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Guys

The mainstream hospital system, someone practising giving serious

infections the serious treatmnent- never ONCE uses the word HERX. We

all pull out the autoimmune diseases stuff and ramble it out time

and time again.

I told somoen on the MP site when your supposedly herxing your

platelets are clumping and your red cells are being destroyed the

one person that bothered to look for her records while herxing

discovered just that.RED BLOOD CELL DESTRUCTION and PLATELET NUMBERS

GOING DOWN. That's what you do when your interested in science and

observation. I realise when you go to the library there's all sorts

of stuff, but the fact that no-one knows what causes most ilnesses,

I take it with a grain of salt.

Undermedicating a monster infection should have a name but no-one is

bothering to attach anything to it.bacteria firing back to stop

antibiotic attack doesn't come up anywhere in medical literature. We

don't apopear in any literature as infected individuals, it's time

to start putting 2 and 2 together guys. So here we have people with

fibro running fibro flares the lymies that run these flares attach

the herx label to them. I personally don't even beleive that gram

neg die off will hurt or herx you unlress it's discovered in blood

cultures. I have done so many blood cultures(23 bottles) I also hold

this record- and my immune system keeps pseudonomads at bay

otherwise I would have my goose cooked by this organism, so I doubt

it's giving me a herx. By the way it's a bad gram negative that's

highly resistant.

> > There's tons of data on what happens in a herx/die off, do you

have

> > data on bacterial annoyance?

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And, then again,

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=14750386 & query_hl=4

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=12604286 & query_hl=4

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=12182387 & query_hl=4

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=10923200 & query_hl=4

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=9733392 & query_hl=4

just for example...there were 8 more pages of such papers....

> > > There's tons of data on what happens in a herx/die off, do you

> have

> > > data on bacterial annoyance?

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I didn't see your post on the MP, but I do know that when I herx, my

coagulation does in fact get worse. Several people have noticed

this. It's a visual thing and I don't need a test to tell me it's

happening, althought I did have my hypercoagulation recheck checked

just for the science of it. I increased the heparin and I was good

to go. When this happens it is believed to be herx related, or due

to the dieoff/toxins.

> > > There's tons of data on what happens in a herx/die off, do you

> have

> > > data on bacterial annoyance?

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