Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 how are you ?? bleu Marie Mayberry wrote: > Go to Co Cure Good Drs list. > Dr. Ryll M.D. > > Hodologica <usenethod@...> wrote: >> Interestin'. I want to find out more but I am not finding anything in >> pubmed or google - any leads? >> >> <msmabrry@y...> wrote: >> > I believe there is a Dr. Ryle in Carmichael, CA who >> > subscribes to the vasculitis theory. I think he was >> > one of the first Docs in US to study CFS. >> > Marie >> > --- Hodologica <usenethod@y...> wrote: >> > > >> > > I feel vasculitis should be another leading suspect. >> > > This could cause >> > > poor perfusion in the brain. And, as Cheney >> > > brainstorms, it could >> > > self-intensify, if poor perfusion of the heart were >> > > itself to >> > > compromise heart function and thence circulation, in >> > > a vicous cycle. >> > > >> > > Microvasculitis impacts perfusion by simply >> > > deforming/narrowing the >> > > capillaries. Endothelial (vessel wall) cells swell >> > > and reproduce >> > > abnormally. This has the potential to completely >> > > stagnate the capillary. >> > > >> > > Vasculitis and perivasculitis are the most >> > > ubiquitous lesions of >> > > syphilis. Vasculitis has also been found often in >> > > lyme in many cases. >> > > (I dont know for sure of any whole tissue histology >> > > of lyme; if there >> > > were any I wonder if vasculitis *might* be found to >> > > in fact feature in >> > > every case. I get a vague sense that histology of >> > > needle biopsy >> > > samples may not be as good as autopsy in some ways, >> > > but I am >> > > uncertain. I do not remember whether all the lyme >> > > histology I know of >> > > is on needle-biopsy material). >> > > >> > > Al, I didnt know Goldstein had shown hypoperfusion >> > > via SPECT - thats >> > > very interesting. Do you know why this finding didnt >> > > silence the >> > > psychologizing school of CFS/ME? Do you know of any >> > > non-needle >> > > histology on CFS/ME or chronic borreliosis? I have >> > > looked a bit but >> > > found little. The only CFS histology I found was >> > > muscle biopsies where >> > > myocytes (muscle cells) were primarily examined. One >> > > would think the >> > > investigators would have noticed any vasculitis if >> > > present but who >> > > knows. Rich, you really know CFS literature so >> > > perhaps you have some >> > > insight? >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hi all, >> > > > > >> > > > > The SPECT Brain Scans that were done in the >> > > early 90's by Jay >> > > > Goldstein & others on CFS patients showed >> > > > > Hypoperfusion (Low Blood Flow). >> > > > > >> > > > > As a result of the Peckerman study, Dr. Cheney >> > > says the result of >> > > > the low cardiac output in CFS is poor >> > > micro-circulation . It would >> > > > appear that this is what caused the >> > > Hypoperfusion in the SPECT >> > > > Scans. Right ? >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Al >> > > >> > > >> >> > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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