Re: (unknown)

December 13, 2000

it was nice to have u as surprise on the mail iam settelled in ballabgarh

with my own set up jantahospital nearly on the mathura road do plan to meet

,regards sanjeev

(unknown)

> hi

> my best wishes to every mgims student

> i am from 86 batch

> presently at apollo hospital n.delhi

> working as jr.consultant in urology

> do feel free to write to me

> rakesh khera

>

> __________________________________________________

>

October 28, 2001

Dear Dr.Goyal

Do you know whereabouts of Padam Singh 1976 batch?

Yours

VKGupta

1976 batch

(unknown)

> hi,happy deepawali to all.

> dr.gauri shankar goel

> 1985 batch

>

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November 19, 2001

dear gauri,

We have shifted to Saharanpur and are in touch

with Vinay who is in Yamunanagar. Write about your

practice, family etc.

Keep in touch

Sanjay--- GAURI SHANKAR GOEL

wrote:

> dear members,please make the site interesting.put

> more informations

> about yourself,institute,medical world,lost friends

> etc.i am eager to

> know about 85 batch.good wishes to all

>

=====

sanjay

Dr sanjay gupta

Consultant Neurosurgeon

Sri Sai Hospital

Delhi Road, Mansarover colony

Moradabad. UP, India

__________________________________________________

November 19, 2001

When you want to write to your friends, do not send messages on

MGIMS@.... Everyone doesnt know you and everyone is not eager to know

what are you doing.

Reply to that person on his/her email address.

Sanjay Gupta

wrote:

dear gauri,

We have shifted to Saharanpur and are in touch

with Vinay who is in Yamunanagar. Write about your

practice, family etc.

Keep in touch

Sanjay

March 11, 2002

Dear Murali,

Congratulations

Dr Ajay Mehta

On Thu, 07 Mar 2002 Murali Narasimhan wrote :

>DEAR group members,

> I wish to in form u all that i have

>joined MD DERMATOLOGY at MMC CHENNAI.My batchmate

>rahul gupta Has joined MD Medicine in TNMC mumbai.

>Anybody coming to chennai for giving jipmer entrance

>can feel free to contact me at my residence

>PH NO 8442329.

>murali

>1995 batch

>

>__________________________________________________

>

March 17, 2002

Dear Vijay,

Nice to read your mail . Been a really long time since you left MGIMS after

internship. I did my MD medicine from there and now I have just completed

my senior residency from AIIMS. Write to me with all details from your side

soon.

Yours,

Anant Mohan

>

>Reply-To: mgims

>To: mgims

>Subject: (unknown)

>Date: 14 Mar 2002 13:02:34 -0000

>

>dear friends if somebody from 88 batch read this mail please

>reply

>

>DR.VIJAY KUMAR

>171/9,COURT ROAD

>MUZAFFARNAGAR(U.P.)

>INDIA

>PH.#0131403447

>MOB.#9837185233

>email-drvijaykp@...

>

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May 14, 2002

Yes, if I see in the inbox, dil men kuch kuch hota hai.

Parvin ( 1971 batch)

Ajay Mehta wrote: Dear Friends,

Its so true as said by our dearest Kishoreda that when we open the

mail box one is waiting eagerly to check MGIMS mails!!!

Wishes,

Ajay Mehta

1990

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June 21, 2002

21/6/02

dr attal was tiny merely 5 feet tall and 40kg but scholar i think he was

stop student in 1961 batch

rajan

>

>Reply-To: mgims

>To: mgims

>Subject: (unknown)

>Date: 21 Jun 2002 16:18:15 -0000

>

>When read about the GMC kissas that reminded me of the kissas in

>ciculation in those days. These were from GMC, told and retold, so

>a little Mirch masala and exaggeration is to be excused

>Anybody has heard of Dr Attal? He was described as a tall 6 feet

>dark fellow who could have easily mingled with a West Indian

>cricket team undetected

>His English was HORRIBLE! Anyone asking a diffidulty was told by

>him " You meet me behind the class when I am empty and you are

>vacant "

> When he asked a question and the student did not answer, he

>sarcastically used to say, " you are not saying the answer ,Oh! YOU

>canot see me I am very black? I will laugh so you will see my

>white teeth atleast "

> His wife delivered but the child did have some problem and

>did not cry for a while and required some emergency management.The

>students jokingly described that management " NOTHING WORKED AND

>ALL WeRE TENSE WHEN ONE MEDICO TOOK DR ATTAL NEAR THE CHILD AND

>TOLD THE CHILD WHO HIS FATHER WAS.THE CHILD IMMEDIATELY STARTED

>CRYING'

> Mrs Attal was either a Gynac or Surgeon so used to be in

>OT

>one day This tall person stood occupying the OT door spreading his

>hands fully and shouted at the nurse " Hey, Call Dr Attal "

>The nurse knew him was confused when she saw Dr Attal asking for

>Himself!When he saw her confusion he explained, " Are bai I am male

>Attal you go and call female Attal.... "

> We never confirmed the truth but certainly enjoyed these

>kissas pimputkar1971

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June 21, 2002

21/6/02

dr attal was tiny merely 5 feet tall and 40kg but scholar i think he was

stop student in 1961 batch but there were several stories about him his

english and odd behaviour

rajan

>

>Reply-To: mgims

>To: mgims

>Subject: (unknown)

>Date: 21 Jun 2002 16:18:15 -0000

>

>When read about the GMC kissas that reminded me of the kissas in

>ciculation in those days. These were from GMC, told and retold, so

>a little Mirch masala and exaggeration is to be excused

>Anybody has heard of Dr Attal? He was described as a tall 6 feet

>dark fellow who could have easily mingled with a West Indian

>cricket team undetected

>His English was HORRIBLE! Anyone asking a diffidulty was told by

>him " You meet me behind the class when I am empty and you are

>vacant "

> When he asked a question and the student did not answer, he

>sarcastically used to say, " you are not saying the answer ,Oh! YOU

>canot see me I am very black? I will laugh so you will see my

>white teeth atleast "

> His wife delivered but the child did have some problem and

>did not cry for a while and required some emergency management.The

>students jokingly described that management " NOTHING WORKED AND

>ALL WeRE TENSE WHEN ONE MEDICO TOOK DR ATTAL NEAR THE CHILD AND

>TOLD THE CHILD WHO HIS FATHER WAS.THE CHILD IMMEDIATELY STARTED

>CRYING'

> Mrs Attal was either a Gynac or Surgeon so used to be in

>OT

>one day This tall person stood occupying the OT door spreading his

>hands fully and shouted at the nurse " Hey, Call Dr Attal "

>The nurse knew him was confused when she saw Dr Attal asking for

>Himself!When he saw her confusion he explained, " Are bai I am male

>Attal you go and call female Attal.... "

> We never confirmed the truth but certainly enjoyed these

>kissas pimputkar1971

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June 22, 2002

Dear Dr.Pimputkar,

The Kissa about the Attals I've also

heard but not from the grapevine but from my own

cousin sister Dr.Neeta Kurve who was co PG with this

female Attal.You have told the absolute truth no extra

mirchmasala added.

Charu

--- alhad maheshwar pimputkar

wrote:

>

> When read about the GMC kissas that reminded me of

> the kissas in

> ciculation in those days. These were from GMC, told

> and retold, so

> a little Mirch masala and exaggeration is to be

> excused

> Anybody has heard of Dr Attal? He was described as a

> tall 6 feet

> dark fellow who could have easily mingled with a

> West Indian

> cricket team undetected

> His English was HORRIBLE! Anyone asking a diffidulty

> was told by

> him " You meet me behind the class when I am empty

> and you are

> vacant "

> When he asked a question and the student did

> not answer, he

> sarcastically used to say, " you are not saying the

> answer ,Oh! YOU

> canot see me I am very black? I will laugh so you

> will see my

> white teeth atleast "

> His wife delivered but the child did have

> some problem and

> did not cry for a while and required some emergency

> management.The

> students jokingly described that management

> " NOTHING WORKED AND

> ALL WeRE TENSE WHEN ONE MEDICO TOOK DR ATTAL NEAR

> THE CHILD AND

> TOLD THE CHILD WHO HIS FATHER WAS.THE CHILD

> IMMEDIATELY STARTED

> CRYING'

> Mrs Attal was either a Gynac or Surgeon so

> used to be in

> OT

> one day This tall person stood occupying the OT door

> spreading his

> hands fully and shouted at the nurse " Hey, Call Dr

> Attal "

> The nurse knew him was confused when she saw Dr

> Attal asking for

> Himself!When he saw her confusion he explained, " Are

> bai I am male

> Attal you go and call female Attal.... "

> We never confirmed the truth but certainly

> enjoyed these

> kissas pimputkar1971

>

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August 23, 2002

Three Cheers for Pranay !!!

Dr shah was going beyond his capabilities. I know him since his student

days. Putting down others was his favourite pasttime. His should know that

domain of his speciality is too small to talk so much about.

He should keep his eyes and brain open and be verse with the

latest..otherwise he will keep on writing similar riduculous tasteless

baseless articles. How don't know how he gets this much time...maybe he is

not doing well in his professional career.

So Mr. Shah...please talk only that much which is palatable to all...don't

crack jokes at the cost of others.

My english may not be as flowery as yours but i am sure i don't keep on

criticising everyone all the tiime except myself

So please watchout.

(unknown)

> dr shah s joke on medical oncology was rediculous i think he is far behind

time sir please get ides of upcoming specialities dm medical oncology is a

superspeciality which is run in delhi chennai ahmedabad bangalore i have

done my dm in medical oncology from chennai after finishing md medicine from

sevagram till now there are 60 medical oncologists in india and we have

regular indian society of oncology conference will be held in bombay if

possible please attend and see what medical and paediatric oncology is sir

beg you pardon open your eyes and see what is whatt please dont comment on

any speciality badly dr ravin i appreciate you to entere into new field if

dr shah creates such jokes how can our medical science grow good luck

rabin sir sorry shah ji i am pranay or raju from mgims sevagram bye

friends sorry for my harsh words bad spellings and grammatical mistakes bye

>

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September 21, 2002

Then by which method she should face death?

LPR

(unknown)

> From gupta_op hotmail .com

> An urgent appeal

> Amina Lawal must not face death by stoning

> Dr op gupta

> Dr.dilip gupta

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April 24, 2003

I found this very interesting and definitely food for thought, I eat no

processed foods or animal fat (except a small amount of fish) and cut down on

salt. I am aware that drinking lots of water makes it vital to take salt but

until I read this was not aware of just how important. I think the key is

balance in everything.

I personally feel eating animal protein (if not organic) is only going to make

things worse as it is a known fact that animals are pumped with drugs,

antibiotics and hormones just to keep them alive in the atrocious conditions

they are made to live in, well certainly the case in the intensive farming

industry so I can't see how eating meat could benefit at all. You can get

enough protein from vegetable sources eg hummus is high in protein and eat that

every day, it is scrumptious. But the salt issue is food for thought!

Jane

(unknown)

" Nutritional Considerations in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome " By W.

Cartmell, Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients

As a massage therapy specialist, I've had a number of clients

diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS). Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome is associated with long-term problems of fatigue or

exhaustion inconsistent with the amount of physical exertion, which

persist for 6 months or more. It generally does not respond to rest

and often results in extreme debilitation. Symptoms may include

problems with concentration, reading or comprehension, blurred vision

or pain in the eyes, and increased sensitivity to temperatures,

odors, foods, or allergies. Symptoms of chest pain, irregular heart

beat, digestive problems, muscle twitching or cramps are also common.

The causes of CFS are not well understood nor is the disease well

defined; it's sometimes referred to as Chronic Fatigue and Immune

Dysfunction Syndrome (CFIDS). Like many diseases, CFS may have more

than one cause. Fatigue problems can be caused by toxicity from

industrial chemicals or prescribed medications, or result from

chronic infection, trauma injury or excessive stress. An imbalance in

thyroid, pituitary or adrenal hormones can cause chronic fatigue, as

can a dietary insufficiency or imbalance.

Virtually any disease can be caused or made worse if the diet is

inadequate to support health. When I developed symptoms of CFS in

1994, I began to explore the possible link between CFS and sub-

optimal nutrition. I eventually discovered a basic dietary imbalance

that, when corrected, solved my 5-year problems of chronic fatigue.

Sodium is an essential nutrient for fluid balance. The actual amount

of sodium required per day is unknown, but the recommended amount for

adults varies from a minimum of 200 milligrams to an upper limit of

3,000 milligrams; approximately the amount of sodium in 1-1/4

teaspoon (7.6 grams) of salt. [1,3] The mean daily intake of salt for

Americans is around 10 grams per day; approximately 3 grams occurring

naturally in foods, another 3 grams from processed foods and 4 grams

added during meals. [1,2] Using one-fourth to one-half teaspoon of

added salt per day is generally regarded as reasonable and safe. The

highest sources of sodium in the diet are salt, animal protein,

processed foods and chemically softened water. A diet chronically

high in water and potassium, and low in animal protein, processed

foods or added salt can potentially lead to sodium depletion. [1,4]

Symptoms of low blood sodium (hyponatremia) include extreme

debilitating fatigue, aching skeletal muscles, abnormally high blood

pH, chronic low blood pressure, orthostatic tachycardia, cardiac

arrhythmias and profuse sweating upon minimal exertion. [1,4]

Hyponatremia in competitive sports is a growing concern, and in

noncompetitive sports such as desert hiking, cases have skyrocketed

in the last decade. [6] Mild to moderate hyponatremia can often be

corrected by simply increasing dietary sodium. [6] More severe cases

may require a restriction of water, and/or the administration of

corticosteroids to support adrenal function. [4]

The volume and composition of body fluids are controlled by water

ingestion and excretion, acid-base reactions and electrolytes

(salts). These mechanisms are closely interrelated and imbalances are

typically multiple disturbances. [4] Electrolytes such as sodium play

essential roles in maintaining proper fluid pH, ionic balance

(osmolarity), and fluid pressure. If you disrupt the electrolytic

balance, then the body's physiology in general can become disturbed.

Adrenal hormones, " aldosterone " and " cortisone, " regulate fluid

balance and nutrient levels. Aldosterone controls blood sodium and

potassium levels. If potassium levels become too high, aldosterone is

secreted causing the kidneys to excrete more potassium and retain

more sodium. Low sodium can also stimulate the secretion of

aldosterone. [1-4] A diet chronically high in potassium or low in

sodium can stress the adrenals. [1] Excess potassium is also a

natural diuretic and causes some loss of sodium. Foods highest in

potassium include whole fruits and vegetables and their juices. [1]

Cortisol stimulates the breakdown of proteins and fats, and provides

for the conversion of some amino acids into glucose as needed

(gluconeogenesis). If the diet is deficient in protein, or if

digestion of protein is inadequate, extra cortisol must be produced

to break down muscle tissue for needed amino acids. This extra demand

on the adrenals could conceivably lead to adrenal fatigue and

cortisol deficiency with impaired gluconeogenesis, decreased glycogen

production, hypoglycemia and a decrease in metabolism. [2-4]

Neuromuscular functions might also decrease, as well as resistance to

infections, inflammations and/or stress. [3,4] The decreased

resistance to stress and disease could increase susceptibility to

infections of Epstein Barr or other viruses. In this respect, Epstein

Barr, common in people with CFS, may be more an opportunistic

infection and a symptom of immune system weakness, rather than a

direct cause of CFS. Insufficient dietary protein or impaired protein

digestion, coupled with an excess of cortisol production and

breakdown of muscle tissue, could be a factor in the cause of

Fibromyalgia, a soft tissue condition often seen in people with CFS.

When the adrenals become fatigued and unable to release adequate

amounts of aldosterone or cortisol, potassium levels rise, sodium and

blood sugar levels fall, body fluid volume decreases and hypotension

and dehydration can result. [3,4] Aerobic exercise or caffeine

consumption can add more stress to the adrenals. Massive water

ingestion can also aggravate the condition and lead to a high-

water/low-sodium state called " dilutional hyponatremia. " [3,4]

If adrenal function is impaired, the physiological balance can become

disrupted. High blood potassium (hyperkalemia), low blood sodium, and

hypotension, together, suggest adrenal insufficiency. [4] Indeed,

these are classic symptoms of 's disease, a chronic and

progressive adrenal disease associated with adrenocortical

hypofunction, including insufficient production of cortisol and

aldosterone. [2] The early signs of 's disease include

weakness, fatigue and orthostatic hypotension. [4] Many who have

's disease appear healthy, but they experience acute

adrenocortical insufficiency when under stress. [4] This is also true

in people with CFS. Could CFS be related to 's disease?

If the physiological balance is disrupted, normal adrenal function

can become impaired. The classic symptoms of 's disease, high

blood potassium, low blood sodium, and hypotension, can be induced by

improper diet or lifestyle and potentially result in adrenal

insufficiency. In such cases, diet and lifestyle patterns should be

considered in order to promote normal adrenal health and function.

My work as a massage therapist is very physical and used to leave me

drenched in sweat and short of breath. My blood pressure was low and

my heart beat, irregular. I was usually too exhausted in the evenings

to even watch TV. I would get up in the morning fatigued and would

have to lie down for an hour in the afternoon. If I was busy, I would

skip lunch and just get by with an espresso. I didn't avoid salt

specifically, but I'd gotten in the habit of not using it. My

skeletal muscles ached and were abnormally hardened, and a muscle

injury at the elbow would not heal after 6 months. Muscle cramps were

a common occurrence. I ate very few processed foods, had 4-8 servings

of juice, fresh fruit or vegetables each day and drank water when

thirsty, generally about 64 ounces a day.

Working with the balance of sodium and potassium seemed to benefit me

greatly. A teaspoon of salt before doing massage decreased my

sweating and significantly improved my energy. However, keeping

sodium and potassium in a proper balance seemed difficult. If I took

a little too much potassium, I would fall back into exhaustion and

excessive sweating. Too much salt seemed to drive out potassium and I

would have problems with muscle cramps. I felt I was on the right

track, but I still lacked a real answer to my problems of chronic

fatigue.

In the fall of 1999, I was reading the book Natural Alternatives to

Over-the Counter and Prescription Drugs, by T. Murray, ND.

Dr. Murray discussed the different common forms of calcium

supplements, and how calcium carbonate tends to neutralize stomach

acid more than calcium citrate. He advised supplementing with calcium

citrate and using hydrochloric acid tablets (Betaine HCl) if

necessary to better insure complete digestion. Hydrochloric acid is

secreted by the stomach and aids in the first stage of protein

digestion.

I had been taking calcium carbonate with meals for years and,

although my diet had ample amounts of protein, I wondered if the

calcium carbonate might be inhibiting protein digestion and whether

that could be a factor in my fatigue. I began taking the calcium

carbonate between meals and noticed a definite improvement in energy.

When I started taking Betaine HCl with meals, the results were truly

remarkable. Within a day, there was a significant increase in energy

and stamina. Within weeks, the muscle injury of six months healed. My

muscle discomfort substantially improved and areas that were hardened

became much more normal. The excess sweating during work ceased and

the problems of chronic fatigue vanished.

Socio-economic changes may be related to the modern day advent of

Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. In the mid-1970s, national food standards

for processed foods were revised in order to limit the amount of salt

added by food processors to soups, snacks and other foods. People

became wary of salt and got in the habit of consciously avoiding it.

Processed food manufacturers followed the market by giving the public

what they wanted -- salt free foods. The general avoidance of dietary

salt continues to this day. Twenty-five years ago, Americans were

thought to be eating too much salt. Now, some may be getting too

little salt and as a result, may be experiencing problems of adrenal

exhaustion and chronic fatigue.

The early and mid-1970s saw the beginning of the modern day " health

and nutrition " movement. People became interested in natural foods

and nutrition, and aware of the importance of taking dietary

supplements. By the early to mid 1980s, people were taking more

dietary supplements, using less salt and sometimes experiencing

problems of chronic fatigue. " Chronic Fatigue Syndrome " became an

officially recognized disease. I wonder if a general avoidance of

salt, or consumption of calcium supplements with meals could

contribute to CFS.

From the late 1980s to the present, there has been an increased

interest in health and fitness with a focus on physical exercise,

high consumption of water, juices, fruits and vegetables, and an

avoidance of salt and processed foods. In spite of this interest in

health and fitness, CFS has persisted as a common ailment of unknown

origin. More than 75% of my clients diagnosed with CFS work out

regularly, avoid salt and are preoccupied with drinking lots of water

or juice. They usually have hypotension as well. Could a lifestyle of

health club workouts, increased ingestion of water, juices, fruits

and vegetables and avoidance of salt be causing adrenal exhaustion

and contributing to the prevalence of CFS? The cause of 's

disease is unknown in 70% of cases. [4] I wonder if the

classic " symptoms " of 's disease -- high blood potassium, low

blood sodium and hypotension -- could also be the " cause " of CFS, and

whether these two diseases could be related in cause and effect.

An imbalance or insufficiency of virtually any nutrient can

potentially cause problems of chronic fatigue. These two models of

adrenal insufficiency -- one caused by an imbalance of sodium,

potassium and water osmolarity, the other by an inadequate intake or

insufficient digestion of proteins -- suggest specific dietary

concerns which may be common in the etiology of Chronic Fatigue

Syndrome. In cases of CFS where nutritional imbalance or

insufficiency may be a factor, dietary assessment and revision may

offer the best approach to treatment and cure.

References

(1.) Mahan, L. Kathleen, Escott-Stump, Sylvia, Krause's Food,

Nutrition, & Diet Therapy, 9th Edition, W.B. Saunders Company,

Division of Harcourt Brace & Co., Philadelphia, PA, 1996

(2.) Hole, W. Jr, Human Anatomy and Physiology, 2nd Edition,

Win. C. Brown Company, Dubuque, Iowa, 1981

(3.) Guyton, Arthur C., Hall, E., Text book of Medical

Physiology, 9th Edition, W.B. Saunders Company, Division of Harcourt

Brace & Co., Philadelphia, PA, 1996

(4.) Berkow, , Beers, Mark H, Editors, The Merck Manual of

Diagnosis and Therapy, 17th Edition, Merck Research Laboratories,

Division of Merck & Co., Inc., Whitehouse Station, N.J., 1999

(5.) Murray, T, Natural Alternatives to Over-the-Counter and

Prescription Drugs, Morrow and Co. Inc., New York, 1994

(6.) Kauder, Carol, Mr. Salty to the Rescue, Outside Magazine, Apr.

2000, h Publications Corp., Santa Fe, NM

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August 17, 2003

Hi!

If you are trying some herbs they contain nothing but

some chemical compounds.so,inturn they are also consider

as drugs.well,we cannt plainly say that herbs cannt

have side effects,even eating lots of tomatto causes

kidney failure,alright,be careful and if it works

they you can try that I think.

well,8 puffs of salbutamol sulphate 200mcg is not

doing that much great.I dont know what went wrong,

I was so well yesterday night,I have travelled

long distance to see my dentist to get confuse

(ofcourse we got confused!?!?)Infact I even smoked

one cigar.just after breakfast I came to lab and

everything went wrong.still not able to breath

fully.my right side of the lung is not open

fully.struggling for air! I have a feeling that

my right lung is eaten by some " insects " .

oops,I have to take my mom to hospital tomorrow,she

came from my native place to see the doctor,

dont know whether I can take her tomorrow or

not.what a junk life it is? I just hate this.

be well,

Many Greetings,

Senthil Kumar.S.

> Yesterday a.m., I went to my Tai Chi class as planned and we are

> learning a new position or step. Since I am the slowest and oldest in

> years, my teacher often leaves me to practice with another more

> advanced student. The last couple of times, she has left me we

> someone who is quite advanced, very young, but very impatient and

> both times this student has told me that I must practice and practice

> and she criticizes me ruthlessly.

>

> To me this is the opposite to what I go to class for. I go to

> practice Tai Chi to reduce stress, not to have someone get all over

> me about what I need to do. This time I spoke up and told her: " I

> don't need to be repreminded, I am doing the best I can " .

>

> Well, that's fine, but my emotions are still raging.

>

> After that I went to see about tea and herbs in China town. I

> couldn't find what I wanted so I saw an " herb doctor " who made up an

> herb remedy for me for my asthma which I started taking last night

> after dinner. It was immediately soothing.

>

> He said to come back next week to tell him how I was doing. I am

> going to try this for awhile to see if it works for me. This, could

> be the best way for me, as all this Advair etc is doing is keeping me

> jumped up and I tell you after a lifetime of potions with side

> effects, is scary.

>

> Plus, I can't really afford it. I asked him if I should stay with

> what I have. " Yes, for now " ...he advised.

>

> What has always bothered me about the treatment that I have received

> for asthma is that the disease comes with so much baggage and as

> Kumar said in our last digest: " it must be psychological " ....you bet,

> like that is really what you want to hear as your gasping for

> breath...it's the final insult in what is the one of the most

> insulting diseases to begin with...!!

>

> I heard not too long ago that they no longer consider asthma to be

> psychological in origin, but that it is a bonafide disease which may

> have psychological effects due to the discomfort it causes the

> patient having to ward off attacks (something, I am more comfortable

> with, for sure).

>

> Some of those doctors have truly gotten away with murder who have had

> the good fortune to treat me. Fortunately, I am still alive. But,

> I've gotten smart through experience...but not well, and maybe I

> never will be well. When I was treated by my chiropractor I found

> that different points of adjustment or pressure can relieve the

> symptoms and open the airways... There are a lot of solutions to this

> disease...also accupressure...even applying pressure to the fatty

> part of my hand, the palm below my thumb, can relieve the pressure on

> my lungs. So, I just keep reading and trying to avoid aggressive

> people...

>

> I am really sorry to hear about the complications that some of you

> talk about; fortunately I've been able to stay out of the hospital ER

> for awhile now. --Venabelle

>

August 17, 2003

just checking,I have replied to this mail two times

still it didnt come to my inbox!