Guest guest Posted May 12, 2005 Report Share Posted May 12, 2005 IMO, the benefits of ARBs and modalities that raise glutathione are not only compatible, but are likely additive. > Hi, all. > > In the past there has been discussion on some of the lists about > whether making efforts to build glutathione would be compatible with > taking an angiotensin receptor blocker (ARB). > > I found four papers in the literature that report investigations > into the effect of ARBs on the glutathione status in rats and in > humans. The abstracts of these papers are pasted below. > > All four papers report that it was found that ARBs raised > glutathione and decreased the state of oxidative stress. > > I think that this suggests that glutathione building is compatible > with taking ARBs. > > In addition, it may also suggest that one of the ways in which ARBs > are beneficial to some people might be their effect on raising > glutathione and lowering oxidative stress. > > Please note that I am neither advocating the use of ARBs or opposing > them, only trying to understand the interactions. > > Rich > > > Jpn J Physiol. 2002 Oct;52(5):435-40. > > The effects of losartan and enalapril therapies on the levels of > nitric oxide, malondialdehyde, and glutathione in patients with > essential hypertension. > > Donmez G, Derici U, Erbas D, Arinsoy T, Onk A, Sindel S, Hasanoglu E. > > Department of Physiology, Gazi University Faculty of Medicine, > Ankara, 06510 Turkey. > > Several recent studies have shown that essential hypertension is > associated with increased oxidative stress, which may cause > hypertension via enhanced oxidation and inactivation of nitric > oxide. In this study, we investigated the malondialdehyde, nitric > oxide, and glutathione levels in newly diagnosed essential > hypertensive patients and whether or not there was any effect of > antihypertensive treatment with angiotensin II type 1 receptor > antagonist, losartan or angiotensin converting enzyme inhibitor, > enalapril on plasma malondialdehyde, nitric oxide, and glutathione > values. We selected 17 patients (F/M: 10/7, mean age: 46.12 +/- 9.2 > years) for enalapril therapy (10-20 mg/d) and 14 patients (F/M: 8/6, > mean age: 47.7 +/- 7.5 years) for losartan therapy (50-100 mg/d), > and compared them with 12 normotensive controls. At the beginning of > the study, both treated groups showed significantly higher plasma > malondialdehyde and lower glutathione and nitric oxide in exhaled > air compared to the control group. After 9 weeks of enalapril and > losartan treatment, both systolic and diastolic pressure were > significantly reduced. Both enalapril and losartan produced a > significant decrease in plasma malondialdehyde and a significant > increase in plasma glutathione levels and nitric oxide in exhaled > air after 9 weeks. Initial values of plasma nitrate levels in > patient groups were similar to the control group and increased > significantly after the treatment period. In conclusion, both > losartan and enalapril may be regulators between oxidant stress and > the antioxidant system. > > PMID: 12533248 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > FASEB J. 2003 Jun;17(9):1096-8. Epub 2003 Apr 22. > > Enalapril and losartan attenuate mitochondrial dysfunction in aged > rats. > > de Cavanagh EM, Piotrkowski B, Basso N, Stella I, Inserra F, Ferder > L, Fraga CG. > > Physical Chemistry-PRALIB, School of Pharmacy and Biochemistry, > University of Buenos Aires, Argentina. > > Renin-angiotensin system (RAS) inhibition can attenuate the effects > of aging on renal function and structure; however, its effect on > mitochondrial aging is unknown. To investigate whether an > angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitor (enalapril) or an > angiotensin II receptor blocker (losartan) could mitigate age- > associated changes in kidney mitochondria, male Wistar rats (14 mo > old) received during 8 mo water containing either enalapril (10 > mg/kg/day) (Enal), or losartan (30 mg/kg/day) (Los), or no additions > (Old). Four-month-old untreated rats (Young) were also studied. In > old rats mitochondrial respiratory control, ADP/O, nitric oxide > synthase activity, and uncoupling protein 2 levels were lower (46, > 42, 27, and 76%, respectively), and Mn-SOD activity was higher (70%) > than in Young, Enal, and Los rats. In Old rats mitochondrial > hydrogen peroxide production was higher than in both Young (197%) > and Enal or Los (40%) rats. In Old rats, kidney GSH/GSSG was lower > than in both Young (80%) and Enal (57%) or Los (68%) rats. In Old > rats electron microscopy showed effacement of microvilli in tubular > epithelial cells, ill-defined mitochondrial cristae, lower > mitochondrial numbers, and enhanced number of osmiophilic bodies > relative to Young, Enal, or Los rats. In conclusion, enalapril and > losartan can protect against both age-related mitochondrial > dysfunction and ultrastructural alterations, underscoring the role > of RAS in the aging process. An association with oxidative stress > modulation is suggested. > > PMID: 12709417 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ----------- > > Mol Aspects Med. 2004 Feb-Apr;25(1-2):27-36. > > Concerted action of the renin-angiotensin system, mitochondria, and > antioxidant defenses in aging. > > de Cavanagh EM, Piotrkowski B, Fraga CG. > > Physical Chemistry-PRALIB, School of Pharmacy and Biochemistry, > University of Buenos Aires, Junin 956, 1113 Buenos Aires, Argentina. > > Angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors (ACEi) and AT-1 receptor > blockers (ARB) are two types of drugs that inhibit the renin- > angiotensin system (RAS), and can attenuate the progression to > cardiac and/or renal functional impairment, secondary to diverse > pathologies. Some of the beneficial effects of ACEi and ARB occur > independently of the ability of these drugs to reduce arterial blood > pressure. Both, in animals, and in humans, we observed an > enhancement of antioxidant defenses that occurred after treatment > with ACEi. Based on these results, we postulate that some of the > beneficial health effects associated to RAS inhibition can be > ascribed to the prevention of oxidant-mediated damage. Furthermore, > considering that: (i). RAS inhibition attenuates certain age- > associated degenerative changes; (ii). aging was postulated to > result from the accumulation of oxidant-mediated damage; and (iii). > mitochondria are a major source of oxidants, we studied potential > associations among RAS inhibition, mitochondrial function and > production of oxidants and nitric oxide, and aging. The results > obtained suggest, that RAS inhibitors, i.e. enalapril and losartan, > can protect against the effects of aging by attenuating oxidant > damage to mitochondria, and in consequence, they preserve > mitochondrial function. The mechanism(s) explaining such attenuation > of oxidant damage can relay on a reduction of the ANG-II-dependent > generation of superoxide and/or an increased detoxification of > reactive nitrogen and oxygen species by recomposition of antioxidant > defense levels. > > PMID: 15051314 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > Am J Hypertens. 2004 Sep;17(9):809-16. > > Factors related to the impact of antihypertensive treatment in > antioxidant activities and oxidative stress by-products in human > hypertension. > > Saez GT, Tormos C, Giner V, Chaves J, Lozano JV, Iradi A, Redon J. > > Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, Medical School, > Valencia, Spain. > > The objective was to study factors related to the changes induced by > antihypertensive treatment on oxidative status, antioxidant > activities, and reactive oxygen species by-products in whole blood > and mononuclear peripheral cells. Eighty-nine hypertensive patients > (mean age 46 years, 46 men, average 24-h blood pressure 139/88 mm > Hg, body mass index 29) were included. After 3 months of > nonrandomized allocation to antihypertensive treatment (20 > nonpharmacologic, 36 beta-blockers, 33 angiotensin receptor > blocker), oxidized/reduced glutathione ratio and malondialdehyde > were significantly reduced, and the activity of superoxide > dismutase, catalase, and glutathione peroxidase was significantly > increased in both whole blood and peripheral mononuclear cells. The > content of damaged base 8-oxo-2'-deoxyguanosine in nuclear and > mitochondrial DNA in hypertensive subjects was also significantly > reduced during the antihypertensive treatment. In a group of 42 > subjects, the oxidative stress was further reduced and the > antioxidant enzyme activities further increased after 12 months of > antihypertensive treatment. The changes were independent of the kind > of antihypertensive treatment. In conclusion, antihypertensive > treatment improved the increased oxidative stress and the decreased > antioxidant mechanisms. It is independent of the type of treatment > and the beneficial effect of treatment increases over time. > Copyright 2004 American Journal of Hypertension, Ltd. > > PMID: 15363824 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2005 Report Share Posted May 13, 2005 I don't prefer ACE inhibitors because kinins are degraded by ACE and we don't want to inhibit the degradation of kinins in inflammatory disease. ARBs are a better choice, IMO. Benicar (olmesartan) or Micardis (telmisartan) would be preferred over Cozaar (losartan) since they are not metabolized via the P450 pathway as is losartan. Low-doses work well for reducing inflammation in my experience. > > > Hi, all. > > > > > > In the past there has been discussion on some of the lists about > > > whether making efforts to build glutathione would be compatible > > with > > > taking an angiotensin receptor blocker (ARB). > > > > > > I found four papers in the literature that report investigations > > > into the effect of ARBs on the glutathione status in rats and in > > > humans. The abstracts of these papers are pasted below. > > > > > > All four papers report that it was found that ARBs raised > > > glutathione and decreased the state of oxidative stress. > > > > > > I think that this suggests that glutathione building is compatible > > > with taking ARBs. > > > > > > In addition, it may also suggest that one of the ways in which ARBs > > > are beneficial to some people might be their effect on raising > > > glutathione and lowering oxidative stress. > > > > > > Please note that I am neither advocating the use of ARBs or > > opposing > > > them, only trying to understand the interactions. > > > > > > Rich > > > > > > > > > Jpn J Physiol. 2002 Oct;52(5):435-40. > > > > > > The effects of losartan and enalapril therapies on the levels of > > > nitric oxide, malondialdehyde, and glutathione in patients with > > > essential hypertension. > > > > > > Donmez G, Derici U, Erbas D, Arinsoy T, Onk A, Sindel S, Hasanoglu > > E. > > > > > > Department of Physiology, Gazi University Faculty of Medicine, > > > Ankara, 06510 Turkey. > > > > > > Several recent studies have shown that essential hypertension is > > > associated with increased oxidative stress, which may cause > > > hypertension via enhanced oxidation and inactivation of nitric > > > oxide. In this study, we investigated the malondialdehyde, nitric > > > oxide, and glutathione levels in newly diagnosed essential > > > hypertensive patients and whether or not there was any effect of > > > antihypertensive treatment with angiotensin II type 1 receptor > > > antagonist, losartan or angiotensin converting enzyme inhibitor, > > > enalapril on plasma malondialdehyde, nitric oxide, and glutathione > > > values. We selected 17 patients (F/M: 10/7, mean age: 46.12 +/- 9.2 > > > years) for enalapril therapy (10-20 mg/d) and 14 patients (F/M: > > 8/6, > > > mean age: 47.7 +/- 7.5 years) for losartan therapy (50-100 mg/d), > > > and compared them with 12 normotensive controls. At the beginning > > of > > > the study, both treated groups showed significantly higher plasma > > > malondialdehyde and lower glutathione and nitric oxide in exhaled > > > air compared to the control group. After 9 weeks of enalapril and > > > losartan treatment, both systolic and diastolic pressure were > > > significantly reduced. Both enalapril and losartan produced a > > > significant decrease in plasma malondialdehyde and a significant > > > increase in plasma glutathione levels and nitric oxide in exhaled > > > air after 9 weeks. Initial values of plasma nitrate levels in > > > patient groups were similar to the control group and increased > > > significantly after the treatment period. In conclusion, both > > > losartan and enalapril may be regulators between oxidant stress and > > > the antioxidant system. > > > > > > PMID: 12533248 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > > > > > > FASEB J. 2003 Jun;17(9):1096-8. Epub 2003 Apr 22. > > > > > > Enalapril and losartan attenuate mitochondrial dysfunction in aged > > > rats. > > > > > > de Cavanagh EM, Piotrkowski B, Basso N, Stella I, Inserra F, Ferder > > > L, Fraga CG. > > > > > > Physical Chemistry-PRALIB, School of Pharmacy and Biochemistry, > > > University of Buenos Aires, Argentina. > > > > > > Renin-angiotensin system (RAS) inhibition can attenuate the effects > > > of aging on renal function and structure; however, its effect on > > > mitochondrial aging is unknown. To investigate whether an > > > angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitor (enalapril) or an > > > angiotensin II receptor blocker (losartan) could mitigate age- > > > associated changes in kidney mitochondria, male Wistar rats (14 mo > > > old) received during 8 mo water containing either enalapril (10 > > > mg/kg/day) (Enal), or losartan (30 mg/kg/day) (Los), or no > > additions > > > (Old). Four-month-old untreated rats (Young) were also studied. In > > > old rats mitochondrial respiratory control, ADP/O, nitric oxide > > > synthase activity, and uncoupling protein 2 levels were lower (46, > > > 42, 27, and 76%, respectively), and Mn-SOD activity was higher > > (70%) > > > than in Young, Enal, and Los rats. In Old rats mitochondrial > > > hydrogen peroxide production was higher than in both Young (197%) > > > and Enal or Los (40%) rats. In Old rats, kidney GSH/GSSG was lower > > > than in both Young (80%) and Enal (57%) or Los (68%) rats. In Old > > > rats electron microscopy showed effacement of microvilli in tubular > > > epithelial cells, ill-defined mitochondrial cristae, lower > > > mitochondrial numbers, and enhanced number of osmiophilic bodies > > > relative to Young, Enal, or Los rats. In conclusion, enalapril and > > > losartan can protect against both age-related mitochondrial > > > dysfunction and ultrastructural alterations, underscoring the role > > > of RAS in the aging process. An association with oxidative stress > > > modulation is suggested. > > > > > > PMID: 12709417 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > -- > > > ----------- > > > > > > Mol Aspects Med. 2004 Feb-Apr;25(1-2):27-36. > > > > > > Concerted action of the renin-angiotensin system, mitochondria, and > > > antioxidant defenses in aging. > > > > > > de Cavanagh EM, Piotrkowski B, Fraga CG. > > > > > > Physical Chemistry-PRALIB, School of Pharmacy and Biochemistry, > > > University of Buenos Aires, Junin 956, 1113 Buenos Aires, > > Argentina. > > > > > > Angiotensin-converting enzyme inhibitors (ACEi) and AT-1 receptor > > > blockers (ARB) are two types of drugs that inhibit the renin- > > > angiotensin system (RAS), and can attenuate the progression to > > > cardiac and/or renal functional impairment, secondary to diverse > > > pathologies. Some of the beneficial effects of ACEi and ARB occur > > > independently of the ability of these drugs to reduce arterial > > blood > > > pressure. Both, in animals, and in humans, we observed an > > > enhancement of antioxidant defenses that occurred after treatment > > > with ACEi. Based on these results, we postulate that some of the > > > beneficial health effects associated to RAS inhibition can be > > > ascribed to the prevention of oxidant-mediated damage. Furthermore, > > > considering that: (i). RAS inhibition attenuates certain age- > > > associated degenerative changes; (ii). aging was postulated to > > > result from the accumulation of oxidant-mediated damage; and (iii). > > > mitochondria are a major source of oxidants, we studied potential > > > associations among RAS inhibition, mitochondrial function and > > > production of oxidants and nitric oxide, and aging. The results > > > obtained suggest, that RAS inhibitors, i.e. enalapril and losartan, > > > can protect against the effects of aging by attenuating oxidant > > > damage to mitochondria, and in consequence, they preserve > > > mitochondrial function. The mechanism(s) explaining such > > attenuation > > > of oxidant damage can relay on a reduction of the ANG-II- dependent > > > generation of superoxide and/or an increased detoxification of > > > reactive nitrogen and oxygen species by recomposition of > > antioxidant > > > defense levels. > > > > > > PMID: 15051314 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > > > > > > Am J Hypertens. 2004 Sep;17(9):809-16. > > > > > > Factors related to the impact of antihypertensive treatment in > > > antioxidant activities and oxidative stress by-products in human > > > hypertension. > > > > > > Saez GT, Tormos C, Giner V, Chaves J, Lozano JV, Iradi A, Redon J. > > > > > > Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, Medical School, > > > Valencia, Spain. > > > > > > The objective was to study factors related to the changes induced > > by > > > antihypertensive treatment on oxidative status, antioxidant > > > activities, and reactive oxygen species by-products in whole blood > > > and mononuclear peripheral cells. Eighty-nine hypertensive patients > > > (mean age 46 years, 46 men, average 24-h blood pressure 139/88 mm > > > Hg, body mass index 29) were included. After 3 months of > > > nonrandomized allocation to antihypertensive treatment (20 > > > nonpharmacologic, 36 beta-blockers, 33 angiotensin receptor > > > blocker), oxidized/reduced glutathione ratio and malondialdehyde > > > were significantly reduced, and the activity of superoxide > > > dismutase, catalase, and glutathione peroxidase was significantly > > > increased in both whole blood and peripheral mononuclear cells. The > > > content of damaged base 8-oxo-2'-deoxyguanosine in nuclear and > > > mitochondrial DNA in hypertensive subjects was also significantly > > > reduced during the antihypertensive treatment. In a group of 42 > > > subjects, the oxidative stress was further reduced and the > > > antioxidant enzyme activities further increased after 12 months of > > > antihypertensive treatment. The changes were independent of the > > kind > > > of antihypertensive treatment. In conclusion, antihypertensive > > > treatment improved the increased oxidative stress and the decreased > > > antioxidant mechanisms. It is independent of the type of treatment > > > and the beneficial effect of treatment increases over time. > > > Copyright 2004 American Journal of Hypertension, Ltd. > > > > > > PMID: 15363824 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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