Re: More from Dr. Schardt/nystatin - understanding Penny's point...

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--- In infections , " penny "

<pennyhoule@y...> wrote [iN PART]:

> I've ALWAYS, for years, been concerned that people might get too

> fixated on one organism while letting others get by them. I was

just

> happy though, that people at least started accepting the premise

> that infection might be the cause of these chronic illnesses, and

> that people were recognizing the similarities between other

chronic

> illnesses, like CFS, FMS RA, lyme disease, etc. and how they all

> respond to abx treatment.

*****If you are saying that all chronic illnesses are not caused by

Bb and that people should be looking at other organisms, I couldn't

agree with you more!!! However, if what you are saying (which is

what it sounded like in the post, and to what I was responding),

that symptoms in people WITH KNOWN Bb infections should be looking

to different organisms to explain symptoms, that is the part I

disagree with you on. Do you mean the former????

> But since everyone's so blinded by the " lyme light " most people

> aren't even interested in looking at the research, let alone get

> tested, for the other, more common, infectious bugs, or in looking

> at how they're negatively affecting our health. I was ecstatic

when

> Dr. Shoemaker came out saying that if you don't treat the staph

(or

> the mold) first, you're not going to get the lyme.

*****If only so many people were doing research on Bb!!! I guess I

don't know who the " everyone " is to whom you refer. I do know there

are a few studies here and there about Bb & AD, ALS, and MS, but not

very many at all. Even the (solid) research on Bb is relatively

sparse... Perhaps you could elaborate on 'since everyone's so

blinded by the " lyme light " ' -- it seems like this means something

very concrete to you and I'm interested in knowing what it is.

> I just keep bringing it up as a reminder, the sole voice in the

> wilderness, because nobody else does. I was talking infection on

the

> CFS/FMS boards years ago and getting criticized heavily for it

> (while Tony was being banned).

*****Who is this Tony person that you've referred to twice (last

post too)?

> Also, I HAVE had many SMOKY MOUNTAIN tests done, I'm not sure why

> you'd assume I haven't?

*****I assumed you hadn't had such a GI test because you were saying

that Nystatin might kill yeast and other pathogens that might be

lurking in the gut. Given the " might " (or whatever actual word was

used, just the lack of definitive data), it sounded like (A) you

didn't know what GI pathogens you had, nor ( what treatments they

would respond to. For those who don't know, the Smoky Mountain (or

some such named lab that I can't recall completely) assesses the

pathogens in your GI system (yeast, parasites, bacteria, both know

and possible pathogens) and also provides a sensitivity test if

pathogens are identified (for example, one bacteria that I tested

postive for also included an ABX sensitivity chart and indicated

that the bug was sensitive to mino, cipro & bactrum, but resistent

to amoxicillin, ceftin, and something else).