Re: Tony - need specs on Newcastle

[Guest guest]

http://www.med-help.net/CHEMICAL-MARKER-FOR-CFS.htm

> > Reserach from thousands of cfs patients and there bacteria is

pretty

> > convincing stuff. I personally have had about 100 samples,

> > sinus,hair, throat.The newcastle team has done the only thing I

> > would want anyone to do -THAT IS PUT US UNDER THE MICROSCOPE

they

> > studied 1000's of samples stool, sinus bacteria of cfs/fibro

> > patients also observed urine samples. Nothings what it's

supposed to

> > be. tarello a vet who uses the best weapon the PARASITIC BLOOD

FILM

> > see's our problem clearly. Ehrlichia and babesia are also

diagnosed

> > by him.You guys are chasing what?You've got oral bacteria in

your

> > stool, it isn't there in normal controls, plus a half dozen

other

> > clear cut bacterial problems and you want to treat mycoplamsa's

and

> > the like?

> > I believe that after feeling violently ill and you improve, you

> > alway's feel better, or you die, this has happened to me a 100

plus

> > times. I had alway's felt that when ill I should get blood

drawn

> > and compare what is going on with my blood draw when I am at my

> > worst.

> > I believe your improvement is due to the clean up of your red

cells

> > and platelets that end up being cleaned up possably by your

spleen.I

> > would think that early in the so called herx your blood is at

it's

> > thickest and because it gets addressed at the end of a cycle

your

> > blood would be thinner.Again I could stop this process of being

> > undermedicated by medicating more. It took fifty so called

herxes

> > before I realised what is going on.So I'm sorry to disappoint

you

> > but I strongly believe that it's a croc that may swing you from

> > violently ill to better but there's no guarantee anything

positive

> > is happening.

[Guest guest]

http://www.newcastle.edu.au/news/uninews/sept03/cfs.html

> > > Reserach from thousands of cfs patients and there bacteria is

> pretty

> > > convincing stuff. I personally have had about 100 samples,

> > > sinus,hair, throat.The newcastle team has done the only thing

I

> > > would want anyone to do -THAT IS PUT US UNDER THE MICROSCOPE

> they

> > > studied 1000's of samples stool, sinus bacteria of cfs/fibro

> > > patients also observed urine samples. Nothings what it's

> supposed to

> > > be. tarello a vet who uses the best weapon the PARASITIC

BLOOD

> FILM

> > > see's our problem clearly. Ehrlichia and babesia are also

> diagnosed

> > > by him.You guys are chasing what?You've got oral bacteria in

> your

> > > stool, it isn't there in normal controls, plus a half dozen

> other

> > > clear cut bacterial problems and you want to treat

mycoplamsa's

> and

> > > the like?

> > > I believe that after feeling violently ill and you improve,

you

> > > alway's feel better, or you die, this has happened to me a 100

> plus

> > > times. I had alway's felt that when ill I should get blood

> drawn

> > > and compare what is going on with my blood draw when I am at

my

> > > worst.

> > > I believe your improvement is due to the clean up of your red

> cells

> > > and platelets that end up being cleaned up possably by your

> spleen.I

> > > would think that early in the so called herx your blood is at

> it's

> > > thickest and because it gets addressed at the end of a cycle

> your

> > > blood would be thinner.Again I could stop this process of

being

> > > undermedicated by medicating more. It took fifty so called

> herxes

> > > before I realised what is going on.So I'm sorry to disappoint

> you

> > > but I strongly believe that it's a croc that may swing you

from

> > > violently ill to better but there's no guarantee anything

> positive

> > > is happening.

[Guest guest]

I think the internet has many articles from 10 plus years of there

research.I just posted the first couple that popped up by no means

the most informative just a taste of the way they go about looking

at the fatigued patient.

> > Reserach from thousands of cfs patients and there bacteria is

pretty

> > convincing stuff. I personally have had about 100 samples,

> > sinus,hair, throat.The newcastle team has done the only thing I

> > would want anyone to do -THAT IS PUT US UNDER THE MICROSCOPE

they

> > studied 1000's of samples stool, sinus bacteria of cfs/fibro

> > patients also observed urine samples. Nothings what it's

supposed to

> > be. tarello a vet who uses the best weapon the PARASITIC BLOOD

FILM

> > see's our problem clearly. Ehrlichia and babesia are also

diagnosed

> > by him.You guys are chasing what?You've got oral bacteria in

your

> > stool, it isn't there in normal controls, plus a half dozen

other

> > clear cut bacterial problems and you want to treat mycoplamsa's

and

> > the like?

> > I believe that after feeling violently ill and you improve, you

> > alway's feel better, or you die, this has happened to me a 100

plus

> > times. I had alway's felt that when ill I should get blood

drawn

> > and compare what is going on with my blood draw when I am at my

> > worst.

> > I believe your improvement is due to the clean up of your red

cells

> > and platelets that end up being cleaned up possably by your

spleen.I

> > would think that early in the so called herx your blood is at

it's

> > thickest and because it gets addressed at the end of a cycle

your

> > blood would be thinner.Again I could stop this process of being

> > undermedicated by medicating more. It took fifty so called

herxes

> > before I realised what is going on.So I'm sorry to disappoint

you

> > but I strongly believe that it's a croc that may swing you from

> > violently ill to better but there's no guarantee anything

positive

> > is happening.

[Guest guest]

>Hey I'm goin to the have-everything library in >about 10 hours.

Hi ,

Did you ever get a chance to take a look at this study that Cheney

refers to? Since you're going to the library...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=pubmed & dopt=Abstract & list_uids=10334427 & query_hl=1

PMID: 10334427

J Am Coll Cardiol. 1999 May;33(6):1578-83.

Marked elevation of myocardial trace elements in idiopathic dilated

cardiomyopathy compared with secondary cardiac dysfunction.

What do you think of this sentence that Cheney referred to? " In

particular, in pts with IDCM mean mercury concentration was 22,000

times (178,400 ng/g vs. 8 ng/g)... higher than in control subjects. "

Sue ,

Upstate New York