Guest guest Posted June 11, 2005 Report Share Posted June 11, 2005 I know people with dental infections (with pain) who've applied nystatin directly to the gums around infected teeth (they held the tablets in place until they dissolved) and experienced dramatic reduction in pain or mental fogginess. My doctor friend (who died) started " sucking on " nystatin almost all day long (after meeting Tony). It helped him get his medical license back. He had just started working again in my doctor's office and was finally getting the abx he needed, but a seizure got him first. He died while he was at a medical conference trying to convince other doctors about the seriousness of these infections. Talk about making your point. I've seen the same thing with other anti-microbials placed near the site of infection. One of the " advantages " people with dental pain have, is that they can tell if they hit on a good drug, because the pain diminishes greatly. I've seen this time and again. I also gauge my own abx effectiveness this way. I don't have terrible pain, but I do have occasional pain and a mild achiness, with a constant kind of pressure, in my jaw. Certain antibiotics make that go away, and over time my fatigue lifts as well. I can tell when the abx is wearing off (on a daily basis), or losing the battle altogether, because the pressure/pain comes back. penny > > > > > Tony I'm curious your thoughts on the antifungals as > > antibiotics. > > > > > > > > > > I now realize, with some new information I've been given that > > > will > > > > be > > > > > out next year, that band 93 is diagnostic and that I got lyme > > the > > > > > first time at age 21 (summer, connecticut, atypical rash and > > > joint > > > > > soreness, no idea what I had) that resulted in episodic weird > > > > > inflammatory conditions and persistent infections off and on > > for > > > > 20 > > > > > years. During that time I believe it was all fungal (and did > > have > > > > > fungal issues start up, since lyme is immunosuppressive, they > > are > > > > now > > > > > figuring out it downregulates certain tcell mitogens, cd57 > and > > > > > natural killer cells). However I used to feel better if I > took > > > any > > > > > antifungal, nizoral was what they had back then; even > nystatin. > > > > > > > > > > Since Dr Schardt now has a protocol with diflucan...for > > > > lyme...that > > > > > is helping some lymies, I am now wondering if the antifungals > > are > > > > > viewed too narrowly. For instance nystatin interrupts > > ergosterol > > > > in > > > > > yeast, well who's to say lyme doesnt need that too, after > all, > > > > lymies > > > > > often find themselves with raised cholesterol, i.e. lyme > > cannot > > > > make > > > > > some of its own fats and uses ours. > > > > > > > > > > Also, many of the antifungals end in azole and the > > antiparasitics > > > > in > > > > > azole (flagyl, tinidazole), the latter are often helpful in > > lyme. > > > > > > > > > > I know you don't think so much of lyme but that's okay, a > book > > > > will > > > > > come out next year that will blow your mind and all > > > scientifically > > > > > legal documented. BUt for now my question is actually more > > > > general. > > > > > Have we overlooked antifungal efficacy in broader ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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