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I use Kirk's castile bar soap for shampoo. It lathers great and rinses

clean and it's inexpensive. Most grocery stores carry it around us.

To rinse with ACV or soda batches that didn't turn out, I fill a squeeze

bottle.. old dish detergent bottle or old shampoo bottle with it and

leave it in the shower. I never have a problem with it getting into my

eyes and my little girls use it with no problems either.

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I have Dr Bronner's castile liquid soap and tried that in my hair...My

hair/head, wich I've only used just normal shampoos for, turned very oily and

never felt very good...I generally just use Nature's Gate herbal shampoo and no

conditioner. I am going to try this ACV rinse though!

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I use Kirk's castile bar soap for shampoo. It lathers great and rinses

clean and it's inexpensive. Most grocery stores carry it around us.

To rinse with ACV or soda batches that didn't turn out, I fill a squeeze

bottle.. old dish detergent bottle or old shampoo bottle with it and

leave it in the shower. I never have a problem with it getting into my

eyes and my little girls use it with no problems either.

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I used to love Biolage, but thought it contained chemical additives.

You should check into Aveda products. I don't know that much about them except that they are natural. Even in their salons, Aveda perms and color contain only natural ingredients. People who use these products swear by them. I'm sure Aveda has a website where you can get more information.

Gloria

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I do believe it uses chemical additives.

Try Nature's Gate products.

Also shampoos by Aubrey Organics. You can get them in a health food store.

Aubrey Organics -- Aloe Essence Clarifying Shampoo for Oily Hair

Gloria

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B. A recipe for making my own shampoo which would not have the build up?

I use my own soaps for my shampoo and love it. I'm still experimenting on the conditioner and so still rely on store bought stuff. I've got long hair and it's scarey not to have a good conditioner or it'll take me hours to comb it out. :)) I'd run all these recipes thru a lye calculator just in case of a misprint to make sure they're right. If you need one, holler. There are websites with good calculators on them and I've got an Excel spreadsheet one to upload.

5.5 oz Olive Oil

4.5 oz Castor oil

4.5 oz Coconut oil

o.5 oz Jojoba oil

6 oz water (liquid)

2.03 oz lye

25 oz olive oil

l0 oz palm 9 l/2 oz palm kernal

22 oz coconut oil

3 oz rosehip seed oil

24 oz milk, i split this in half with water, mixed the water part with lye and poured the milk in at trace.

3 oz cocoa butter

3 oz shea butter

..5 oz lanolin

2 oz castor oil

2 oz sweet almond

l/2 oz vitamin e

l oz emu oil

Jojoba Shampoo 5.5 oz Olive Oil

4.5 oz Castor oil

4.5 oz Coconut oil

o.5 oz Jojoba oil

6 oz water (liquid)

2.03 oz lye

*CONDITIONING JOJOBA SHAMPOO BAR*

28 oz palm kernel oil

20 oz castor oil

8 oz wheatgerm oil

6 oz avocado oil

4 oz jojoba oil

4 oz cocoa butter

4 oz coconut oil

3 oz beeswax

2 oz shea butter

30 oz cold water

10 oz lye

_______

20 oz sunflower oil

6 oz coconut oil

4 oz castor oil

4 oz lye

4 oz water

7 oz very strong chamomile tea ( with 2 teasp. sugar added)

Take all precautions. Add lye to water Melt oils together Add lye water to oils and mix to trace add chamomile tea mix back to trace________

For a deep conditioning, just use olive oil once or twice a week that you've infused some herbs in - like rosemary, nettles, sage, horsetail, etc. Simple Solution:printer friendly version It just may be the secret of the ages for the aid of dry, damaged, brittle hair. Here is a formula that takes under a minute to make (all you need is a bowl and spoon), and you can easily customize it with essential oils of your choice.If your hair has any problems at all, you’ll want to see this!Ingredients¼ cup aloe vera gel (readily available in health food stores) ½ of a lemon 3-5 drops essential oils of your choice To makeMix the aloe vera gel with the juice of half a lemon. Add the essential oils.To useApply to freshly shampooed hair. Leave on for 3 to 5 minutes, then rinse thoroughly.I'm also experimenting with herbs in the soap as well as in the conditioner and here's some info I've found on them:Herbs For Healthy Hair1. Sage: Excellent for weak hair. 2. Rosemary: Enhances dark hair 3. Chamomile: Promotes healthy hair growth. 4. Catnip: Promotes hair growth. 5. Burdock Root: Promotes hair growth and reduces hair from falling out. There are a lot more herbs that are fantastic for hair than these - I'll find the info and post later. Becky Experience is a wonderful thing. It enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.

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My hair is long and very dry from the minerals in our well water, and I have tried dozens of different conditioners, but so far haven't found one that worked as well as the standard brands.

Roni, I'm a hairdresser and I see this stuff all the time..dry hair etc. First off, never use anything that claims to give more volume to your hair. Volumizing products open the cuticle of the hair shaft and blow them up, but in the process make hair dry. If you have mineral deposits on your hair, I suggest a clarifying shampoo which takes minerals (and also chlorine) out of the hair, because the minerals acually coat it and you can't simply wash them out with regular shampoo. In the salon we use Alternate Action by Matrix to get rid of the deposits on hair. I wouldn't use it everytime, but at least every 4th or 5th shampoo. Another way to do it is to use plain shampoo with a blob of baking soda mixed in. You really lather it into the hair, but the trick is rinsing enough to get it all out. With long hair it could be a real job, but we sometimes use the baking soda mixture when we have a head coated with lots of chlorine or other chemicals. I think the minerals from your water are contributing to your hair being so dry.

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Are Matrix Biolage and/or Back to Basics made with all natural ingredients? The reason I ask is because since I have changed all of my personal care to all natural I have not been able to find a conditioner that really worked well for my hair. I used to love Biolage, but thought it contained chemical additives.

Love,

RoniMorningGlory113@... wrote:

I also like Matrix Biolage products (in a salon). They are fantastic.Matrix Biolage is a great shampoo. I use Back To Basics shampoo and also conditioner (in a salon also) and have been for years. The salon where I get it has huge sales about twice a year and I stock up.Gloria

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Roni,

I do believe it uses chemical additives.

Try Nature's Gate products.

http://www.worldpantry.com/cgi-

bin/ncommerce/ExecMacro/naturesgate/home.d2w/report

Their products are fantastic (I use one of their

shampoo/conditioners).

Or you could always make your own :) But, I do use moisturizers and

hand soaps by Nature's Gate as well. Just a thought!

>

> I also like Matrix Biolage products (in a salon). They are

fantastic.

>

> Matrix Biolage is a great shampoo. I use Back To Basics shampoo and

also conditioner (in a salon also) and have been for years. The salon

where I get it has huge sales about twice a year and I stock up.

>

> Gloria

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> Thanks ,

> I do use natures Gate shampoo and conditioner now. They have an

asian pear and red tea one that smells wonderful and so far is the

best I have found, but it still doesn't moisturize my hair quite

enough. My hair is long and very dry from the minerals in our well

water, and I have tried dozens of different conditioners, but so far

haven't found one that worked as well as the standard brands. Maybe I

should start making my own, I haven't tried that yet. THave a great day!

>

> Love,

> Roni

>

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Anyone familiar with Terressentials? I have heard that they are quite

good as well. I don't really know though as I have never tried them.

Unfortunately, most purchased conditioners use some form of synthetic

or chemically derived natural component. Have you considered using

Jojoba or Hemp seed oil with some blend of essential oils for

conditioning? Using a vinegar rinse is great at stripping off the

shampoo build up. Just some thoughts.

Don Quai

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Roni, buy some shea butter, saturate your hair with it. Then wrap a warm towel around your head for 20 minutes and shampoo/condition like normal. Should help with the dryness.

Janet

----- Original Message -----

From: Roni Slye

health

Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: Re: shampoo

Thanks ,

I do use natures Gate shampoo and conditioner now. They have an asian pear and red tea one that smells wonderful and so far is the best I have found, but it still doesn't moisturize my hair quite enough. My hair is long and very dry from the minerals in our well water, and I have tried dozens of different conditioners, but so far haven't found one that worked as well as the standard brands. Maybe I should start making my own, I haven't tried that yet. THave a great day!

Love,

Ronisarahlovell@... wrote:

Roni,I do believe it uses chemical additives. Try Nature's Gate products. http://www.worldpantry.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/ExecMacro/naturesgate/home.d2w/reportTheir products are fantastic (I use one of their shampoo/conditioners). Or you could always make your own :) But, I do use moisturizers and hand soaps by Nature's Gate as well. Just a thought!> > I also like Matrix Biolage products (in a salon). They are fantastic.> > Matrix Biolage is a great shampoo. I use Back To Basics shampoo and also conditioner (in a salon also) and have been for years. The salon where I get it has huge sales about twice a year and I stock up.> > Gloria> > > > > > >

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Hi everybody,

Thanks for all the ideas. I haven't had time to look in the files but I will do so.

BTW, as I have understood it, brunettes use the vinegar rinse, blondes use a lemon rinse.

Luvvya,

TerriLynne

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Carol Minnick wrote:

> Why do you use Matrix Biolage and Back to Basics? Have you read the

> ingredients??? Yuk, I wouldn’t want that stuff being absorbed into my

> skin. There’s only a few ingredients in there that are actually ok.

> Just because it’s sold by a salon with a high price doesn’t mean it’s

> good for your hair and skin.

>

> Carol

>

> Matrix Biolage Ingredients: Water/Aqua, Sodium Laureth Sulfate,

> Disodium Cocoamphodiacetate, Dimethicone, Cetyl Alcohol, Hexylene

> Glycol, Hydroxstearyl Cetyl Ether, Sodium Cetearyl Sulfate, Cocmaide

> MIPA, Fragrance, Citric Acid, Propylene Glycol, Benzoic Acid,

> Salicylic Acid, Guar Hydroxypropltrimonium Chloride, Methylparaben,

> Sodium Citrate, Disodium EDTA, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Poylsorbate

> 20, Propylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Arginine HCl, Algae Extract/Algae,

> Safe Leaf Extract/Salvia Officinalis, Pollen Extract, Saponaria

> Officinalis Extract/Saponaria Officinalis, Silk Amino Acids, Wheat

> Germ Oil/Triticum Vulgare, Lemongrass Extract/Cymbopogon Schoenanthus

> (D4653/1)

>

> Back to Basics Ingredients: Water (Aqua), Sodium Laureth Sulfate,

> Disodium Cocamphodiacetate, Cocamide DEA, Polyquaternium-7, Sweet

> Almond (Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis) Oil, Clover (trifolium pratense)

> Extract, Raspberry (Rubus Idaeus) Extract, Sambucus Nigra Extract,

> Sweet Almond (Prunus Amygdalus Dulcis) Extract, DL-Panthenol, Ascorbic

> Acid (vitamin C), Hydrolyzed Wheat Protein, Riboflavin (Pro-B2),

> Retinyl (vitamin A) Palmitate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Panthenol

> (provitamin B5), Hydroxypropyl Guar Hydroxypropyl Trimonium Chloride,

> Propylene Glycol, Citric Acid, Methylparaben, Tetrasodium EDTA, Sodium

> Chloride, Methylchloroisothiazolinone, Methylisothiazolinone, D & C Red

> No. 33 (Cl 17200), Fragrance (Parfum)

>

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Yikes and ay carumba!! This for the shampoos or conditioners? Some

really nasty ingredients in there. Gotta agree with you on this one

Carol. I wouldn't use these products either. Doesn't matter what you put

on your head it will go through the skin. This is proven. And some of

the chemicals in this soup are proven to be bad for your health. These

companies will tell you that you can't make a good conditioner without

all these chemicals. I say hawgwash. They aren't forced to because the

FDA, USDA, BVD, FFA, TVA, WWW, and all those other fancy acronyms allow

them to make their concoctions with this junk. No body forces them to be

totally humane. If they did you would see a ton of products that were

completely 100% safe.

--

Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

" Spirit sleeps in the mineral, breathes in the vegetable, dreams in the animal

and wakes in man. "

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Waymon Cowley wrote:

>

> What a coincidence that this topic came up. I just got a copy of

> " Medical Botany " , by , from my local library. There is a section

> on hair that has some ideas you might find helpful. Here are a couple

> of tid bits: a rinse form equal parts of Roman or German chamomile and

> yarrow to strengthen, brighten and stimulate blonde hair; rosemary and

> garden sage for brunettes. The base of a homemade shampoo can be made

> with the leaves of soapwort (Saponaria officinalis) mixed with the

> herb extract of your choice. Soapwort and powdered or extract of

> chamomile could be a nice natural shampoo.

>

> I'm sure you can get the book from your local library.

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Nice book. I am hoping maybe Santa Claus will bring me a copy. Hehehehe

I would love to get a copy of Bigelow's Medical Botany though. I

believe it was written in the early 1800's. Guess I'm just a sucker for

old time books.

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Peace, love and light,

Don Quai

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and wakes in man. "

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Add a little lavender EO to the shea butter and use that as a rinse off conditioner too. I use it as a moisturizing cream as well great stuff.

Janet

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From: Roni Slye

health

Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 7:43 PM

Subject: Re: Re: shampoo

Thanks for the tip, Janet! I just happen to have some shea butter, so I'll give it a try. I love to experiment ;-) I do use olive oil on my hair with a towel like you suggest about once a week, which helps, but I need something to use after shampooing that works well. With all of these wonderful suggestions I'm sure I'll find something though.

Love,

RoniJanet Seidlitz <dragonhealing@...> wrote:

Roni, buy some shea butter, saturate your hair with it. Then wrap a warm towel around your head for 20 minutes and shampoo/condition like normal. Should help with the dryness.

Janet

----- Original Message -----

From: Roni Slye

health

Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 6:55 AM

Subject: Re: Re: shampoo

Thanks ,

I do use natures Gate shampoo and conditioner now. They have an asian pear and red tea one that smells wonderful and so far is the best I have found, but it still doesn't moisturize my hair quite enough. My hair is long and very dry from the minerals in our well water, and I have tried dozens of different conditioners, but so far haven't found one that worked as well as the standard brands. Maybe I should start making my own, I haven't tried that yet. THave a great day!

Love,

Ronisarahlovell@... wrote:

Roni,I do believe it uses chemical additives. Try Nature's Gate products. http://www.worldpantry.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/ExecMacro/naturesgate/home.d2w/reportTheir products are fantastic (I use one of their shampoo/conditioners). Or you could always make your own :) But, I do use moisturizers and hand soaps by Nature's Gate as well. Just a thought!> > I also like Matrix Biolage products (in a salon). They are fantastic.> > Matrix Biolage is a great shampoo. I use Back To Basics shampoo and also conditioner (in a salon also) and have been for years. The salon where I get it has huge sales about twice a year and I stock up.> > Gloria> > > > > > >

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Hi,

I use Dr Bronners pure Castile liquid soap, the one with Lavender oil, just a

few drops and for

conditioner I use ACV diluted with water.

Persian

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> Aveda has plenty of chemical additives! I stopped using them because

> of it. They love to say they are natural but they really arent

> very!!! I wish they would get with the program because I used to love

> their products!

>

> J

=================================

And they can get away with saying that as long as all the ingredients

come from a natural source. Doesn't matter how changed it might be from

its initial natural condition. As long as it comes from a natural

source. This is why we need to know and educate ourselves as to what the

industry actually means when they say organic or natural. This goes with

anything manufactured by man that has to do with food, medicine,

cosmetics or anything else that gets placed into or onto the body.

There are some good books out there that go into detail about what these

chemicals are that go into food and cosmetics. They are worth having

around if one really wants to educate themselves.

--

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Hi Lynn,

Here's my advice:

1) Ditch any cosmetics, soaps, lotions, etc. that have wheat/gluten

in them. They can definitely cause you problems. There's some debate

about whether or not they get absorbed in the skin, but at minimum,

you've got the stuff on your hands and it might get into your mouth.

So get rid of it.

2) Check for other food intolerances. When I went gluten free I

improved but still wasn't feeling that great. It turned out that I

had other intolerances that were keeping me from feeling better. I

didn't feel better until I got rid of soy and almonds and cut back on

dairy. It's hard to know what you are intolerant of so I'd suggest

some formal blood testing for that. It's not always accurate, but it

can give you a starting point.

3) Get your thyroid levels tested. Hypothyroidism and Celiac are

related. Hypothyroidism causes fatigue, hair loss and

depression/anxiety. Please get a copy of your test results from your

doctor and make sure that your TSH is below 2. Some docs will tell

you that anything under 4 is ok, but it isn't. Anything below 2 can

cause symptoms. You should also get your thyroid antibodies checked

because you can have a normal TSH but elevated antibodies and that

can also cause symptoms.

4) Get your vitamin levels checked. If you have damage to your small

intestine, chances are you are not absorbing nutrients properly. You

might be low on B12, which can also cause fatigue and mood related

stuff. My doc says that you should be in the upper quadrant of the

normal range for B12 or else you may still have symptoms. My B12 is

technically normal, but I was having a bunch of problems which have

been helped with supplementation.

Good luck! It will get better.

>

> Hi,

>

> This is my first post to the group (sorry -- it is kind of

longish). I

> have a question that some of you wise Celiacs might be able to

answer.

> I know that I am wheat intolerant & maybe Celiac (but haven't gone

> through the biopsy yet -- and don't care to go back to eating gluten

> to get an official diagnosis). I have been on the GF diet for 6

months

> and am having a rather hard time of it. The diet itself hasn't been

> too much of a problem (I'm motivated) but I haven't seen the

dramatic

> improvements I had hoped for. I am encouraged by all that I have

been

> reading that says it often takes a year to feel better, so that

keeps

> me going.

>

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I'm definitely overweight, I've taken a lot of Prednisone over the past eight years; I was underweight before the Prednisone, and I still do.

Last month I saw an endocrinologist about bone problems. He suggested that we talk about Hashimoto's at the next appointment. That is, if I understood him correctly, remember correctly. It's possible that there are exceptions to the weight-loss symptomology. Or, I could be all wrong -- very possible.

H.

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Just fyi, Hashimoto's is associated with weight gain, not weight loss. It's an autoimmune disease in which the thyroid is being destroyed, which results in low thyroid hormone levels. Low thyroid slows metabolism, and often leads to weight gain, fatigue and lethargy, among other things. (It's easily treatable with replacement thyroid hormone pills.)

 

Best of luck with figuring out what is ailing you! If you also have excessive thirst, definitely test for diabetes.

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Your insurance company or HMO may not be willing to do formal food testing just on your request. You could start by seeing what happens if you avoid one thing (say, dairy products) for a while. Then try another. Keep a food diary while you're doing this.

I felt infinitely better one week after I dropped dairy. Before, I felt as if I might have to go into a nursing home -- I was barely able to take care of myself. It was just lactose intolerance. A year later, I was able to gradually reintroduce dairy products in moderate amounts.

H.

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It's hard to know what you are intolerant of so I'd suggest

some formal blood testing for that. It's not always accurate, but it

can give you a starting point.

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And definitely check for B1 deficiency, which is what caused a lot of my symptoms..

In a message dated 12/16/08 5:38:53 PM, marcianar@... writes:

several of your symptoms sound more like nutritional deficiences related to celiac rather

than gluten reactions. Have you have your iron, ferritin, B12 and other vitamin levels

checked?

Maureen

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Hi Lynn!

The Wellshire Farms may very well have done it, I am so glad that we

all found out about thier tainted products!!

Take care,

www.NaturallyDahling.com

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > This is my first post to the group (sorry -- it is kind of

> > longish). I

> > > have a question that some of you wise Celiacs might be able to

> > answer.

> > > I know that I am wheat intolerant & maybe Celiac (but haven't

gone

> > > through the biopsy yet -- and don't care to go back to eating

gluten

> > > to get an official diagnosis). I have been on the GF diet for 6

> > months

> > > and am having a rather hard time of it. The diet itself hasn't

been

> > > too much of a problem (I'm motivated) but I haven't seen the

> > dramatic

> > > improvements I had hoped for. I am encouraged by all that I

have

> > been

> > > reading that says it often takes a year to feel better, so that

> > keeps

> > > me going.

> > >

> > > However, since I am still feeling bad, I am trying to seek out

> > > possible hidden sources of gluten in my life & was reading my

> > shampoo

> > > bottle the other day & noticed that it has wheat gluten as an

> > > ingredient. Is this something I should be concerned about since

I

> > > don't actually ingest it? If so, does anyone have any

> > recommendations?

> > > The brand I have been using is bumble and bumble.

> > >

> > > I will give you a quick list of symptoms I have been having or

that

> > > have been improving since I have gone GF in case it helps

anyone

> > else

> > > out there or if you have any insights:

> > >

> > > improved --

> > > face redness/acne 90% improved

> > > stomach pain 90% improved

> > > nausea 90% improved

> > > stomach bloating 50% improved

> > > weight loss 10 lbs. (although I am eating 2x more)

> > > acid reflux 30% improved

> > > belching 80% improved

> > >

> > > not improved or new developments--

> > > mood problems/irritability/anxiety (these are the worst)

> > > extreme hunger (I have to eat every 2-3 hours)

> > > hair loss (new since going GF)

> > > insomnia (new since going GF)

> > > joint pain

> > > fatigue

> > >

> > > Many thanks.

> > >

> >

>

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Actually Hashimoto's can cause either hypothyroidism (which causes weight gain) or, less commonly, hyperthyroidism (which causes weight loss)--basically the body is attacking the thyroid gland and it goes haywire, and so can become underactive or overactive, or alternate between the two. Weight loss could also be caused by other things, like diabetes, and regardless the whole bunch of symptoms should be evaluated by an endocrinologist.MarciOn Dec 16, 2008, at 11:58 AM, D Darcy wrote: Just fyi, Hashimoto's is associated with weight gain, not weight loss. It's an autoimmune disease in which the thyroid is being destroyed, which results in low thyroid hormone levels. Low thyroid slows metabolism, and often leads to weight gain, fatigue and lethargy, among other things. (It's easily treatable with replacement thyroid hormone pills.) Best of luck with figuring out what is ailing you! If you also have excessive thirst, definitely test for diabetes. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of cunninghamlynn68Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:46 AM Subject: [ ] Re: shampoo Thanks everyone for your very informative responses. This is all *so*helpful. I guess it is back to the doctor for me...You *are* such very wise Celiacs ;)Lynn> > > From: cunninghamlynn68 <cunningh@...>> > Subject: [ ] shampoo> > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 2008, 4:34 PM> > Hi,> > > > This is my first post to the group (sorry -- it is kind of> > longish). I> > have a question that some of you wise Celiacs might be able> > to answer.> > I know that I am wheat intolerant & maybe Celiac (but> > haven't gone> > through the biopsy yet -- and don't care to go back to> > eating gluten> > to get an official diagnosis). I have been on the GF diet> > for 6 months> > and am having a rather hard time of it. The diet itself> > hasn't been> > too much of a problem (I'm motivated) but I haven't> > seen the dramatic> > improvements I had hoped for. I am encouraged by all that I> > have been> > reading that says it often takes a year to feel better, so> > that keeps> > me going. > > > > However, since I am still feeling bad, I am trying to seek> > out> > possible hidden sources of gluten in my life & was> > reading my shampoo> > bottle the other day & noticed that it has wheat gluten> > as an> > ingredient. Is this something I should be concerned about> > since I> > don't actually ingest it? If so, does anyone have any> > recommendations?> > The brand I have been using is bumble and bumble.> > > > I will give you a quick list of symptoms I have been having> > or that> > have been improving since I have gone GF in case it helps> > anyone else> > out there or if you have any insights:> > > > improved --> > face redness/acne 90% improved> > stomach pain 90% improved> > nausea 90% improved> > stomach bloating 50% improved> > weight loss 10 lbs. (although I am eating 2x more)> > acid reflux 30% improved> > belching 80% improved> > > > not improved or new developments--> > mood problems/irritability/anxiety (these are the worst)> > extreme hunger (I have to eat every 2-3 hours)> > hair loss (new since going GF)> > insomnia (new since going GF)> > joint pain> > fatigue> > > > Many thanks.> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------> > > >

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Yes, this is very true. Plus, even if you are hypothyroid, it doesn't

mean you will gain weight. I have Hashimoto's with hypothyroidism but

was thin and had lost weight prior to the diagnosis.

>

> > Just fyi, Hashimoto's is associated with weight gain, not weight

> > loss. It's an autoimmune disease in which the thyroid is being

> > destroyed, which results in low thyroid hormone levels. Low

thyroid

> > slows metabolism, and often leads to weight gain, fatigue and

> > lethargy, among other things. (It's easily treatable with

> > replacement thyroid hormone pills.)

> >

> > Best of luck with figuring out what is ailing you! If you also

have

> > excessive thirst, definitely test for diabetes.

> >

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> improved --

> face redness/acne 90% improved

> stomach pain 90% improved

> nausea 90% improved

> stomach bloating 50% improved

> weight loss 10 lbs. (although I am eating 2x more)

> acid reflux 30% improved

> belching 80% improved

>

> not improved or new developments--

> mood problems/irritability/anxiety (these are the worst)

> extreme hunger (I have to eat every 2-3 hours)

> hair loss (new since going GF)

> insomnia (new since going GF)

> joint pain

> fatigue

>

> Many thanks.

several of your symptoms sound more like nutritional deficiences related to

celiac rather

than gluten reactions. Have you have your iron, ferritin, B12 and other vitamin

levels

checked?

Maureen

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