Re: Jelly - CWD

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Many cwd have a small amount of cell wall material, but not

mycoplasmas: all mycoplasmas lack a cell wall altogether. They are

bounded by nothing but a single membrane. I think they have zero

suceptibility to the beta-lactams. Those are the abx that inhibit

cell-wall synthesis. Therefore they kill largely when the bacteria are

dividing, and I think also sometimes non-dividing bacteria ned to

replace part of the wall and will die if B-lactams are there to

prevent it (if I'm not making that up).

Youre right that many drugs fail to work (or fail to work as well) on

certain organisms when they are inside cells.

I havent heard about cyclines working in the way you describe... I

dont know much about mycoplasmas, tho I dont know any reason why they

wouldnt be suceptible to cyclines in the same ways other bx are.

<herranenb@h...> wrote:

> My understanding of CWDs is based entirely on my understanding of

> Mycoplasma. I have been under the impression that most ABX have no

> affect on Mycos because the survive inside of normal cells. Here ABX

> can not reach them.

>

> Because Mycos have no cell wall they are also not subject to ABX. I

> thought in a very simple way, ABX break down the cell wall of a

> typical bacteria thus causing their death. I thought the way

> tetracyclines worked on Mycos was totally different. Tetracyclines

> some how prevent Mycoplasma from re-entering new cells where they

> will be safe from the immune system. Once locked outside they are

> then an easy target for our immune system, which I believe works

> just fine, IF you are talking about CWDs. I did not think these

> particular ABX had any actual affect on the Myco iteslf.

>

> Can anyone clarify this for me or fill in any missing gaps I

> have.

>

>

> > > > > Dumb question, is the factor H they talk about, heparin? I

> read

> > > some

> > > > > stuff about heparin binding to Lyme and inhibiting it. I

> also

> > > just

> > > > > found a recent study out of Japan on heparin totally

> clearing

> > > > > Babesia. It's on my website in the Lyme section, along with

> tons

> > > of

> > > > > stuff about heparin and hypercoagulation. There is a whole

> topci

> > > > > forum on hypercoagualtion. The address is in the links

> section

> > > to

> > > > > the left, thanks to Penny.

> > > > >