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I will have to try the BOSE headphones. Anything that might help would be wonderful. I guess most of the other people I work with think I am nuts for wearing headphones all day, because no one else uses them. I feel like they think I am being rude, but I'm not.

I do have problems with telling stories or talking with people. Everyone tells me I repeat myself over and over. I don't even notice I am doing it. I am ADD and have always had real problems with my attention. I get distracted very easy and am really unorganized. I have 3 sons and all 3 were diagnosed with either ADD or ADHD when they were younger. My sister and her children are also ADD or ADHD.

It always amazes me that other people are not bothered by these noises. I can't begin to imagine what it would like to be "normal". I guess I would go nuts if I had to ride every day with people who chew gum or eat. I am not sure how you do it. It is all I can do to be in the car with my boyfriend if he has gum. I have told him it bothers me, but I don't think he really realizes just how bad it gets to me. Most of the time he doesn't chew it in the car, but if he does forget, I try not to say anything to him. I just sit there and resent him for doing it, which is not good to do.

Have you always been in an office environment?

Hope you have a nice quiet day and a peaceful weekend :-)

From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Pia LevensteinsSent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:32 AMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: RE:

Hi , I am 49 and ditto, ditto, ditto! I invested in the BOSE noise canceling headphones and they help a lot!! I really mean it. Without these I would have been fired already. In fact, I am on probation at work for complaining about people talking with their friends all day on the phone, people eating ...you know......I ride the subway and watch all the New Yorkers chomping away with their gum and it looks so disgusting. Years ago I wanted to make a video showing how ugly people look when they chew gum. There are so many different ways that they do it too. I am at my wits end most of the time.At work, these headphones have been a life saver. I do not have to have any music, just the headphones block out so much noise so I can concentrate!!Do you have trouble explaining things or telling long stories ???Some of us have found out that we have that in common as well!!It has been linked to us having some kind of ADD.At home I have a white noise machine that sounds like a fan and that helps a lot too!!Hang in there!!Pia>>Reply-To: Soundsensitivity >To: <Soundsensitivity >>Subject: Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:37:46 -0400>>It is so good to find other people with this same problem. I don't>usually talk about it, since no one understands what it is like, but it>is something that has such an overwhelming effect on my life. I am 48>and have dealt with this for as long as I can remember, but it seems to>be getting worse.>With me, I can't stand to hear someone eating, chewing gum, clipping>their nails, swallowing loudly, and the most annoying to me is someone>typing on a keyboard, which really is a problem, since I work in an>office area where everyone is typing. (Almost forgot, as a reminder,>this morning on my way in, I remembered I also can't stand to hear>someone walking in heels on hard floors or sandals that make a flapping>sound).>As for working in an office area, I have to wear headphones all day,>with the sound up so loud; I know I am doing damage to my hearing. I>try to get to work early, so I can get my headphones on before anyone>gets in and starts typing. If I don't have them on and someone around>me is typing, I start shaking. I will even start crying if I can't get>them going fast enough. If I am in a meeting and someone is chewing gum>or typing on their laptop, I couldn't tell you one thing that was>discussed, because all I hear is the noise. I feel at times as though I>am going to have a breakdown. When I do listen to headphones, it seems>music doesn't drown out the noise; it has to be people talking, so I>tape anything and don't actually watch it, but just listen to it all>day. If I were ever told I couldn't wear the headphones, I would not be>able to work. I almost start crying every morning, just knowing I have>to go in and deal with it.>I also have to keep a fan going at night to sleep. I can't sleep if it>is quiet. No other noises help, it has to be a fan or air conditioner.>I use these year round.>I have talked about this to numerous family doctors, psychiatrists and>psychologists, with no help. I don't even think they take this as being>a real problem. I have been given anti-depressants, anxiety medication>and been told to just breathe deep while listening to the noises and I>will get used to hearing them without them bothering me (yeah right!!!>They don't have a clue). None of the above has worked for me. The>medications don't stop the feelings I have when I hear the noises.>My middle son is 23. He has this same disorder, but typing doesn't>bother him. I think he is worse than I am with the eating and gum>chewing. He also works in an office area and someone was clipping their>nails. He said it got to him so bad, his face got red and he just stood>up and yelled for whoever was clipping their nails to stop and do it at>home. He said they stopped, but for that moment, he just lost it.>I don't notice the noises when I make them. I can type, eat, chew gum,>etc and it doesn't bother me. I don't even notice I am doing it, unless>I am chewing gum around my son, and he reminds me real fast.>I know a lot of people who are unable to work, because they have mental>disorders, but to my knowledge, I don't think this is even considered a>true mental disorder, and yet it is hard for me to imagine anyone's>nerves being as bad as ours, when we hear these noises.>I want to thank all of you for allowing me to talk about this, and have>someone who understands what I live with daily. It almost makes it a>little easier to deal with. I hope someday there will be a cure for>this, but I haven't found anything that helps.>>> Pendleton>Eastman Chemical Company>Business Specialist>Tel: >Email: tmpendleton@...>>>

[Guest guest]

Yes I have always worked in an office with terrible noises. One place this

lady had to use an electric stapler, OH MY GOD!

I also thought I was the only one in the world who got annoyed and lost

control at these things.

My hubby eats in the other room. There is no other way.

Get the BOSE online. I went on a payment plan for a year. $29.99 per month.

They are so weird. We are old enough now, me and you, to not care what

people think. I let everyone try them on because no one has ever " heard "

nothing before. It is very amazing how it works. Hopefully the whole office

will buy them!!!!! You will still be able to hear when someone wants you or

when your phone rings. This is a real solution!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR NOW!! If we

can only figure out how to have them implanted into our ears so no one would

know is the next step for the future!!

How I found this website for SSS was because I got in trouble for

complaining...and here we are. More and more people are finding us every

day!!

Did you know that gum is illegal in Singapore???

We can only dream of something like that here.

Order them today and you will have a lot of relief!!!

pia

>

>Reply-To: Soundsensitivity

>To: <Soundsensitivity >

>Subject: RE: RE:

>Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:59:06 -0400

>

>I will have to try the BOSE headphones. Anything that might help would

>be wonderful. I guess most of the other people I work with think I am

>nuts for wearing headphones all day, because no one else uses them. I

>feel like they think I am being rude, but I'm not.

>

>I do have problems with telling stories or talking with people.

>Everyone tells me I repeat myself over and over. I don't even notice I

>am doing it. I am ADD and have always had real problems with my

>attention. I get distracted very easy and am really unorganized. I

>have 3 sons and all 3 were diagnosed with either ADD or ADHD when they

>were younger. My sister and her children are also ADD or ADHD.

>

>It always amazes me that other people are not bothered by these noises.

>I can't begin to imagine what it would like to be " normal " . I guess I

>would go nuts if I had to ride every day with people who chew gum or

>eat. I am not sure how you do it. It is all I can do to be in the car

>with my boyfriend if he has gum. I have told him it bothers me, but I

>don't think he really realizes just how bad it gets to me. Most of the

>time he doesn't chew it in the car, but if he does forget, I try not to

>say anything to him. I just sit there and resent him for doing it,

>which is not good to do.

>

>Have you always been in an office environment?

>

>Hope you have a nice quiet day and a peaceful weekend :-)

>

>________________________________

>

>From: Soundsensitivity

>[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Pia Levensteins

>Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:32 AM

>To: Soundsensitivity

>Subject: RE:

>

>

>Hi , I am 49 and ditto, ditto, ditto! I invested in the BOSE noise

>

>canceling headphones and they help a lot!! I really mean it. Without

>these I

>would have been fired already. In fact, I am on probation at work for

>complaining about people talking with their friends all day on the

>phone,

>people eating ...you know......

>I ride the subway and watch all the New Yorkers chomping away with their

>gum

>and it looks so disgusting. Years ago I wanted to make a video showing

>how

>ugly people look when they chew gum. There are so many different ways

>that

>they do it too. I am at my wits end most of the time.

>At work, these headphones have been a life saver. I do not have to have

>any

>music, just the headphones block out so much noise so I can

>concentrate!!

>Do you have trouble explaining things or telling long stories ???

>Some of us have found out that we have that in common as well!!

>It has been linked to us having some kind of ADD.

>At home I have a white noise machine that sounds like a fan and that

>helps a

>lot too!!

>Hang in there!!

>Pia

>

>

> >

> >Reply-To: Soundsensitivity

> >To: <Soundsensitivity >

> >Subject: Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:37:46 -0400

> >

> >It is so good to find other people with this same problem. I don't

> >usually talk about it, since no one understands what it is like, but it

> >is something that has such an overwhelming effect on my life. I am 48

> >and have dealt with this for as long as I can remember, but it seems to

> >be getting worse.

> >With me, I can't stand to hear someone eating, chewing gum, clipping

> >their nails, swallowing loudly, and the most annoying to me is someone

> >typing on a keyboard, which really is a problem, since I work in an

> >office area where everyone is typing. (Almost forgot, as a reminder,

> >this morning on my way in, I remembered I also can't stand to hear

> >someone walking in heels on hard floors or sandals that make a flapping

> >sound).

> >As for working in an office area, I have to wear headphones all day,

> >with the sound up so loud; I know I am doing damage to my hearing. I

> >try to get to work early, so I can get my headphones on before anyone

> >gets in and starts typing. If I don't have them on and someone around

> >me is typing, I start shaking. I will even start crying if I can't get

> >them going fast enough. If I am in a meeting and someone is chewing

>gum

> >or typing on their laptop, I couldn't tell you one thing that was

> >discussed, because all I hear is the noise. I feel at times as though

>I

> >am going to have a breakdown. When I do listen to headphones, it seems

> >music doesn't drown out the noise; it has to be people talking, so I

> >tape anything and don't actually watch it, but just listen to it all

> >day. If I were ever told I couldn't wear the headphones, I would not

>be

> >able to work. I almost start crying every morning, just knowing I have

> >to go in and deal with it.

> >I also have to keep a fan going at night to sleep. I can't sleep if it

> >is quiet. No other noises help, it has to be a fan or air conditioner.

> >I use these year round.

> >I have talked about this to numerous family doctors, psychiatrists and

> >psychologists, with no help. I don't even think they take this as

>being

> >a real problem. I have been given anti-depressants, anxiety medication

> >and been told to just breathe deep while listening to the noises and I

> >will get used to hearing them without them bothering me (yeah right!!!

> >They don't have a clue). None of the above has worked for me. The

> >medications don't stop the feelings I have when I hear the noises.

> >My middle son is 23. He has this same disorder, but typing doesn't

> >bother him. I think he is worse than I am with the eating and gum

> >chewing. He also works in an office area and someone was clipping

>their

> >nails. He said it got to him so bad, his face got red and he just

>stood

> >up and yelled for whoever was clipping their nails to stop and do it at

> >home. He said they stopped, but for that moment, he just lost it.

> >I don't notice the noises when I make them. I can type, eat, chew gum,

> >etc and it doesn't bother me. I don't even notice I am doing it,

>unless

> >I am chewing gum around my son, and he reminds me real fast.

> >I know a lot of people who are unable to work, because they have mental

> >disorders, but to my knowledge, I don't think this is even considered a

> >true mental disorder, and yet it is hard for me to imagine anyone's

> >nerves being as bad as ours, when we hear these noises.

> >I want to thank all of you for allowing me to talk about this, and have

> >someone who understands what I live with daily. It almost makes it a

> >little easier to deal with. I hope someday there will be a cure for

> >this, but I haven't found anything that helps.

> >

> >

> > Pendleton

> >Eastman Chemical Company

> >Business Specialist

> >Tel:

> >Email: tmpendleton@...

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, I did know gum is illegal in Singapore. I was there for 4 weeks near the end of 2004, on a work related trip. This may sound crazy, but it drove me nuts not being able to chew gum there. I love to chew it, just can't stand to hear someone else do it. I wonder how many people out there that I bother, and don't realize I am doing it?? I had to buy a portable radio (with headphones) the first day there because of the typing in the office. Unfortunately, keyboards are legal, and I think they typed faster and louder than everyone in this office does:-).

I have worked for the same company for 30 years. I have only worked office work for the past 5 years. I did work in the plant area, driving a fork truck for 25 years, so I didn't have to deal with these noises. If someone was eating loudly in the break shack, I just walked out into the warehouse until they were done. As soon as I started office work, I had to use the headphones. This was when I also had to start seeing doctors, to see if they could help.

My boyfriend and I eat in the living room now (with the TV turned up). We have been together for around 7 years, and for the first year or so, it did not bother me at all that he chewed gum or ate loud. I always thought that was very odd. If this is something that is related to the noise itself, why did it not bother me at all when we were first together, but now it drives me crazy??? Also, if I get really, really involved in a project, such as working on a very detailed spreadsheet, where I have to really concentrate hard, I don't hear the noises. I have also thought that is strange.

When you are wearing the headphones, does it really drown out the other people typing???

From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Pia LevensteinsSent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:43 AMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: RE: RE:

Yes I have always worked in an office with terrible noises. One place this lady had to use an electric stapler, OH MY GOD!I also thought I was the only one in the world who got annoyed and lost control at these things.My hubby eats in the other room. There is no other way.Get the BOSE online. I went on a payment plan for a year. $29.99 per month. They are so weird. We are old enough now, me and you, to not care what people think. I let everyone try them on because no one has ever "heard" nothing before. It is very amazing how it works. Hopefully the whole office will buy them!!!!! You will still be able to hear when someone wants you or when your phone rings. This is a real solution!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR NOW!! If we can only figure out how to have them implanted into our ears so no one would know is the next step for the future!!How I found this website for SSS was because I got in trouble for complaining...and here we are. More and more people are finding us every day!!Did you know that gum is illegal in Singapore???We can only dream of something like that here.Order them today and you will have a lot of relief!!!pia>>Reply-To: Soundsensitivity >To: <Soundsensitivity >>Subject: RE: RE: >Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:59:06 -0400>>I will have to try the BOSE headphones. Anything that might help would>be wonderful. I guess most of the other people I work with think I am>nuts for wearing headphones all day, because no one else uses them. I>feel like they think I am being rude, but I'm not.>>I do have problems with telling stories or talking with people.>Everyone tells me I repeat myself over and over. I don't even notice I>am doing it. I am ADD and have always had real problems with my>attention. I get distracted very easy and am really unorganized. I>have 3 sons and all 3 were diagnosed with either ADD or ADHD when they>were younger. My sister and her children are also ADD or ADHD.>>It always amazes me that other people are not bothered by these noises.>I can't begin to imagine what it would like to be "normal". I guess I>would go nuts if I had to ride every day with people who chew gum or>eat. I am not sure how you do it. It is all I can do to be in the car>with my boyfriend if he has gum. I have told him it bothers me, but I>don't think he really realizes just how bad it gets to me. Most of the>time he doesn't chew it in the car, but if he does forget, I try not to>say anything to him. I just sit there and resent him for doing it,>which is not good to do.>>Have you always been in an office environment?>>Hope you have a nice quiet day and a peaceful weekend :-)>>________________________________>>From: Soundsensitivity >[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Pia Levensteins>Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:32 AM>To: Soundsensitivity >Subject: RE: >>>Hi , I am 49 and ditto, ditto, ditto! I invested in the BOSE noise>>canceling headphones and they help a lot!! I really mean it. Without>these I>would have been fired already. In fact, I am on probation at work for>complaining about people talking with their friends all day on the>phone,>people eating ...you know......>I ride the subway and watch all the New Yorkers chomping away with their>gum>and it looks so disgusting. Years ago I wanted to make a video showing>how>ugly people look when they chew gum. There are so many different ways>that>they do it too. I am at my wits end most of the time.>At work, these headphones have been a life saver. I do not have to have>any>music, just the headphones block out so much noise so I can>concentrate!!>Do you have trouble explaining things or telling long stories ???>Some of us have found out that we have that in common as well!!>It has been linked to us having some kind of ADD.>At home I have a white noise machine that sounds like a fan and that>helps a>lot too!!>Hang in there!!>Pia>>> >> >Reply-To: Soundsensitivity > >To: <Soundsensitivity >> >Subject: Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:37:46 -0400> >> >It is so good to find other people with this same problem. I don't> >usually talk about it, since no one understands what it is like, but it> >is something that has such an overwhelming effect on my life. I am 48> >and have dealt with this for as long as I can remember, but it seems to> >be getting worse.> >With me, I can't stand to hear someone eating, chewing gum, clipping> >their nails, swallowing loudly, and the most annoying to me is someone> >typing on a keyboard, which really is a problem, since I work in an> >office area where everyone is typing. (Almost forgot, as a reminder,> >this morning on my way in, I remembered I also can't stand to hear> >someone walking in heels on hard floors or sandals that make a flapping> >sound).> >As for working in an office area, I have to wear headphones all day,> >with the sound up so loud; I know I am doing damage to my hearing. I> >try to get to work early, so I can get my headphones on before anyone> >gets in and starts typing. If I don't have them on and someone around> >me is typing, I start shaking. I will even start crying if I can't get> >them going fast enough. If I am in a meeting and someone is chewing>gum> >or typing on their laptop, I couldn't tell you one thing that was> >discussed, because all I hear is the noise. I feel at times as though>I> >am going to have a breakdown. When I do listen to headphones, it seems> >music doesn't drown out the noise; it has to be people talking, so I> >tape anything and don't actually watch it, but just listen to it all> >day. If I were ever told I couldn't wear the headphones, I would not>be> >able to work. I almost start crying every morning, just knowing I have> >to go in and deal with it.> >I also have to keep a fan going at night to sleep. I can't sleep if it> >is quiet. No other noises help, it has to be a fan or air conditioner.> >I use these year round.> >I have talked about this to numerous family doctors, psychiatrists and> >psychologists, with no help. I don't even think they take this as>being> >a real problem. I have been given anti-depressants, anxiety medication> >and been told to just breathe deep while listening to the noises and I> >will get used to hearing them without them bothering me (yeah right!!!> >They don't have a clue). None of the above has worked for me. The> >medications don't stop the feelings I have when I hear the noises.> >My middle son is 23. He has this same disorder, but typing doesn't> >bother him. I think he is worse than I am with the eating and gum> >chewing. He also works in an office area and someone was clipping>their> >nails. He said it got to him so bad, his face got red and he just>stood> >up and yelled for whoever was clipping their nails to stop and do it at> >home. He said they stopped, but for that moment, he just lost it.> >I don't notice the noises when I make them. I can type, eat, chew gum,> >etc and it doesn't bother me. I don't even notice I am doing it,>unless> >I am chewing gum around my son, and he reminds me real fast.> >I know a lot of people who are unable to work, because they have mental> >disorders, but to my knowledge, I don't think this is even considered a> >true mental disorder, and yet it is hard for me to imagine anyone's> >nerves being as bad as ours, when we hear these noises.> >I want to thank all of you for allowing me to talk about this, and have> >someone who understands what I live with daily. It almost makes it a> >little easier to deal with. I hope someday there will be a cure for> >this, but I haven't found anything that helps.> >> >> > Pendleton> >Eastman Chemical Company> >Business Specialist> >Tel: > >Email: tmpendleton@...> >> >> >>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

I am not sure if my actions contributed to my middle son having this same issue? Noises do not bother my oldest or youngest sons the same way. I do know that they both think people who eat with their mouths open, or chew gum loudly, have bad manners. They had to listen to me tell them all their lives not to chew loud. My middle son has a personality most like mine, so I am not sure if it is environmental or generic??? My son says it the one thing he wishes he had never "gotten" from me.

With ADD, I am not sure if I could concentrate on a word or thought for 20 minutes. With my attention span, I would do good to make it 20 seconds, but it is something to try. Who knows, it might even help the ADD.

From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of KeohaneSent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:21 AMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re:

,

I feel for you. I know what a horrible feeling this is. You have touched on one of my biggest fears, my kids. I believe that our problems stems from acute hearing couple with a conditioned response. In other words, we have over time wired the sounds directly into our response (anger, frustration, sadness). I believe our behavior can program our kids to the same fate.

When I was in college a confided in friend how much sniffing bothered me. He laughed and thought I was nuts. But it put the "bug in his ear". By the end of the semester he was as bad as me and could not stand the sound any longer. He actually stopped speaking to me for a while because he was so angry that I started him down this path.

I believe this is treatable by breaking the conditioned response but we have to jump on it quickly. The reason it gets worse as we get older is because the conditioning becomes more entrenched and we develop a more elaborate system of coping.

In the end there is no physical damage being done to us by these noises (unlike other conditions). These are just vibrations in the air. It is the response we allow these vibrations to have in our minds that we need to stop. I wish I had a workbook for this!

As I stated in a previous mail, meditation was the only thing that seemed to make a difference. The practice every day (20 minutes) of focusing on a word or thought and returning focus every time I was distracted generated results. It is not easy, but nothing that works ever is.

If others on this thread have tried techniques that helped I would love to hear them.

We can beat this!

Mike

"Pendleton, " wrote:

It is so good to find other people with this same problem. I don'tusually talk about it, since no one understands what it is like, but itis something that has such an overwhelming effect on my life. I am 48and have dealt with this for as long as I can remember, but it seems tobe getting worse.With me, I can't stand to hear someone eating, chewing gum, clippingtheir nails, swallowing loudly, and the most annoying to me is someonetyping on a keyboard, which really is a problem, since I work in anoffice area where everyone is typing. (Almost forgot, as a reminder,this morning on my way in, I remembered I also can't stand to hearsomeone walking in heels on hard floors or sandals that make a flappingsound). As for working in an office area, I have to wear headphones all day,with the sound up so loud; I know I am doing damage to my hearing. Itry to get to work early, so I can get my headphones on before anyonegets in and starts typing. If I don't have them on and someone aroundme is typing, I start shaking. I will even start crying if I can't getthem going fast enough. If I am in a meeting and someone is chewing gumor typing on their laptop, I couldn't tell you one thing that wasdiscussed, because all I hear is the noise. I feel at times as though Iam going to have a breakdown. When I do listen to headphones, it seemsmusic doesn't drown out the noise; it has to be people talking, so Itape anything and don't actually watch it, but just listen to it allday. If I were ever told I couldn't wear the headphones, I would not beable to work. I almost start crying every morning, just knowing I haveto go in and deal with it.I also have to keep a fan going at night to sleep. I can't sleep if itis quiet. No other noises help, it has to be a fan or air conditioner.I use these year round.I have talked about this to numerous family doctors, psychiatrists andpsychologists, with no help. I don't even think they take this as beinga real problem. I have been given anti-depressants, anxiety medicationand been told to just breathe deep while listening to the noises and Iwill get used to hearing them without them bothering me (yeah right!!!They don't have a clue). None of the above has worked for me. Themedications don't stop the feelings I have when I hear the noises. My middle son is 23. He has this same disorder, but typing doesn'tbother him. I think he is worse than I am with the eating and gumchewing. He also works in an office area and someone was clipping theirnails. He said it got to him so bad, his face got red and he just stoodup and yelled for whoever was clipping their nails to stop and do it athome. He said they stopped, but for that moment, he just lost it.I don't notice the noises when I make them. I can type, eat, chew gum,etc and it doesn't bother me. I don't even notice I am doing it, unlessI am chewing gum around my son, and he reminds me real fast.I know a lot of people who are unable to work, because they have mentaldisorders, but to my knowledge, I don't think this is even considered atrue mental disorder, and yet it is hard for me to imagine anyone'snerves being as bad as ours, when we hear these noises. I want to thank all of you for allowing me to talk about this, and havesomeone who understands what I live with daily. It almost makes it alittle easier to deal with. I hope someday there will be a cure forthis, but I haven't found anything that helps. PendletonEastman Chemical CompanyBusiness SpecialistTel: Email: tmpendleton@...

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[Guest guest]

Do you have trouble explaining things or telling long stories ???

Some of us have found out that we have that in common as well!!

It has been linked to us having some kind of ADD.

Hang in there!!

Pia

Pia,

Since I am new to this group, and have not had time to read all the past posts,

can someone let me know what some of the other similarities are? I know I am

ADD, and that I repeat myself when telling a story, but are there other

similarities?

[Guest guest]

I know one thing that's similar is many of us were prone to strep throat as kids.On 5/20/06, Pendleton, <

tmpendleton@...> wrote:Do you have trouble explaining things or telling long stories ???

Some of us have found out that we have that in common as well!!It has been linked to us having some kind of ADD.Hang in there!!PiaPia,Since I am new to this group, and have not had time to read all the past posts, can someone let me know what some of the other similarities are? I know I am ADD, and that I repeat myself when telling a story, but are there other similarities?

[Guest guest]

I never realy had strep throat. My youngest son has had strep a lot, but my

middle son, who has this same problem hasn't had strep much.

The one thing I have noticed, when looking at the past posts, is that other

group members will say that their Dad or Mother bothered them with the noises.

My mom (and I loved her so much)used cough drops, as long as I can remember.

She would move them around in her mouth and make awful sounds. I hated to hear

her make the sounds when she used them. I know this sounds terrible, but I had

to put ear plugs in my ears, just to be with her before she passed away. I

truley loved my mom, but I couldn't handle the noise of the cough drops. As

long as I can remember, there was a faamily member that made sounds I can't deal

with. Is this something anyone else has experienced??

Re: RE:

I know one thing that's similar is many of us were prone to strep throat as

kids.

>

>

> Do you have trouble explaining things or telling long stories ???

> Some of us have found out that we have that in common as well!!

> It has been linked to us having some kind of ADD.

>

> Hang in there!!

> Pia

>

>

> Pia,

>

> Since I am new to this group, and have not had time to read all the past

> posts, can someone let me know what some of the other similarities are? I

> know I am ADD, and that I repeat myself when telling a story, but are there

> other similarities?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

My dad used to make similar sounds that a cough drop makes with his

false teeth. The clacking sound drove me nuts. No it doesn't sound

terrible to wear ear plugs. When my dad was alive I never thought to

use them. My mother makes silverware sounds, and boy does she go to

town with it, its like some sort of OCD thing, and she talks loud too

because SHE can't hear. She also has a weird breathing thing that she

does that irritates the heck out of me. I wear earplugs around her

without a shred of guilt. I have asked a hundred times but it does no

good. It's like she finds delight in her repetiveness and the fact

that it tortures me.

> >

> >

> > Do you have trouble explaining things or telling long stories ???

> > Some of us have found out that we have that in common as well!!

> > It has been linked to us having some kind of ADD.

> >

> > Hang in there!!

> > Pia

> >

> >

> > Pia,

> >

> > Since I am new to this group, and have not had time to read all

the past

> > posts, can someone let me know what some of the other similarities

are? I

> > know I am ADD, and that I repeat myself when telling a story, but

are there

> > other similarities?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

When the false teeth thing was mentioned by another member on here it

made me think of my grandmas boyfriend. He was really old and ate

really slowly and when he chewed his food his false teeth would clink

together and make the most horrible noise ever. It took him forever

to finish! I lived with my grandma for a few years as a child and at

her house we would always sit at the table until everyone was

finished and then clean off the table to play the board game

aggrivation (ironically enough). By the time Joe was done eating I

would be such a wreck and would be totally uptight and hateful acting

by the time we would start playing and it would carry on throughout

playing the game. My grandmother always thought my attitutde was due

to being a sore loser! LOL! I let her think that. I could never tell

her it was really because of Joe's teeth. She had a VERY low

tolerance for my " outbursts " and was also the type that would seem to

do it more once she found out that someone was bothered by

something. Her habits that bothered me included: feet rubbing,(with

the dry-old-lady-foot scratching sound), new dollar bill rubbing, dry

thumb rubbing against index finger at a furious pace, which I think

was habit from years of crocheting, the actual crocheting itself, arm

of the chair or sofa rubbing, constant nibbling of some imaginary

piece of food in her mouth and many more. Her boyfriend Joe was so

nice and sweet that I couldn't be free enough to voice my hatred

about his teeth clanking. When he passed away The first thing that

came to my mind was that I'd never have to endure another LOOOOOONG

dinner of total panic and rage with him again. I really did like him

and I was upset with myself for thinking that way about his death.

[Guest guest]

, 20 seconds is fine for a first attempt. Make it a goal to be 5 minutes by the end of the month.....10 minutes in 2 months....etc.. Point is, a year from now will be here sooner or later and you can either have a years worth of attempts under your belt or not. That is thought that helped me get started. I would suggest picking up the "Meditation for Dummies" book. I read it and it is a nice primer. Keep us posted on how it goes for you. Mike"Pendleton, " wrote: I am not sure if my actions contributed to my middle son having

this same issue? Noises do not bother my oldest or youngest sons the same way. I do know that they both think people who eat with their mouths open, or chew gum loudly, have bad manners. They had to listen to me tell them all their lives not to chew loud. My middle son has a personality most like mine, so I am not sure if it is environmental or generic??? My son says it the one thing he wishes he had never "gotten" from me. With ADD, I am not sure if I could concentrate on a word or thought for 20 minutes. With my attention span, I would do good to make it 20 seconds, but it is something to try. Who knows, it might even help the ADD. From: Soundsensitivity [mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of KeohaneSent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:21 AMTo: Soundsensitivity Subject: Re: , I feel for you. I know what a horrible feeling this is. You have touched on one of my biggest fears, my kids. I believe that our problems stems from acute hearing couple with a conditioned response. In other words, we have over time wired the sounds directly into our response (anger, frustration, sadness). I believe our behavior can program our kids to the same fate. When I was in college a confided in friend how much sniffing bothered me. He laughed and thought I was nuts. But it put the "bug in his ear".

By the end of the semester he was as bad as me and could not stand the sound any longer. He actually stopped speaking to me for a while because he was so angry that I started him down this path. I believe this is treatable by breaking the conditioned response but we have to jump on it quickly. The reason it gets worse as we get older is because the conditioning becomes more entrenched and we develop a more elaborate system of coping. In the end there is no physical damage being done to us by these noises (unlike other conditions). These are just vibrations in the air. It is the response we allow these vibrations to have in our minds that we need to stop. I wish I had a workbook for this! As I stated in a previous mail, meditation was the only thing that seemed to make a difference. The practice every day (20 minutes) of focusing on a word or thought and returning focus

every time I was distracted generated results. It is not easy, but nothing that works ever is. If others on this thread have tried techniques that helped I would love to hear them. We can beat this! Mike "Pendleton, " wrote: It is so good to find other people with this same problem. I don'tusually talk about it, since no one understands what it is like, but itis something that has such an overwhelming effect on my life. I am 48and have dealt with this for as long as I can remember, but it seems tobe getting worse.With me, I can't stand to hear someone eating, chewing gum, clippingtheir nails, swallowing loudly, and the most annoying to me is someonetyping on a

keyboard, which really is a problem, since I work in anoffice area where everyone is typing. (Almost forgot, as a reminder,this morning on my way in, I remembered I also can't stand to hearsomeone walking in heels on hard floors or sandals that make a flappingsound). As for working in an office area, I have to wear headphones all day,with the sound up so loud; I know I am doing damage to my hearing. Itry to get to work early, so I can get my headphones on before anyonegets in and starts typing. If I don't have them on and someone aroundme is typing, I start shaking. I will even start crying if I can't getthem going fast enough. If I am in a meeting and someone is chewing gumor typing on their laptop, I couldn't tell you one thing that wasdiscussed, because all I hear is the noise. I feel at times as though Iam going to have a breakdown. When I do listen to headphones, it

seemsmusic doesn't drown out the noise; it has to be people talking, so Itape anything and don't actually watch it, but just listen to it allday. If I were ever told I couldn't wear the headphones, I would not beable to work. I almost start crying every morning, just knowing I haveto go in and deal with it.I also have to keep a fan going at night to sleep. I can't sleep if itis quiet. No other noises help, it has to be a fan or air conditioner.I use these year round.I have talked about this to numerous family doctors, psychiatrists andpsychologists, with no help. I don't even think they take this as beinga real problem. I have been given anti-depressants, anxiety medicationand been told to just breathe deep while listening to the noises and Iwill get used to hearing them without them bothering me (yeah right!!!They don't have a clue). None of the above has worked for me.

Themedications don't stop the feelings I have when I hear the noises. My middle son is 23. He has this same disorder, but typing doesn'tbother him. I think he is worse than I am with the eating and gumchewing. He also works in an office area and someone was clipping theirnails. He said it got to him so bad, his face got red and he just stoodup and yelled for whoever was clipping their nails to stop and do it athome. He said they stopped, but for that moment, he just lost it.I don't notice the noises when I make them. I can type, eat, chew gum,etc and it doesn't bother me. I don't even notice I am doing it, unlessI am chewing gum around my son, and he reminds me real fast.I know a lot of people who are unable to work, because they have mentaldisorders, but to my knowledge, I don't think this is even considered atrue mental disorder, and yet it is hard for me to imagine

anyone'snerves being as bad as ours, when we hear these noises. I want to thank all of you for allowing me to talk about this, and havesomeone who understands what I live with daily. It almost makes it alittle easier to deal with. I hope someday there will be a cure forthis, but I haven't found anything that helps. PendletonEastman Chemical CompanyBusiness SpecialistTel: Email: tmpendleton@... Ring'em or ping'em. Make PC-to-phone calls as low as 1¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.

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[Guest guest]

Funny about the " legal keyboards!! "

You can go to a Sharper Image store and try some on. You can still hear but

it changes the way you hear things. Hard to explain!

Pia

>

>Reply-To: Soundsensitivity

>To: <Soundsensitivity >

>Subject: RE: RE:

>Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 11:15:25 -0400

>

>Actually, I did know gum is illegal in Singapore. I was there for 4

>weeks near the end of 2004, on a work related trip. This may sound

>crazy, but it drove me nuts not being able to chew gum there. I love to

>chew it, just can't stand to hear someone else do it. I wonder how many

>people out there that I bother, and don't realize I am doing it?? I had

>to buy a portable radio (with headphones) the first day there because of

>the typing in the office. Unfortunately, keyboards are legal, and I

>think they typed faster and louder than everyone in this office does:-).

>

>I have worked for the same company for 30 years. I have only worked

>office work for the past 5 years. I did work in the plant area, driving

>a fork truck for 25 years, so I didn't have to deal with these noises.

>If someone was eating loudly in the break shack, I just walked out into

>the warehouse until they were done. As soon as I started office work, I

>had to use the headphones. This was when I also had to start seeing

>doctors, to see if they could help.

>

>My boyfriend and I eat in the living room now (with the TV turned up).

>We have been together for around 7 years, and for the first year or so,

>it did not bother me at all that he chewed gum or ate loud. I always

>thought that was very odd. If this is something that is related to the

>noise itself, why did it not bother me at all when we were first

>together, but now it drives me crazy??? Also, if I get really, really

>involved in a project, such as working on a very detailed spreadsheet,

>where I have to really concentrate hard, I don't hear the noises. I

>have also thought that is strange.

>

>When you are wearing the headphones, does it really drown out the other

>people typing???

>

>________________________________

>

>From: Soundsensitivity

>[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Pia Levensteins

>Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 10:43 AM

>To: Soundsensitivity

>Subject: RE: RE:

>

>

>Yes I have always worked in an office with terrible noises. One place

>this

>lady had to use an electric stapler, OH MY GOD!

>I also thought I was the only one in the world who got annoyed and lost

>control at these things.

>My hubby eats in the other room. There is no other way.

>Get the BOSE online. I went on a payment plan for a year. $29.99 per

>month.

>They are so weird. We are old enough now, me and you, to not care what

>people think. I let everyone try them on because no one has ever " heard "

>

>nothing before. It is very amazing how it works. Hopefully the whole

>office

>will buy them!!!!! You will still be able to hear when someone wants you

>or

>when your phone rings. This is a real solution!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR NOW!! If

>we

>can only figure out how to have them implanted into our ears so no one

>would

>know is the next step for the future!!

>How I found this website for SSS was because I got in trouble for

>complaining...and here we are. More and more people are finding us every

>

>day!!

>Did you know that gum is illegal in Singapore???

>We can only dream of something like that here.

>Order them today and you will have a lot of relief!!!

>pia

>

>

> >

> >Reply-To: Soundsensitivity

> >To: <Soundsensitivity >

> >Subject: RE: RE:

> >Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:59:06 -0400

> >

> >I will have to try the BOSE headphones. Anything that might help would

> >be wonderful. I guess most of the other people I work with think I am

> >nuts for wearing headphones all day, because no one else uses them. I

> >feel like they think I am being rude, but I'm not.

> >

> >I do have problems with telling stories or talking with people.

> >Everyone tells me I repeat myself over and over. I don't even notice I

> >am doing it. I am ADD and have always had real problems with my

> >attention. I get distracted very easy and am really unorganized. I

> >have 3 sons and all 3 were diagnosed with either ADD or ADHD when they

> >were younger. My sister and her children are also ADD or ADHD.

> >

> >It always amazes me that other people are not bothered by these noises.

> >I can't begin to imagine what it would like to be " normal " . I guess I

> >would go nuts if I had to ride every day with people who chew gum or

> >eat. I am not sure how you do it. It is all I can do to be in the car

> >with my boyfriend if he has gum. I have told him it bothers me, but I

> >don't think he really realizes just how bad it gets to me. Most of the

> >time he doesn't chew it in the car, but if he does forget, I try not to

> >say anything to him. I just sit there and resent him for doing it,

> >which is not good to do.

> >

> >Have you always been in an office environment?

> >

> >Hope you have a nice quiet day and a peaceful weekend :-)

> >

> >________________________________

> >

> >From: Soundsensitivity

> >[mailto:Soundsensitivity ] On Behalf Of Pia Levensteins

> >Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:32 AM

> >To: Soundsensitivity

> >Subject: RE:

> >

> >

> >Hi , I am 49 and ditto, ditto, ditto! I invested in the BOSE

>noise

> >

> >canceling headphones and they help a lot!! I really mean it. Without

> >these I

> >would have been fired already. In fact, I am on probation at work for

> >complaining about people talking with their friends all day on the

> >phone,

> >people eating ...you know......

> >I ride the subway and watch all the New Yorkers chomping away with

>their

> >gum

> >and it looks so disgusting. Years ago I wanted to make a video showing

> >how

> >ugly people look when they chew gum. There are so many different ways

> >that

> >they do it too. I am at my wits end most of the time.

> >At work, these headphones have been a life saver. I do not have to have

> >any

> >music, just the headphones block out so much noise so I can

> >concentrate!!

> >Do you have trouble explaining things or telling long stories ???

> >Some of us have found out that we have that in common as well!!

> >It has been linked to us having some kind of ADD.

> >At home I have a white noise machine that sounds like a fan and that

> >helps a

> >lot too!!

> >Hang in there!!

> >Pia

> >

> >

> > >

> > >Reply-To: Soundsensitivity

> > >To: <Soundsensitivity >

> > >Subject: Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:37:46 -0400

> > >

> > >It is so good to find other people with this same problem. I don't

> > >usually talk about it, since no one understands what it is like, but

>it

> > >is something that has such an overwhelming effect on my life. I am

>48

> > >and have dealt with this for as long as I can remember, but it seems

>to

> > >be getting worse.

> > >With me, I can't stand to hear someone eating, chewing gum, clipping

> > >their nails, swallowing loudly, and the most annoying to me is

>someone

> > >typing on a keyboard, which really is a problem, since I work in an

> > >office area where everyone is typing. (Almost forgot, as a reminder,

> > >this morning on my way in, I remembered I also can't stand to hear

> > >someone walking in heels on hard floors or sandals that make a

>flapping

> > >sound).

> > >As for working in an office area, I have to wear headphones all day,

> > >with the sound up so loud; I know I am doing damage to my hearing. I

> > >try to get to work early, so I can get my headphones on before anyone

> > >gets in and starts typing. If I don't have them on and someone

>around

> > >me is typing, I start shaking. I will even start crying if I can't

>get

> > >them going fast enough. If I am in a meeting and someone is chewing

> >gum

> > >or typing on their laptop, I couldn't tell you one thing that was

> > >discussed, because all I hear is the noise. I feel at times as

>though

> >I

> > >am going to have a breakdown. When I do listen to headphones, it

>seems

> > >music doesn't drown out the noise; it has to be people talking, so I

> > >tape anything and don't actually watch it, but just listen to it all

> > >day. If I were ever told I couldn't wear the headphones, I would not

> >be

> > >able to work. I almost start crying every morning, just knowing I

>have

> > >to go in and deal with it.

> > >I also have to keep a fan going at night to sleep. I can't sleep if

>it

> > >is quiet. No other noises help, it has to be a fan or air

>conditioner.

> > >I use these year round.

> > >I have talked about this to numerous family doctors, psychiatrists

>and

> > >psychologists, with no help. I don't even think they take this as

> >being

> > >a real problem. I have been given anti-depressants, anxiety

>medication

> > >and been told to just breathe deep while listening to the noises and

>I

> > >will get used to hearing them without them bothering me (yeah

>right!!!

> > >They don't have a clue). None of the above has worked for me. The

> > >medications don't stop the feelings I have when I hear the noises.

> > >My middle son is 23. He has this same disorder, but typing doesn't

> > >bother him. I think he is worse than I am with the eating and gum

> > >chewing. He also works in an office area and someone was clipping

> >their

> > >nails. He said it got to him so bad, his face got red and he just

> >stood

> > >up and yelled for whoever was clipping their nails to stop and do it

>at

> > >home. He said they stopped, but for that moment, he just lost it.

> > >I don't notice the noises when I make them. I can type, eat, chew

>gum,

> > >etc and it doesn't bother me. I don't even notice I am doing it,

> >unless

> > >I am chewing gum around my son, and he reminds me real fast.

> > >I know a lot of people who are unable to work, because they have

>mental

> > >disorders, but to my knowledge, I don't think this is even considered

>a

> > >true mental disorder, and yet it is hard for me to imagine anyone's

> > >nerves being as bad as ours, when we hear these noises.

> > >I want to thank all of you for allowing me to talk about this, and

>have

> > >someone who understands what I live with daily. It almost makes it a

> > >little easier to deal with. I hope someday there will be a cure for

> > >this, but I haven't found anything that helps.

> > >

> > >

> > > Pendleton

> > >Eastman Chemical Company

> > >Business Specialist

> > >Tel:

> > >Email: tmpendleton@...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >