Re: GER>ENG, lumbar surgery terms

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 25/05/2006 16:03:33 GMT Daylight Time,

karinaclement@... writes:

Actually I wanted to ask you if it's not " trichter "

It was, and is ;-)

[Guest guest]

On the final grade? Doesn't sound English to me at all, and not surprising,

really, given that the answerer is a native German speaker. That's one reason

I gave up on Proz in disgust: members keep offering absurd answers in a

language they barely speak.

FBA also came up in my text, and I did work out that it's finger-floor

distance (the hyphen is essential).

Thanks!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 25/05/2006 17:18:45 GMT Daylight Time,

TCreutz@... writes:

So it is! Look at this: http://kaempf.com/0105144.htm Appears to be used

in microdissection. Now someone here must know what to call it ...

So - what about a funnel retractor?

[Guest guest]

The correct term should be " restricted end-range of motion "

Really not a native versus non-native speaker issue in my opinion, it's

strictly familiarity (or lack thereof " with medical terminology.

My 2 cents worth.

Gisela Greenlee

[Guest guest]

" T. Creutz " a écrit : From your description,

the " Spreizrichter " has got to be a

retractor, but the usual term for that is " Spreizer, "

sometimes " Spreizinstrument, " the same words used for a spreader.

Your author may have a particular retractor in mind, but there are

literally thousands of different kinds, and I can't find this

particular German term used anywhere. The underlying idea is to

spread and straighten, or set in place; but all retractors do that.

" Stanze " is indeed a punch. There are hundreds of different punches

used in surgery.

Creutz

Weymouth, MA, USA

>

>

>

> In an op report:

>

> 1. Spreiztrichter (no further details, except that it is

introduced after

> the muscles have been separated longitudinally, presumably to

allow access to

> the lumbar spine) - can I just use 'spreader', or is that too

much like

> agricultural machinery for spreading fertiliser on a cabbage

field?

>

> 2. Flavumresektion mittels *** Stanze *** - a punch???

>

> 3. *** Einfahren *** des OP-Mikroskops - can't think of a neat

term other

> than 'introducing', and I have already overused it.

>

> 4. The sequester is *** mehrfach *** fragmented - again, just

looking for an

> elegant way of putting it. I need more coffee, I think, as I am

falling

> asleep over this one.

>

> 5. Einlegen einer subfascialen Minivacdrainage, *** Ausleitung

*** nach

> lateral - ???

>

> 6. LWS-Beweglichkeit *** endgradig *** eingeschraenkt - ???

>

> Many thanks for any and all help,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

OOPSS. I sent my answer too soon. Actually I wanted to ask you if it's not

" trichter " instead of " richter " , which is " ecarteur à bec " in French. I am

looking for the English translation right now. It's a special retractor used for

orthopedic surgery.

If you need another on line German/English dictionary, here is the address:

http://www.dict.cc/deutsch-englisch/Stanze.html.

I hope it’ll help you out!

karina clement a écrit :

" T. Creutz " a écrit : From your description,

the " Spreizrichter " has got to be a

retractor, but the usual term for that is " Spreizer, "

sometimes " Spreizinstrument, " the same words used for a spreader.

Your author may have a particular retractor in mind, but there are

literally thousands of different kinds, and I can't find this

particular German term used anywhere. The underlying idea is to

spread and straighten, or set in place; but all retractors do that.

" Stanze " is indeed a punch. There are hundreds of different punches

used in surgery.

Creutz

Weymouth, MA, USA

>

>

>

> In an op report:

>

> 1. Spreiztrichter (no further details, except that it is

introduced after

> the muscles have been separated longitudinally, presumably to

allow access to

> the lumbar spine) - can I just use 'spreader', or is that too

much like

> agricultural machinery for spreading fertiliser on a cabbage

field?

>

> 2. Flavumresektion mittels *** Stanze *** - a punch???

>

> 3. *** Einfahren *** des OP-Mikroskops - can't think of a neat

term other

> than 'introducing', and I have already overused it.

>

> 4. The sequester is *** mehrfach *** fragmented - again, just

looking for an

> elegant way of putting it. I need more coffee, I think, as I am

falling

> asleep over this one.

>

> 5. Einlegen einer subfascialen Minivacdrainage, *** Ausleitung

*** nach

> lateral - ???

>

> 6. LWS-Beweglichkeit *** endgradig *** eingeschraenkt - ???

>

> Many thanks for any and all help,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just saw your answer!

What's about " funnel retractor " ?

karina clement a écrit :

OOPSS. I sent my answer too soon. Actually I wanted to ask you if it's not

" trichter " instead of " richter " , which is " ecarteur à bec " in French. I am

looking for the English translation right now. It's a special retractor used for

orthopedic surgery.

If you need another on line German/English dictionary, here is the address:

http://www.dict.cc/deutsch-englisch/Stanze.html.

I hope it’ll help you out!

karina clement a écrit :

" T. Creutz " a écrit : From your description,

the " Spreizrichter " has got to be a

retractor, but the usual term for that is " Spreizer, "

sometimes " Spreizinstrument, " the same words used for a spreader.

Your author may have a particular retractor in mind, but there are

literally thousands of different kinds, and I can't find this

particular German term used anywhere. The underlying idea is to

spread and straighten, or set in place; but all retractors do that.

" Stanze " is indeed a punch. There are hundreds of different punches

used in surgery.

Creutz

Weymouth, MA, USA

>

>

>

> In an op report:

>

> 1. Spreiztrichter (no further details, except that it is

introduced after

> the muscles have been separated longitudinally, presumably to

allow access to

> the lumbar spine) - can I just use 'spreader', or is that too

much like

> agricultural machinery for spreading fertiliser on a cabbage

field?

>

> 2. Flavumresektion mittels *** Stanze *** - a punch???

>

> 3. *** Einfahren *** des OP-Mikroskops - can't think of a neat

term other

> than 'introducing', and I have already overused it.

>

> 4. The sequester is *** mehrfach *** fragmented - again, just

looking for an

> elegant way of putting it. I need more coffee, I think, as I am

falling

> asleep over this one.

>

> 5. Einlegen einer subfascialen Minivacdrainage, *** Ausleitung

*** nach

> lateral - ???

>

> 6. LWS-Beweglichkeit *** endgradig *** eingeschraenkt - ???

>

> Many thanks for any and all help,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

So it is! Look at this: http://kaempf.com/0105144.htm Appears to be used

in microdissection. Now someone here must know what to call it ...

Creutz

Re: GER>ENG, lumbar surgery terms

Thanks, .

Actually, it's a ... trichter, not ... richter :-)

Cheers,

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Gisela.

Your suggestion is very good, and I'll use it.

OTOH, 'On the final grade' is anything but ... and IMO is a question of

familiarity (or lack of it) with what sounds right in English <shrug>.

In a message dated 25/05/2006 19:57:15 GMT Daylight Time, gfgreenlee@...

writes:

The correct term should be " restricted end-range of motion "

Really not a native versus non-native speaker issue in my opinion, it's

strictly familiarity (or lack thereof " with medical terminology.

My 2 cents worth.

Gisela Greenlee

[Guest guest]

Hi

Here is an address for the translation of " endgradig " .

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/620387

Hope you can get some sleep today. I also worked all night long ( I hope

you'll be able to understand my English).

Good night!

karina clement a écrit :

I just saw your answer!

What's about " funnel retractor " ?

karina clement a écrit :

OOPSS. I sent my answer too soon. Actually I wanted to ask you if it's not

" trichter " instead of " richter " , which is " ecarteur à bec " in French. I am

looking for the English translation right now. It's a special retractor used for

orthopedic surgery.

If you need another on line German/English dictionary, here is the address:

http://www.dict.cc/deutsch-englisch/Stanze.html.

I hope it’ll help you out!

karina clement a écrit :

" T. Creutz " a écrit : From your description,

the " Spreizrichter " has got to be a

retractor, but the usual term for that is " Spreizer, "

sometimes " Spreizinstrument, " the same words used for a spreader.

Your author may have a particular retractor in mind, but there are

literally thousands of different kinds, and I can't find this

particular German term used anywhere. The underlying idea is to

spread and straighten, or set in place; but all retractors do that.

" Stanze " is indeed a punch. There are hundreds of different punches

used in surgery.

Creutz

Weymouth, MA, USA

>

>

>

> In an op report:

>

> 1. Spreiztrichter (no further details, except that it is

introduced after

> the muscles have been separated longitudinally, presumably to

allow access to

> the lumbar spine) - can I just use 'spreader', or is that too

much like

> agricultural machinery for spreading fertiliser on a cabbage

field?

>

> 2. Flavumresektion mittels *** Stanze *** - a punch???

>

> 3. *** Einfahren *** des OP-Mikroskops - can't think of a neat

term other

> than 'introducing', and I have already overused it.

>

> 4. The sequester is *** mehrfach *** fragmented - again, just

looking for an

> elegant way of putting it. I need more coffee, I think, as I am

falling

> asleep over this one.

>

> 5. Einlegen einer subfascialen Minivacdrainage, *** Ausleitung

*** nach

> lateral - ???

>

> 6. LWS-Beweglichkeit *** endgradig *** eingeschraenkt - ???

>

> Many thanks for any and all help,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

> On the final grade? Doesn't sound English to me at all, and not

surprising,

> really, given that the answerer is a native German speaker. That's

one reason

> I gave up on Proz in disgust: members keep offering absurd answers

in a

> language they barely speak.

Indeed ;-) And being a native speaker is no guarantee against absurd

answers.

6. LWS-Beweglichkeit *** endgradig *** eingeschraenkt -

I would say " restricted/limited range of motion " , in the belief that

most people would understand that this meant the extremes of the range

could not be attained.

Cheers :-)

Sue