Re: h. pylori remedy (abx + lactoferrin)

[Guest guest]

The use of the probitoic lactoferrin has also been found to

be beneficial with abx for h. pylori

Barb

J Clin Gastroenterol. 2003 May-Jun;36(5):396-8.

Use of lactoferrin for Helicobacter pylori eradication. Preliminary

results.

Di F, Aragona G, Bo ND, Ingegnoli A, Cavestro GM, Moussa AM,

Iori V, Leandro G, Pilotto A, Franze A.

Section of Gastroenterology, University of Parma, Italy.

francesco.dimario@...

BACKGROUND: One-week triple therapy is the most frequently

recommended treatment of Helicobacter pylori infection. The

associated eradication rate is satisfactory; nevertheless, it is

advisable to look for more effective therapies. Our aim was to test

the efficacy of a standard triple therapy plus bovine lactoferrin for

the eradication of H. pylori infection. STUDY: This open, randomized,

single-center study was designed to include 150 consecutive H. pylori-

positive patients with dyspeptic symptoms and gastritis who received

triple therapy with rabeprazole, clarithromycin, and tinidazole plus

lactoferrin for 7 days (group A), rabeprazole, clarithromycin, and

tinidazole for 7 days (group , or rabeprazole, clarithromycin, and

tinidazole for 10 days (group C). H. pylori status was assessed 8

weeks after the end of treatment by means of the 13C-urea breath test

or H. pylori stool antigen test.

RESULTS: The 7-day treatment including lactoferrin (group A) was

successful in 100% (24/24) of the patients. The eradication rates in

groups B and C were 76.9% (20/26 patients; 95% CI, 61%-93%) and 70.8%

(17/24 patients; 95% CI, 53%-89%), respectively. A significant

difference was found between group A and group B (P = 0.023) and

group A and group C (P = 0.022). No differences were found between

group B and group C (P = 1.00).

CONCLUSION: These results suggest that lactoferrin could be a new,

effective agent when added to antimicrobial therapy for the

eradication of H. pylori. This treatment schedule could be proposed

for larger trials of H. pylori eradication therapy, focusing on the

excellent preliminary cure rate, good compliance to the treatment

schedule, and relatively low price of lactoferrin for full treatment.

Publication Types:

Clinical Trial

Randomized Controlled Trial

> > Does anyone have a remedy for the bacteria h. pylori that has

been

> > known to cause ulcers? I am thinking something along the lines of

> > graprefruit seed extract or olive leaf extract, but if there is

an

> > antibiotic, which is it?

> >

> > My alternative practitioner has identified an unknown infection

in my

> > upper GI that so far has not responded to doxy or flagyl even tho

our

> > testing method showed it would, so I am confused and need an

> > alternative, if possible, to antibiotic treatment.

> > This mystery infection hurts and has been around a long time,

> possibly

> > a few years and only now starting to cause constant discomfort.

> > Any advice, anyone? I am thinking that whatever kills h. pylori

would

> > probably have an effect on this one, too, but it's just a guess.

> > *S*

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Mastika gum is greek and european I believe. I recall having this

sent by relatives frequently whenever anyone visited from overseas.

Mastika is actually the greek word for gum.There's more europeans

with helicobacter pylori than most other westerner's with an 80%

infection rate as opposed to a 40% rate in the US.

The other head shaker for me is the difficulty associated with

clearnce, you can do IV's of all sorts and your still got

helicobacter.I would only buy into a theory on how to get rid of

this if it came from perth western australia. I actually hate this

part of modern medical literature which touts some simple answers to

complex questions.I actually had a neibour that was taking some

ginko belibo something or other that was going to cure an ear

infection that's taklen me 3 years to resolve with chaemotherpeutic

approaches.When your violently ill you need violent therapeutic

attempts it ain't going away with simple therapy I'm afraid- in my

own experiences.

If you've had what feels like battery acid running havoc thru your

anatomy it ain't going to recover with silymarin.You gotta do the 10

things to get your body right- simple therapies ain't enough.

To sum up on the helicobacter issue I would do the best triple

therapy with eradication success and follow up with the breath test

to make sure it's gone.The other stuff should not be taken as a cure

just a possable beneficial adjunct to thewrapy.

tony

> > > Does anyone have a remedy for the bacteria h. pylori that has

> been

> > > known to cause ulcers? I am thinking something along the lines

of

> > > graprefruit seed extract or olive leaf extract, but if there

is

> an

> > > antibiotic, which is it?

> > >

> > > My alternative practitioner has identified an unknown

infection

> in my

> > > upper GI that so far has not responded to doxy or flagyl even

tho

> our

> > > testing method showed it would, so I am confused and need an

> > > alternative, if possible, to antibiotic treatment.

> > > This mystery infection hurts and has been around a long time,

> > possibly

> > > a few years and only now starting to cause constant discomfort.

> > > Any advice, anyone? I am thinking that whatever kills h.

pylori

> would

> > > probably have an effect on this one, too, but it's just a

guess.

> > > *S*

[Guest guest]

Tony:

What do you think of the sequential use of abx, which is a relative

short course therapy for h. pylori? See #3715

Thanks,

Barb

> > > > Does anyone have a remedy for the bacteria h. pylori that has

> > been

> > > > known to cause ulcers? I am thinking something along the

lines

> of

> > > > graprefruit seed extract or olive leaf extract, but if there

> is

> > an

> > > > antibiotic, which is it?

> > > >

> > > > My alternative practitioner has identified an unknown

> infection

> > in my

> > > > upper GI that so far has not responded to doxy or flagyl even

> tho

> > our

> > > > testing method showed it would, so I am confused and need an

> > > > alternative, if possible, to antibiotic treatment.

> > > > This mystery infection hurts and has been around a long time,

> > > possibly

> > > > a few years and only now starting to cause constant

discomfort.

> > > > Any advice, anyone? I am thinking that whatever kills h.

> pylori

> > would

> > > > probably have an effect on this one, too, but it's just a

> guess.

> > > > *S*

[Guest guest]

BArb

With the h pylori I did see something on tv about how they developed

a vaccine and it was in trials for the 5% that have a hard time

elimenating the bug.With bacteria they really don't go down easily

once established, believe me I throw everything at establsihed

bacteria and it's not like they dissolve away. with therapy I feel

it's allowing a site to heal and discourage new growth when you do

succesfull antibiotics anything that's at the heart of success.

I belive that you make sure you get the volume and duration of

therapy at the site where it's required to get the job done.

I found most of my uncles would alway's do the double course of the

simple therapy to become h pylori negative so the simpler courses

seem to be required times two in most of my observations.

I didn't follow the sequential approach I watch bacteria and the way

it interacts and it's not a walk in the park. Actually playing the

wrong game with antibiotics see's development of secondary

pseudonomas auriganosa infections which no-one here knows anything

about.So low dose slow buildups possably favour the

pseudonomads.Actually the incredable thing is how common and never

discovered such a pathogen is in real time testing.

tony

> > > > > Does anyone have a remedy for the bacteria h. pylori that

has

> > > been

> > > > > known to cause ulcers? I am thinking something along the

> lines

> > of

> > > > > graprefruit seed extract or olive leaf extract, but if

there

> > is

> > > an

> > > > > antibiotic, which is it?

> > > > >

> > > > > My alternative practitioner has identified an unknown

> > infection

> > > in my

> > > > > upper GI that so far has not responded to doxy or flagyl

even

> > tho

> > > our

> > > > > testing method showed it would, so I am confused and need

an

> > > > > alternative, if possible, to antibiotic treatment.

> > > > > This mystery infection hurts and has been around a long

time,

> > > > possibly

> > > > > a few years and only now starting to cause constant

> discomfort.

> > > > > Any advice, anyone? I am thinking that whatever kills h.

> > pylori

> > > would

> > > > > probably have an effect on this one, too, but it's just a

> > guess.

> > > > > *S*

[Guest guest]

bARB

I often find that the literature is grossly misleading in real life

scenario's because ofetn antibiotic protocols are devloped around

silly uni student's that would get paid a few bucks to have an

infection established and then cured.When your real life and it

takes your doctor six months to years to get you on the right track-

therapy takes on a new perspective.

Also I do recall getting h pylori plates by accident one time so

it's easilyu cultivbated and often it's the gases that are looked

for being produced by the bacteria.

> > > > > Does anyone have a remedy for the bacteria h. pylori that

has

> > > been

> > > > > known to cause ulcers? I am thinking something along the

> lines

> > of

> > > > > graprefruit seed extract or olive leaf extract, but if

there

> > is

> > > an

> > > > > antibiotic, which is it?

> > > > >

> > > > > My alternative practitioner has identified an unknown

> > infection

> > > in my

> > > > > upper GI that so far has not responded to doxy or flagyl

even

> > tho

> > > our

> > > > > testing method showed it would, so I am confused and need

an

> > > > > alternative, if possible, to antibiotic treatment.

> > > > > This mystery infection hurts and has been around a long

time,

> > > > possibly

> > > > > a few years and only now starting to cause constant

> discomfort.

> > > > > Any advice, anyone? I am thinking that whatever kills h.

> > pylori

> > > would

> > > > > probably have an effect on this one, too, but it's just a

> > guess.

> > > > > *S*

[Guest guest]

Tony,

if you had read the article that Barb posted you would see that this protocol

was

developed based on the response of NATURALLY occuring h. pylori in OLDER ADULT

INDIVIDUALS with a mean age of 69.5.

> > > > > > Does anyone have a remedy for the bacteria h. pylori that

> has

> > > > been

> > > > > > known to cause ulcers? I am thinking something along the

> > lines

> > > of

> > > > > > graprefruit seed extract or olive leaf extract, but if

> there

> > > is

> > > > an

> > > > > > antibiotic, which is it?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > My alternative practitioner has identified an unknown

> > > infection

> > > > in my

> > > > > > upper GI that so far has not responded to doxy or flagyl

> even

> > > tho

> > > > our

> > > > > > testing method showed it would, so I am confused and need

> an

> > > > > > alternative, if possible, to antibiotic treatment.

> > > > > > This mystery infection hurts and has been around a long

> time,

> > > > > possibly

> > > > > > a few years and only now starting to cause constant

> > discomfort.

> > > > > > Any advice, anyone? I am thinking that whatever kills h.

> > > pylori

> > > > would

> > > > > > probably have an effect on this one, too, but it's just a

> > > guess.

> > > > > > *S*