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anne;

I know there is a % of foreigners which can be done, but as far as my

institution I do collect money upfront which I work with our Managed Care

department for the amount. This amount depends on the transplant.

Karla Christensen

> RE: Re:

>

> Good Morning Everyone

>

> Since our web site is up we have been getting many Emails asking about

> transplants for foreigners from several different countries. Does anyone

> know the UNOS policy on this?

>

> Also do your centers collect $ up front prior to listing for the full

> amount?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

> >>> LAguiar@... 02/09/01 12:06PM >>>

> hi suellen... welcome to our shared nightmare.

> [(Aguiar, )] Great way of putting it, Rusty! :-)

>

> Suellen, I can tell you that @ my previous facility (I've been here

> for

> just under a year), we had decided when we started the living donor lung &

> pedi liver programs (1995) to mimic the existing Medicare policies for

> kidney tx. We set up both a living lung & living liver donor cost center

> @

> the hospital, accrued the donor charges there, & then @ the time the

> recipient was d/c from the tx admit, the final total for the donor was

> added

> to the recipient's inpt bill as " organ acquisition " . (Three guesses who

> got to do all this, btw!) You also need to keep in mind that the OPO up

> here handles CAD charges differently that most other OPO's in the

> country-this was another factor in our decision to set things up the way

> we

> did. We continued to assume the costs of the donor's post-op visits under

> the donor cost center. Thankfully, we had never run into a situation

> where

> the donor needed to be re-admitted (though curiously, it did happen on the

> renal side!). At the time I left, the ctr was gearing up to get started

> w/the adult-adult program & I believe the plan had been to continue in the

> manner I described w/this population. However, they never did back-fill

> my

> position & I've heard the first adult-adult LRD liver they did after I

> left

> was denied. (Coincidence?) I do know of another ctr who seeks approval

> for

> each individual piece of the donor testing from the recipient's ins &

> bills

> each approved test to the recipient's ins-I just am not sure of their

> payor

> mix or their success rate.

>

> Bottom line is that, as Rusty said, this is our collective nightmare

> &

> everyone has a different method of dealing with it depending on your

> individual center culture. This is one of the reasons we'll be looking

> for

> people @ the TFCA mtg in SLC willing to work on a subcommittee to petition

> HCFA to start covering this as well as issuing guidelines for the donor

> reimbursement & billing pieces.

>

> J. Aguiar

> Beth Israel Deaconess, Boston

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Good Morning Everyone

Since our web site is up we have been getting many Emails asking about

transplants for foreigners from several different countries. Does anyone know

the UNOS policy on this?

Also do your centers collect $ up front prior to listing for the full amount?

Thanks

>>> LAguiar@... 02/09/01 12:06PM >>>

hi suellen... welcome to our shared nightmare.

[(Aguiar, )] Great way of putting it, Rusty! :-)

Suellen, I can tell you that @ my previous facility (I've been here for

just under a year), we had decided when we started the living donor lung &

pedi liver programs (1995) to mimic the existing Medicare policies for

kidney tx. We set up both a living lung & living liver donor cost center @

the hospital, accrued the donor charges there, & then @ the time the

recipient was d/c from the tx admit, the final total for the donor was added

to the recipient's inpt bill as " organ acquisition " . (Three guesses who

got to do all this, btw!) You also need to keep in mind that the OPO up

here handles CAD charges differently that most other OPO's in the

country-this was another factor in our decision to set things up the way we

did. We continued to assume the costs of the donor's post-op visits under

the donor cost center. Thankfully, we had never run into a situation where

the donor needed to be re-admitted (though curiously, it did happen on the

renal side!). At the time I left, the ctr was gearing up to get started

w/the adult-adult program & I believe the plan had been to continue in the

manner I described w/this population. However, they never did back-fill my

position & I've heard the first adult-adult LRD liver they did after I left

was denied. (Coincidence?) I do know of another ctr who seeks approval for

each individual piece of the donor testing from the recipient's ins & bills

each approved test to the recipient's ins-I just am not sure of their payor

mix or their success rate.

Bottom line is that, as Rusty said, this is our collective nightmare &

everyone has a different method of dealing with it depending on your

individual center culture. This is one of the reasons we'll be looking for

people @ the TFCA mtg in SLC willing to work on a subcommittee to petition

HCFA to start covering this as well as issuing guidelines for the donor

reimbursement & billing pieces.

J. Aguiar

Beth Israel Deaconess, Boston

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good morning julie... I dont know about the unos policy. however, we do try and

collect for the eval and the txp up front. even doing that though we have

gotten burned because of the fact that you are collecting based on an

estimate....and on occassion the costs wayyyyy exceed the estimate. this

happened to us and we got burned for a fairly large amt of money... rusty

Rusty Ward

Financial Coordinator Liver Transplant Program

haroldw@...

>>> jbucche@... 02/13 10:50 AM >>>

Good Morning Everyone

Since our web site is up we have been getting many Emails asking about

transplants for foreigners from several different countries. Does anyone know

the UNOS policy on this?

Also do your centers collect $ up front prior to listing for the full amount?

Thanks

>>> LAguiar@... 02/09/01 12:06PM >>>

hi suellen... welcome to our shared nightmare.

[(Aguiar, )] Great way of putting it, Rusty! :-)

Suellen, I can tell you that @ my previous facility (I've been here for

just under a year), we had decided when we started the living donor lung &

pedi liver programs (1995) to mimic the existing Medicare policies for

kidney tx. We set up both a living lung & living liver donor cost center @

the hospital, accrued the donor charges there, & then @ the time the

recipient was d/c from the tx admit, the final total for the donor was added

to the recipient's inpt bill as " organ acquisition " . (Three guesses who

got to do all this, btw!) You also need to keep in mind that the OPO up

here handles CAD charges differently that most other OPO's in the

country-this was another factor in our decision to set things up the way we

did. We continued to assume the costs of the donor's post-op visits under

the donor cost center. Thankfully, we had never run into a situation where

the donor needed to be re-admitted (though curiously, it did happen on the

renal side!). At the time I left, the ctr was gearing up to get started

w/the adult-adult program & I believe the plan had been to continue in the

manner I described w/this population. However, they never did back-fill my

position & I've heard the first adult-adult LRD liver they did after I left

was denied. (Coincidence?) I do know of another ctr who seeks approval for

each individual piece of the donor testing from the recipient's ins & bills

each approved test to the recipient's ins-I just am not sure of their payor

mix or their success rate.

Bottom line is that, as Rusty said, this is our collective nightmare &

everyone has a different method of dealing with it depending on your

individual center culture. This is one of the reasons we'll be looking for

people @ the TFCA mtg in SLC willing to work on a subcommittee to petition

HCFA to start covering this as well as issuing guidelines for the donor

reimbursement & billing pieces.

J. Aguiar

Beth Israel Deaconess, Boston

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>>> kchriste@... 02/13/01 10:48AM >>>

anne;

I know there is a % of foreigners which can be done, but as far as my

institution I do collect money upfront which I work with our Managed Care

department for the amount. This amount depends on the transplant.

Karla Christensen

> RE: Re:

>

> Good Morning Everyone

>

> Since our web site is up we have been getting many Emails asking about

> transplants for foreigners from several different countries. Does anyone

> know the UNOS policy on this?

>

> Also do your centers collect $ up front prior to listing for the full

> amount?

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

> >>> LAguiar@... 02/09/01 12:06PM >>>

> hi suellen... welcome to our shared nightmare.

> [(Aguiar, )] Great way of putting it, Rusty! :-)

>

> Suellen, I can tell you that @ my previous facility (I've been here

> for

> just under a year), we had decided when we started the living donor lung &

> pedi liver programs (1995) to mimic the existing Medicare policies for

> kidney tx. We set up both a living lung & living liver donor cost center

> @

> the hospital, accrued the donor charges there, & then @ the time the

> recipient was d/c from the tx admit, the final total for the donor was

> added

> to the recipient's inpt bill as " organ acquisition " . (Three guesses who

> got to do all this, btw!) You also need to keep in mind that the OPO up

> here handles CAD charges differently that most other OPO's in the

> country-this was another factor in our decision to set things up the way

> we

> did. We continued to assume the costs of the donor's post-op visits under

> the donor cost center. Thankfully, we had never run into a situation

> where

> the donor needed to be re-admitted (though curiously, it did happen on the

> renal side!). At the time I left, the ctr was gearing up to get started

> w/the adult-adult program & I believe the plan had been to continue in the

> manner I described w/this population. However, they never did back-fill

> my

> position & I've heard the first adult-adult LRD liver they did after I

> left

> was denied. (Coincidence?) I do know of another ctr who seeks approval

> for

> each individual piece of the donor testing from the recipient's ins &

> bills

> each approved test to the recipient's ins-I just am not sure of their

> payor

> mix or their success rate.

>

> Bottom line is that, as Rusty said, this is our collective nightmare

> &

> everyone has a different method of dealing with it depending on your

> individual center culture. This is one of the reasons we'll be looking

> for

> people @ the TFCA mtg in SLC willing to work on a subcommittee to petition

> HCFA to start covering this as well as issuing guidelines for the donor

> reimbursement & billing pieces.

>

> J. Aguiar

> Beth Israel Deaconess, Boston

>

>

>

>

>

>

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If it's for pre-tx evaluation or the transplant admission we pay it and then

put it thru Kidney Acquisition (on the cost report). If it's for the

professional fees for the admit, we have the provider bill the recipient's

Medicare directly (it's covered thru Part B)

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bill when Medicare is the secondary payor for the recipient?

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Good morning,

I attended only the first day of the UNOS Management Forum. That Monday a

question was posed to CMS concerning illegal immigrants and funding

transplant. I believe we were told this issue would be discussed later in

the week. Was this topic reviewed? I now have 3 patients who have private

insurance but who are in this country illegally. Have any of you

experienced this situation and how did you resolve it? My concern is that

they will not qualify for Medicare and if they loose their private

insurance post transplant......... not to mention donor issues. Should I

visit my local INS office for further info? Thanks to all--Happy Tuesday!

Sullivan

University of California,

Medical Center

Sacramento, CA

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n Melton will be out of the office June 10-14 and will return on

Monday, June 17. For urgent matters, please contact the Transplant

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Good afternoon,

We have not had may illegal immigrants, but have had equal problems with

legal and students.

The person must be entitled to medicare, this is a problem most have not

worked enough quarters for this. Students who are in the states on a

student visa did not qualify for medicare and no state programs because they

were not legal residents of the state of PA.

We had one pt who followed his Nephrologist from one of the Carribean islands,

he qualified for state aid for dialysis, not for medicare and medicaid

would not cover the transplant because he came here for medical treatment.

We have the patient sign paperwork specifically geared to there particular

problem that they are responsible for the medications post transplant.

Although even if they have money set a side for a specific period of time, they

seem to eventually run into problems. These are pts here legally, when

not a US citizen they are limited to help they can receive. At least this is

what we found at this facility.

M1@...

>>> Regina.Sullivan@... 06/11/02 11:27AM >>>

Good morning,

I attended only the first day of the UNOS Management Forum. That Monday a

question was posed to CMS concerning illegal immigrants and funding

transplant. I believe we were told this issue would be discussed later in

the week. Was this topic reviewed? I now have 3 patients who have private

insurance but who are in this country illegally. Have any of you

experienced this situation and how did you resolve it? My concern is that

they will not qualify for Medicare and if they loose their private

insurance post transplant......... not to mention donor issues. Should I

visit my local INS office for further info? Thanks to all--Happy Tuesday!

Sullivan

University of California,

Medical Center

Sacramento, CA

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Wow,

It's been a while,how are you? I can give you information on the

staffing. Would it be easier to call me so we can discuss exactly what you

need. My direct line is .

" Mullen,

Estelle " To:

TxFinancialCoordinators

<EMullen@Lifes cc:

pan.Org> Subject:

02/07/03 12:58

PM

Please respond

to

TxFinancialCoo

rdinators

I don't know if you remember me but I met you at one of the conferences.

I am meeting on Monday with the Director of Surgery to discuss a new

Transplant Administrator position that we are recruiting for.

But what I am really looking for is an organizational chart of your

transplant department. If not, can you just give me a list of the staff

that your transplant department has?

This would be very helpful for this meeting. I am trying to bring the

seperate transplant programs closer together.

thanks

Estelle Mullen, MHA

Director, Cardiovascular Services

Phone:

Fax:

Email: emullen@...

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Check with your medicare intermediary,

is your facility trying to become a medicare certified facility?

Rita McCann

Administrative Financial Coordinator

Lankenau Hospital

Good

Morning All....

We have

a patient in our facility who is Medicare primary and Keystone Mercy

secondary . She is in desperate need of a transplant like now. However we

are not a Medicare certified facility. She loves the doctors here and refuses

to go to Medicare certified one. She was hoping we would be certified

before it is to late. Which it is now.

We have

gotten the hospital to absorb any fees associated with the transplant. Now..

what I need to know is will Medicare pay for her immunosuppressant after the

surgery?. I am getting conflicting information on the subject.

If

anyone has information? I would greatly appreciate

it.

Barbara

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Yes they are. The paperwork has already been filed. We are just playing the waiting game now.

Barbara A. Brown

Financial Coordinator

Liver, Biliary and Pancreas Center at Hahnemann

Drexel University College of Medicine

5th Floor Feinstein

MS 1001

Phila, PA 19102

Phone:

Fax

email: bab35@...

Good Morning All....

We have a patient in our facility who is Medicare primary and Keystone Mercy secondary . She is in desperate need of a transplant like now. However we are not a Medicare certified facility. She loves the doctors here and refuses to go to Medicare certified one. She was hoping we would be certified before it is to late. Which it is now.

We have gotten the hospital to absorb any fees associated with the transplant. Now.. what I need to know is will Medicare pay for her immunosuppressant after the surgery?. I am getting conflicting information on the subject.

If anyone has information? I would greatly appreciate it.

Barbara

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Barbara,

I am still working on an answer for you.

Rita McCann

Lankenau Hospital

Good

Morning All....

We have

a patient in our facility who is Medicare primary and Keystone Mercy

secondary . She is in desperate need of a transplant like now. However we

are not a Medicare certified facility. She loves the doctors here and refuses

to go to Medicare certified one. She was hoping we would be certified

before it is to late. Which it is now.

We have

gotten the hospital to absorb any fees associated with the transplant. Now..

what I need to know is will Medicare pay for her immunosuppressant after the

surgery?. I am getting conflicting information on the subject.

If

anyone has information? I would greatly appreciate

it.

Barbara

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Thanks,

Barbara A. Brown

Financial Coordinator

Liver, Biliary and Pancreas Center at Hahnemann

Drexel University College of Medicine

5th Floor Feinstein

MS 1001

Phila, PA 19102

Phone:

Fax

email: bab35@...

Good Morning All....

We have a patient in our facility who is Medicare primary and Keystone Mercy secondary . She is in desperate need of a transplant like now. However we are not a Medicare certified facility. She loves the doctors here and refuses to go to Medicare certified one. She was hoping we would be certified before it is to late. Which it is now.

We have gotten the hospital to absorb any fees associated with the transplant. Now.. what I need to know is will Medicare pay for her immunosuppressant after the surgery?. I am getting conflicting information on the subject.

If anyone has information? I would greatly appreciate it.

Barbara

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Is their any way to be a part of the group but to NOT receive all of the conversation emails? It is just getting pretty overwhelming to read and filter through them all each day. Surely their is a way to post a bulletin and when people have time go back and forth and look at that. Let me know if anyone nkows.kimpulsive wrote: I know what you're saying there are several commercials that make me feel like that! Not just the chewing but the way they say certain words too. I hate the nutra system commercial because of the lady who talks about how much she loves chocolate and any diet that lets her eat it everyday is the diet for her. I can just imagine her eating chocolate and loving it a lot or something sick like that!!Kim>> I found you guys through a Live Journal site I discovered today. So, > I'll just repost my intro post from there :)> > I found the LJ site because I was searching online to see if anyone > else has the sort of reaction I have to food noises in commercials and > television shows. It seems lately commercials have gotten way worse > about this. Especially commercials for Carl's Jr. (Hardees) and > Churches chicken. They're filled with smacking, chewing, slurping > noises that make me CRAZY. I literally have a physical reaction to > these commercials, almost fight or flight. My heart races, my skin > crawls and I feel like I want to scream. It's almost a feeling of rage > that comes over me. I dive for the remote immediately, of course, but > even hearing a little bit of it causes a reaction. If I cannot find > the remote

fast enough I actually put my hands of my ears and sing > loudly until the commercial is over.> > Am I nuts?>

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click edit membership at the top of the screen, then I think you can

get a daily digest, which is one email with all of the day's emails in

one thread.

> >

> > I found you guys through a Live Journal site I discovered today.

> So,

> > I'll just repost my intro post from there :)

> >

> > I found the LJ site because I was searching online to see if anyone

> > else has the sort of reaction I have to food noises in commercials

> and

> > television shows. It seems lately commercials have gotten way worse

> > about this. Especially commercials for Carl's Jr. (Hardees) and

> > Churches chicken. They're filled with smacking, chewing, slurping

> > noises that make me CRAZY. I literally have a physical reaction to

> > these commercials, almost fight or flight. My heart races, my skin

> > crawls and I feel like I want to scream. It's almost a feeling of

> rage

> > that comes over me. I dive for the remote immediately, of course,

> but

> > even hearing a little bit of it causes a reaction. If I cannot find

> > the remote fast enough I actually put my hands of my ears and sing

> > loudly until the commercial is over.

> >

> > Am I nuts?

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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There was one commercial where some guy bites into an apple

Another one where they are selling something that cleans your teeth with

your fingers and the dancers go SHHHHH over and over...

Hart!!

>

>Reply-To: Soundsensitivity

>To: Soundsensitivity

>Subject: Re:

>Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:27:23 -0700 (PDT)

>

>Is their any way to be a part of the group but to NOT receive all of the

>conversation emails? It is just getting pretty overwhelming to read and

>filter through them all each day. Surely their is a way to post a bulletin

>and when people have time go back and forth and look at that. Let me know

>if anyone nkows.

>

>kimpulsive wrote: I know what you're saying there

>are several commercials that make me

>feel like that! Not just the chewing but the way they say certain

>words too. I hate the nutra system commercial because of the lady who

>talks about how much she loves chocolate and any diet that lets her

>eat it everyday is the diet for her. I can just imagine her eating

>chocolate and loving it a lot or something sick like that!!

>Kim

>

>

>

> >

> > I found you guys through a Live Journal site I discovered today.

>So,

> > I'll just repost my intro post from there :)

> >

> > I found the LJ site because I was searching online to see if anyone

> > else has the sort of reaction I have to food noises in commercials

>and

> > television shows. It seems lately commercials have gotten way worse

> > about this. Especially commercials for Carl's Jr. (Hardees) and

> > Churches chicken. They're filled with smacking, chewing, slurping

> > noises that make me CRAZY. I literally have a physical reaction to

> > these commercials, almost fight or flight. My heart races, my skin

> > crawls and I feel like I want to scream. It's almost a feeling of

>rage

> > that comes over me. I dive for the remote immediately, of course,

>but

> > even hearing a little bit of it causes a reaction. If I cannot find

> > the remote fast enough I actually put my hands of my ears and sing

> > loudly until the commercial is over.

> >

> > Am I nuts?

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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there a lot of commercials where i have to change the station or grab

the remote and 'MUTE'......songs like on the el pollo loco

commercial, also, one where a HUGE ZEBRA with a HUGE TONGUE is

licking a glass door 'GROSS'.................many more that i can't

think of right now but i also go crazy if i even see someone about to

eat within earshot of me. i left the waiting room of my dr's office

when a family decided it was " lunchtime " in the waiting room. this

has happened to me many times. if i see someone taking out a piece

of gum, i have to leave, knowing what's coming. it's really gotten

worse in the last couple of years. i cannot visit my best friends

house anymore because her daughter's eating habits are scraping the

silverware on the plate, chewing with a huge mouthful of food even to

the point where it is spilling out and talking while eating. her mom

noticed that i " cringe " when i even see her when i visit because at

some point, i know i am going have to either listen or " pretty

obviously " AVOID being near her when we eat. i tried explaining

and she knows i have this but i think it may have cost our

friendship. instead of trying to teach this 21 yr. old manners, she

told her i have a " mental problem " .........O.K. THIS SUCKS! Donna

> > >

> > > I found you guys through a Live Journal site I discovered today.

> >So,

> > > I'll just repost my intro post from there :)

> > >

> > > I found the LJ site because I was searching online to see if

anyone

> > > else has the sort of reaction I have to food noises in

commercials

> >and

> > > television shows. It seems lately commercials have gotten way

worse

> > > about this. Especially commercials for Carl's Jr. (Hardees) and

> > > Churches chicken. They're filled with smacking, chewing,

slurping

> > > noises that make me CRAZY. I literally have a physical reaction

to

> > > these commercials, almost fight or flight. My heart races, my

skin

> > > crawls and I feel like I want to scream. It's almost a feeling

of

> >rage

> > > that comes over me. I dive for the remote immediately, of

course,

> >but

> > > even hearing a little bit of it causes a reaction. If I cannot

find

> > > the remote fast enough I actually put my hands of my ears and

sing

> > > loudly until the commercial is over.

> > >

> > > Am I nuts?

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Yeah people are idiots Donna. You should be pretty

used to that by now.

Chris

--- Donna wrote:

>

> there a lot of commercials where i have to change

> the station or grab

> the remote and 'MUTE'......songs like on the el

> pollo loco

> commercial, also, one where a HUGE ZEBRA with a HUGE

> TONGUE is

> licking a glass door 'GROSS'.................many

> more that i can't

> think of right now but i also go crazy if i even see

> someone about to

> eat within earshot of me. i left the waiting room

> of my dr's office

> when a family decided it was " lunchtime " in the

> waiting room. this

> has happened to me many times. if i see someone

> taking out a piece

> of gum, i have to leave, knowing what's coming.

> it's really gotten

> worse in the last couple of years. i cannot visit

> my best friends

> house anymore because her daughter's eating habits

> are scraping the

> silverware on the plate, chewing with a huge

> mouthful of food even to

> the point where it is spilling out and talking while

> eating. her mom

> noticed that i " cringe " when i even see her when i

> visit because at

> some point, i know i am going have to either listen

> or " pretty

> obviously " AVOID being near her when we eat. i

> tried explaining

> and she knows i have this but i think it may have

> cost our

> friendship. instead of trying to teach this 21 yr.

> old manners, she

> told her i have a " mental problem " .........O.K.

> THIS SUCKS! Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I found you guys through a Live Journal site I

> discovered today.

> > >So,

> > > > I'll just repost my intro post from there :)

> > > >

> > > > I found the LJ site because I was searching

> online to see if

> anyone

> > > > else has the sort of reaction I have to food

> noises in

> commercials

> > >and

> > > > television shows. It seems lately commercials

> have gotten way

> worse

> > > > about this. Especially commercials for Carl's

> Jr. (Hardees) and

> > > > Churches chicken. They're filled with

> smacking, chewing,

> slurping

> > > > noises that make me CRAZY. I literally have a

> physical reaction

> to

> > > > these commercials, almost fight or flight. My

> heart races, my

> skin

> > > > crawls and I feel like I want to scream. It's

> almost a feeling

> of

> > >rage

> > > > that comes over me. I dive for the remote

> immediately, of

> course,

> > >but

> > > > even hearing a little bit of it causes a

> reaction. If I cannot

> find

> > > > the remote fast enough I actually put my hands

> of my ears and

> sing

> > > > loudly until the commercial is over.

> > > >

> > > > Am I nuts?

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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By telling her daughter that you have a 'mental

problem' she simply means that you aren't an idiot

like her or her daughter. With all due respect to you

Donna, Fuck her...

--- Donna wrote:

>

> there a lot of commercials where i have to change

> the station or grab

> the remote and 'MUTE'......songs like on the el

> pollo loco

> commercial, also, one where a HUGE ZEBRA with a HUGE

> TONGUE is

> licking a glass door 'GROSS'.................many

> more that i can't

> think of right now but i also go crazy if i even see

> someone about to

> eat within earshot of me. i left the waiting room

> of my dr's office

> when a family decided it was " lunchtime " in the

> waiting room. this

> has happened to me many times. if i see someone

> taking out a piece

> of gum, i have to leave, knowing what's coming.

> it's really gotten

> worse in the last couple of years. i cannot visit

> my best friends

> house anymore because her daughter's eating habits

> are scraping the

> silverware on the plate, chewing with a huge

> mouthful of food even to

> the point where it is spilling out and talking while

> eating. her mom

> noticed that i " cringe " when i even see her when i

> visit because at

> some point, i know i am going have to either listen

> or " pretty

> obviously " AVOID being near her when we eat. i

> tried explaining

> and she knows i have this but i think it may have

> cost our

> friendship. instead of trying to teach this 21 yr.

> old manners, she

> told her i have a " mental problem " .........O.K.

> THIS SUCKS! Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I found you guys through a Live Journal site I

> discovered today.

> > >So,

> > > > I'll just repost my intro post from there :)

> > > >

> > > > I found the LJ site because I was searching

> online to see if

> anyone

> > > > else has the sort of reaction I have to food

> noises in

> commercials

> > >and

> > > > television shows. It seems lately commercials

> have gotten way

> worse

> > > > about this. Especially commercials for Carl's

> Jr. (Hardees) and

> > > > Churches chicken. They're filled with

> smacking, chewing,

> slurping

> > > > noises that make me CRAZY. I literally have a

> physical reaction

> to

> > > > these commercials, almost fight or flight. My

> heart races, my

> skin

> > > > crawls and I feel like I want to scream. It's

> almost a feeling

> of

> > >rage

> > > > that comes over me. I dive for the remote

> immediately, of

> course,

> > >but

> > > > even hearing a little bit of it causes a

> reaction. If I cannot

> find

> > > > the remote fast enough I actually put my hands

> of my ears and

> sing

> > > > loudly until the commercial is over.

> > > >

> > > > Am I nuts?

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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YES, FUCK HER AND EVERYONE WHO LOOKS LIKE HER. It is getting worse for me as

well.

Today there is an " environmental?? " truck outside making a very loud noise

and this will last all day.

It is there to suck out something from the restaurants across the street. I

have complained to the EPA and they actually drove out here one day!!!!

(Manhattan) but that day the truck was not there!

Oh well. I was surprised that they came to check out the noise but that was

the end of that. I never know when the truck will be here. I cannot imagine

life for people living on this block. Heck I am here til' 5 and can barely

stand it. I am the one who was reprimanded on my 3 year anniversary here at

the magazine for complaining about noise. I have no more chances. One more

complaint and I am out of here. There is something wrong here. I am a hard

worker and it is distracting when others are on the phone talking to

friends. I GET IN TROUBLE but they don't and they continue not to work. I

guess I have to invest in those $300 headphones now and look weird.

Told my co-worker I will give her a bunch of rocks to throw at me if she

needs my attention while I am wearing them!!

pia

sorry about the language!!

>

>Reply-To: Soundsensitivity

>To: Soundsensitivity

>Subject: Re:

>Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 02:06:18 -0700 (PDT)

>

>By telling her daughter that you have a 'mental

>problem' she simply means that you aren't an idiot

>like her or her daughter. With all due respect to you

>Donna, Fuck her...

>

>

>--- Donna wrote:

>

> >

> > there a lot of commercials where i have to change

> > the station or grab

> > the remote and 'MUTE'......songs like on the el

> > pollo loco

> > commercial, also, one where a HUGE ZEBRA with a HUGE

> > TONGUE is

> > licking a glass door 'GROSS'.................many

> > more that i can't

> > think of right now but i also go crazy if i even see

> > someone about to

> > eat within earshot of me. i left the waiting room

> > of my dr's office

> > when a family decided it was " lunchtime " in the

> > waiting room. this

> > has happened to me many times. if i see someone

> > taking out a piece

> > of gum, i have to leave, knowing what's coming.

> > it's really gotten

> > worse in the last couple of years. i cannot visit

> > my best friends

> > house anymore because her daughter's eating habits

> > are scraping the

> > silverware on the plate, chewing with a huge

> > mouthful of food even to

> > the point where it is spilling out and talking while

> > eating. her mom

> > noticed that i " cringe " when i even see her when i

> > visit because at

> > some point, i know i am going have to either listen

> > or " pretty

> > obviously " AVOID being near her when we eat. i

> > tried explaining

> > and she knows i have this but i think it may have

> > cost our

> > friendship. instead of trying to teach this 21 yr.

> > old manners, she

> > told her i have a " mental problem " .........O.K.

> > THIS SUCKS! Donna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > I found you guys through a Live Journal site I

> > discovered today.

> > > >So,

> > > > > I'll just repost my intro post from there :)

> > > > >

> > > > > I found the LJ site because I was searching

> > online to see if

> > anyone

> > > > > else has the sort of reaction I have to food

> > noises in

> > commercials

> > > >and

> > > > > television shows. It seems lately commercials

> > have gotten way

> > worse

> > > > > about this. Especially commercials for Carl's

> > Jr. (Hardees) and

> > > > > Churches chicken. They're filled with

> > smacking, chewing,

> > slurping

> > > > > noises that make me CRAZY. I literally have a

> > physical reaction

> > to

> > > > > these commercials, almost fight or flight. My

> > heart races, my

> > skin

> > > > > crawls and I feel like I want to scream. It's

> > almost a feeling

> > of

> > > >rage

> > > > > that comes over me. I dive for the remote

> > immediately, of

> > course,

> > > >but

> > > > > even hearing a little bit of it causes a

> > reaction. If I cannot

> > find

> > > > > the remote fast enough I actually put my hands

> > of my ears and

> > sing

> > > > > loudly until the commercial is over.

> > > > >

> > > > > Am I nuts?

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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thanks everyone, i feel the same way and i didn't know i could

say " FUCK THEM ALL " on here but it sure feels good!!!!!!! pia, i feel

really bad for you at work, i KNOW what you're going through, i can't

even listen to anyone BUT ME on the keyboard or clicking the mouse

and as my therapist told me " seriously joking " .... " you know you can

never own a gun, right " ?????? i just smiled at her. there is one

thing i changed when this got worse and that is my anxiety

medication, the only medication i take. i switched to klonopin maybe

a year or so ago and maybe just coincidence but more and more sounds

are DRIVING ME CRAZY...again, thanks for the support. donna

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I found you guys through a Live Journal site I

> > > discovered today.

> > > > >So,

> > > > > > I'll just repost my intro post from there :)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I found the LJ site because I was searching

> > > online to see if

> > > anyone

> > > > > > else has the sort of reaction I have to food

> > > noises in

> > > commercials

> > > > >and

> > > > > > television shows. It seems lately commercials

> > > have gotten way

> > > worse

> > > > > > about this. Especially commercials for Carl's

> > > Jr. (Hardees) and

> > > > > > Churches chicken. They're filled with

> > > smacking, chewing,

> > > slurping

> > > > > > noises that make me CRAZY. I literally have a

> > > physical reaction

> > > to

> > > > > > these commercials, almost fight or flight. My

> > > heart races, my

> > > skin

> > > > > > crawls and I feel like I want to scream. It's

> > > almost a feeling

> > > of

> > > > >rage

> > > > > > that comes over me. I dive for the remote

> > > immediately, of

> > > course,

> > > > >but

> > > > > > even hearing a little bit of it causes a

> > > reaction. If I cannot

> > > find

> > > > > > the remote fast enough I actually put my hands

> > > of my ears and

> > > sing

> > > > > > loudly until the commercial is over.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Am I nuts?

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Earphones work good to me, and when someone needs my attention they

yell at me or point at me or something like that. I put my music off

and listen to them, talk back and putt the music back on.

it doesn't have to be very loud, the music, bust just hard enough to

not hear sounds from outside and focus on the music.

I, as only one at my school, have oermission to wear the earphones

while making exams, at lessons.. everywhere. Almost no one knows why

I wear them, but they don't look weird at me anymore.

In restaurants i wear it too, poeple are getting used to it luckely.

And if co-workers ask why you wear them, you have a good reason.

Your boss must understand it.

Jeroen.

wrote:

>

>YES, FUCK HER AND EVERYONE WHO LOOKS LIKE HER. It is getting worse

for me as

>well.

>Today there is an " environmental?? " truck outside making a very loud

noise and this will last all day.

>It is there to suck out something from the restaurants across the

street. I

>have complained to the EPA and they actually drove out here one

day!!!! (Manhattan) but that day the truck was not there!

>Oh well. I was surprised that they came to check out the noise but

that was the end of that. I never know when the truck will be here. I

cannot imagine life for people living on this block. Heck I am here

til' 5 and can barely stand it. I am the one who was reprimanded on

my 3 year anniversary here at the magazine for complaining about

noise. I have no more chances. One more complaint and I am out of

here. There is something wrong here. I am a hard worker and it is

distracting when others are on the phone talking to friends. I GET IN

TROUBLE but they don't and they continue not to work.

I guess I have to invest in those $300 headphones now and look weird.

Told my co-worker I will give her a bunch of rocks to throw at me if

she

> needs my attention while I am wearing them!!

> pia

> sorry about the language!!

>

>

> >

> >Reply-To: Soundsensitivity

> >To: Soundsensitivity

> >Subject: Re:

> >Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 02:06:18 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> >By telling her daughter that you have a 'mental

> >problem' she simply means that you aren't an idiot

> >like her or her daughter. With all due respect to you

> >Donna, Fuck her...

> >

> >

> >--- Donna wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > there a lot of commercials where i have to change

> > > the station or grab

> > > the remote and 'MUTE'......songs like on the el

> > > pollo loco

> > > commercial, also, one where a HUGE ZEBRA with a HUGE

> > > TONGUE is

> > > licking a glass door 'GROSS'.................many

> > > more that i can't

> > > think of right now but i also go crazy if i even see

> > > someone about to

> > > eat within earshot of me. i left the waiting room

> > > of my dr's office

> > > when a family decided it was " lunchtime " in the

> > > waiting room. this

> > > has happened to me many times. if i see someone

> > > taking out a piece

> > > of gum, i have to leave, knowing what's coming.

> > > it's really gotten

> > > worse in the last couple of years. i cannot visit

> > > my best friends

> > > house anymore because her daughter's eating habits

> > > are scraping the

> > > silverware on the plate, chewing with a huge

> > > mouthful of food even to

> > > the point where it is spilling out and talking while

> > > eating. her mom

> > > noticed that i " cringe " when i even see her when i

> > > visit because at

> > > some point, i know i am going have to either listen

> > > or " pretty

> > > obviously " AVOID being near her when we eat. i

> > > tried explaining

> > > and she knows i have this but i think it may have

> > > cost our

> > > friendship. instead of trying to teach this 21 yr.

> > > old manners, she

> > > told her i have a " mental problem " .........O.K.

> > > THIS SUCKS! Donna

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I found you guys through a Live Journal site I

> > > discovered today.

> > > > >So,

> > > > > > I'll just repost my intro post from there :)

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I found the LJ site because I was searching

> > > online to see if

> > > anyone

> > > > > > else has the sort of reaction I have to food

> > > noises in

> > > commercials

> > > > >and

> > > > > > television shows. It seems lately commercials

> > > have gotten way

> > > worse

> > > > > > about this. Especially commercials for Carl's

> > > Jr. (Hardees) and

> > > > > > Churches chicken. They're filled with

> > > smacking, chewing,

> > > slurping

> > > > > > noises that make me CRAZY. I literally have a

> > > physical reaction

> > > to

> > > > > > these commercials, almost fight or flight. My

> > > heart races, my

> > > skin

> > > > > > crawls and I feel like I want to scream. It's

> > > almost a feeling

> > > of

> > > > >rage

> > > > > > that comes over me. I dive for the remote

> > > immediately, of

> > > course,

> > > > >but

> > > > > > even hearing a little bit of it causes a

> > > reaction. If I cannot

> > > find

> > > > > > the remote fast enough I actually put my hands

> > > of my ears and

> > > sing

> > > > > > loudly until the commercial is over.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Am I nuts?

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Jeroen. Due to the fact that you have no children makes it possible

for you to freely use these devices to block the outside world. I

would never get away with that since my 4 year old is with me nearly

everywhere I go. When I worked she even came with me. I had a nice

boss! I suppose it would make me a bit neglectful of her If I kept

those on all day. At the present she doesnt bother me though,

(unless she is whining BUt I believe everyone, not just sss

sufferers dislike whining)so I never have to shut her noises out. It

would be very nice to have that when my husband or son are home

though! Also, luckily for you, People never look funny at a young

person listening to music all day. My teenage son spends the

majority of his waking hours with his ipod attached to his head. I

say use them while you're young and have your freedom to do so and

hopefully once you have children they don't bother you. Your lucky

your boss allows this. WHat kind of work do you do?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I found you guys through a Live Journal site I

> > > > discovered today.

> > > > > >So,

> > > > > > > I'll just repost my intro post from there :)

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I found the LJ site because I was searching

> > > > online to see if

> > > > anyone

> > > > > > > else has the sort of reaction I have to food

> > > > noises in

> > > > commercials

> > > > > >and

> > > > > > > television shows. It seems lately commercials

> > > > have gotten way

> > > > worse

> > > > > > > about this. Especially commercials for Carl's

> > > > Jr. (Hardees) and

> > > > > > > Churches chicken. They're filled with

> > > > smacking, chewing,

> > > > slurping

> > > > > > > noises that make me CRAZY. I literally have a

> > > > physical reaction

> > > > to

> > > > > > > these commercials, almost fight or flight. My

> > > > heart races, my

> > > > skin

> > > > > > > crawls and I feel like I want to scream. It's

> > > > almost a feeling

> > > > of

> > > > > >rage

> > > > > > > that comes over me. I dive for the remote

> > > > immediately, of

> > > > course,

> > > > > >but

> > > > > > > even hearing a little bit of it causes a

> > > > reaction. If I cannot

> > > > find

> > > > > > > the remote fast enough I actually put my hands

> > > > of my ears and

> > > > sing

> > > > > > > loudly until the commercial is over.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Am I nuts?

>

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