Re: Re: Penny: Please invite back - The Purpose of this list

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My 2 cents. When someone is angry, shouts, or gets up

tight, your immune system is weak. When you are

happy, having a good time and look for the good things

in life, your immune system is stronger. When you

feel anger, just remember your immune is not

protecting you. In the end it will be our own immune

system, that will get us too 100 years old. these are

just rough spot in life, most if us are going through.

will be back after a cool down, it may take

time. In the mean time lets get back to exchanging

experiences. Jimd

--- penny <pennyhoule@...> wrote:

> Dan, " rudeness " is not an issue on this board.

> " Rudeness " is

> personal perception.

>

> I am responsible for this list. And The issue on my

> list is that I

> will not tolerate one group member slandering

> another group member,

> calling them a liar, or claiming they are

> intentionally misleading

> people to promote some personal agenda. That

> includes attacking

> someone over an opinion or because of a treatment

> protocol they're

> following. I dont' care how pretty it may be

> written, I won't

> tolerate it.

>

> Even calling Tony " rude " is a mild personal attack.

> Far more people

> attack Tony because they don't like his " tone " or

> how he says what

> he says, than he has ever attacked any individuals.

>

> Tony doesn't call YOU stupid. He's talking about

> medical practices

> being stupid. I know tony, and if he does say

> " you're stupid " it's

> because he's not attentive to his writing. But if he

> does call " you "

> stupid, then I will bust his butt for it, too. As I

> have done

> before. But he rarely attacks INDIVIDUALS. He

> actually really cares

> about people, and that's why he's so passionate

> about so many people

> not getting better, and rants and raves in his

> posts.

>

> People, we have to be able to learn to distinguish

> between what is

> personal and what is just an opinion or style we

> don't like. If you

> don't like someone's style, then scroll on by. There

> are people who

> I feel are abrasive in their styles, but they don't

> attack anyone,

> so I have no problem with their posts. I may just

> skim over them.

>

> I also skim over long, emotional posts, because

> that's not what I'm

> interested in, after spending many years on those

> kinds of lists,

> feeling myself being sucked down into an abyss of

> despair. It's not

> that I don't have compassion for people in this

> state. I do. I know

> so many people who are REALLY sick, some have died,

> some have been

> going out of their minds with pain, some can't walk,

> some are on

> ventilators, and I've despaired many times and felt

> like I was dying

> myself, so I have compassion and great empathy. And

> yes, I do think

> we need reminders of what we're really dealing with

> every so often.

> I was very moved by Jelly's rare post for example.

>

> But I have found that dwelling on despair is NOT

> helpful in the long

> run. Not to the person who's suffering, and not to

> the other people

> on the list. What usually happens on those kinds of

> emotional lists

> is that they degenerate into bickering and

> aggression. People

> getting upset very easily by other people's " tone " .

> So I

> specifically did NOT create that kind of list. There

> are plenty of

> other lists that serve the purpose of emotional

> support, where

> people can vent about their pain and suffering.

>

> This list started out with a lot of very scientific

> minds

> contributing, including 's. He has a very fine

> mind. I want to

> see THAT trend continue here, by remaining a place

> that's objective

> and impartial. I don't want to lose the scientific

> minds because

> this list has turned into a copy of so many other

> lists, --

> emotional, bickering, etc. There is no need for

> another list like

> that.

>

> Still, I will never tell people they can't post how

> they're feeling.

> But since inception, we always had the policy that

> if it's a

> personal kind of post, or a thank-you kind of post,

> etc., it should

> be done back channel, so that we can keep the focus

> on this board

> pro-active and research/cure oriented.

> Unfortunately, when we lost

> the old board, we lost the old board's home page

> description, and

> rules and disclaimers, one of which was NO PERSONAL

> ATTACKS, which I

> haven't had time to reconstruct. Perhaps getting

> that reposted will

> help remind people why we're here (if they ever

> visit the home page).

>

> can come back to the list as soon as he agrees

> to not make

> personal attacks or accusations toward ANY

> individual/s. Its'

> simple, and it's the rule of the list. If people

> don't like that,

> then there are so many other lists out there.

>

> Again, I don't have time to manage a bickering

> board, and if we lose

> our original focus, I will not keep it going.

> Period. I don't have

> the time to waste, and after what I've been through,

> I don't have

> any desire to put myself at risk for something

> that's not 100%

> worthwhile and worth fighting for.

>

> Please try to remember that it's all a matter of

> perception. One

> person's " rude " is another person's " funny " . There's

> only one

> guideline we can follow for sure, and will continue

> to follow, and

> that is, we will NOT tolerate personal attacks on

> each other.

>

> If you want , or anyone else to participate,

> then write to him,

> not me, and encourage him to resign up and post,

> while following the

> rule of the list. No personal attacks. It's that

> simple.

>

> penny

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > Yes I want Agent sha back too. I think if we

> had a vote

> > Penny you

> > > would loose this one hands down.

> > >

> > > Im on strike until hes back.

>

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