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I know people with dental infections (with pain) who've applied

nystatin directly to the gums around infected teeth (they held the

tablets in place until they dissolved) and experienced dramatic

reduction in pain or mental fogginess. My doctor friend (who died)

started " sucking on " nystatin almost all day long (after meeting

Tony). It helped him get his medical license back. He had just

started working again in my doctor's office and was finally getting

the abx he needed, but a seizure got him first. He died while he was

at a medical conference trying to convince other doctors about the

seriousness of these infections. Talk about making your point.

I've seen the same thing with other anti-microbials placed near the

site of infection. One of the " advantages " people with dental pain

have, is that they can tell if they hit on a good drug, because the

pain diminishes greatly. I've seen this time and again.

I also gauge my own abx effectiveness this way. I don't have

terrible pain, but I do have occasional pain and a mild achiness,

with a constant kind of pressure, in my jaw. Certain antibiotics

make that go away, and over time my fatigue lifts as well. I can

tell when the abx is wearing off (on a daily basis), or losing the

battle altogether, because the pressure/pain comes back.

penny

> > > > > Tony I'm curious your thoughts on the antifungals as

> > antibiotics.

> > > > >

> > > > > I now realize, with some new information I've been given

that

> > > will

> > > > be

> > > > > out next year, that band 93 is diagnostic and that I got

lyme

> > the

> > > > > first time at age 21 (summer, connecticut, atypical rash

and

> > > joint

> > > > > soreness, no idea what I had) that resulted in episodic

weird

> > > > > inflammatory conditions and persistent infections off and

on

> > for

> > > > 20

> > > > > years. During that time I believe it was all fungal (and

did

> > have

> > > > > fungal issues start up, since lyme is immunosuppressive,

they

> > are

> > > > now

> > > > > figuring out it downregulates certain tcell mitogens, cd57

> and

> > > > > natural killer cells). However I used to feel better if I

> took

> > > any

> > > > > antifungal, nizoral was what they had back then; even

> nystatin.

> > > > >

> > > > > Since Dr Schardt now has a protocol with diflucan...for

> > > > lyme...that

> > > > > is helping some lymies, I am now wondering if the

antifungals

> > are

> > > > > viewed too narrowly. For instance nystatin interrupts

> > ergosterol

> > > > in

> > > > > yeast, well who's to say lyme doesnt need that too, after

> all,

> > > > lymies

> > > > > often find themselves with raised cholesterol, i.e. lyme

> > cannot

> > > > make

> > > > > some of its own fats and uses ours.

> > > > >

> > > > > Also, many of the antifungals end in azole and the

> > antiparasitics

> > > > in

> > > > > azole (flagyl, tinidazole), the latter are often helpful

in

> > lyme.

> > > > >

> > > > > I know you don't think so much of lyme but that's okay, a

> book

> > > > will

> > > > > come out next year that will blow your mind and all

> > > scientifically

> > > > > legal documented. BUt for now my question is actually more

> > > > general.

> > > > > Have we overlooked antifungal efficacy in broader ways.

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