Still hoping for clarification, Q's unanswered - PENNY.

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Well, these seemed like reasonable questions, so I am going to try

again.... I'll even pare it down to the two most crucial

questions....

1. In your statement regarding the focus of research ( & " everyone " )

being on Bb, are you saying (A)that all chronic illnesses are not

caused by Bb (how can this not be true?); (B)people WITH KNOWN Bb

infections should be looking to other organisms to explain their

symptoms; or © both of the above?

2. You said, " ...since everyone's so blinded by the " lyme light "

most people aren't even interested in looking at the research, let

alone get tested, for the other, more common, infectious bugs, or in

looking at how they're negatively affecting our health... "

I'm wondering who is the everyone and where is the copious, solid Bb

related research? And how & when did Bb research begin to displace

research on other infectious agents?

(well, I'm going to add a q too!) If your goal is to have a forum

in which all infections are discussed, why are you dissing Bb?

While it is one of many infectious agents, I fail to understand your

desire to minimize it... It seems like you are boxing with shadows

and I don't understand why...

> to different organisms to explain symptoms

> Bb and that people should be looking at other organisms

> --- In infections , " penny "

> <pennyhoule@y...> wrote [iN PART]:

> > I've ALWAYS, for years, been concerned that people might get too

> > fixated on one organism while letting others get by them. I was

> just

> > happy though, that people at least started accepting the premise

> > that infection might be the cause of these chronic illnesses,

and

> > that people were recognizing the similarities between other

> chronic

> > illnesses, like CFS, FMS RA, lyme disease, etc. and how they all

> > respond to abx treatment.

>

> *****If you are saying that all chronic illnesses are not caused

by

> Bb and that people should be looking at other organisms, I

couldn't

> agree with you more!!! However, if what you are saying (which is

> what it sounded like in the post, and to what I was responding),

> that symptoms in people WITH KNOWN Bb infections should be looking

> to different organisms to explain symptoms, that is the part I

since everyone's so blinded by the " lyme light " most people

> > aren't even interested in looking at the research, let alone get

> > tested, for the other, more common, infectious bugs, or in

looking

> > at how they're negatively affecting our health

> disagree with you on. Do you mean the former????

>

>

> > But . I was ecstatic

> when

> > Dr. Shoemaker came out saying that if you don't treat the staph

> (or

> > the mold) first, you're not going to get the lyme.

>

> *****If only so many people were doing research on Bb!!! I guess

I

> don't know who the " everyone " is to whom you refer. I do know

there

> are a few studies here and there about Bb & AD, ALS, and MS, but

not

> very many at all. Even the (solid) research on Bb is relatively

> sparse... Perhaps you could elaborate on 'since everyone's so

> blinded by the " lyme light " ' -- it seems like this means something

> very concrete to you and I'm interested in knowing what it is.

>

>

> > I just keep bringing it up as a reminder, the sole voice in the

> > wilderness, because nobody else does. I was talking infection on

> the

> > CFS/FMS boards years ago and getting criticized heavily for it

> > (while Tony was being banned).

>

> *****Who is this Tony person that you've referred to twice (last

> post too)?

>

>

> > Also, I HAVE had many SMOKY MOUNTAIN tests done, I'm not sure

why

> > you'd assume I haven't?

>

> *****I assumed you hadn't had such a GI test because you were

saying

> that Nystatin might kill yeast and other pathogens that might be

> lurking in the gut. Given the " might " (or whatever actual word

was

> used, just the lack of definitive data), it sounded like (A) you

> didn't know what GI pathogens you had, nor ( what treatments

they

> would respond to. For those who don't know, the Smoky Mountain

(or

> some such named lab that I can't recall completely) assesses the

> pathogens in your GI system (yeast, parasites, bacteria, both know

> and possible pathogens) and also provides a sensitivity test if

> pathogens are identified (for example, one bacteria that I tested

> postive for also included an ABX sensitivity chart and indicated

> that the bug was sensitive to mino, cipro & bactrum, but resistent

> to amoxicillin, ceftin, and something else).