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We are a condom couple for now.......what we will do when we have finished

having our family, I don't know yet.......

I will never go back to the pill. That is why I'm having trouble with

irregularity and pmt etc. right now....ggggrrrr.

Suzanne

dd Ruby 2.7yrs

South Wales

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At 02:30 AM 01/26/2002 -0000, you wrote:

>We are a condom couple for now.......what we will do when we have finished

having our family, I don't know yet.......

>I will never go back to the pill. That is why I'm having trouble with

irregularity and pmt etc. right now....ggggrrrr.

>

>Suzanne

>dd Ruby 2.7yrs

>South Wales

I used the cervical cap for many years (now my partner has had a vasectomy

-before I met him).

Is that still available. Much nicer than a diaphragm but difficult to get

out sometimes due to suction!

Sheri

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A female earthling recently asked me to investigate her birth control.

Shes healthy, but a relative of a chronic inflammatory disease

patient, therefore may have some predisposition to chronic

inflammatory disease. Also, theres a serious family history of heart

attacks. Normal family history for cancers.

The product is a 3-week-slow-release vaginal suppository that

releases X amount per day of a progestin and Y of an estrogen. It

looks like they are probably non-bioidentical?

http://www.nuvaring.com/Authfiles/Images/309_76063.pdf

I am vaguely aware of the bio-identical vs non-bioidentical debate in

menopausal hormone replacement therapy. Anyone know any reason

(besides patentability) why non-bioidentical stuff would be used?

Better pharmacodynamics? Better profile of non-target effects? Of

course, contraception is not the same thing as HRT. In HRT at least,

it does seem rather illogical to me, on the face of it, not to use

bioidentical stuff.

I am very vaguely aware of something like breast cancer risks being

tied to these contraceptives... anything else I should look into?

This purports to be a low dose thing. And if this vaginal

administration achieves lower systemic levels of the drugs than are

achieved by comparable oral contraceptives, that seems like a good

thing... (unless it were the case that levels in the reproductive

tract from this product are quite a bit higher than with oral

hormones, and such were somehow undesirable).

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Check out the wok of Ray Peat. This was the stuff that the late Lee based his work on.

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Windsor

[infections] OT: birth control

A female earthling recently asked me to investigate her birth control.Shes healthy, but a relative of a chronic inflammatory disease patient, therefore may have some predisposition to chronic inflammatory disease. Also, theres a serious family history of heart attacks. Normal family history for cancers.The product is a 3-week-slow-release vaginal suppository that releases X amount per day of a progestin and Y of an estrogen. It looks like they are probably non-bioidentical?http://www.nuvaring.com/Authfiles/Images/309_76063.pdfI am vaguely aware of the bio-identical vs non-bioidentical debate in menopausal hormone replacement therapy. Anyone know any reason (besides patentability) why non-bioidentical stuff would be used? Better pharmacodynamics? Better profile of non-target effects? Of course, contraception is not the same thing as HRT. In HRT at least, it does seem rather illogical to me, on the face of it, not to use bioidentical stuff.I am very vaguely aware of something like breast cancer risks being tied to these contraceptives... anything else I should look into? This purports to be a low dose thing. And if this vaginal administration achieves lower systemic levels of the drugs than are achieved by comparable oral contraceptives, that seems like a good thing... (unless it were the case that levels in the reproductive tract from this product are quite a bit higher than with oral hormones, and such were somehow undesirable).

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Originally when first released the birth control pill would cause

thickened blood and many would die from strokes.Until it was tweaked.

I would think today's pill is much less of a blood thickener but a

blood thickener is till not a smart contraceptive therapy.Many

females 4 to 1 over men have these autoimmune conditions and one

thing that stands out in the candida forums was the use of the birth

control pill.

Most females would blame the pill and antiubiotioc therapy for acne

followed close behind for there myriad of p[roblems.

tony

> A female earthling recently asked me to investigate her birth

control.

>

> Shes healthy, but a relative of a chronic inflammatory disease

> patient, therefore may have some predisposition to chronic

> inflammatory disease. Also, theres a serious family history of

heart

> attacks. Normal family history for cancers.

>

> The product is a 3-week-slow-release vaginal suppository that

> releases X amount per day of a progestin and Y of an estrogen. It

> looks like they are probably non-bioidentical?

>

> http://www.nuvaring.com/Authfiles/Images/309_76063.pdf

>

> I am vaguely aware of the bio-identical vs non-bioidentical debate

in

> menopausal hormone replacement therapy. Anyone know any reason

> (besides patentability) why non-bioidentical stuff would be used?

> Better pharmacodynamics? Better profile of non-target effects? Of

> course, contraception is not the same thing as HRT. In HRT at

least,

> it does seem rather illogical to me, on the face of it, not to use

> bioidentical stuff.

>

> I am very vaguely aware of something like breast cancer risks

being

> tied to these contraceptives... anything else I should look into?

>

> This purports to be a low dose thing. And if this vaginal

> administration achieves lower systemic levels of the drugs than

are

> achieved by comparable oral contraceptives, that seems like a good

> thing... (unless it were the case that levels in the reproductive

> tract from this product are quite a bit higher than with oral

> hormones, and such were somehow undesirable).

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