has resurfaced with a plea for media attention!

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Well I am affraind that I c will not allow you to benefit from

our emails. so here they are uncut and I will post the entire file

in the files section. Please search this group for the last

responses to attempt to " Out me as a fraud "

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Hello:

My name is I am 6,3 and currently about 255 lbs down from a

high ofabout 288.

I was once a 185lb hard body but as I got older I of course got out

of shape. I am now trying to get back into shape and at first Steves

journey touched me. But after reviewing some of what he has written

I am a little upset. According to him after just 6 training days he

was walking 4 miles with a 45lb plate in his pack. For a 400lb man I

find this nearly impossible to believe. If in fact that is true I

would think Steve after walking for months would easily be up to 15

to 20 miles a day or much more. But it would seem his average is

just a few miles a day and getting worse not better! What exactly is

going on here this has turned into a joke and seems to be about

publictiy and money now, What the HELL is Steve doing eating biscuts

and gravey and dont give me any of this crap about this being a

personal journey and he will do it his way, He clearly states in his

introduction that his goal

is to lose weight and keep it off by changing his lifestyle and his

eating habits. Well my friend if you have gotten to the point where

you are going to walk across the country because you are so

desperate to change your health habits and lose weight I for one

dont want to hear any BULLSHIT excuses about eating BISCUTS and

GRAVEY or any other bad crap for you. In the last 5 weeks I have

been on a low carb diet and done 3 two day water fasts and lost 21

one pounds. I only wish I could quit my jos and walk across the

country to lose weight. Pull your head out pal eat right and do what

you started out to do you should be down at least 100 lbs by now but

you keep F* & %$#* around and are not really learning anything. As the

saying goes shit or get off the pot as in quit and say I give up I

am a fraud all talk and no go. Or finish this thing in the next 3

months and quit whinning and making excuses. Even a one legged

person can walk acroos the US in a year and a half which is about

your pace. You should be getting stronger not weaker. At first I

respected you now I am getting pissed perhaps its time for the media

to portray you for who you really are. For now I will hold off I

hope this hits home for you.

Sincerely,

Greene

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there are three things that come to mind when I read you

email. 1. You are really self centered to think that you

suppositions are both correct and universal. 2. You are really

lonely and hostile. 3. You are not very smart. These things not

withstanding I have decided to personally respond to your email

because you have it all wrong.

Here is how I see it. (For - My response will be the bold

lettering)

Hello:

My name is I am 6,3 and currently about 255 lbs down from a

high ofabout 288. 33 lbs. I have lost close to 80 lbs.

I was once a 185lb hard body but as I got older I of course got out

of shape. I am now trying to get back into shape and at first Steves

journey touched me. But after reviewing some of what he has written

I am a little upset. ( , rush right out today and try and make

some friends. I don't want my website to be so upsetting for you. I

just isn't healthy.) According to him after just 6 training days he

was walking 4 miles with a 45lb plate in his pack. For a 400lb man I

find this nearly impossible to believe. (First, you are only

limited by what you beleive to be impossible. Secondly, you don't

have a clue what I am capable of...But I think I know from this

statement what you are capable of.) If in fact that is true I would

think Steve after walking for months would easily be up to 15 to 20

miles a day or much more. ( M average has been 14. Your assumption

is incorrect, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.) But it

would seem his average is just a few miles a day and getting worse

not better! What exactly is going on here this has turned into a

joke ( That the great people that have been cheering me on sometime

feel compelled to stop and help smart guys like you get a clue. I am

assuming here that your lunicy is the joke to which you referred.

Correct me if I am wrong please because I do find your wisdom

helpfull.) and seems to be about publictiy and money now, What the

HELL is Steve doing eating biscuts and gravey and dont give me any

of this crap about this being a personal journey and he will do it

his way, He clearly states in his introduction that his goal

is to lose weight and keep it off by changing his lifestyle and his

eating habits. (Don't beleive everything that you read, understand

that everyone has ups and downs and sometimes the only resourse

available in the middle of nowhere is a greasy spoon. Oh I am sorry

am I typing too fast for you? Let me know if I need to slow down. I

am here to serve you.) Well my friend if you have gotten to the

point where you are going to walk across the country because you are

so desperate to change your health habits and lose weight I for one

dont want to hear any BULLSHIT excuses about eating BISCUTS and

GRAVEY or any other bad crap for you. (Uh ok. Rome wasn't built in a

day. Dude, you really were tightening up in this section. Do you

have any hobbies? I would strongly suggest that you get one if

not...Let me clarify that I mean besides critizing me.) In the last

5 weeks I have been on a low carb diet and done 3 two day water

fasts and lost 21 one pounds. I only wish I could quit my jos and

walk across the country to lose weight. Pull your head out pal eat

right and do what you started out to do you should be down at least

100 lbs by now but you keep F* & %$#* around and are not really

learning anything. (Man you really freaked here didn't you...You are

not sitting at your keyboard with your pants down I hope.) As the

saying goes shit or get off the pot as in quit and say I give up I

am a fraud all talk and no go. ( I don't have any pot but clearly

you might need some and my BM's are my own business...Oddly enough I

now have a new name for them now. Can you guess what that name is

) Or finish this thing in the next 3 months and quit whinning

and making excuses. Even a one legged person can walk acroos the US

in a year and a half which is about your pace. You should be getting

stronger not weaker. At first I respected you now I am getting

pissed perhaps its time for the media to portray you for who you

really are. For now I will hold off I hope this hits home for you. (

You don't own any weapons do you !?!. Your insight and wisdom

are wonderful. I can hardly contain myself while waiting for your

talk show to air. I am glad that your mother decided to keep you

because her/your contribution to this world will be profound. {

Hopefully not from a tower or schoolbook depository though } I am

sure that she is proud I know I would be.

I will try to learn from this email and stirve to make myself a

better person, like you. Thanks for the good word.)

Sincerely,

Greene

Seriously Scooter - You really are taking all of this too

seriously. But if you insist on being a nimrod just be informed

that any email you send here will be publicly ridiculed beacuse I

personally think that people like you are what is wrong in society

and a spotlight should be on you at a times.... for later

identification on America's Most Wanted.

This email will be on the yahoo group and all others from you may be

as well. You know, legal stuff.

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Hello again Steve:

Wow you get pissed easy. Number one I am not trying to be rude. I

keep going back to your home page and reading what amounts to be

your Mission Statement. You my friend wrote those words not me! And

now that your " personal journey " has turned into a circus and

someone like me follows your progress and then confronts you on some

very real issues you get pissed. First off your 5 to 6 months on the

road is turning into at least a year and a half.

I can only assume that you have gotten so much attention you are

milking it for all it is worth. I personally would lay money you

dont finish this thing. And dont get me wrong I freely say that I

could not do it. But if this is as you say your journey to save your

life it really seems to have gotten off track. I got some insight

into your personality in your Email nice excuse about the greasy

spoon but I am sure even greasy spoons in new mexico have

cereal,oatmeal,fruits and veggies. But have your biscuts and gravy

im just a big jerk for pointing out your inconsistent statements. Oh

yea and if I do the math and divide total miles walked by number of

days it comes out to like less than 5 miles a day. Oh but thats

right you dont walk every day you sometimes rest 3 or 4 days. Seems

like this has turned into an extended camping trip. Like I said I at

first respected you for this but you have gotten so caught up in the

hype you love it. Must be nice to get all the free gear and all the

support.

And as for weight loss I read somewhere on your web sight about a

month ago that you had lost about 45lbs. I showed it to my

girlfriend and said this guy has been on the road walking for about

4 months and has only lost 45lbs we both agreed something was wrong

there. But now you say 88lbs well how come you have not posted this

on your web page thats the kind of info we all want to know. You

know Steve where you walk what you eat and how long it takes you to

do it your business YOU ARE THE ONE WHO HAS MADE IT EVERYONE ELESES

BUSINESS! And I am an asshole for confronting you on some of your

statements.

Well my friend you were famous for a while but I know I speak for

many people when I say your personal journey has gotten very boring

and the attention will continue to die out. In my lsat email that

you attacked me so hatefully my intention was to say GET ON WITH IT

YOUR NOT GOING TO HAVE ALL THESE PEOPLE TO KICK YOU IN THE BUTT THE

REST OF YOUR LIFE. I mean really come on already! Steve fell down

today Steve has a blister today, Steve had a cold today,Steve got a

sunburn today, Steve was depressed today.

I myself and about 250 million americans deal with that everyday and

you know what there are millions of overweight people out there some

much bigger than you but you dont see them using a web site like

you. My whole point is if this PERSONAL JOURNEY is everything you

said you wanted it to be why dont you get away from the hype kunckle

down and finish this thing. I know your again going to say what an

asshole but the way you have turned this thing around you should

just change your website to FAT MAN CAMPING. Your comments to me are

hurtful and hateful I am just angry to see another person playing

for the media. But at the rate your going this thing will be

yesterdays news soon enough no one is goona write a book or make a

movie about some guy who takes 2 years to walk across the country.

The more time you take the more you complain and the more you rely

on others to bail you out the less inspiring this becomes.

Sincerely

Greene

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Great message. Now you can exercise your freedoms as an American and

choose to move on. I really don't need to know that you are

supporting me to e able to do this walk. I am truly doing it for my

own betterment and all else is irelevant. I did not make this thing

popular, people at large did because they got something from it.

Even if I were to fail to make it to NY I have touched and enormous

amout of people and that is something that is rare and priceless.

When I first started this journey it was all about the mechanics of

weightloss and the philosophical stuff was just nonsense to me. I

quickely learned though that what I needed was the journey itself.

I have been many places in my lifetime in this country and abroad

but I have learned more about the world and my part during this

trip. I have won my friend, even if I don't lose another pound

because of this " Joke " . Because I have made many new friends and

shared experiences with people that It would take some people a

lifetime to do.

As for the mileage the actual mileage is just over 920 ( Mapquest

checks the shortest driving route. I follow a walking route that

does not follow the Mapquest rout exactly.) I pulled ligaments in

my knee and walked three miles a day for 3.5 weeks, I have had

stomach flu, and several other minor things that slowed me down a

bit. I was walking slower in the beginning before the weightloss and

increased strength and then factor in time not walked for whatever

reasons. I have actually walked for roughly 99 days. That would put

the average at 9.3 miles per day. So I am happy with that.

The attention, I spend a good part of my day dodging reporters

because the attention is overwhelming and sometimes out of control.

But consider that these news outlets don't sell their medium because

I am walking. They sell it because you are buying it.

As far as what I am eating. I firmly beleive that to be successful

at getting healthier I will have to modify my behavior to something

that I can sustain for the reast of my life. I absolutely love

biscuits and gravy, carne asada burrito's, pepperoni pizza and the

like. I am not going to try and fool myself into beleiving that I

will be able to avoid these things. Eating these things didn't make

me overweight, overeating them did. What you are not seeing is that

I don't eat cakes and candy, ice cream, soda and all of that super

sugary stuff. And the media doesn't print that. So what I am

saying to you is that what your opinion about my life is does not

mean squat to me. But once in a while I just feels compelled to get

back to people like you, exactly what you put out there for me. I

invite you to come walk with me for 100 miles, I will even pay for

it and I guarentee that after your time out here you will be a

changed man. But I don't think that you are strong enough. I don't

think that you would last 3 days. I think that there are two ways to

feel good about yourself. One is to do something great. The other is

to make everyone around you look stupid and you are the best one by

default. Where do think you are in that. I am not agry with you,

actually quite the opposite. I think that you need something in your

life and you are affraid to go and get it. So I feel sad for you.

As for all of this free gear that you are refferring to... I

freakin' wish. I have paid for all of my gear, very expensive gear.

It is true that the company that I purchased it from offerred to

reimburse me for it if I complete the trip but that doesn't help me

now. There are a lot of camping equipment companies that are trying

to get me to endorse things but I haven't. So think what you like,

it makes no difference. If you have any nuts you will accept my

offer and get to see the real story first hand but if you don'tI

honestly won't loose any sleep over knowing that you disapprove.

FInally about my celebrity dying down. Inevitable and I am looking

foward to getting back to my real life soon. But as long as people

are getting someting out of this I will keep it out there for them.

Steve

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Hello Again Steve:

Much nicer tone this time thanks. Well thats quite the offer walk

with you for a 100 miles

are you actually offering to pay for me to fly from Oregon? If so 2

questions first how could you afford to pay anything your wife is

working 3 jobs. And second if I do come and walk with you would you

be willing to do it on my terms meaning 100 miles in 4 to 5 days max.

I have a girlfriend 10 years together and 14 year old daughter I

support, 4 dogs 6 cats and 2 mortgages. I am a commisioned employee

so I cannot afford to take 2 weeks to walk 100 miles. If you are

willing to pay even half my expenses and walk the 100 miles in 4 to

5 days with me I think I might just take you up on your offer. Keep

in mind I am 6'3 and about 250 lbs so I am no small guy but I think

with about 1 week of prep I could go the 100.

Let me know if your up for it. Oh and by the way I went into your

guest book and read a few posts (actually I stopped at about 200)

and found that hundreds if not thousands( of the 200 or so posts I

read about 40% seem to believe this has turned into a circus and has

become about money and fame and several seem upset about what you

are doing to you wife.) of people seem to share at least some of my

thoughts. Just to let you know there are some real wack jobs in

there that say stupid crap I do not agree with and are just plain

evil people. In closing Steve and I mean this with all my heart I

hope you make it. When I first heard about your journey I told my

girlfriend and she was not totally impressed (shes young and thin)

but my exact words were Colleen you have no idea what this guy is

trying to do if you could even imagine weighing 400 lbs and trying

to walk a mile let alone across the U.S. you would be impresed.

Don't think I do not realize the pain you must be in the strain to

you joints and ligaments I am impressed I just hate all the media

hype.

Sincerely,

Greene

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,

I was informed by my wife that my response to your email was

unwarranted and embarrassing for her. So, on her behalf I

apologize.

Having said that now please understand something. I am doing this

for me and for my family and they are the ones who set the

standards. As long as they are behind me I will continue this trip.

Now, the trip is of my own doing and I will do it how I think that

it should be done. Sometimes I will go 20-25 miles in a day;

sometimes I will go 4-5. You see I am not just walking to New York,

I and living a lot of lost time, meeting people and experiencing

things that I have spent most of my adult life hiding from.

Exposing my demons to the public and weathering the limited nonsense

is actually therapeutic for me because I am acknowledging that I am

not perfect, I am flawed and weak and sometime angry and bitter.

But, despite the weakness the strengths win out and I am still

here.

I am not doing this for the media or the internet traffic. I am

doing this because for most of my life I was ready to put a bullet

through my head because I just couldn't be happy, no matter what was

happing. In the past 10 years or so I have made great strides

toward enjoying life and I am happy with the changes. Except that

all of the happiness is now diminished by the unhappiness of being

over weight of living in a society that no matter how high you soar,

you are still a lazy fat ass.

At the time that I read you email I really frustrated that there

were a few people offering their unsolicited " wisdom " and I

acknowledge that I probably unfairly, vented on you because I didn't

like the derogatory tone of your email. You said that you didn't

believe that a guy like me could do what I have done. Let me share

something with you, some 'inside information'. The people that

approached us about doing a documentary were sitting in my living

room with my wife and kids and one of them said that I needed a

support vehicle to get through the desert. That it was " impossible

for a guy like me to make it through alone " . My daughter heard this

and went back to her room and quickly wrote out a note to that

person, mind you she is only 8yrs old. But she didn't agree with

this adult and so to defend her Dad, as well as her opinion about

his abilities, she wrote and delivered that note to the man. It read

simply " Nothing is impossible " .

Nothing is impossible! Just writing it here brings a tear to my

eye. She believes in her Dad and she will not hear that there is

any possibility that what I told her that I would do, cannot be

done. I taught her to believe that nothing is impossible.

Someone said that maybe what I needed was some therapy; others have

accused me of abandoning my family, still other think that this is a

publicity stunt. Well, they are all wrong, that little girl and her

love for me is my therapy, and , Marcus and my wife are the

reason that I am still alive today and the catalyst for change that

both put and keep me out here. If they said today that they wanted

me to come home, I would close the door on all of this and all of

you and go there to be with them. But that is not what they ask of

me. They ask that I be the man that they love and that I be there

for them....for the long run.

Yes there is media attention, I cannot control that, I have several

media outlets really upset with me because I don't cooperate the way

that they think that I should. I have a book deal, this also is

true. But I only have that deal because of the international

interest surrounding my walk, I can't control that either. So what

should I do, go home? Turn down a book deal because some people

think that I am selling out? When exactly did I buy in?

I am doing this for me but it has turned into something for everyone

else and that fact alone has been the greatest motivator outside of

my family. If by doing something for myself I can help another

person then why shouldn't I, wouldn't you? How about helping

thousands or even hundreds of thousands? Wouldn't the selfish thing

be to say no? Well I think that if I fail to share my moment with

the people who find hope and inspiration in it then I really have

learned nothing. What about the guys out there, just like me? Do I

say to them, Hey pal figure it out for yourself, I am too selfish to

open of my life, the good and the bad, to help shed some light on

our common dilemma, maybe to share with someone my fears, their

fears, and let them know that there is a way out. Well for me it is

more important to lend a helping hand then it is to worry about a

public image. I don't need a camera in my face to be kind to

another human being.

So thank you for you interest and I hope that you might understand

me better.