Guest guest Posted July 13, 2005 Report Share Posted July 13, 2005 Barb Peck wrote in part: " In Malaria 100% of the time you have periodic fevers - even in the case of uncomplicated malaria. " I was able to do a simple Pub Med search for " afebrile malaria. " I could only get through the first 5 of 56 hits, but found two that make me think your statement is a bit off the mark. I added paragraph breaks for readability, and put the references to afebrile cases in caps. ************************************************************** J Am Mosq Control Assoc. 2001 Dec;17(4):216-20. Epidemiologic investigations of a malaria outbreak in northern Delhi area. Ansari MA, Sharma YD, Roy A, Biswas S, Sharma PK. Malaria Research Centre, Vikas Marg, Delhi, India. Epidemiologic investigations revealed a 56.7 and 13.32% slide positivity rate in FEBRILE AND AFEBRILE malaria cases, respectively. In both cases, Plasmodium falciparum was predominant. Anopheles culicifacies resistant to dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane and benzene hexachloride (hexachlorocyclohexane) was found breeding profusely in pools and ponds created by excavation of earth around brick kiln in the region. Furthermore, children were not found to be producing significant levels of antibodies and a large percentage of patients harbored chloroquine-resistant parasites. Also, more than 1 P. falciparum strain was present in the population. We detected 2 strains, VI and VII, of which type VI was predominant. ************************************************************ It's not just in India, either. Here's a case from Italy, also from 2001: ************************************************************** Ann Ital Med Int. 2001 Oct-Dec;16(4):252-5. [unusual case of malaria in Italy] [Article in Italian] Bobbio F, Scolari P. Divisione di Medicina Generale, Ospedale di Borgomanero, NO. There is a significant increase in cases of malaria in Italy. The incidence among Italian citizens has remained quite stable since 1990, while the number of cases among foreigners residing in Italy has continued to increase. The clinical manifestations of plasmodium infection can be less evident in these people: they often have only mild complaints for weeks or months. The case of a Senegalese woman with Plasmodium malariae infection is presented. She had been in Italy for 13 months and was 4-month pregnant. Her only symptoms were asthenia and microcytic anemia; SHE WAS AFEBRILE. Her anemia was initially believed to be due to iron deficiency: she was treated with iron and folic acid. The anemia worsened, and resolved only after antimalarial therapy with chloroquine. Publication Types: Case Reports PMID: 11799633 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ************************************************************* Seems like it isn't so cut and dry, eh? > > > > > I've talked to someone in England who knows four different > > lymies > > > > who > > > > > kept relapsing after going off antibiotics, who got well on > > > vermox. > > > > > And not even that much of vermox. 3 are completely well. The > > 4th > > > > has > > > > > slight relapse symptoms but not too bad. > > > > > > > > > > Anybody have thoughts about this? Burgdorfer did find > nematodes > > > in > > > > > the mid 80's in the tickguts and other researchers are > finding > > > them > > > > > more often now. Whether they are pathogenic, or perhaps, > > > symbiotic > > > > > with borrelia as some think (could they harbor borrelia in > some > > > > way, > > > > > be the niche?), who knows.... > > > > > > > > > > These drugs probably don't give fungal side effects like > > > > antibiotics. > > > > > > > > > > Barb...where did you test for babesia? My quest is negative, > > and > > > I > > > > > also never had spiking fevers, YET I know that something else > > is > > > > > going on besides lyme or I would not have gotten so ill. > > Babesia > > > > > being epidemic in CT where I was bit is the likely candidate > so > > > I'm > > > > > thinking of paying for Igenex Fish...tho I understand serial > > pcr > > > > and > > > > > a bunch of them is the best way but I don't want to bankrupt > > > myself > > > > > with tests. > > > > > > > > > > TIA from anybody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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