Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 is, it could quite possibly be yeast or bacteria overgrowth, or both! Stinky poos in our house usually mean bacteria. Are you having alternating constipation and diarorhea or mainly loose movements, sorry to ask but these things can give important clues to what may be going on. Also, what does your diet mainly consist of? Are you still eating sugar? I don't think any of those suppliments would cause the problems you are describing. You could perhaps try taking them out, one at a time to see if that helps, you may find a culprit. Maybe the chelation is causing yeast overgrowth, i've heard this mentioned before as a common side-effect, but i am not an expert on this, perhaps others will chime in, Mandi??? hth, Nikki In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " atrekkie22 " wrote: > > Hello All > > i was told a few days ago that i have IBS as well and was wondering if > anyone had any ideas of what could be aggravating it? > > i am currently gluten free, casein free, aspartame free, MSG free, > benzoate free and almost organic. i recently added gammon and beef > steak back into my diet as i was finding it too difficult to manage. > > Are there any supplements that are known to aggravate IBS? i am > currently doing a chelation cycle in the hope that my depression will > ease. > > i am currently limiting myself to the following supplements; > > Holland and Barrett (H & chewable acidophilus blueberry flavour (dairy > free) taken when i remember so irregular intervals. > H & B b6 100mg (helped the mag to work) > H & B b12 1 tablet per day, 100% rda (increased my articulation by about > 20%) > Tesco omega 3 pure fish oil 1 tablet per day > H & B calcium (1000mg) magnesium (500mg) > milk thistle 350mg > 7up 2 glasses per day (for the malic acid content) > 100mg 5htp (have tried H & B and " vitamin research products " . > > Occasionally i take > Alka setzer 1 taken no more than 3 times a week for when the bloating > gets too much. (if anyone knows a reliable uk source of alka setlzer > gold please let me know) > tonic water (when i think ive had gluten or milk by mistake). > > i am about to start taking GABA (thanks to a friend of mine here for > sending me some free of charge) and evening primrose oil. Could either > of these aggravate IBS? > > i think the 5htp could be causing the colicky wind at night. It keeps > me up but im unsure what to eat with the 5htp to ease the problem. > Could tonic water ease the gassy pains? im sure they are gass related > as breaking wind eases the problem temporarily. > > i suspected ive had IBS for a while but didnt go to the doctor until > the pain was too much. > > AFAIK i havent been eating anything new (apart from safe homemade > birthday cake) so i dont think im having gluten or milk by mistake. i > find that spanish food doesnt upset my stomach and eases the pain > sometimes. > > i dont have a set routine for taking the supplements so not sure > whether to space them out rather than having them all in one go > (except the DMSA and 5htp of course). > > Also my motions have begun to stink more than before (hardly smelt at > all). > > Any ideas? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2008 Report Share Posted October 4, 2008 > > is, > > it could quite possibly be yeast or bacteria overgrowth, or both! > Stinky poos in our house usually mean bacteria. Ok i will increase the probiotic supplements to one in the morning and one at night. > > Are you having alternating constipation and diarorhea or mainly > loose movements, sorry to ask but these things can give important > clues to what may be going on. im having darker stools (sample being sent to the doctors on Monday). They vary from loose to very stiff. In fact it's bordering on constipation. > > Also, what does your diet mainly consist of? Are you still eating > sugar? i have been told to keep a food diary for when i see the dietician in November. At the moment my diet is a mess. Today ive had hummus, steak, bananas, 7up, supplements and potato cakes. i have some frozen broccoli that i am going to try and cook to get some green veggies in me. Brain fog is really bad at the moment due to lack of sleep. Gas pains could be causing the lack of sleep. A vegan pasta meal at the beginning of the week didnt provoke my system at all. Hard to tell if some safe chocolate is affecting me or not. Also eaten some safe birthday cake. im not craving anything sugary AFAIK. > > I don't think any of those suppliments would cause the problems you > are describing. You could perhaps try taking them out, one at a > time to see if that helps, you may find a culprit. i found garlic made me angry so i took it out. Also H & B supplements that contain sulphites and nitrates have affected me behaviourally in the past. > > Maybe the chelation is causing yeast overgrowth, i've heard this > mentioned before as a common side-effect, but i am not an expert on > this, perhaps others will chime in, Mandi??? i am taking DMSA which has less chance of causing yeast overgrowth AFAIK. > > hth, Nikki is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 Hello is I had a blood test for allergies and found I was allergic to some things I loved (peanuts!) wheat, shelfish, cucumber, but also beef. It may be worth asking for an allergy test so that you can eliminate anything else hurting your tummy. Lara x > > Hello All > > i was told a few days ago that i have IBS as well and was wondering if > anyone had any ideas of what could be aggravating it? > > i am currently gluten free, casein free, aspartame free, MSG free, > benzoate free and almost organic. i recently added gammon and beef > steak back into my diet as i was finding it too difficult to manage. > > Are there any supplements that are known to aggravate IBS? i am > currently doing a chelation cycle in the hope that my depression will > ease. > > i am currently limiting myself to the following supplements; > > Holland and Barrett (H & chewable acidophilus blueberry flavour(dairy > free) taken when i remember so irregular intervals. > H & B b6 100mg (helped the mag to work) > H & B b12 1 tablet per day, 100% rda (increased my articulation by about > 20%) > Tesco omega 3 pure fish oil 1 tablet per day > H & B calcium (1000mg) magnesium (500mg) > milk thistle 350mg > 7up 2 glasses per day (for the malic acid content) > 100mg 5htp (have tried H & B and " vitamin research products " . > > Occasionally i take > Alka setzer 1 taken no more than 3 times a week for when the bloating > gets too much. (if anyone knows a reliable uk source of alka setlzer > gold please let me know) > tonic water (when i think ive had gluten or milk by mistake). > > i am about to start taking GABA (thanks to a friend of mine here for > sending me some free of charge) and evening primrose oil. Could either > of these aggravate IBS? > > i think the 5htp could be causing the colicky wind at night. It keeps > me up but im unsure what to eat with the 5htp to ease the problem. > Could tonic water ease the gassy pains? im sure they are gass related > as breaking wind eases the problem temporarily. > > i suspected ive had IBS for a while but didnt go to the doctor until > the pain was too much. > > AFAIK i havent been eating anything new (apart from safe homemade > birthday cake) so i dont think im having gluten or milk by mistake. i > find that spanish food doesnt upset my stomach and eases the pain > sometimes. > > i dont have a set routine for taking the supplements so not sure > whether to space them out rather than having them all in one go > (except the DMSA and 5htp of course). > > Also my motions have begun to stink more than before (hardly smelt at > all). > > Any ideas? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2008 Report Share Posted October 5, 2008 >Hi is If you have'nt done already it maybe worth looking at the Feingold diet. Kenny > Hello All > > i was told a few days ago that i have IBS as well and was wondering if > anyone had any ideas of what could be aggravating it? > > i am currently gluten free, casein free, aspartame free, MSG free, > benzoate free and almost organic. i recently added gammon and beef > steak back into my diet as i was finding it too difficult to manage. > > Are there any supplements that are known to aggravate IBS? i am > currently doing a chelation cycle in the hope that my depression will > ease. > > i am currently limiting myself to the following supplements; > > Holland and Barrett (H & chewable acidophilus blueberry flavour (dairy > free) taken when i remember so irregular intervals. > H & B b6 100mg (helped the mag to work) > H & B b12 1 tablet per day, 100% rda (increased my articulation by about > 20%) > Tesco omega 3 pure fish oil 1 tablet per day > H & B calcium (1000mg) magnesium (500mg) > milk thistle 350mg > 7up 2 glasses per day (for the malic acid content) > 100mg 5htp (have tried H & B and " vitamin research products " . > > Occasionally i take > Alka setzer 1 taken no more than 3 times a week for when the bloating > gets too much. (if anyone knows a reliable uk source of alka setlzer > gold please let me know) > tonic water (when i think ive had gluten or milk by mistake). > > i am about to start taking GABA (thanks to a friend of mine here for > sending me some free of charge) and evening primrose oil. Could either > of these aggravate IBS? > > i think the 5htp could be causing the colicky wind at night. It keeps > me up but im unsure what to eat with the 5htp to ease the problem. > Could tonic water ease the gassy pains? im sure they are gass related > as breaking wind eases the problem temporarily. > > i suspected ive had IBS for a while but didnt go to the doctor until > the pain was too much. > > AFAIK i havent been eating anything new (apart from safe homemade > birthday cake) so i dont think im having gluten or milk by mistake. i > find that spanish food doesnt upset my stomach and eases the pain > sometimes. > > i dont have a set routine for taking the supplements so not sure > whether to space them out rather than having them all in one go > (except the DMSA and 5htp of course). > > Also my motions have begun to stink more than before (hardly smelt at > all). > > Any ideas? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 is, from what you are saying i suspect it is more likely yeast overgrowth with the bloating and borderline constipation. you could up the probiotics more and cut out the sugar, there would be alot of sugar in 7up if you are drinking the normal stuff not sugar-free. Another thought is that you reacted badly to garlic which is a high sulphur food i believe, so this may also be a reaction to the DMSA which is a suphur containing compound. Have you used DMSA before and been ok with it or are you new to using it? Sorry, i don't know what AFAIK means, its a new one to me could you or someone else translate for me please, thanks!!! hth, Nikki x In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , " atrekkie22 " wrote: > > > > > > is, > > > > it could quite possibly be yeast or bacteria overgrowth, or both! > > Stinky poos in our house usually mean bacteria. > > Ok i will increase the probiotic supplements to one in the morning and > one at night. > > > > Are you having alternating constipation and diarorhea or mainly > > loose movements, sorry to ask but these things can give important > > clues to what may be going on. > > im having darker stools (sample being sent to the doctors on Monday). > They vary from loose to very stiff. In fact it's bordering on > constipation. > > > > Also, what does your diet mainly consist of? Are you still eating > > sugar? > > i have been told to keep a food diary for when i see the dietician in > November. At the moment my diet is a mess. Today ive had hummus, > steak, bananas, 7up, supplements and potato cakes. i have some frozen > broccoli that i am going to try and cook to get some green veggies in > me. Brain fog is really bad at the moment due to lack of sleep. Gas > pains could be causing the lack of sleep. > > A vegan pasta meal at the beginning of the week didnt provoke my > system at all. Hard to tell if some safe chocolate is affecting me or > not. Also eaten some safe birthday cake. im not craving anything > sugary AFAIK. > > > > I don't think any of those suppliments would cause the problems you > > are describing. You could perhaps try taking them out, one at a > > time to see if that helps, you may find a culprit. > > i found garlic made me angry so i took it out. Also H & B supplements > that contain sulphites and nitrates have affected me behaviourally in > the past. > > > > Maybe the chelation is causing yeast overgrowth, i've heard this > > mentioned before as a common side-effect, but i am not an expert on > > this, perhaps others will chime in, Mandi??? > > i am taking DMSA which has less chance of causing yeast overgrowth AFAIK. > > > > hth, Nikki > > is > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2008 Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 -Hi is, I've been told that I might have IBS recently.My GP prescribed for me Peppermint Oil.It was like a miracle..all short sharp pain have gone in a few days.My only worry is that if it masks some other health problems... nevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 > > -Hi is, hello > > I've been told that I might have IBS recently.My GP prescribed for me > Peppermint Oil.It was like a miracle..all short sharp pain have gone > in a few days. My only worry is that if it masks some other health > problems... Thanks for your help, i will try and get some peppermint tea in. > nevin > is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 > > > > is, > > from what you are saying i suspect it is more likely yeast > overgrowth with the bloating and borderline constipation. Oh dear, ive a MCS relative of mine fighting yeast for over 13 years now. > you could up the probiotics more and cut out the sugar, there would > be alot of sugar in 7up if you are drinking the normal stuff not > sugar-free. Sugar free can contain sweetners. i was drinking the 7up for the malic acid to aid with aluminum removal. i was supposed to be an aid to my AC protocol chelation therapy. > > Another thought is that you reacted badly to garlic which is a high > sulphur food i believe, so this may also be a reaction to the DMSA > which is a suphur containing compound. Have you used DMSA before > and been ok with it or are you new to using it? DMSA has been fine with me so far. i can have garlic in my cooking but it causes wind when undercooked. i could investigate the sulphur connection but im unsure after the epsom salt suppliers in the uk being poor? > > Sorry, i don't know what AFAIK means, its a new one to me could you > or someone else translate for me please, thanks!!! AFAIK = as far as i know. > > hth, Yes thanks your information has given me much thought. > > Nikki x > is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2008 Report Share Posted October 7, 2008 > > Hello is > > I had a blood test for allergies and found I was allergic to some > things I loved (peanuts!) wheat, shelfish, cucumber, but also beef. > It may be worth asking for an allergy test so that you can eliminate > anything else hurting your tummy. Thanks for the suggestion i will attempt to have this done when i see the dietitian. i am currently attempting to get some LDN treatment prescribed as i feel i could be an ideal candidate. > > Lara x is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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