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A patient had blood tests for suspected gout, which came back negative, but

he had elevated levels of red blood corpuscles, which his GP could not

explain but thought it may be due to his high intake of alcohol.

Can anyone elaborate on this, or advise other scenarios that result in

elevated red corpuscles.

Thanks.

Liz Lillicrap

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Sorry, forgot to say that I did not see the results, but patient though the

red blood corpuscle level was higher.

Thought it may make more sense if the RBC count was lower?

GP seemed unconcerned anyway.

Elevated red corpuscles

> A patient had blood tests for suspected gout, which came back negative,

but

> he had elevated levels of red blood corpuscles, which his GP could not

> explain but thought it may be due to his high intake of alcohol.

>

> Can anyone elaborate on this, or advise other scenarios that result in

> elevated red corpuscles.

>

> Thanks.

> Liz Lillicrap

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No - he has never smoked.

Would that make a difference to rbcs?

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Hello Tami

increased RBC would raise ESR by pure bulk alone , and can mask a raised ESR

which is simply a measure of increased blood proteins usually indicating

inflammation. The ESR is a very simple test where anticoagulated blood is

put into a clear graduated thin plastic tube, and is the column length of

clear plasma that appears when the blood has been left for one hour. It is

also affected by the number of RBC present.

High RBC levels will affect BP and clotting just by pressure of numbers but

doesn't greatly affect clotting.

High platelet count isn't an issue by itself (unless it is extremely high -

pretty rare - when it could cause intravascular coagulation) however

sometimes the platelets themselves are abnormal, in which case clotting

would be slower/reduced and bleeding would be a problem.

I would say that I am now some years out of haematology so am probably

becoming out of date - although it may be that some things don't change

regards

Herbert

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> I'm curious...Would the increased RBC's put someone at risk of increased

> ESR

> and possibly increased BP and clotting issues? Or, is that mainly an

> issue

> with high platelet count alone...? Just wonderin'.... Thx for anyone who

> might have perspective....

> Tami

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>> (I spent 20 years working in haematology and blood transfusion)

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I'm curious...Would the increased RBC's put someone at risk of increased ESR

and possibly increased BP and clotting issues? Or, is that mainly an issue

with high platelet count alone...? Just wonderin'.... Thx for anyone who

might have perspective....

Tami

NJ USA

> (I spent 20 years working in haematology and blood transfusion)

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I am also a few years out of haematology but would you agree that raised

rbcs without knowledge of mch and mchc does not tell us much.

Would it be an idea to get the patient to enquire about the rest of the

results if they are concerned which will allow a more thorough interpretation?

Whitton

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Leicester

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Hello

yes, rbc count alone is of little value, really you need all parameters to

give an opinion as to the situation. I would also want to know the MCV - are

the red cells large or small ?- lots of tiny rbc are less of a problem

mechanically but may indicate an iron def or a hamoglobinopathy - and the

Hb - if Hb is high then that indicates more of a mechanical problem with a

raised RBC. MCH and MCHC are most useful if there is an iron deficiency, and

in determining the cause of anaemia - ie due to blood loss or deficiency of

iron or folate/B12

regards

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> I am also a few years out of haematology but would you agree that raised

> rbcs without knowledge of mch and mchc does not tell us much.

> Would it be an idea to get the patient to enquire about the rest of the

> results if they are concerned which will allow a more thorough

> interpretation?

> Whitton

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> Phyto Research Ltd

> 30 Crafton Street West

> Leicester

> LE1 2DE

> Tel 0

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