Re: Jill

[Guest guest]

My wifes doctor thought Insoon was developing diabetes and had her referred for

an eye test to rule it out. Has anyone heard of this? The doctor looked at the

cornea I believe.

MaC

abijann <no_reply > wrote: There is a

study going on, right now, where they are checking the

sugar levels in cirrhosis patients. It is being used since there

is a sugar level (glucose) change in the liver when the liver cells

die. This may lead to a better determination of who has cirrhosis

by have this level tested instead of doing a liver biopsy.

It is still in the making, but they are studying this now. Since

this is a new development, they might not consider this a true

indicator of liver cirrhosis patients having diabetes until all the

results come in from research.

However, they do know that the anti rejection drugs taken after

the transplant will give the patient diabetes because of these

drugs and also if they have hereditary backgrounds that it could

develop. Prograf is an anti rejection drugs that has shown to

cause this...yet, it is the top drug used and probably the best

drugs known to stop rejection.

[Guest guest]

Yes, our eye doctor was just discussing that with us last month. I knew they

could spot diabeties, but she listed other illnesses as well. I can't remember

them though.

Pamela

Re: Jill

My wifes doctor thought Insoon was developing diabetes and had her referred

for an eye test to rule it out. Has anyone heard of this? The doctor looked at

the cornea I believe.

MaC

abijann <no_reply > wrote: There is a study going on, right

now, where they are checking the

sugar levels in cirrhosis patients. It is being used since there

is a sugar level (glucose) change in the liver when the liver cells

die. This may lead to a better determination of who has cirrhosis

by have this level tested instead of doing a liver biopsy.

It is still in the making, but they are studying this now. Since

this is a new development, they might not consider this a true

indicator of liver cirrhosis patients having diabetes until all the

results come in from research.

However, they do know that the anti rejection drugs taken after

the transplant will give the patient diabetes because of these

drugs and also if they have hereditary backgrounds that it could

develop. Prograf is an anti rejection drugs that has shown to

cause this...yet, it is the top drug used and probably the best

drugs known to stop rejection.

[Guest guest]

Eye doctors can see lots of things indicating a problem in another part of

the body. It was an eye doctor who told my daughter to take her son in for

testing that determined he had chiari malformation. And it was an eye

doctor who told me that my thyroid level was probably low. Jan H

> My wifes doctor thought Insoon was developing diabetes and had her

> referred for an eye test to rule it out. Has anyone heard of this? The

> doctor looked at the cornea I believe.

>

> MaC

>

> abijann <no_reply <no_reply%40yahoogroups.com>> wrote:

> There is a study going on, right now, where they are checking the

> sugar levels in cirrhosis patients. It is being used since there

> is a sugar level (glucose) change in the liver when the liver cells

> die. This may lead to a better determination of who has cirrhosis

> by have this level tested instead of doing a liver biopsy.

> It is still in the making, but they are studying this now. Since

> this is a new development, they might not consider this a true

> indicator of liver cirrhosis patients having diabetes until all the

> results come in from research.

>

> However, they do know that the anti rejection drugs taken after

> the transplant will give the patient diabetes because of these

> drugs and also if they have hereditary backgrounds that it could

> develop. Prograf is an anti rejection drugs that has shown to

> cause this...yet, it is the top drug used and probably the best

> drugs known to stop rejection.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, as a type II diabetic, this is a common exam for me.  At least once a year,

I have to have my corneas and retnas examined so they can look at the blood

vessels.  Changes in these vessels can indicate a developing eye problem in

diabetics.  It makes sense that they would have that test ordered for someone if

they were looking for diabetes.  Especially someone who is otherwise sick and

could show false positives and/or negatives.  The eye test is indisputable.

Re: Jill

My wifes doctor thought Insoon was developing diabetes and had her referred for

an eye test to rule it out. Has anyone heard of this? The doctor looked at the

cornea I believe.

MaC

abijann <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote: There is a study going on, right now,

where they are checking the

sugar levels in cirrhosis patients. It is being used since there

is a sugar level (glucose) change in the liver when the liver cells

die. This may lead to a better determination of who has cirrhosis

by have this level tested instead of doing a liver biopsy.

It is still in the making, but they are studying this now. Since

this is a new development, they might not consider this a true

indicator of liver cirrhosis patients having diabetes until all the

results come in from research.

However, they do know that the anti rejection drugs taken after

the transplant will give the patient diabetes because of these

drugs and also if they have hereditary backgrounds that it could

develop. Prograf is an anti rejection drugs that has shown to

cause this...yet, it is the top drug used and probably the best

drugs known to stop rejection.

[Guest guest]

Jill,

Yes, Prograf does cause diabetes. I developed diabetes after my

transplant and had to get insulin shots while in the hospital. My

glucose levels declined so I didn't need insulin once I was released

from the hospital, but I still had to check my blood sugar 4 times a

day for a couple of months. My glucose levels went back to normal,

and are now usually around 80 - 90. I will have to check my glucose

levels twice a day again when I start on the treatment for Hepatitis

C.

Penny

>

> There is a study going on, right now, where they are checking the

> sugar levels in cirrhosis patients. It is being used since there

> is a sugar level (glucose) change in the liver when the liver cells

> die. This may lead to a better determination of who has cirrhosis

> by have this level tested instead of doing a liver biopsy.

> It is still in the making, but they are studying this now. Since

> this is a new development, they might not consider this a true

> indicator of liver cirrhosis patients having diabetes until all the

> results come in from research.

>

> However, they do know that the anti rejection drugs taken after

> the transplant will give the patient diabetes because of these

> drugs and also if they have hereditary backgrounds that it could

> develop. Prograf is an anti rejection drugs that has shown to

> cause this...yet, it is the top drug used and probably the best

> drugs known to stop rejection.

>

[Guest guest]

I've tried.....but she has this ability to completely divorce her family. I

don't understand it.....when your loved one has a really serious illness..i.e

end stage liver failure...I don't get people, especially family members that

don't embrace what is really important. My Dh has ESLD and my other sister has

end stage kidney failure with no hope of a transplant..The sister in question

won't speak to any of us. I just don't get it. Thanks for caring Abijann. I love

you for it!

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

From: abijann <no_reply >

Subject: Jill

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 11:53 PM

I can't tell you the number of times I have made a fool of myself

in front of my family members. I try to save face by saying it

was stress, women hormonal problems, having a bad day and needing

to take it out on someone. I've made so many mistakes in my

life to realize I'm human for sure or maybe a little cracked.

The hardest thing a person can do is admit they were wrong about

something. When I've made myself look bad, it is also hard to

look someone in the eye afterward also or even talk about it.

It is easier just to walk away and hide.

I haven't done anything like that since my teen years, but still

I remember it all.

In stressful situations, people tend to react differently to

things that go on around about them. Even though they regret

it later.

My nieces fought in my brothers room when their dad was

dying and the fought at his funeral also. I have a feeling

that they regret it, now. Their emotional state wasn't

what it should have been and it is hard to handle emotions

when someone they loved has gone out of their life.

I wish you could also talk with your sister.

[Guest guest]

Yes , I really recommend it. This was my second session. I actually went for

weight loss, but it is such a great destresser too. You visualize while in

hypnosis.. I need to be calm and it helps me to get there.

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

From: abijann <no_reply >

Subject: Jill

To: livercirrhosissupport

Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 7:39 PM

I never heard of anyone who ever had that kind of therapy.

Do you recommend it?

Patient go through times when they either come to terms

with the disease they have and want help, or they

give up hope and want to not listen to anyone anymore and

try to die. It isn't anything that the family did to cause

this...it is what is going on inside their thoughts.

Yet, those who are trying to help the most...those who

love them are usually the ones who feel quilty because

they feel responsible to do anything they can to help them.

There is someone I know that was diagnosed with cancer. The

minute the doctor told them and they were released from

the hospital to go home...they sat in a chair and would not

move...they instantly lost all hope, did not want any kind

of therapy and refused to eat. The family took care of

them the best they could...She was loved so much, yet...she

couldn't see the love there because of the disease.

Talking to them and telling them that you are there for

them is about the only thing you can do. It may bring

them around or it may not.

[Guest guest]

Yes,yes,yes,it did wonders for my mother..She was a cigarette smoking Queen,whom

if after approx. 50 or so failed attempts finally tried hypnotherapy and WALLA!

I personally have never tried it,she really likes the guy,he's blind and makes

her laugh.

From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>

Subject: Jill

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 7:39 PM

I never heard of anyone who ever had that kind of therapy.

Do you recommend it?

Patient go through times when they either come to terms

with the disease they have and want help, or they

give up hope and want to not listen to anyone anymore and

try to die. It isn't anything that the family did to cause

this...it is what is going on inside their thoughts.

Yet, those who are trying to help the most...those who

love them are usually the ones who feel quilty because

they feel responsible to do anything they can to help them.

There is someone I know that was diagnosed with cancer. The

minute the doctor told them and they were released from

the hospital to go home...they sat in a chair and would not

move...they instantly lost all hope, did not want any kind

of therapy and refused to eat. The family took care of

them the best they could...She was loved so much, yet...she

couldn't see the love there because of the disease.

Talking to them and telling them that you are there for

them is about the only thing you can do. It may bring

them around or it may not.

[Guest guest]

I was so relaxed after today's session, if I could have stayed there and taken a

nap I would have!! He also gave me a strength stone today......to carry and

remind me to be strong..I think it will also remind me to pray for strength.

                                       

                                    Love,Jill

 

We don't remember days, we remember moments.

Life is not measured by the breaths we take,but by the moments that take our

breath away.

From: abijann <no_reply@yahoogrou p s.com>

Subject: Jill

To: livercirrhosissuppo rtyahoogroups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 7:39 PM

I never heard of anyone who ever had that kind of therapy.

Do you recommend it?

Patient go through times when they either come to terms

with the disease they have and want help, or they

give up hope and want to not listen to anyone anymore and

try to die. It isn't anything that the family did to cause

this...it is what is going on inside their thoughts.

Yet, those who are trying to help the most...those who

love them are usually the ones who feel quilty because

they feel responsible to do anything they can to help them.

There is someone I know that was diagnosed with cancer. The

minute the doctor told them and they were released from

the hospital to go home...they sat in a chair and would not

move...they instantly lost all hope, did not want any kind

of therapy and refused to eat. The family took care of

them the best they could...She was loved so much, yet...she

couldn't see the love there because of the disease.

Talking to them and telling them that you are there for

them is about the only thing you can do. It may bring

them around or it may not.