Re: WHEN THERAPY DOESN'T WORK. - edited

[Guest guest]

Oy, Tony. I wish you wouldn't soft peddle this stuff and tell us

what you really think. :-)

I can vouch for Tony's success, though. This is how he got well, and

this is how our lyme friend in San Fran is finally making major

improvements, --testing all her organisms, but primarily treating

the staph, not her lyme.

If we could just get more doctors to recognize the severity of this

problem and test for it, there could be a lot more people getting

well, instead of getting worse.

Tony I had to edit your post for legal reasons. Glad you're back.

Just try not to piss too many people off, okay? You could actually

help.

penny

> From: " dumbaussie2000 " <dumbaussie2000@y...>

> Date: Sun May 15, 2005 7:54 pm

> Subject: WHEN THERAPY DOESN'T WORK. dumbaussie2000

>

>

> How can you sit here and preach gospel when the therapy doesn't

> work. Lyme is fictitious stuff that should be reserved for

> quackwatch.I realised way early in the piece that mycoplasma was an

> absolute joke, the therapy was a joke, and the patients were

offered

> SUPPLEMENTS after they realised that it was USELESS.We now have the

> LYME LITERATES.My good friend from san fran tests 100 % lyme

> positive,yet the therapy that works isn't lyme oriented. She waxes

> and wanes according to her staphylococcal sensitivities and saved

> her brain recently-because her nervous system was starting to fail

> her by doing staphylocooccal oriented IV's.How is anyone going to

> get any help when your top lyme drug ceftriaxone is only good for

> three days against the staphylococci and you'll end up talking herx

> for 8 months and 27 days.

> Why go the literature when it doesn't add up or exist. I was in the

> library frequently early on in my disease and realised I was

> suffering a DISSEMINATED INFECTION.All the swings and observations

> of temperature and blood counts point to disseminated infection.

The

> other brain wave your all missing the forest for the tree's on is

> the HAEMOLYSINS, a disseminated infection can produce haemolysins

> which destroy red cells so if your red cell counts aren't optimal

> look for haemolysin producing bacterial species and lay of the lyme

> for a couple of weeks. This is the BIG PICTURE,that all this talk

> and all the vide's and pictures your shown ain't adressing

squat.You

> think at 2000times magnification that the lyme video of Dr.

> is some astronomical achievement. That microscope of his should be

> used patient after patient treatment after treatment to see people

> progressing back to good health. I bet my bottom dollar this will

> never occur because...(edited)

>

> Myself personally I can't help anyone unless I'm using cultures and

> my microscope. Looking carefully at red cell attachements

> (percentages), bacterial growths heavy,medium,light.haemolysins in

> cultures.This is GOOD SCIENCE that got me my life back.At this

point

> I am my old self PRE ILNESS and I never sit back and talk

> candidasyndrome, lyme syndrome, mycoplasma Just the facts ma'm.

> Blood culture staph positive, susbsequent rapid blood culturesstaph

> positive. Why wouldn't I want to treat my staph when the treatment

> resolves my symptoms.

[Guest guest]

The Penny and Tony Show wrote, in part:

" Lyme is fictitious stuff that should be reserved for

quackwatch "

Gee, thanks guys for continuing to raise the level of discussion

here. Should be hitting cro-magnon any day now, so please do

continue to enlighten us all with your broad, universalist, we-rule-

nothing-out (except documented pandemics) attitude.

Tune in next week, when T & P will edify us all with " Forget about

that brain cancer, treat your psuedomonas! "

> From: " dumbaussie2000 " <dumbaussie2000@y...>

> Date: Sun May 15, 2005 7:54 pm

> Subject: WHEN THERAPY DOESN'T WORK. dumbaussie2000

>

>

> How can you sit here and preach gospel when the therapy doesn't

> work. Lyme is fictitious stuff that should be reserved for

> quackwatch.I realised way early in the piece that mycoplasma was an

> absolute joke, the therapy was a joke, and the patients were

offered

> SUPPLEMENTS after they realised that it was USELESS.We now have the

> LYME LITERATES.My good friend from san fran tests 100 % lyme

> positive,yet the therapy that works isn't lyme oriented. She waxes

> and wanes according to her staphylococcal sensitivities and saved

> her brain recently-because her nervous system was starting to fail

> her by doing staphylocooccal oriented IV's.How is anyone going to

> get any help when your top lyme drug ceftriaxone is only good for

> three days against the staphylococci and you'll end up talking herx

> for 8 months and 27 days.

> Why go the literature when it doesn't add up or exist. I was in the

> library frequently early on in my disease and realised I was

> suffering a DISSEMINATED INFECTION.All the swings and observations

> of temperature and blood counts point to disseminated infection.

The

> other brain wave your all missing the forest for the tree's on is

> the HAEMOLYSINS, a disseminated infection can produce haemolysins

> which destroy red cells so if your red cell counts aren't optimal

> look for haemolysin producing bacterial species and lay of the lyme

> for a couple of weeks. This is the BIG PICTURE,that all this talk

> and all the vide's and pictures your shown ain't adressing

squat.You

> think at 2000times magnification that the lyme video of Dr.

> is some astronomical achievement. That microscope of his should be

> used patient after patient treatment after treatment to see people

> progressing back to good health. I bet my bottom dollar this will

> never occur because...(edited)

>

> Myself personally I can't help anyone unless I'm using cultures and

> my microscope. Looking carefully at red cell attachements

> (percentages), bacterial growths heavy,medium,light.haemolysins in

> cultures.This is GOOD SCIENCE that got me my life back.At this

point

> I am my old self PRE ILNESS and I never sit back and talk

> candidasyndrome, lyme syndrome, mycoplasma Just the facts ma'm.

> Blood culture staph positive, susbsequent rapid blood culturesstaph

> positive. Why wouldn't I want to treat my staph when the treatment

> resolves my symptoms.

[Guest guest]

Ummm , you're confused. I didn't write that. I've never

said " Lyme is fictitious " nor do I believe it.

Please remember that I am not Tony, and I am not TM either. I am the

one who was sued by TM for standing up for freedom of speech. YOUR

freedom of speech which is still being allowed here, despite your

recent and complete fiaxtion on me as a villain.

I respect your diagnosis. I would appreciate it if you would also

respect that I may respond differently to treatment than you do

without seeing it as a personal affront. Please also respect that

people have opinions that vary from yours, and this does not mean

you are being persecuted.

Now please get some rest and take care of yourself before you say

things you're going to completely regret later.

penny

> The Penny and Tony Show wrote, in part:

>

> " Lyme is fictitious stuff that should be reserved for

> quackwatch "

>

> Gee, thanks guys for continuing to raise the level of discussion

> here. Should be hitting cro-magnon any day now, so please do

> continue to enlighten us all with your broad, universalist, we-

rule-

> nothing-out (except documented pandemics) attitude.

>

> Tune in next week, when T & P will edify us all with " Forget about

> that brain cancer, treat your psuedomonas! "