Re: Re: Cold/Flu afterglow

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Matt, some with CFS when obviously infected with a cold experience a worsening of existing symptoms rather than classic cold symptoms ...would you relate [or anyone] to that ...One explanation would be that those people are overwhelmed with the infectious load & the benefit of a switched on IS by a guest bug is lost because of that overwhelming chronic infection ..

-----Original Message-----From: infections [mailto:infections ]On Behalf Of phagelodSent: 09 June 2005 16:23infections Subject: [infections] Re: Cold/Flu afterglowThis topic deserves significant attention. If you use the search function at:http://www.chronicfatiguesyndromesupport.com/chat/forums/index.cfm?start=1 & b=FMyou'll find plenty of discussion on colds and how they affect the sick people on that board (You'll have to register to look at the posts).I don't know how familiar you are with this patient population, but it is pretty clear that it represents more than one condition. The susceptibility to, and response to, colds/flus highlights this as well as anything does.Some people (like me) can't remember the last cold or flu we got. Others catch them all the time.Some people are actually grateful when they catch a cold/flu because they feel so much better. Conversely, some people seem uniquely devastated by colds/flus.Presumably some of us have immune systems that are in an antiviral state (Th1-shifted, presumably) whereas others have immune systems that are hard-pressed to trigger such a state (Th2-shifted, presumably). But this is just an inference, open to scrutiny. Do let us know your thoughts on this.Below are some quotes from people who feel better during colds/flus. There's lots more where that came from. I didn't have the patience to look through all the threads (start by searching "colds" if you want to collect more testimony than I have supplied below).http://www.chronicfatiguesyndromesupport.com/chat/forums/message.cfm?id=508515 & B=FMhoosiermama saidWell I do still get sick 02/20/05 03:45 PMBut when I am really sick my pain is way less. I also don't feel as "hyper" or anxious as usual. I get sick alot because I am around people at a nursing home and they are ALWAYS getting sick and giving it to me. I have to say though the pain is WAY less when I am sick, and thats a bit of a relief.HuggyMummy saidAlso on the rare occasion I DO get a full-blown infection I 'feel' great (apart from the attached symptoms of course) - it's as though my immune system finally has got something 'proper' to work on, instead of me! http://www.chronicfatiguesyndromesupport.com/chat/forums/message.cfm?id=460297 & B=FM#460423hoosiermama saidThis is WEIRD I am sick with a BAD cold but NO PAIN! 10/20/04 07:12 PMI don't know why, or how...but I am sick with a bad cold, and PAIN FREE! I can not beleive this! I mean yeah, I feel like crappola, but NO PAIN??? Its been 2 days and my pain has subsided! It feels good.la_star1 saidI had a really bad flu in February and had a fever of 101. I thought it was the weirdest thing but I was completely pain free.foxglove9922 saidFor me a cold is not necessarily a bad thing. I tend to feel more normal with a cold other than the unpleasant side effects of the cold.Ranger saidI have experienced this phenomenon of having a cold and not feeling the fibro so much.myaeggi saidI have the same phenomenon hoosiermama! Everyone thinks I'm crazy when I say that my pain is significantly less when I have a cold. patchwork saidI feel much better when I have a cold! It's as if the immune system has something else to work on. Also I feel FANTASTIC the day before I get really sick!! I have so much energy and feel almost normal!Matt> Hi folks.> > I have heard tell of something that could be refered to as an > afterglow during convalescence from colds and flu. Have any of you > experienced this and also is anyone aware of any journal reference to > this?> > I'd be grateful of any information.> > Many thanks.> > Best regards, .

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I am wondering if you think that the people that feel better with a cold or flu are in TH1 hyperdrive and the flu shifts them to TH2 ?If yoiu can explain this , I would really be grateful,

Thanks

AMY