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<mpalmer@u...> wrote in part:

> This newly discovered property of the lactams has the potential

> to shed some insights. It also has the potential to be used to

> suppress insights.

Indeed.

You generally hear about there being alot of pretty rapid post-lactam

relapses, but I dont really know anyone personally, nor real details -

except I think that Lonestartick, found on lymenet, has mentioned

repeated such experiences.

Dealing with causal attribution regarding effects of lactam cessation:

hmmm. Assuming lactams are ceased and then wash out of a patients

serum at " time zero " , I guess theres the perhaps complex and fraught

question of just how much time should elapse until " time X " , at which

point any further sx changes can safely be considered unconnected to

slow-evolving effects cascading down from the cessation of the

neuromodulation exerted by the lactam. Might X be as much as a week

later or even more? I wouldnt know where to begin on this question.

Theres someone on eurolyme who says they got clear on ceftriaxone and

remained so until relapsing a year later... so theres one experience

thats clearly bacterially-mediated.

On a different front, I can say I found 100 mg doxy tid to give rapid,

continuing relief comparable to 200 mg ibuprofen (one " normal " USA

ibuprofen), tho perhaps qualitatively different. This was unblinded as

I knew to expect this effect. My point is, I found the immunomod

effect not to be very strong. At that point my illness kept me pretty

house-bound and reclining alot, and tightly focused on misery... and

the dent made in my suffering was something like 15%.

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