Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 Sue, it might be worth spending the $200 to buy the DVD's from the 2004 conference by Yasko, Gordon and other doctors. I have to review the last DVD I watched again, as I only absorbed about half. Its very technical. There are 8 DVDs in all. I forget if I mentioned here, but glutamate is the gun and calcium the bullet. Magnesium reversibly inhibits the calcium influx. No wonder I do double or triple the amount of magnesium in my IV as calcium. Just always went by instinct there. Glutathione, I recall it helped , its also important. And I " m trying to remember what conserves glutathione--oh yes, NADH uses glutathione, so if you give NADH you won't use up extra glutathione. Why not have her try nebulizing with glutathione? The inspiration nebulizer is only $60. Glutathione is important in protecting against glutamate. Nots urprisingly so is gaba--again, no wonder the only drug I reluctantly succumb to this whole slyme time is temezaepm, a gaba receptor drug. Theanine protects. IE green tea. The one thign I did not see on the DVD's was scharffen berger chocolate --ggggg. Honestly tho I eat an ounce of the pure chocolate daily. It probably is bitter but I like the taste. I'm sure there's something protective, maybe the flavanoids, maybe the catecholamines, who knows. My recolleciton is that niacinamide protects another pathway-- trytophan? In these disease trytophan can be subverted into kynurenic acid? Is my memory on this correct? Don't know. Anyway tryptophan can be degraded into a somewhat toxic metabolite. > Matt wrote, " I do believe that glutamate toxicity is the cause of > significant suffering in at least some of us. " > > Thanks, Matt, for mentioning this. It had never registered with me > before. > > Yesterday on another list I read that there's a theory that low dose > naltrexone is a possible therapy for MS. There's a paper by a > researcher at the University of Iowa named Dr. Yash Agrawal that > mentions the excitatory neurotoxicitity of glutamate on neuronal cells. > I'm sure you already knew this, but others might have missed it.. > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=15694688 & itool=iconabst r & > query_hl=2 > > In an easy-to-read interview Agrawal talks more about glutamate > toxicity. He said, " The area of free radical biology and oxidative > stress is quite complex, " and then he proceeded to explain it so > clearly that even I could understand what he was saying. > > http://www.bostoncure.org:8080/article.pl?sid=05/01/27/1748256 > > Sue , > Upstate New York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Hi, Jill. Since you're considering nebulizing glutathione, I want to pass on what I was told recently via email by Hudson and Bishop. ( is the Ph.D. poli. sci. prof at BYU who came up with the hypothesis about inability of cystic fibrosis people to export glutathione from their alveolar epithelial cells into the epithelial lining fluid of their lungs. is an M.D. in Utah who published a recent study on nebulized glutathione for cystic fibrosis. has three boys with cystic fibrosis.) wrote me that she recommends that people buy the buffered reduced glutathione in capsules from http://www.theranaturals.com These are the ones that are buffered with sodium bicarbonate. She adds the contents of one capsule to 3 or 4 cc of boiled water, and puts that in the nebulizer. The website says 5 cc, but she wrote that 3 to 4 is better. wrote me that the buffering with sodium bicarbonate is important for avoiding bronchoconstriction when nebulizing glutathione. There is a paper in the literature that reports that people who are subject to asthma attacks are particularly prone to developing bronchoconstriction under nebulized glutathione. In this case, it seems to result from a particular sensitivity to sulfites, which automatically form in small concentrations as part of the chemical equilibration that occurs among sulfur-containing species whenever glutathione is added to water. Rich > Sue, it might be worth spending the $200 to buy the DVD's from the > 2004 conference by Yasko, Gordon and other doctors. I have to review > the last DVD I watched again, as I only absorbed about half. Its very > technical. There are 8 DVDs in all. > > I forget if I mentioned here, but glutamate is the gun and calcium > the bullet. Magnesium reversibly inhibits the calcium influx. No > wonder I do double or triple the amount of magnesium in my IV as > calcium. Just always went by instinct there. > > Glutathione, I recall it helped , its also important. And I " m > trying to remember what conserves glutathione--oh yes, NADH uses > glutathione, so if you give NADH you won't use up extra glutathione. > Why not have her try nebulizing with glutathione? The inspiration > nebulizer is only $60. > > Glutathione is important in protecting against glutamate. > > Nots urprisingly so is gaba--again, no wonder the only drug I > reluctantly succumb to this whole slyme time is temezaepm, a gaba > receptor drug. > > Theanine protects. IE green tea. > > The one thign I did not see on the DVD's was scharffen berger > chocolate --ggggg. Honestly tho I eat an ounce of the pure chocolate > daily. It probably is bitter but I like the taste. I'm sure there's > something protective, maybe the flavanoids, maybe the catecholamines, > who knows. > > My recolleciton is that niacinamide protects another pathway-- > trytophan? In these disease trytophan can be subverted into kynurenic > acid? Is my memory on this correct? Don't know. Anyway tryptophan can > be degraded into a somewhat toxic metabolite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Thanks so much Rich, for the info. I've got a nebulizer, and if I can buy the glutathione without a prescription, I might give it a try. The I.V. version didn't seem to do much but perhaps the nebulizing will be an improvement. penny > > Sue, it might be worth spending the $200 to buy the DVD's from the > > 2004 conference by Yasko, Gordon and other doctors. I have to > review > > the last DVD I watched again, as I only absorbed about half. Its > very > > technical. There are 8 DVDs in all. > > > > I forget if I mentioned here, but glutamate is the gun and > calcium > > the bullet. Magnesium reversibly inhibits the calcium influx. No > > wonder I do double or triple the amount of magnesium in my IV as > > calcium. Just always went by instinct there. > > > > Glutathione, I recall it helped , its also important. And > I " m > > trying to remember what conserves glutathione--oh yes, NADH uses > > glutathione, so if you give NADH you won't use up extra > glutathione. > > Why not have her try nebulizing with glutathione? The inspiration > > nebulizer is only $60. > > > > Glutathione is important in protecting against glutamate. > > > > Nots urprisingly so is gaba--again, no wonder the only drug I > > reluctantly succumb to this whole slyme time is temezaepm, a gaba > > receptor drug. > > > > Theanine protects. IE green tea. > > > > The one thign I did not see on the DVD's was scharffen berger > > chocolate --ggggg. Honestly tho I eat an ounce of the pure > chocolate > > daily. It probably is bitter but I like the taste. I'm sure > there's > > something protective, maybe the flavanoids, maybe the > catecholamines, > > who knows. > > > > My recolleciton is that niacinamide protects another pathway-- > > trytophan? In these disease trytophan can be subverted into > kynurenic > > acid? Is my memory on this correct? Don't know. Anyway tryptophan > can > > be degraded into a somewhat toxic metabolite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Hmmm. I don't trust this idea, of capsules, which I would have no proof are pure and still viable; and boiled water either, which isn't pure at least not in my home, its just filtered with PUR filters. I'm glad its working for them but I want to use vials from Wellness Pharmacy which are pure. My friend is using college pharmacy without any problem. But I don't like college pharmacy, I like wellness. I appreciate the advice tho. If I do get some kind of bronchoconstriction I'll consider it. I haven't gotten around to this yet at all. > > Sue, it might be worth spending the $200 to buy the DVD's from the > > 2004 conference by Yasko, Gordon and other doctors. I have to > review > > the last DVD I watched again, as I only absorbed about half. Its > very > > technical. There are 8 DVDs in all. > > > > I forget if I mentioned here, but glutamate is the gun and > calcium > > the bullet. Magnesium reversibly inhibits the calcium influx. No > > wonder I do double or triple the amount of magnesium in my IV as > > calcium. Just always went by instinct there. > > > > Glutathione, I recall it helped , its also important. And > I " m > > trying to remember what conserves glutathione--oh yes, NADH uses > > glutathione, so if you give NADH you won't use up extra > glutathione. > > Why not have her try nebulizing with glutathione? The inspiration > > nebulizer is only $60. > > > > Glutathione is important in protecting against glutamate. > > > > Nots urprisingly so is gaba--again, no wonder the only drug I > > reluctantly succumb to this whole slyme time is temezaepm, a gaba > > receptor drug. > > > > Theanine protects. IE green tea. > > > > The one thign I did not see on the DVD's was scharffen berger > > chocolate --ggggg. Honestly tho I eat an ounce of the pure > chocolate > > daily. It probably is bitter but I like the taste. I'm sure > there's > > something protective, maybe the flavanoids, maybe the > catecholamines, > > who knows. > > > > My recolleciton is that niacinamide protects another pathway-- > > trytophan? In these disease trytophan can be subverted into > kynurenic > > acid? Is my memory on this correct? Don't know. Anyway tryptophan > can > > be degraded into a somewhat toxic metabolite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Jill, O.K. You probably know that once glutathione is added to water, it starts breaking down, and it needs to be kept refrigerated, because the water facilitates its breakdown. Wellness has a patent that involves pH and temperature control to optimize the shelf life of reduced glutathione in solution, and how it is shipped and stored is important. Boiling will kill essentially all the pathogens in water, but if you have a better source of purified water, more's the better! I think a lot of the medical stuff is sterilized using ionizing radiation, but I don't know what process Wellness uses. I think Wellness is a good outfit, too. Rich > > > Sue, it might be worth spending the $200 to buy the DVD's from > the > > > 2004 conference by Yasko, Gordon and other doctors. I have to > > review > > > the last DVD I watched again, as I only absorbed about half. Its > > very > > > technical. There are 8 DVDs in all. > > > > > > I forget if I mentioned here, but glutamate is the gun and > > calcium > > > the bullet. Magnesium reversibly inhibits the calcium influx. No > > > wonder I do double or triple the amount of magnesium in my IV as > > > calcium. Just always went by instinct there. > > > > > > Glutathione, I recall it helped , its also important. And > > I " m > > > trying to remember what conserves glutathione--oh yes, NADH uses > > > glutathione, so if you give NADH you won't use up extra > > glutathione. > > > Why not have her try nebulizing with glutathione? The inspiration > > > nebulizer is only $60. > > > > > > Glutathione is important in protecting against glutamate. > > > > > > Nots urprisingly so is gaba--again, no wonder the only drug I > > > reluctantly succumb to this whole slyme time is temezaepm, a gaba > > > receptor drug. > > > > > > Theanine protects. IE green tea. > > > > > > The one thign I did not see on the DVD's was scharffen berger > > > chocolate --ggggg. Honestly tho I eat an ounce of the pure > > chocolate > > > daily. It probably is bitter but I like the taste. I'm sure > > there's > > > something protective, maybe the flavanoids, maybe the > > catecholamines, > > > who knows. > > > > > > My recolleciton is that niacinamide protects another pathway-- > > > trytophan? In these disease trytophan can be subverted into > > kynurenic > > > acid? Is my memory on this correct? Don't know. Anyway tryptophan > > can > > > be degraded into a somewhat toxic metabolite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Penny Just nebulize the bicarb soda it's very antimicrobial in action. I would expect that part of the treatment strategy will do more than anything else you add. Actually it would be so succesfull that vitamins or glutathione may be falsely interpreted as doing a lot of good. I frequently nebulize bicarb soda for it's huge antimicrobial benefits.It uses osmosis for killing bacteria and adding oxygen moleclues from the nebuilizer is a huge plus. > > > Sue, it might be worth spending the $200 to buy the DVD's from > the > > > 2004 conference by Yasko, Gordon and other doctors. I have to > > review > > > the last DVD I watched again, as I only absorbed about half. Its > > very > > > technical. There are 8 DVDs in all. > > > > > > I forget if I mentioned here, but glutamate is the gun and > > calcium > > > the bullet. Magnesium reversibly inhibits the calcium influx. No > > > wonder I do double or triple the amount of magnesium in my IV as > > > calcium. Just always went by instinct there. > > > > > > Glutathione, I recall it helped , its also important. And > > I " m > > > trying to remember what conserves glutathione--oh yes, NADH uses > > > glutathione, so if you give NADH you won't use up extra > > glutathione. > > > Why not have her try nebulizing with glutathione? The > inspiration > > > nebulizer is only $60. > > > > > > Glutathione is important in protecting against glutamate. > > > > > > Nots urprisingly so is gaba--again, no wonder the only drug I > > > reluctantly succumb to this whole slyme time is temezaepm, a > gaba > > > receptor drug. > > > > > > Theanine protects. IE green tea. > > > > > > The one thign I did not see on the DVD's was scharffen berger > > > chocolate --ggggg. Honestly tho I eat an ounce of the pure > > chocolate > > > daily. It probably is bitter but I like the taste. I'm sure > > there's > > > something protective, maybe the flavanoids, maybe the > > catecholamines, > > > who knows. > > > > > > My recolleciton is that niacinamide protects another pathway-- > > > trytophan? In these disease trytophan can be subverted into > > kynurenic > > > acid? Is my memory on this correct? Don't know. Anyway > tryptophan > > can > > > be degraded into a somewhat toxic metabolite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Is this nasal nebulizer? My doc says he won't perscribe it because too many say it burns. Marie --- rvankonynen <richvank@...> wrote: > Hi, Jill. > > Since you're considering nebulizing glutathione, I > want to pass on > what I was told recently via email by Hudson > and > Bishop. ( is the Ph.D. poli. sci. prof at > BYU who came up > with the hypothesis about inability of cystic > fibrosis people to > export glutathione from their alveolar epithelial > cells into the > epithelial lining fluid of their lungs. is an > M.D. in Utah > who published a recent study on nebulized > glutathione for cystic > fibrosis. has three boys with cystic > fibrosis.) > > wrote me that she recommends that people buy > the buffered > reduced glutathione in capsules from > http://www.theranaturals.com > These are the ones that are buffered with sodium > bicarbonate. She > adds the contents of one capsule to 3 or 4 cc of > boiled water, and > puts that in the nebulizer. The website says 5 cc, > but she wrote > that 3 to 4 is better. > > wrote me that the buffering with sodium > bicarbonate is > important for avoiding bronchoconstriction when > nebulizing > glutathione. > > There is a paper in the literature that reports that > people who are > subject to asthma attacks are particularly prone to > developing > bronchoconstriction under nebulized glutathione. In > this case, it > seems to result from a particular sensitivity to > sulfites, which > automatically form in small concentrations as part > of the chemical > equilibration that occurs among sulfur-containing > species whenever > glutathione is added to water. > > Rich > > > > Sue, it might be worth spending the $200 to buy > the DVD's from the > > 2004 conference by Yasko, Gordon and other > doctors. I have to > review > > the last DVD I watched again, as I only absorbed > about half. Its > very > > technical. There are 8 DVDs in all. > > > > I forget if I mentioned here, but glutamate is > the gun and > calcium > > the bullet. Magnesium reversibly inhibits the > calcium influx. No > > wonder I do double or triple the amount of > magnesium in my IV as > > calcium. Just always went by instinct there. > > > > Glutathione, I recall it helped , its also > important. And > I " m > > trying to remember what conserves glutathione--oh > yes, NADH uses > > glutathione, so if you give NADH you won't use up > extra > glutathione. > > Why not have her try nebulizing with glutathione? > The inspiration > > nebulizer is only $60. > > > > Glutathione is important in protecting against > glutamate. > > > > Nots urprisingly so is gaba--again, no wonder the > only drug I > > reluctantly succumb to this whole slyme time is > temezaepm, a gaba > > receptor drug. > > > > Theanine protects. IE green tea. > > > > The one thign I did not see on the DVD's was > scharffen berger > > chocolate --ggggg. Honestly tho I eat an ounce of > the pure > chocolate > > daily. It probably is bitter but I like the taste. > I'm sure > there's > > something protective, maybe the flavanoids, maybe > the > catecholamines, > > who knows. > > > > My recolleciton is that niacinamide protects > another pathway-- > > trytophan? In these disease trytophan can be > subverted into > kynurenic > > acid? Is my memory on this correct? Don't know. > Anyway tryptophan > can > > be degraded into a somewhat toxic metabolite. > > > > > __________________________________ Discover Use to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 You don't need a prescription to buy a nebulizer anymore. You need a prescription for the abx that are specifically formulated for the nebulizer (designed, the manufacturer says, to prevent entry into your lungs). Of course, Tony has disregarded that and nebulizes whatever he wants. I never had ANY burning from any of the abx I nebulized EXCEPT cipro, which caused me to cough for hours after a treatment. Really harsh on the throat, but that was just the cipro. I did tobramycin, and a few others, I can't recall, and it was like breathing cool steam. Very easy. Just a little noisy so if you're watching t.v. or listening to music, you've got to turn it up. :-) penny > > > Sue, it might be worth spending the $200 to buy > > the DVD's from the > > > 2004 conference by Yasko, Gordon and other > > doctors. I have to > > review > > > the last DVD I watched again, as I only absorbed > > about half. Its > > very > > > technical. There are 8 DVDs in all. > > > > > > I forget if I mentioned here, but glutamate is > > the gun and > > calcium > > > the bullet. Magnesium reversibly inhibits the > > calcium influx. No > > > wonder I do double or triple the amount of > > magnesium in my IV as > > > calcium. Just always went by instinct there. > > > > > > Glutathione, I recall it helped , its also > > important. And > > I " m > > > trying to remember what conserves glutathione--oh > > yes, NADH uses > > > glutathione, so if you give NADH you won't use up > > extra > > glutathione. > > > Why not have her try nebulizing with glutathione? > > The inspiration > > > nebulizer is only $60. > > > > > > Glutathione is important in protecting against > > glutamate. > > > > > > Nots urprisingly so is gaba--again, no wonder the > > only drug I > > > reluctantly succumb to this whole slyme time is > > temezaepm, a gaba > > > receptor drug. > > > > > > Theanine protects. IE green tea. > > > > > > The one thign I did not see on the DVD's was > > scharffen berger > > > chocolate --ggggg. Honestly tho I eat an ounce of > > the pure > > chocolate > > > daily. It probably is bitter but I like the taste. > > I'm sure > > there's > > > something protective, maybe the flavanoids, maybe > > the > > catecholamines, > > > who knows. > > > > > > My recolleciton is that niacinamide protects > > another pathway-- > > > trytophan? In these disease trytophan can be > > subverted into > > kynurenic > > > acid? Is my memory on this correct? Don't know. > > Anyway tryptophan > > can > > > be degraded into a somewhat toxic metabolite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Discover > Use to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! > http://discover./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 No this is for your lungs I tried the nasal glutathione, it didn't burn, but I didn't feel it did much. > > > Sue, it might be worth spending the $200 to buy > > the DVD's from the > > > 2004 conference by Yasko, Gordon and other > > doctors. I have to > > review > > > the last DVD I watched again, as I only absorbed > > about half. Its > > very > > > technical. There are 8 DVDs in all. > > > > > > I forget if I mentioned here, but glutamate is > > the gun and > > calcium > > > the bullet. Magnesium reversibly inhibits the > > calcium influx. No > > > wonder I do double or triple the amount of > > magnesium in my IV as > > > calcium. Just always went by instinct there. > > > > > > Glutathione, I recall it helped , its also > > important. And > > I " m > > > trying to remember what conserves glutathione--oh > > yes, NADH uses > > > glutathione, so if you give NADH you won't use up > > extra > > glutathione. > > > Why not have her try nebulizing with glutathione? > > The inspiration > > > nebulizer is only $60. > > > > > > Glutathione is important in protecting against > > glutamate. > > > > > > Nots urprisingly so is gaba--again, no wonder the > > only drug I > > > reluctantly succumb to this whole slyme time is > > temezaepm, a gaba > > > receptor drug. > > > > > > Theanine protects. IE green tea. > > > > > > The one thign I did not see on the DVD's was > > scharffen berger > > > chocolate --ggggg. Honestly tho I eat an ounce of > > the pure > > chocolate > > > daily. It probably is bitter but I like the taste. > > I'm sure > > there's > > > something protective, maybe the flavanoids, maybe > > the > > catecholamines, > > > who knows. > > > > > > My recolleciton is that niacinamide protects > > another pathway-- > > > trytophan? In these disease trytophan can be > > subverted into > > kynurenic > > > acid? Is my memory on this correct? Don't know. > > Anyway tryptophan > > can > > > be degraded into a somewhat toxic metabolite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Discover > Use to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! > http://discover./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Penny, I know about nebulizing. I am on the nebulizer using Ipratropium Bromide for asthma and COPD as I write this. Use it twice a day. I always tune into I & I and mentally detach from the noise. I also have used nebulized antibiotics for chronic sinusitis but they never did any good, only exaserbated my asthma. Cipro was really bad. My question was-is the glutithione being nebulized through the nose or mouth. My Dr. said he tried using it through the nose with poor results so he won't perscribe it anymore. Most patients complained of a burning sensation. He did say Glutithion is a good thing and would perscribe it if he had an effective delivery system. I also have done glutithione along with B vits and C. The affect was good but only lasted a day or two. Marie --- penny <pennyhoule@...> wrote: > You don't need a prescription to buy a nebulizer > anymore. You need a > prescription for the abx that are specifically > formulated for the > nebulizer (designed, the manufacturer says, to > prevent entry into > your lungs). Of course, Tony has disregarded that > and nebulizes > whatever he wants. > > I never had ANY burning from any of the abx I > nebulized EXCEPT > cipro, which caused me to cough for hours after a > treatment. Really > harsh on the throat, but that was just the cipro. I > did tobramycin, > and a few others, I can't recall, and it was like > breathing cool > steam. Very easy. Just a little noisy so if you're > watching t.v. or > listening to music, you've got to turn it up. :-) > > penny > > > > > > > Sue, it might be worth spending the $200 to > buy > > > the DVD's from the > > > > 2004 conference by Yasko, Gordon and other > > > doctors. I have to > > > review > > > > the last DVD I watched again, as I only > absorbed > > > about half. Its > > > very > > > > technical. There are 8 DVDs in all. > > > > > > > > I forget if I mentioned here, but glutamate > is > > > the gun and > > > calcium > > > > the bullet. Magnesium reversibly inhibits the > > > calcium influx. No > > > > wonder I do double or triple the amount of > > > magnesium in my IV as > > > > calcium. Just always went by instinct there. > > > > > > > > Glutathione, I recall it helped , its > also > > > important. And > > > I " m > > > > trying to remember what conserves > glutathione--oh > > > yes, NADH uses > > > > glutathione, so if you give NADH you won't use > up > > > extra > > > glutathione. > > > > Why not have her try nebulizing with > glutathione? > > > The inspiration > > > > nebulizer is only $60. > > > > > > > > Glutathione is important in protecting against > > > glutamate. > > > > > > > > Nots urprisingly so is gaba--again, no wonder > the > > > only drug I > > > > reluctantly succumb to this whole slyme time > is > > > temezaepm, a gaba > > > > receptor drug. > > > > > > > > Theanine protects. IE green tea. > > > > > > > > The one thign I did not see on the DVD's was > > > scharffen berger > > > > chocolate --ggggg. Honestly tho I eat an ounce > of > > > the pure > > > chocolate > > > > daily. It probably is bitter but I like the > taste. > > > I'm sure > > > there's > > > > something protective, maybe the flavanoids, > maybe > > > the > > > catecholamines, > > > > who knows. > > > > > > > > My recolleciton is that niacinamide protects > > > another pathway-- > > > > trytophan? In these disease trytophan can be > > > subverted into > > > kynurenic > > > > acid? Is my memory on this correct? Don't > know. > > > Anyway tryptophan > > > can > > > > be degraded into a somewhat toxic metabolite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Discover > > Use to plan a weekend, have fun online and > more. Check it > out! > > http://discover./ > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 OK, sometimes I have to read a post more than once before I make sense of it. I see that you already answered my question. Thanks, Marie --- jill1313 <jenbooks13@...> wrote: > No this is for your lungs > I tried the nasal glutathione, it didn't burn, but I > didn't feel it > did much. > > > > > > Sue, it might be worth spending the $200 to > buy > > > the DVD's from the > > > > 2004 conference by Yasko, Gordon and other > > > doctors. I have to > > > review > > > > the last DVD I watched again, as I only > absorbed > > > about half. Its > > > very > > > > technical. There are 8 DVDs in all. > > > > > > > > I forget if I mentioned here, but glutamate > is > > > the gun and > > > calcium > > > > the bullet. Magnesium reversibly inhibits the > > > calcium influx. No > > > > wonder I do double or triple the amount of > > > magnesium in my IV as > > > > calcium. Just always went by instinct there. > > > > > > > > Glutathione, I recall it helped , its > also > > > important. And > > > I " m > > > > trying to remember what conserves > glutathione--oh > > > yes, NADH uses > > > > glutathione, so if you give NADH you won't use > up > > > extra > > > glutathione. > > > > Why not have her try nebulizing with > glutathione? > > > The inspiration > > > > nebulizer is only $60. > > > > > > > > Glutathione is important in protecting against > > > glutamate. > > > > > > > > Nots urprisingly so is gaba--again, no wonder > the > > > only drug I > > > > reluctantly succumb to this whole slyme time > is > > > temezaepm, a gaba > > > > receptor drug. > > > > > > > > Theanine protects. IE green tea. > > > > > > > > The one thign I did not see on the DVD's was > > > scharffen berger > > > > chocolate --ggggg. Honestly tho I eat an ounce > of > > > the pure > > > chocolate > > > > daily. It probably is bitter but I like the > taste. > > > I'm sure > > > there's > > > > something protective, maybe the flavanoids, > maybe > > > the > > > catecholamines, > > > > who knows. > > > > > > > > My recolleciton is that niacinamide protects > > > another pathway-- > > > > trytophan? In these disease trytophan can be > > > subverted into > > > kynurenic > > > > acid? Is my memory on this correct? Don't > know. > > > Anyway tryptophan > > > can > > > > be degraded into a somewhat toxic metabolite. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Discover > > Use to plan a weekend, have fun online and > more. Check it > out! > > http://discover./ > > > __________________________________ Discover Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover./weekend.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Sue This is another very interesting lead. Thanks for finding it. Matt > Matt wrote, " I do believe that glutamate toxicity is the cause of > significant suffering in at least some of us. " > > Thanks, Matt, for mentioning this. It had never registered with me > before. > > Yesterday on another list I read that there's a theory that low dose > naltrexone is a possible therapy for MS. There's a paper by a > researcher at the University of Iowa named Dr. Yash Agrawal that > mentions the excitatory neurotoxicitity of glutamate on neuronal cells. > I'm sure you already knew this, but others might have missed it.. > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=15694688 & itool=iconabstr & > query_hl=2 > > In an easy-to-read interview Agrawal talks more about glutamate > toxicity. He said, " The area of free radical biology and oxidative > stress is quite complex, " and then he proceeded to explain it so > clearly that even I could understand what he was saying. > > http://www.bostoncure.org:8080/article.pl?sid=05/01/27/1748256 > > Sue , > Upstate New York Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2005 Report Share Posted June 29, 2005 My mistake. I realized after reading Jill's response that you were speaking specifically of glutathione. But perhaps someone else will benefit from knowing that nebulizers are easily available. Whether they'll work for a person is another story. Tony has used an asthma machine instead of a nebulizer with no problems. Another friend I know can't use the nebulizer because, like you, it causes asthma flares. Go figure. penny <msmabrry@y...> wrote: > Penny, > I know about nebulizing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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