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I tried to refill my diflucan/fluconazole and my insurance will now

only pay for 6 pills!!! (And everyone USED to say that I have

the " best " insurance.) Sheesh, I think their new " plan " is to let

all their patients die and save money on all those drugs they'll no

longer be needing. :-(

Fortunately, I found another bottle of fluconazole in my antibiotics

drawer, so I'm good for another month, but I hate battling with my

insurance company. Every time I, or my doctor, writes them, they

claim they nevr received the letter or fax!

All I know, is that my energy has returned in a big way, and the two

consistent things I've started doing are the zithromax and the

diflucan (in addition to benicar). Plus I throw in some other abx as

the mood strikes me (or if I can feel pressure in my teeth).

I'm not going to get overly optimistic. I've had this same thing

happen when I took Cipro, and then again for several months after

i.v. abx, just to relapse. But I'm going to appreciate it while it's

here and try to get some of the health care appointments lined up

that I usually don't have the energy for.

, do you think the Lamisil is a substitute for the Diflucan or

should be taken simultaneously? Maybe I can get around my insurance

by alternating? But I don't want to lose ground by going off the

diflucan and not have something equally effective at work. Is the

lamisil expensive too? I can't afford more drugs out of pocket. I'm

already spending $160 a month on the Benicar, which I don't want to

go without, plus co-pays on the abx, hormones, etc.

Isn't it " funny " how insurance only balks at paying for the

expensive drugs? You can have boat loads of drugs like armour or

tetracycline, which are dirt cheap. :-(

penny

> > > > > > Hi Rich , actually no my basic point was that the

> > > environmental

> > > > > factor in

> > > > > > autism is the diminishing quality of our gut flora ,

due

> to

> > > over

> > > > > use of

> > > > > > broad spectrum abx'x & a high sugar diet ...Candida

> > > overgrowth

> > > > is

> > > > > the key

> > > > > > ....toxins generated by the overgrowth lead to the

> > cascade

> > > of

> > > > > events, the

> > > > > > end result is autism..that is if your 18 months or

so

> > when

> > > you

> > > > > contract

> > > > > > yeast overgrowth ...As an adult you experience

> appalling

> > > > symptoms

> > > > > that

> > > > > > collectively could be described as reducing your

> > existence

> > > to

> > > > that

> > > > > of a

> > > > > > zombie ...Many debate the existence of yeast

> overgrowth

> > as

> > > a

> > > > > defined illness

> > > > > > ...I don't need to, ive experienced it ..for decades

[now

> > > > > cured]...The point

> > > > > > is the medical profession do not recognise the

> problem

> > ,

> > > so a

> > > > > vitally

> > > > > > important factor in the health of millions is being

> > > > > ignored ...You either

> > > > > > accept that as a fact or you don't ..I put the

augment

> that

> > the

> > > > > facts are

> > > > > > overwhelming Yeast is a major factor in the

declining

> > > health

> > > > of

> > > > > millions ,

> > > > > > talking chicken & egg ...its Candida first then the

rest,

> > > > > including the very

> > > > > > important glutathione depletion ...Yes?.... do you

see

> > yeast

> > > > as

> > > > > per dr's

> > > > > > Crook ,Truss, Cranton & testimonies from people like

> > me

> > > ...or do

> > > > > you think

> > > > > > they/we are mistaken ...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > ----

> > > --

> > >

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Penny, Diflucan is generic now &

relatively inexpensive at Costco. About $44 for a month’s supply. I

seriously doubt that any insurance company is going to pay for more diflucan a

month than what yours is offering. THe reality of the health care situation

today means that even the companies that used to offer the “best”

insurance no longer do so. It would be a tough battle w/the insurance company

anyway to appeal this. Patrice

From: infections [mailto:infections ] On Behalf Of penny

Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 9:52

AM

infections

Subject:

[infections] Re:...: Candida, antioxidants...Diflucan

I tried to refill my diflucan/fluconazole and my insurance will now

only pay for 6 pills!!! (And everyone USED to say

that I have

the " best " insurance.) Sheesh, I think

their new " plan " is to let

all their patients die and save money on all those

drugs they'll no

longer be needing. :-(

Fortunately, I found another bottle of fluconazole

in my antibiotics

drawer, so I'm good for another month, but I hate

battling with my

insurance company. Every time I, or my doctor,

writes them, they

claim they nevr received the letter or fax!

All I know, is that my energy has returned in a

big way, and the two

consistent things I've started doing are the

zithromax and the

diflucan (in addition to benicar). Plus I throw in

some other abx as

the mood strikes me (or if I can feel pressure in

my teeth).

I'm not going to get overly optimistic. I've had

this same thing

happen when I took Cipro, and then again for

several months after

i.v. abx, just to relapse. But I'm going to

appreciate it while it's

here and try to get some of the health care

appointments lined up

that I usually don't have the energy for.

, do you think the Lamisil is a substitute for

the Diflucan or

should be taken simultaneously? Maybe I can get

around my insurance

by alternating? But I don't want to lose ground by

going off the

diflucan and not have something equally effective

at work. Is the

lamisil expensive too? I can't afford more drugs

out of pocket. I'm

already spending $160 a month on the Benicar,

which I don't want to

go without, plus co-pays on the abx, hormones,

etc.

Isn't it " funny " how insurance only

balks at paying for the

expensive drugs? You can have boat loads of drugs

like armour or

tetracycline, which are dirt cheap. :-(

penny

> > > > >

> Hi Rich , actually no my basic point was that the

> > >

environmental

> > > > >

factor in

> > > > >

> autism is the diminishing quality of our gut flora ,

due

> to

> > > over

> > > > >

use of

> > > > >

> broad spectrum abx'x & a high sugar diet ...Candida

> > > overgrowth

> > > > is

> > > > >

the key

> > > > >

> ....toxins generated by the overgrowth lead to the

> > cascade

> > > of

> > > > >

events, the

> > > > >

> end result is autism..that is if your 18 months or

so

> > when

> > > you

> > > > >

contract

> > > > >

> yeast overgrowth ...As an adult you experience

> appalling

> > > >

symptoms

> > > > >

that

> > > > >

> collectively could be described as reducing your

> > existence

> > > to

> > > > that

> > > > >

of a

> > > > >

> zombie ...Many debate the existence of yeast

> overgrowth

> > as

> > > a

> > > > >

defined illness

> > > > >

> ...I don't need to, ive experienced it ..for decades

[now

> > > > >

cured]...The point

> > > > >

> is the medical profession do not recognise the

> problem

> > ,

> > > so a

> > > > >

vitally

> > > > >

> important factor in the health of millions is being

> > > > >

ignored ...You either

> > > > >

> accept that as a fact or you don't ..I put the

augment

> that

> > the

> > > > >

facts are

> > > > >

> overwhelming Yeast is a major factor in the

declining

> > > health

> > > > of

> > > > >

millions ,

> > > > >

> talking chicken & egg ...its Candida first then the

rest,

> > > > >

including the very

> > > > >

> important glutathione depletion ...Yes?.... do you

see

> > yeast

> > > > as

> > > > >

per dr's

> > > > >

> Crook ,Truss, Cranton & testimonies from people like

> > me

> > > ...or do

> > > > >

you think

> > > > >

> they/we are mistaken ...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Penny , I think Lamisil can be a substitute or used simultaneously .I found that the synergistic effect of combining the two drugs was considerable ....thing is it's only licensed to treat skin & nails ..is is apowerful systemic a/f and will wok against fungi anywhere in the body but as I say its only licensed to treat skin & nail fungal infections .it .complicates things...it retails in Europe at about £42 for 28 tabs [250mg] I will say that as normal people with no underlying genetic or illness such as AIDS we can still function carrying a substantial fungal infection ...the depth of infection only becomes apparent when on treating you find that the amount of drugs required are quite substantial ....How you feel is the key ..you must get ahead of the infection ...its easy to under treat ...you must feel progress ...adjust the dose & choice of drugs to achieve that aim...

-----Original Message-----From: infections [mailto:infections ]On Behalf Of penny Sent: 28 May 2005 15:52infections Subject: [infections] Re:...: Candida, antioxidants...DiflucanI tried to refill my diflucan/fluconazole and my insurance will now only pay for 6 pills!!! (And everyone USED to say that I have the "best" insurance.) Sheesh, I think their new "plan" is to let all their patients die and save money on all those drugs they'll no longer be needing. :-(Fortunately, I found another bottle of fluconazole in my antibiotics drawer, so I'm good for another month, but I hate battling with my insurance company. Every time I, or my doctor, writes them, they claim they nevr received the letter or fax!All I know, is that my energy has returned in a big way, and the two consistent things I've started doing are the zithromax and the diflucan (in addition to benicar). Plus I throw in some other abx as the mood strikes me (or if I can feel pressure in my teeth). I'm not going to get overly optimistic. I've had this same thing happen when I took Cipro, and then again for several months after i.v. abx, just to relapse. But I'm going to appreciate it while it's here and try to get some of the health care appointments lined up that I usually don't have the energy for. , do you think the Lamisil is a substitute for the Diflucan or should be taken simultaneously? Maybe I can get around my insurance by alternating? But I don't want to lose ground by going off the diflucan and not have something equally effective at work. Is the lamisil expensive too? I can't afford more drugs out of pocket. I'm already spending $160 a month on the Benicar, which I don't want to go without, plus co-pays on the abx, hormones, etc.Isn't it "funny" how insurance only balks at paying for the expensive drugs? You can have boat loads of drugs like armour or tetracycline, which are dirt cheap. :-(penny> > > > > > Hi Rich , actually no my basic point was that the> > > environmental> > > > > factor in> > > > > > autism is the diminishing quality of our gut flora , due > to> > > over> > > > > use of> > > > > > broad spectrum abx'x & a high sugar diet ...Candida> > > overgrowth> > > > is> > > > > the key> > > > > > ....toxins generated by the overgrowth lead to the> > cascade> > > of> > > > > events, the> > > > > > end result is autism..that is if your 18 months or so> > when> > > you> > > > > contract> > > > > > yeast overgrowth ...As an adult you experience > appalling> > > > symptoms> > > > > that> > > > > > collectively could be described as reducing your> > existence> > > to> > > > that> > > > > of a> > > > > > zombie ...Many debate the existence of yeast > overgrowth> > as> > > a> > > > > defined illness> > > > > > ...I don't need to, ive experienced it ..for decades [now> > > > > cured]...The point> > > > > > is the medical profession do not recognise the > problem> > ,> > > so a> > > > > vitally> > > > > > important factor in the health of millions is being> > > > > ignored ...You either> > > > > > accept that as a fact or you don't ..I put the augment > that> > the> > > > > facts are> > > > > > overwhelming Yeast is a major factor in the declining> > > health> > > > of> > > > > millions ,> > > > > > talking chicken & egg ...its Candida first then the rest,> > > > > including the very> > > > > > important glutathione depletion ...Yes?.... do you see> > yeast> > > > as> > > > > per dr's> > > > > > Crook ,Truss, Cranton & testimonies from people like> > me> > > ...or do> > > > > you think> > > > > > they/we are mistaken ...> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > ----> > > --> > >

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