Re: Full Blod in Dark Field Micro

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I'd like to see your pictures. They didnt come thru in your message

(for me at least). Can you add them to the photos section (see menu on

the left of the screen)?

<pts2grps@e...> wrote:

> Hi,

> Some pictures of my blod, all normal test showed nothing out of range.

> Per 27Jan04 showed me for the first time that i was unwell.

> Per 27Apr was after a doxyferm 21 days (the Infections spec at

hospital did not belive in borelia.)

>

> Talk about thick blood.

> Talk about blood cells collapsing, the 5 min you see a start, cells

is not round anymore.

> they are starting to collapse.

>

> Comments ?

> --

> Per Sjöholm

> Stockholm, Sweden

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Hodologica wrote:

> I'd like to see your pictures. They didnt come thru in your message

> (for me at least). Can you add them to the photos section (see menu on

> the left of the screen)?

>

Done.

The blood is from my finger, it's just a drop smeared on a glass.

The Blood usually survive for atleast 20 minutes, without degradation.

I also have some showing the influense of Magnetic Field.

I use a Magnet Field therapy to make make back movable and to reduce pain.

It's supposed to make the abx circulate better.

It's like magic in 8 minutes a shift from stiff back and neck to movable.

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Per Sjöholm

Stockholm, Sweden

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Per, how do you do this magnetic therapy thing? I agree that magnets

can increase blood circulation.

The reason is that if I'm driving long distance, my knee will be in

severe pain after about 2 hours. A couple summers back, I had to

drive up the entire west coast, and knew I would be in big trouble.

So I bought one of those magnetic knee wraps at the drug store, and

I swear on a stack of bibles, that as long as I kept the wrap on,

the knee was fine. Take it off and it would be hurting in an hour. I

am absolutely convinced that increasing the circulation relieved the

pain (unless it's some other mechanism at work. The circulation

thing is the only thing that has made sense to me, so what

I'm " convinced " of is that the magnets prevent my knee pain).

This reminds me, my yoga teacher once loaned me his magnetic

mattress pad, and it was the best sleep I'd had in years. I didn't

feel I could afford the thing at $600+ though. And who knew if it

would continue to work long term? My teacher, though, claimed it

cured him of narcolepsy?!?!

Shoot maybe we should be wearing a lot more magnets, especially in

areas where we think or know the infection is colonized more heavily

(spine, jaw, etc.). A very natural way to get some blood flow to the

area? Maybe this would be a good thing to do after dental surgery?

Geez I wish I'd thought of that when I was in so much pain after my

disastrous oral surgery.

penny

p.s. Back when I took yoga, about 20 minutes into the class my ears

would plug up and I would hardly be able to hear. Looking back, I

realize, that was the sinus infection I never knew existed.

Per Sjoholm <pts2grps@e...> wrote: I also have some showing the

influense of Magnetic Field.

> I use a Magnet Field therapy to make make back movable and to

reduce pain. It's supposed to make the abx circulate better.

> It's like magic in 8 minutes a shift from stiff back and neck to

movable.

[Guest guest]

Pretty interesting... there seems to be quite a bit of extracellular

material in picture 2, but I dont have the knowledge at all to say

what it might be. Some of it appears to be associated with

erythrocytes, especially the distinct body just to the right of the

leucocyte.

By the way, last November I met a visiting relative who is an ID doc

in Sweden, and a specialist in tick-borne diseases (especially a

particular virus, I believe, on which he has done research, collecting

ticks in the field etc). He said the great majority of his patients

who suspect they have borreliosis do not... I doubted that but didnt

know my literature well enough at that time to put up much of an

objection.

[Guest guest]

Did you run the control condition? A similar knee wrap minus the

magnets?

I also have some showing the

> influense of Magnetic Field.

> > I use a Magnet Field therapy to make make back movable and to

> reduce pain. It's supposed to make the abx circulate better.

> > It's like magic in 8 minutes a shift from stiff back and neck to

> movable.

[Guest guest]

Actually, in a way, yes.

First of all, the only thing I don't like about the knee wraps are

tehy're cumbersome and not comfortable. The velcro pokes me, it

makes me sweat and I have to put it on fairly loosely to keep my

knee bent while driving w/o cutting off circulation, yet tight

enough to keep the magnets centered around my knee or it's not

effective. So it's attached awkwardly for driving and falls to my

ankle when I stand up.

As far as a control, I lost the original wrap for a while and bought

another one at another store, and didn't find it nearly as

effective. So I stopped wearing it. Then, came across the old one

and realized it had a lot more magnets than the new one did, and

when I started using it again, found the same pain relief again.

I AM 100% convinced that the magnets in the first knee wrap relieve

the knee pain. Whether it's because there are more, or they're

bigger, or different types, I can't say. I just know they work (and

it's not from the wrap itself).

penny

I also have some showing the

> > influense of Magnetic Field.

> > > I use a Magnet Field therapy to make make back movable and to

> > reduce pain. It's supposed to make the abx circulate better.

> > > It's like magic in 8 minutes a shift from stiff back and neck

to

> > movable.

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Penny

penny wrote:

> Per, how do you do this magnetic therapy thing? I agree that magnets

> can increase blood circulation.

>

I use a MCR family its about 2500 USD

http://www.santerra.net/index_en.php

It's mat with electrical coils, a pulsating magnetic field is created.

I use it daily, I lay down on the mat for 16 minutes , strengt 5 , 1-3 times.

I use a certain program that decide time and the strength of the magnetic field.

There is some more information here http://www.ifbm.at/e_forschung2.html

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Per Sjöholm

Stockholm, Sweden

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Hi ,

Yes I find very interesting to.

Today my blood lives for 40 minutes without degrading.

Sometimes my doc can see intracelluar things.

What borelia specialist belive in sweden is that after 10-14 days of doxyferm

you don't

have borelia. If you still is sick you can't have borelia, it may be some

immunoligical rest symptom.

CWD- forms does not exist.

When they evalute test they use well defined borelia cases and test how

well the elisa assay can

detect that. The control group used is from blood donors, for same areas you can

get 25-40 % response on

antibodies. One commonly used(DAKO) test for antibody/flagel what happens with a

cell wall difficent form ?

I test border line on DAKO(3 times), High on igenix C6, Neg on virtytech WB,

Very high on Eliza and WB from

laboer-koeln.

When I talk to people almost everybody know somebody that i would suspect if

have some chronic thing going.

When you start talking they have had tick, bite, EM , joint pain a little later.

The MD don't have a clue what is happening.

What is ID ?

The private MD that I visit can see these things coming out of cells.

I showed him AW/marie kroun movie and he recognized it.

/Per

Hodologica wrote:

> By the way, last November I met a visiting relative who is an ID doc

> in Sweden, and a specialist in tick-borne diseases (especially a

> particular virus, I believe, on which he has done research, collecting

> ticks in the field etc). He said the great majority of his patients

> who suspect they have borreliosis do not... I doubted that but didnt

> know my literature well enough at that time to put up much of an

> objection.

>

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Per Sjöholm

Stockholm, Sweden