on the co cure archives, I prefer to see the original text rather than reviews because there can sometimes be persoanl interpretations of what is written. My MP will be delighted with this, he has also been trying to help his contituents with GWI/S in which there are major overlaps, government depts take more notice of him that they do ME/CFS and GWS advocates. Cheers, Tansy > > Chronic fatigue is not all in the mind > > 23 July 2005 > > NewScientist.com news service > > Rowan Hooper > > > Hi Tansy > > This information made the 8 am news on GMTV this morning. They said > that ME is a definite illness because sufferers' blood is different > from healthy subjects, thereby implying it definitely isn't " all in > the mind " which of course we knew all along. What will Wessley et > al say now? > > Thanks so much for posting this info, I have been searching for > fuller details without success. > > Best Wishes > > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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