Re: Intro

January 23, 2005

Our daughter is 10 - we are seeing great results with the quintet and TD-DMPS.

Shari

Re: Intro

Hi All,

Since I answered a post last night just thought I should introduce

myself. I've been lurking for quite a while. I am the mom of an 11 yo

diagnosed with autism at three. We started out on the educational (ABA

mostly) track and made great progress but there are a few lingering

issues I'm trying to figure out solutions for. Thanks for all the good

info!

H.

Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

<http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com/default.aspx>

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April 10, 2006

Don't be a perpetrator,a victim,or a bystander.RDM

Good morning RDM

I hope you have a great Texas day.

January 8, 2007

Hi kelly, welcome to the group.

First I want to say congratulations on looking for help. It's always

hard to ask for help and harder even still to recognize a problem.

Second. I havent heard such bad things about the lap band. I've heard

a lot of bad things about gastic bypass. The company i worked for did

a study on it and OK'd the payment for the service for 1 or 2 years as

a case study and then they put it on the 'denied' services list due to

complications. The lap band they left as " ok under certain

circumstances " . So it has to be measurably 'safer'. Not to say it's

not without risks.

The big question that needs to be answered is, " why cant I lose

weight. " have the doctors helped you research that? I can only

imagine with your fathers weight as it is, it's hereditary or

lifestyle hereditary as I like to call it. Ei: you never learned good

eating habits.

Have you talked to a counselor to see if you have food issues? Do you

need to find a way to keep busy so you wont eat? Do you have physcial

conditions that limit you from excercising? Is there a pool you can

use to help with that?

What ever is in you way, you need a list or just pick one and work on

one thing at a time. Whichever type of person you are. If you'd be

overwhelmed by a list, skip it, if it helps you organize, then use it.

For myself, I had foot problems and a back problem and couldnt find an

excercise that could work for me. I found the elliptical and the

recumbent bike and the pool were the best resources. Finally I found

shoes that work for me and i'm back to walking and light hiking.

So my question to you is, what is your first goal? Getting a little

more excercise, eating a little less, conquering your food issues?

Pick one and work on it. If you've already tried calorie restriction

and it's not working, then you need to review your plan and see what's

not working about it or scrap it.

I'll give you an example of what i was doing. I tried a 1200 calorie

diet and it didnt work. i'd end up starving at work at 6pm and there'd

be nothing good to eat so id end up eating junk. So i redid my

calories to 1600 and did much better. At those calories I dont lose

much weight, but i stop gaining weight and will lose with more excercise.

Anyway, that's just an example to get you thinking of what might work

for you.

laurie

>

> Hi, my name is and I am obese. I am looking into all support

> groups and options that I can find. I am a insulin dependant type 2

> diabetic and I have high cholesterol all at the age of 25. I am a

> mother of 3 and I want to be around for them. In January of 2006 I

> lost my father (at 600 lbs) due to complications of being obese, and

> I then made a vow to get healthier and to lose weight, but everything

> I try seems to fail, no matter how little I eat, or what I eat or how

> much exercise I do, the weight just seems like it won't go away. My

> doctors want me to have the lapband done, but I have heard the horror

> stories and I am scared, so I figured I would try some support groups

> to see if that helps. I have joined OA, which has seemed to help as

> long as I attend my meeting, because I have found that I am a

> compulsive over-eater, I like to eat instead of dealing with my

> emotions. So what I would like to know is how all of you are doing,

> and if anything in particularly has helped you.

> Thank you,

>

November 5, 2008

hi tina welcome to the group,we are like a big family here and we

welcome you with open arms, i am sorry to hear your step dad is

sick,he will be in my prayers as well as you and your family.there

are others here that can answers your questions better than i ,but i

am here if you need a shoulder or an ear:),i wish you the best and i

am glad you found this place its a wonderful place .much love barby---

In livercirrhosissupport , " Tina "

wrote:

>

> Hello All!

>

> I just joined the group and hope to get some answers about

Cirrhosis from

> real people, not by googling it. My step-father was diagnosed with

Alcohol

> Induced Cirrhosis. After retiring I believe he became depressed

and started

> drinking heavily.

>

> For the past 4 months my mother has taken care of him 24/7. He is

so weak

> and sleeps approximately 20 hours out of the day. He has lost so

much weigh

> but has a huge belly and his arms are terribly bruised / spotted.

>

> Could this be that his liver is failing?

>

> Tina

>

November 5, 2008

Hi Tina and welcome to the group. Your step-father definitely needs to be seen

by a doctor. Any diagnosis of cirrhosis means the liver is failing, although to

what degree can only be determined by tests. Excessive sleeping can be a

symptom of encephalopathy, which is a poisoning of the brain by excessive

amounts of ammonia in an individuals system, caused by a failing liver.

Excessive retention of fluid in the abdominal cavity is usually a symptom of

acites and is also a symptom of end stage liver disease. Easy bruising can

signify a low platelet count, which is also a symptom of ESLD. So, please

advise your Mom to get him back to his doctor as soon as possible. It may even

be necessary to take him into the local ER. Encephalopathy if left untreated

can lead to irreparable brain damage. Please know you are all in my prayers.

Please keep us updated on your step-father's condition.

Hugs..........

Diane C. from TN

Intro

Hello All!

I just joined the group and hope to get some answers about Cirrhosis from

real people, not by googling it. My step-father was diagnosed with Alcohol

Induced Cirrhosis. After retiring I believe he became depressed and started

drinking heavily.

For the past 4 months my mother has taken care of him 24/7. He is so weak

and sleeps approximately 20 hours out of the day. He has lost so much weigh

but has a huge belly and his arms are terribly bruised / spotted.

Could this be that his liver is failing?

Tina

November 5, 2008

Hi Tina:

I'm new here as well, so I can't offer much in the way of assistance with

symptoms, etc... But I will tell you... this group has been a lifesaver for me.

My brother (who was rushed to the hospital last Monday and is currently in ICU

on a ventilator) had the same symptoms as your stepdad, plus many more. I'm

still reading and learning... in fact, I didn't even know how to SPELL cirrhosis

until last week. (His PCP missed most of his symptoms prior to last Monday).

Welcome to the group... you'll find a wonderful and warm group of people here

that will offer you plenty of support and information.

Lori

-------------- Original message --------------

Hello All!

I just joined the group and hope to get some answers about Cirrhosis from

real people, not by googling it. My step-father was diagnosed with Alcohol

Induced Cirrhosis. After retiring I believe he became depressed and started

drinking heavily.

For the past 4 months my mother has taken care of him 24/7. He is so weak

and sleeps approximately 20 hours out of the day. He has lost so much weigh

but has a huge belly and his arms are terribly bruised / spotted.

Could this be that his liver is failing?

Tina

November 5, 2008

Hi Tina. Welcome to the group, and welcome to all new members, We have had

several applications for membership today. This group continues to grow, and we

are here to support you. I am Bobby, a 44 year old with alcoholic induced end

stage liver disease. To answer your question, yes, liver failure can cause a

swollen belly, and the bruising you see is most likely from low platelets, a

common curse among liver disease sufferers. The important question is do you see

your father as being able to receive a liver transplant? Does he have other

things wrong with his health, that might rule this out? Because now would be the

time to get him to a transplant hospital for a liver transplant evaluation.

Unfortunately most people do not realize that a liver transplant is the only

treatment at this time for liver failure. I guess that is true for kidneys as

well as hearts too. There is much to be done if this is the case for him. I wish

you good luck, and ask

questions, we are not doctors, but there is a lot of experience here not only

concerning caretaking, but the transplant process itself.

Sincerely, Bobby, moderator.

http://billybobswildride.blogspot.com/

long life, old age, everything good -Apache prayer

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To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 3:18:56 PM

Subject: Intro

Hello All!

I just joined the group and hope to get some answers about Cirrhosis from

real people, not by googling it. My step-father was diagnosed with Alcohol

Induced Cirrhosis. After retiring I believe he became depressed and started

drinking heavily.

For the past 4 months my mother has taken care of him 24/7. He is so weak

and sleeps approximately 20 hours out of the day. He has lost so much weigh

but has a huge belly and his arms are terribly bruised / spotted.

Could this be that his liver is failing?

Tina

November 5, 2008

Welcome Tina and other new members..I can't keep up today....I'm decluttering

under the house and it is a MESS!

I just wanted to check in and say hi! I'm praying for all of you and yours,

lots of time as I declutter, to ask the Lord to bless you all today.

I am Pamela, caregiver to my mom who died of cirrhosis in Feb '08. Today as I

was going through stuff, I found a box of things we used while caring for mom.

Meds, bed pads, shampoo caps, a baby monitor, thermometer etc.. All over

again..the thoughts came flooding back of when I was turning her every couple

hours, feeding her, giving her meds etc.. But no tears today, which is really

strange, but a welcomed relief from all the other days that I do cry. I miss

her something terrible!!

I know caregiving is hardwork, but hang in there! It is a huge blessing to give

the gift of caregiving! And when you think you can't go on, remember the One

who is helping you, He really will carry you during the hard times, don't be

afraid to ask, He is a great listener!!

I hope you all find help here at this wonderful group. I sure have and continue

to be blessed by the sweet fellowship!

Well, back to it! It feels good to work hard, but I am shocked at how much

STUFF has accumulated over the years. And now everything my mom made, wore,

touched etc..I can't seem to part with.

Blessings All..

Love,

Pamela

----- Original Message -----

November 6, 2008

i downloaded the song homesick

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To: livercirrhosissupport

Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 8:59:37 PM

Subject: Re: Intro

Welcome Tina and other new members..I can't keep up today....I'm decluttering

under the house and it is a MESS!

I just wanted to check in and say hi! I'm praying for all of you and yours, lots

of time as I declutter, to ask the Lord to bless you all today.

I am Pamela, caregiver to my mom who died of cirrhosis in Feb '08. Today as I

was going through stuff, I found a box of things we used while caring for mom.

Meds, bed pads, shampoo caps, a baby monitor, thermometer etc.. All over

again..the thoughts came flooding back of when I was turning her every couple

hours, feeding her, giving her meds etc.. But no tears today, which is really

strange, but a welcomed relief from all the other days that I do cry. I miss her

something terrible!!

I know caregiving is hardwork, but hang in there! It is a huge blessing to give

the gift of caregiving! And when you think you can't go on, remember the One who

is helping you, He really will carry you during the hard times, don't be afraid

to ask, He is a great listener!!

I hope you all find help here at this wonderful group. I sure have and continue

to be blessed by the sweet fellowship!

Well, back to it! It feels good to work hard, but I am shocked at how much STUFF

has accumulated over the years. And now everything my mom made, wore, touched

etc..I can't seem to part with.

Blessings All..

Love,

Pamela

----- Original Message -----

November 6, 2008

There is a green shirt I have on the back of my couch, and I call it my crying

shirt. She wore it on the visit to the hepatologist. She wore it again in the

ambulance to the hospice. I drink my coffee from a cup I gave her in 1997. I

gave her my stuffed frog for Christmas in 2004, and somehow had a feeling I

would be getting it back. Ardis named him " Jaques Peppin " and you see him with

me in every picture on my blog in the hospital.

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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ya, well here I was tucking in the last of the stuff into the medical supplies

box and I found the pink basin they give you at the hospital. Inside it was a

single hair from my mom....that was it.....I burst into tears, to touch a part

of her....I miss her so much!

Jesus can't come soon enough to please me...but I know he is being patient so

everyone can have a chance to know Him.....and these feelings are kind of

worldly, earthly feelings, not heavenly feelings. I don't think I love the way

Jesus loves, but He's working on me.

Thanks for your kind words and prayers Diane!

Love you,

Pamela

Re: Intro

<And now everything my mom made, wore, touched etc..I can't seem to part

with.>

Pamela,

Don't rush that. The time will come when it will seem right to go through

your Mom's things and part with some of them. Some you'll never want to part

with. Grief is a process and it shouldn't be rushed. Let it happen in it's own

time. The Lord will give you peace about letting go of her things when the time

is right for you. I'm praying for you cause I've been where you are now.

Hugs.........

Diane

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i have a chest type table i keep memories of my son in ...i was looking

for a book this morn and thought maybe i put it in the chest to keep it away

from my grandson. i opened the chest and had to read the last mothers day card

my son gave to me after he died...he had prob 2 dozen boxes transported to my

home when he died the service people brought them to me from VA..then the

funeral director brought them to my home...they were piled up in my kitchen

every one told me to leave them alone for now ...all i wanted to do was smell

him feel him...i opened one box ...let me open one box so i did of all the boxes

i could of opened it was the one that had the belated mothers day card on

top...he told me how much he loved me all that i taught him and how i helped to

form him as a man...he talked about respect...then wrote me a poem...i will

share if you want me to...later...OH what a gift from my Lord...

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To: Livercirrhosissupport <livercirrhosissupport >

Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2008 4:29:37 AM

Subject: Re: Intro

There is a green shirt I have on the back of my couch, and I call it my crying

shirt. She wore it on the visit to the hepatologist. She wore it again in the

ambulance to the hospice. I drink my coffee from a cup I gave her in 1997. I

gave her my stuffed frog for Christmas in 2004, and somehow had a feeling I

would be getting it back. Ardis named him " Jaques Peppin " and you see him with

me in every picture on my blog in the hospital.

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

Re: Intro

ya, well here I was tucking in the last of the stuff into the medical supplies

box and I found the pink basin they give you at the hospital. Inside it was a

single hair from my mom....that was it.....I burst into tears, to touch a part

of her....I miss her so much!

Jesus can't come soon enough to please me...but I know he is being patient so

everyone can have a chance to know Him.....and these feelings are kind of

worldly, earthly feelings, not heavenly feelings. I don't think I love the way

Jesus loves, but He's working on me.

Thanks for your kind words and prayers Diane!

Love you,

Pamela

Re: Intro

Pamela,

Don't rush that. The time will come when it will seem right to go through your

Mom's things and part with some of them.. Some you'll never want to part with.

Grief is a process and it shouldn't be rushed. Let it happen in it's own time.

The Lord will give you peace about letting go of her things when the time is

right for you. I'm praying for you cause I've been where you are now.

Hugs........ .

Diane

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November 6, 2008

Thanks Bobby.

No, he would not be a candidate for a transplant. He was diagnosed with

Prostate Cancer 4 weeks ago and he has heart issues as well ( one bypass,

one heart attack and stint). My mom asked if the excessive fatigue was from

the cancer and he said no.

Would the cirrhosis cause such weakness and fatique?

Thanks again for all the welcomes and advice!

Tina

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From: livercirrhosissupport

[mailto:livercirrhosissupport ] On Behalf Of Bob Aragon

Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:24 PM

To: livercirrhosissupport

Subject: Re: Intro

Hi Tina. Welcome to the group, and welcome to all new members, We have had

several applications for membership today. This group continues to grow, and

we are here to support you. I am Bobby, a 44 year old with alcoholic induced

end stage liver disease. To answer your question, yes, liver failure can

cause a swollen belly, and the bruising you see is most likely from low

platelets, a common curse among liver disease sufferers. The important

question is do you see your father as being able to receive a liver

transplant? Does he have other things wrong with his health, that might rule

this out? Because now would be the time to get him to a transplant hospital

for a liver transplant evaluation. Unfortunately most people do not realize

that a liver transplant is the only treatment at this time for liver

failure. I guess that is true for kidneys as well as hearts too. There is

much to be done if this is the case for him. I wish you good luck, and ask

questions, we are not doctors, but there is a lot of experience here not

only concerning caretaking, but the transplant process itself.

Sincerely, Bobby, moderator.

http://billybobswil <http://billybobswildride.blogspot.com/>

dride.blogspot.com/

long life, old age, everything good -Apache prayer

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From: Tina <beadin_beagle@ <mailto:beadin_beagle%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com>

To: livercirrhosissuppo <mailto:livercirrhosissupport%40yahoogroups.com>

rt

Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2008 3:18:56 PM

Subject: Intro

Hello All!

I just joined the group and hope to get some answers about Cirrhosis from

real people, not by googling it. My step-father was diagnosed with Alcohol

Induced Cirrhosis. After retiring I believe he became depressed and started

drinking heavily.

For the past 4 months my mother has taken care of him 24/7. He is so weak

and sleeps approximately 20 hours out of the day. He has lost so much weigh

but has a huge belly and his arms are terribly bruised / spotted.

Could this be that his liver is failing?

Tina

November 6, 2008

My mom has passed away 4 years ago. She suffered in a nursing home with

Alzheimers Disease for 6 years. After she passed away,our stepfather would not

let us in the house for 3 years to get any of our mother's things, family

heirlooms etc. I've not spoken to him since----they were married for 25 years.

Strange, huh?

Love,Jill

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

Subject: Re: Intro

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 10:15 PM

Pamela,

Don't rush that. The time will come when it will seem right to go through your

Mom's things and part with some of them. Some you'll never want to part with.